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The Scale Up Show

Hosted by Ryan Staley

Listed under Business › Management

How do you grow like a VC-backed SAAS company without taking on investors? What are the secrets that SAAS CEOs have that the rest of us don't? Do you want to create a lifestyle business, a performance business, or an empire? How do you scale to an exit without losing your freedom?

526 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2025-11-21 · ~17 min/episode

Rank

#5078

Substance

47.6

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

SaaS rank

#151 of 173

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Across the index

#5078 of 6183

Substance

Top 82%

outscores 18% of the index

Why it scores where it does

The Scale Up Show ranks #5078 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 47.6 out of 100, scored across 5 recent episodes. It scores highest on specificity & evidence and guest caliber. The 68% browser-language statistic and the technical detail on Common Crawl are concrete highlights, and the Cursor bot/30-minute fix example is useful. But the TED dubbing study is cited without actual numbers ('tremendously better conversion rates'), productivity gains are unquantified, and most predictions and product claims remain at a hand-waving level of abstraction.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 5 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

9.8 / 20

The episode contains a handful of genuinely useful nuggets - the Common Crawl/JavaScript limitation blocking video content from LLMs, the 68% non-English browser stat, and the probabilistic vs. deterministic framing for legacy SaaS - but these are surrounded by significant padding: puppy talk, personal AI nerdery, and generic 'AI is moving fast' observations that dilute density considerably.

“Common crawl, which is this like open source crawler, can't run JavaScript so anything that's behind JavaScript it can't see. So a video player needs JavaScript to run”

“only 68% of people click play on our front page video, uh, have their browser set to English”

Originality

8.8 / 20

The LLM-friendly video embed insight and the YouTube-blocks-ChatGPT observation are genuinely non-obvious and actionable; the CGI/Mission Impossible analogy for AI video trust is a fresh framing. However, the bulk of the episode recycles standard 2024 AI conversation - agents overpromised, tools getting better, storytelling will matter - without pushing into truly contrarian territory.

“YouTube blocks chat GPT and a bunch of the other LLM search because of course they do because it's not their product”

“if you can show off that you did it for real and you can show off that there was real work into it and the story is good, that'll be good”

Guest Caliber

10.6 / 20

Chris Savage is a genuine operator - co-founder and CEO of a 19-year-old B2B SaaS company with 500k customers - who speaks from real product and go-to-market experience rather than theory. He is not a household name or hyper-scale operator, and the conversation doesn't fully exploit his depth of experience running a bootstrapped/slow-growth SaaS at scale.

“we rebuilt a lot of how Wistia runs in the last few years”

“we launched AI dubbing in Wistia earlier this year”

Specificity & Evidence

11.0 / 20

The 68% browser-language statistic and the technical detail on Common Crawl are concrete highlights, and the Cursor bot/30-minute fix example is useful. But the TED dubbing study is cited without actual numbers ('tremendously better conversion rates'), productivity gains are unquantified, and most predictions and product claims remain at a hand-waving level of abstraction.

“only 68% of people click play on our front page video, uh, have their browser set to English”

“TED just did a recent study on this because they, they dubbed a bunch of their talks and saw tremendously better conversion rates, engagement rates”

Conversational Craft

7.4 / 20

The host demonstrates real technical literacy - correctly identifying N8N, Common Crawl, Veo 3, and Cursor - and occasionally surfaces useful follow-ups. However, he frequently steers the conversation toward his own AI usage, inserts personal anecdotes (Oracle meeting, brain-dump doc, Frenchie dog), and never pushes back on any vague or unsubstantiated claim, keeping the exchange at a friendly-chat level rather than a rigorous interview.

“I was meeting with um, a leader over at Oracle earlier today and I was telling him about it”

“Do you want me to give some that I see working so you get a little chance to process it? Cause I just put you on the spot”

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Rank over time

2 periods tracked.

Episodes

34 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

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    41 / 100
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    2025-09-07 · 18 min

    48 / 100
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    2025-09-01 · 3 min

    35 / 100
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    2025-08-25 · 15 min

    39 / 100
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    37 / 100
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    2025-07-28 · 17 min

    41 / 100
  • LIVE DEMO: Building Lovable for GTM-agentic workflows in seconds

    2025-07-21 · 15 min

    61 / 100
  • Weeks of Work in an Hour with Agents

    2025-07-14 · 11 min

    43 / 100
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    2025-07-07 · 49 min

    75 / 100
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    41 / 100
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    2025-06-18 · 17 min

    65 / 100
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    2025-06-16 · 22 min

    75 / 100
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    2025-06-11 · 14 min

    65 / 100
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    2025-06-08 · 9 min

    38 / 100
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    2025-06-04 · 19 min

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    2025-06-02 · 12 min

    45 / 100
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    58 / 100
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    45 / 100
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    2025-05-21 · 15 min

    66 / 100
  • How Top Companies Are Using AI Agents to 2X Revenue (Without Replacing Anyone)

    2025-05-19 · 26 min

    48 / 100
  • How AI Transformed a Sales Crisis in 7 Days

    2025-05-14 · 13 min

    61 / 100
  • Hidden Gold: ChatGPT's 10-Minute Automation Secret

    2025-05-12 · 10 min

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Frequently asked

What is The Scale Up Show's substance score?
The Scale Up Show scores 47.6 out of 100 for substance and ranks #5078 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 18% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #151 of 173 in SaaS. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is The Scale Up Show worth listening to?
The Scale Up Show is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 47.6/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts The Scale Up Show?
The Scale Up Show is hosted by Ryan Staley.
How often does The Scale Up Show publish?
The Scale Up Show publishes weekly, has 526 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2025-11-21.
Which The Scale Up Show episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "This CEO Built a Daily AI Agent That Searches the Web While He Sleeps" (70/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

OpenAI · 21ChatGPT · 19Claude · 12Gemini · 9GPT-5 · 7Anthropic · 7Salesforce · 7Google · 6Genspark · 6Pavilion · 6Slack · 5Grok · 4N8N · 4HubSpot · 4Google Drive · 4Google Gemini · 4Microsoft Copilot · 4Gamma · 3

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Wen Tsang · 2Amos Bar Joseph · 2Tom Andrews · 2Mike Palmer · 2Brandon Taylor · 2Chris SavageJonathan MossA.J. KumarChris DonnellyDanny GrantClaire VoMike Haylen

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

ChatGPT · 6Gemini · 6OpenAI · 5Anthropic · 5Prompt engineering · 5Claude Code · 4Deep Research · 4GenSpark · 4Claude · 3N8N · 3MCP servers · 3Slack · 3Salesforce · 3Microsoft Copilot · 3HubSpot · 3go-to-market strategy · 3AI agents · 3Gamma · 2

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