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Customer Success Playbook S3 E46 - Mary Schmid - Listen To Connect not Correct

The Customer Success Playbook · 2025-04-21 · 9 min

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Customer successClient communicationneurosciencelistening skillstrusted advisor

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Send us Fan Mail In this high-impact episode of the Customer Success Playbook , hosts Kevin Metzger and Roman Trebon welcome Mary Schmid, MBA, a communication and leadership expert with a passion for rewiring how we listen. Mary reveals how to shift from surface-level exchanges to trust-building dialogues by embracing her "Conversational Edge" framework. Rather than defaulting to advice-giving, Mary urges professionals to pause and lean into connection-first listening. With a foundation in neuroscience, she explains how we unconsciously drop out of conversations every 12 to 18 seconds - and how to stay tuned in. If you think you’re a good listener, this episode might surprise you. Detailed Analysis: This episode flips the script on what it means to be a "trusted advisor." Mary Schmid argues that client relationships are often eroded by a focus on proving expertise instead of demonstrating care. Using brain science as a guide, she introduces the idea that effective listening triggers the brain’s trust response.

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