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The Rethink Marketing Podcast

Hosted by Colin Jeffries & Paul Frodge

★5.0on Apple Podcasts · 20 recent reviews

Are you drowning in the sheer volume of contradicting marketing and sales speak? Do you find yourself perplexed and overwhelmed by recommendations from "marketing & sales gurus" ? How can the thought processes of marketing and sales be based on the one size fits all mentality? They can't be!

258 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2025-07-22 · ~24 min/episode

Rank

#5280

Substance

47.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Marketing rank

#813 of 995

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Across the index

#5280 of 6219

Substance

Top 85%

outscores 15% of the index

Why it scores where it does

The Rethink Marketing Podcast ranks #5280 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 47.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on specificity & evidence and insight density. A couple of cited statistics (58.5% zero-click, 4.5B ChatGPT visits/month) and named platforms (G2, Trustpilot, Reddit, Angie's, BBB) provide some grounding, but the B2B application is illustrated only abstractly ('what CRM I should implement for my small business') and no client data, campaign outcomes, or sourced studies are provided.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

11.0 / 20

The episode surfaces a handful of real stats and a genuinely useful framing around cross-platform AEO versus website-only SEO, but it is structurally a recap of a recap, padded heavily with affirmations, consumer-facing analogies, and repetition of the same two or three points. The density of novel, actionable ideas per minute is low.

“about 58.5% of Google searches are zero click. So users are really getting answers without visiting websites.”

“it's shortening buying cycles...that two months or six weeks of research gets cut down to 20 minutes”

Originality

9.0 / 20

The AEO-versus-SEO framing is already mainstream marketing discourse, and the episode adds little beyond naming familiar platforms and restating the 'answer first' principle. There is no contrarian argument, no first-principles reasoning, and the episode explicitly closes with 'it goes back to one of the core fundamentals of marketing which is know your audience.'

“it goes back to one of the core fundamentals of marketing which is know your audience”

“AEO is not replacing SEO. It's really building on a healthy SEO function”

Guest Caliber

7.0 / 20

There is no guest in this episode; it is two in-house co-hosts recapping a prior interview with a colleague (Bree Hadnott, identified only as their agency's AEO/SEO expert) who is not present. No practitioner credentials, company scale, or verifiable expertise are established for either host.

“So today what we're going to do is recap our conversations over the last two episodes with Bree Hadnott from our agency, our AEO and SEO expert”

“I'm Paul Froge, joined by Mr. Marketing himself”

Specificity & Evidence

12.0 / 20

A couple of cited statistics (58.5% zero-click, 4.5B ChatGPT visits/month) and named platforms (G2, Trustpilot, Reddit, Angie's, BBB) provide some grounding, but the B2B application is illustrated only abstractly ('what CRM I should implement for my small business') and no client data, campaign outcomes, or sourced studies are provided.

“about 58.5% of Google searches are zero click”

“platforms like ChatGPT are receiving 4.5 billion visits per month”

Conversational Craft

8.0 / 20

The format is two hosts affirming each other throughout, with no real questioning, no pushback, and no follow-up that challenges an assumption. Questions are leading and shallow ('What are your thoughts there?'), and affirmations like 'Totally makes sense' and 'Absolutely' dominate the transitions.

“Yeah, totally makes sense. And let's skip ahead for just a minute to the tactical AEO tips”

“Absolutely, Paul. Great recap.”

Standout episodes

  • Answering the Answer Engines: The Future of Search

    2025-07-22

    47

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • Answering the Answer Engines: The Future of Search

    2025-07-22 · 20 min

    47 / 100

What listeners say on Apple Podcasts

★★★★★
Think differently
Colin and Eric make you think differently about modern marketing - challenging the status quo with humor and insight. Love their chemistry!

- Sarah Panus

★★★★★
We all need to challenge conventions more frequently
The marketing industry has changed so much in the 25 years I’ve been involved with it, but why do we still hold on to long-standing conventions? The hosts and guests attempt to challenge conventions and inspire us to think differently. Bravo!

- Uncorking a Story

Frequently asked

What is The Rethink Marketing Podcast's substance score?
The Rethink Marketing Podcast scores 47.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #5280 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 15% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #813 of 995 in Marketing. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is The Rethink Marketing Podcast worth listening to?
The Rethink Marketing Podcast is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 47.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts The Rethink Marketing Podcast?
The Rethink Marketing Podcast is hosted by Colin Jeffries & Paul Frodge.
How often does The Rethink Marketing Podcast publish?
The Rethink Marketing Podcast publishes weekly, has 258 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2025-07-22.
Which The Rethink Marketing Podcast episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Answering the Answer Engines: The Future of Search" (47/100) - a good place to start.

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Guests who've appeared

Bree Hadnott

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Answer Engine Optimization (AEO)GeminiChatGPTRedditTrustpilotYelpGoogle AI OverviewsForbesZero-click searchesAngie's List

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