Hosted by Leah Farmer & Marilyn McDonald
Listed under Business
Each week we peel back the layers of product management theory and dive into the nuts and bolts of making real decisions in high-stakes tech environments. Join us, Marilyn McDonald and Leah Farmer, as we share insights from our 20+ years at the forefront of Big Tech, Payments, Scaleups, and Startups.
49 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2026-03-25 · ~45 min/episode
Rank
#544
Substance
64.0
/ 100
Breakdown
Scored 2026-08
Updated monthly
Across the index
#544 of 1053
Substance
Top 52%
outscores 48% of the index
Practical Product Management ranks #544 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 64.0 out of 100, scored across 5 recent episodes. It scores highest on guest caliber and originality. Evan is a sitting Chief Innovation Officer of a large SaaS provider with real ERP transformation experience and named projects, a genuine practitioner rather than a career podcast guest.
Averaged across 5 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.
The ERP transformation segment delivers genuinely useful non-obvious points (do nothing as a viable outcome, vision over feature-checklists, as-is before to-be), but much of the innovation-officer discussion is repetitive and circular with significant restatement.
“Pick 3 good reasons that have ROI behind it and chase those.”
“Do nothing should be a viable, probable outcome”
The clean separation of technical vs. product innovation and the 'don't replace, innovate on top of the ERP' debate are reasonably fresh framings, though the matrix PMO and 10X concepts are well-worn.
“I cleanly separate technical innovation from product innovation”
“Why can't you innovate on top of a system”
Evan is a sitting Chief Innovation Officer of a large SaaS provider with real ERP transformation experience and named projects, a genuine practitioner rather than a career podcast guest.
“I'm the Chief Innovation Officer of AMCS Group”
“with Smurfit Stone, we did that work. We did a full process analysis”
Strong concrete examples appear in the ERP section (Smurfit Stone cost figures, write-down numbers), but the first half relies on vague abstractions and the guest deliberately avoids naming names elsewhere.
“it was costing about $12 and change to bring a load of round wood across the scale... that dropped to about $1.40”
“The total system cost them about $560,000 a year. Net gains on that is over $10 million a year”
The hosts genuinely push back and disagree, sustaining a real debate about skills-based hiring and ERP replacement rather than offering softballs, which elevates the substance.
“I'm going to disagree with you and then I'm going to change the subject”
“Why do you have to refit your entire ERP system?”
3 periods tracked.
49 scored on substance.
Trust as Infrastructure: Innovation, AI, and the Future of Payments
2026-03-25 · 51 min
Innovation at the Edge: AI, ERP, and the Art of the Calculated Bet
2026-03-11 · 39 min
The Books That Made Us Better Product Managers (And Better Humans)
2026-02-25 · 39 min
Season Wrap Up - The CEO of Your Life
2025-12-02 · 58 min
Best of Season 2, Part 2 - Conversations that reminded us why Product is a "people-first" craft.
2025-11-19 · 56 min
Best of Season 2, Part 1 - Highlights, lessons and laughs from our most curious season yet.
2025-11-05 · 55 min
Designing for Play: Building Games That Bring People Together
2025-10-22 · 51 min
Fearless Fundamentals: How Language, Bravery, and Trust Shape Great Product Teams
2025-10-08 · 53 min
Making Pigs Fly - Turn early career lessons, empathy, and curiosity into product success.
2025-09-24 · 49 min
From MVPs to FAFO - Iterations, courage, and what it really means to learn fast in Product.
2025-09-10 · 46 min
Nerds to Norms: Why real conversations still beat synthetic data in B2B product management
2025-09-03 · 52 min
Running on Empty - Why high-achievers struggle to slow down and what it takes to truly rest.
2025-08-13 · 1h 0m
Make Noise, Not Space: How Great Product Leadership Starts with Listening
2025-07-30 · 51 min
Better Together: How Mutual Respect, Curiosity, and Shared Goals Create the Best Product & Engineering Collaborations
2025-07-16 · 53 min
The Inside Job - Leadership, Self-Knowledge, & Communication Styles from the Inside Out
2025-07-02 · 52 min
Podcastaversary Year 1 - Friendship, Frameworks, and The Future of Product
2025-06-18 · 60 min
Stop Trying to Do It All! - Feedback, Mentors, & Being Human as a Product Manager
2025-06-04 · 59 min
Practice Like You Play: How Product Teams Win with Clarity, Conflict, & Staying in the Game
2025-05-21 · 1h 12m
Film Festivals, Velociraptors, & Heart Surgery: Building Immersive Products in AR, VR, & AI
2025-05-07 · 56 min
Ask for What You Want: Careers, Contracts, and Building Products That Work Everywhere
2025-04-23 · 55 min
Help Me Understand Why: How "Dumb Questions" Might Save Your Product and Your Strartup
2025-04-09 · 46 min
GovTech, Outcomes, & Impact - Building Meaningful Products in High-Stakes Environments
2025-03-26 · 58 min
Beyond the Checkbox - The Future of Accessibility in Product Management
2025-03-12 · 44 min
Finding the Right Boss: Why Your Next Boss Might Matter More Than Your Next Product
2025-02-26 · 1h 3m
Full Impact, Fractional Time - Taking Ownership, Diagnosing Chaos, & Driving Impact
2025-02-12 · 60 min
New Year, New Goals: Resolutions for Product Managers
2025-01-29 · 41 min
Tidings of Innovation & Cheer - AI, MVPs, and Leadership Lessons to Carry Into 2025
2024-12-04 · 51 min
PPM Thanksgiving Special : Using Product Skills in Day to Day Life
2024-11-27 · 55 min
The Courage to Create - Lessons in Resilience and Purpose from the Co-Founder of Femote
2024-11-13 · 47 min
Short on Time, High on Output - Speed, Strategy, and Success as an Interim Product Manager
2024-11-06 · 31 min
Tricks, Treats, & Transitions: Navigating Employee Departures with Kindness & Help
2024-10-30 · 34 min
PM Pivots: Thriving in Startups, Global Companies, and the Unlikely Places In Between
2024-10-23 · 49 min
The Technical Product Manager's Playbook: Curiosity, Simplicity, and Customer Focus
2024-10-16 · 51 min
Confirmation Bias is Killing Your Product - The Keys to Great Product Design
2024-10-09 · 39 min
Money Moves: Inside Fintech with PMs Who've Been There
2024-09-11 · 49 min
The Dark Side of Product Management: Lies, Manipulation, Tracking, & Echo Chambers
2024-09-04 · 42 min
Product Growth: From Idea to Impact (aka Haresh Convinces Us that His Job is a Real Job!)
2024-08-21 · 39 min
Not Replaced, But Enhanced - The Role of AI in Product Management
2024-08-14 · 33 min
Curious Minds Wanted: How to Hire Great Product Managers
2024-08-07 · 32 min
The Great Restoration - How Fintech Must Adapt to Changing Markets
2024-07-31 · 37 min
Demystifying OKRs: Practical Insights for Product Managers
2024-07-24 · 37 min
Building Bridges - Psychological Safety in Product Management
2024-07-17 · 24 min
Launches & Lessons - Navigating Success and Failure as a PM
2024-07-10 · 36 min
The Change-Maker's Guide to Product: Simplify, Focus, Succeed
2024-07-03 · 33 min
Debunking Biggest PM Myths
2024-06-26 · 28 min
The Myth of the Shiny Pretty Product - Building for Customers and Business
2024-06-19 · 23 min
Breaking Bad Habits in Product Management
2024-06-12 · 31 min
Theoretical vs. Practical Product Management
2024-06-05 · 28 min
Sneak Peak! Product Theory vs Practical Product Management
2024-05-27 · 1 min
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