Claude Code

…and then getting a scorecard on the other side to say ~how, ~how well they performed in that scenario, right? [00:15:25] Matt Biilmann: Like, that'll allow you to do things like let's say For Claude code, s- like you know nothing, like take this web project and deploy it to Netlify, right?…

…Whether you're using GitHub Copilot, Claude Code, or any other tool, buying the license doesn't solve the real problem.…

…Well, first of all, I've been using Claude code, just released routines, and they just change it so that you don't have to hook it up to a repository, a GitHub repository to use it, which is helpful.…

…In terms of tools, they're using Copilot, Cursor, and Claude Code.…

…And then they decided to use Claude code.…

…It's the code authoring part that has been accelerated with the existing set of agentic software that we have like Claude Code and Cursor and everything else.…

…steps and ways that we should be thinking about how to keep that flywheel moving and get it moving faster is as you're doing your day to day work, if you are interacting with an AI, whether it's Claude code or GitHub Copilot or what have you, anytime you find yourself repeating something, that is a signal that maybe you should start to codify that either into an agents.…

…And so we then changed the interface to be, honestly something that's very much like Claude code or Codex or how all these terminal apps work, these coding agents, uh, in 2024, like, I don't know, nine months to a year before those tools came out.…

…And so we talk through that, and we talk through what it means to go toward being comfortable with Claude code, being comfortable with Codex.…

…peaker B: But are they doing well because of that? Or are they doing well because Claude code is good, because they kept shipping Claude, Cowork and so many other tools?…

…and marketing, but also because of the the blog post you wrote a couple of months ago that I messaged you straight away when you because I was listening to various AI podcasts and hearing about Claude Code and then Claude co-work, and then I was like, Oh, I'm not a coder, but then then vibe coding, and then I read your article and I was like, okay, I need to get into this.…

…and then on top of that, getting even a step further into Claude Code and building apps.…

…What are you currently doing and what is actually possible right now? Yeah, I don't know how much you want me to get into here, but I literally, I'm spending probably eight to 10 hours a day inside Claude Code right now.…

…Software Development has accelerated through the use of tools like cursor and Claude code, meaning companies are launching more features than ever.…

…So I took all of our third-party risk management intellectual property and I uploaded it into Claude Code.…

…Ben [0:10:27]: I mean, claude code.…

…And so instead of giving somebody access to CLAUDE code and just going use this to write code, build them an agent whose job is to go, hey, your job here is to write some code.…

…I've created a couple of chat of chapter 13 plan creation tools using Claude Code that live locally.…

…And I encourage folks listening to go around and try whether it's Claude Code, Lovable, any product out there really just to see how powerful AI is for coding.…

…Asking an Uber to send you somewhere and asking Claude Code or GitHub Copilot to make something for you with no specificity.…

…Fiona leads the teams behind Claude Code and Cowork.…

…B: It is interesting obviously like since you're reporting, you know, I guess in 2026 you've had these rise of these, you know, coding agents and uh, you know, certainly, you know, Anthropic and Claude code were the first there and OpenAI with Codex was right behind.…

…And and so I think it where a lot of the work right now is starting to happen and needs to happen is understanding that Claude Code and cowork and all these tools are super powerful, but there needs to be the layer that we already have when you think about like email and and just connecting so connecting an app to your Microsoft O365 account gets…

…So I'm playing with Codex, I'm playing with Claude Code, I'm playing with code and ChatGPT because I need to stay on top of like everything that's happening.…

…And honestly, right now I'm deep in Claude - specifically Claude Code and the MCP integrations.…

…Claude Code had just come out.…

…But as of, you know, February 2026, the two tools that I would highly, highly recommend is Claude, specifically Claude Code and Lindy.…

…Lindsay: now tools like Claude Code and Cursor are allowing non-technical people to actually build things.…

…And as you know, in the past few months, we've been taken away by this crazy Claude hype, as everybody was doing Claude Code, Claude Cowork, Claude everything.…

…And what? I love About The Vista lee Path Is um this Deli? Everybody Keeps Asking me Like Why don't you Really Skills To Help People do This? Well I Love Claude Code and I love the Personal Productivity Part of Claude code but Claude Codes isn't multiplayer.…

…We kick things off in this episode in the trenches of the command line where the battle between Claude Code, OpenCode.…

…I was first surprised and then utterly delighted by the fact that Claude Code now has this thing called Dispatch, where I have agents doing things for me and I can be out on a job.…

…They are not setting their marketing teams up to use Claude Code inside their computer terminal and build their own custom connections to databases.…

…if you, if we're looking at, uh, we just recently built a, a PowerPoint presentation, slide generation deck that allows us to build our own custom branded presentations by just prompting them inside Claude code and delivering out a beautifully laid out presentation that has that PowerPoint style presentation format to it.…

…peaker B: I think that even looking at something like Claude code as a software as a coding agent is a bit of a misnomer and a bit of a weird approach.…

…Like our support bot that answers members questions while we sleep, a database that flags which customers are about to cancel and a course that Claude code built in just 45 minutes.…

…peaker C: What I'd say is that there are a lot of people, a lot of clients I interact with who are actively exploring how to use things like Claude code, um, specifically to accelerate some of their forecast buildings.…

…I know Claude Code had been out for a while before that time, but it seemed like there was something that sort of snapped at around that time.…

…Basically, average engineers were able to point their, you know, Claude Code or Kira or some other types of harnesses at, with the foundational, like, Opus models with, from Anthropic.…

…One thing we noticed was that Claude code was really trying to post internal source code to a public repo rather than private.…

…Today, Eric and I are talking mostly about Claude Code.…

…Their product is not [00:05:30] AI, but they've used Claude Code and sort of...…

…So I built myself a solution that um, you know, use Claude code to build this.…

…And then, at what point do you bring engineering expertise? what point, Claude Code can't just do everything for you and you actually need somebody human behind the scenes.…

…Claude Code is the king right now.…

…Like, um, you can see it in Claude code.…

…Everyone's favorite, favorite coworker now is Claude Code.…

…peaker B: And you're using Claude code, correct?…

…Uh, Claude code went nuts on it and apparently there's some encryption thing it needs to basically be able to break through.…

…But what I catch, and I really want to talk to you about this because it's fascinating, I use Claude code, which is an agentic harness.…

…I got access to Claude Code.…

…Microsoft canceled Claude Code subscriptions across several product divisions, according to The Verge.…

…They then released Claude code.…

…Ramp explicitly attributes most of Anthropic's gain to a single product, Claude Code, which they call the fastest growing product in Anthropic's history.…

…And it was about almost a year ago in May of last year when Claude Code got launched.…

…I want you to really lay out for me How did you take it from Claude Code, right?…

…So I think, like, N8N has been a big thing that I've used, but I have used some Claude code workflows as well.…

…Skills is a very specific thing inside Claude Code.…

…know sharing as much as i can in terms of what i'm learning so i'm kind of like i don't know building public sharing real time whatever uh and so yeah having a great time I recently started using Claude Code and it is literally the best thing since sliced bread.…

…Claude Code alone is reportedly at $1 billion annualized inside six months.…

…running a business or being deeply embedded in an industry, 112 00:06:08,130 - > 00:06:11,010 well, all of that doesn't come bundled with agentic coding 113 00:06:11,010 - > 00:06:13,570 tools like Claude Code.…

…So you have a, uh, developer using CLAUDE code and they connect to the Hyperscaler's MCP server.…

…I know you mentioned you've been using Claude code and Lovable quite a bit.…

…I am mostly using Claude code and codecs in my terminal at this point.…

…And it's like, no, no, you need Claude code, bud.…

…I'd really encourage folks concretely to take a spin with our developer agent, right? The ability to go build new innovation in Workday using Claude Code, using Antigravity, using like all these great AI tools.…

…SPEAKER_01: Heather, have you done some vibe coding? Uh no, I've just started working with Claude Code recently, working on a software project.…

…Hey, I can use Claude Co-Work or Claude Code off the shelf, and I can get something up and running in this way.…

…Um, and yeah, this is around the time where, uh, Claude code became really good.…

…And it's going to all go into this one SharePoint folder created using Claude code, uh, reporting system that analyzes all that data, compares it to the prior month and, and then gives them an actual picture of their vulnerabilities, where their, uh, risk is, where not just a risk, but like what users…

…So I figured out how to hook it up to Claude Code, and it'll go talk to our Tanzu platform thing and go through this MCP gateway.…

…But honestly, Claude Code.…

…use, I mean even for you know, we tested out a few in the beginning, of course we kinda is steered towards the big players, your ⁓ Claude, your chat GPT, if you're familiar with ⁓ like Codex and Claude Code, those have been game changers.…

…I'm finding people that you would not consider to be technical tool users are the ones sitting down and making the tools now saying okay, Claude code.…

…You can look this up online to autonomous tools like CLAUDE code, and they burned through their entire annual AI budget in four months.…

…If you have noticed, if you go into Claude code specifically, um, there's a new button inside of Claude code, which is called Ultra Code.…

…But if we want to test out a new process, if we want to engage with Claude code or Codex or Cursor and build something, we can do that and we have the power to do that.…

…peaker A: They're probably going to open up Claude Code or Cursor to try to do this, but they'll do a much worse version of it.…

…What's really important though is if we want to work with Claude code or any other kind of file based system, all of those things won't necessarily live in the same place.…

…peaker B: and install Claude code.…

…So Claude code has been my go to.…

…let me build context, explain what my business does, how it does, what metrics we use, what industry we're in, feed in our P&L, feed in as many inputs as possible, and then give Claude, right, Claude Code, an open-ended research task and say, okay, based on everything you know about this, and your expertise as an analyst, how do you think that these things can be changed?…

…Now I think first off, Chris, it's probably worth recognizing that Anthropic obviously has a has a horse in this race, especially with things like Claude Code or Claude Yeah.…

…And honestly, I had to use Claude code to build it.…

…As you know, the other day it was like, let's figure out if Claude code is superior to codecs.…

…you're on your phone, what are you seeing? And how do you know sort of like, what to say? I think that one of the big challenges for folks is not like, they know that they can sort of like, ask Claude Code to do things, but they're like, well, I don't really know what to build.…

…And then they released Claude code.…

…But what I think is also coming soon is that now with, with Claude code and similar tools like that, the people start baking up their own solutions.…

…Anthropic writes Claude Tag is an evolution of CLAUDE code, made more proactive and built to work with a full team.…

…I'm going to show you exactly how I built this benchmark using Claude Code, and we're going to see on a blind test what comes out on top.…

…I'm glad they added the, the integration with Claud code because Otherwise it's going to click a button, copy a link and then ask Claude Code to visit the URL.…

…⁓ It is a tool called Claude code.…

…So it's on there and I just like when I want to make changes to it, I just go into Claude code, which is hooked up to a GitHub repo repository where all the files for the website are, and that's linked to Vercel.…

…These include the ability to create effective UI UX prototypes, as well as to architect vibecode and test a software application using tools like Lovable and Claude code for instance.…

…I first used Claude code to help me out in second year.…

…And I think what we're seeing emerging is that Claude code, Anthropic, which is sort of always been the baby brother of OpenAI, has really focused hard on B2B enterprise applications.…

…Uh, but then last year we got this magical tool called Claude Code.…

…And a lot of what I have to thank for that is Claude Code.…

…And I might do a future episode on Claude Co-work because there's some cool kind of vibe coding kind of things that you can do in Claude Co-work and Claude Code as well.…

…However, this last month, really with the launch of like claudebot and Claude Code and Claude Cowork, this channel is going to be reactive again because I see the future of the agency business model changing in, changing in a 6 to 12 month window.…

…This works with Claude code too.…

…And then if you follow all the drama with the Claude code and and all the different well, just Claude in general, anthropic.…

…I just started using Claude code, uh, about a month and a half ago myself, am blown away with what some of the more technical coding agents are able to do that even the normal models at the highest level aren't able to do.…

…Plugged it into Claude code, said, look, this is what I want to happen.…

…Luckily for you, there's a couple different ways where you could access Claude code.…

…However, like I've started experiments with CLAUDE code and the agents within there and I'm really impressed with content creation and some of the things that it'll do, um, which I can make a future video about it but I wanted to share this breakdown with you and then also…