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Telecommunications Industry Therapy

Hosted by Scott Stekr and Michelle Kang

Listed under Education, Business › Non-Profit, Government

Podcast discussing issues arising from the rapid advancement and deployment of telecommunications infrastructure. The Podcast is hosted by industry veterans Michelle Kang and Scott Stekr.

58 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2026-09-13 · ~22 min/episode

Rank

#1885

Substance

69.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-08
Updated monthly

Ops rank

#152 of 458

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Across the index

#1885 of 6203

Substance

Top 30%

outscores 70% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Telecommunications Industry Therapy ranks #1885 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 69.0 out of 100, scored across 2 recent episodes. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Iain Gillott is VP of Innovation and Technology at Wireless Intelligence & Analytics (WIA), a credible industry analyst role with clear domain expertise in telecom. He demonstrates hands-on knowledge of carrier operations, tower infrastructure, and network planning. However, he is primarily an analyst/researcher rather than a practicing operator or executive running a carrier/vendor at scale, which limits impact.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 2 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

14.5 / 20

The episode provides solid conceptual frameworks (AI on vs. in the network distinction, the 4.2% traffic metric, uplink/downlink pattern shifts) and concrete operational examples (drone tower inspection, bolt detection, digital twins). However, there's considerable filler - pool cleaner anecdotes, repetitive explanations, and soft follow-ups that dilute substance. A B2B operator gains useful mental models but fewer novel, actionable insights than a stronger episode would deliver.

“4.2% at the end of 2025 of all of the US mobile data traffic was resulted from AI applications and services”

“the pattern of traffic on the network is shifting as well. Right. And kind of, you know, talk a little bit more about the design, building and running of the networks”

Originality

12.5 / 20

The on vs. in network framing is reasonably clear and useful, but the core ideas - AI as infrastructure dependency, digital twins for asset management, traffic composition analysis - are not particularly novel or contrarian. The episode recycles standard industry narratives about AI adoption and network optimization without challenging assumptions or offering first-principles counterarguments.

“So on the network would be that, um, just like I said, um, let me think of an example”

“AI in the network is when the mobile operators, the equipment vendors, uh, uh, all the professional services that combine within the mobile network ecosystem to build and run that network. When they starting using AI tools”

Guest Caliber

16.0 / 20

Iain Gillott is VP of Innovation and Technology at Wireless Intelligence & Analytics (WIA), a credible industry analyst role with clear domain expertise in telecom. He demonstrates hands-on knowledge of carrier operations, tower infrastructure, and network planning. However, he is primarily an analyst/researcher rather than a practicing operator or executive running a carrier/vendor at scale, which limits impact.

“Vice President of Innovation and Technology at wia”

“we actually looked at AI traffic on the network and how much of we know how much traffic goes over the network”

Specificity & Evidence

14.5 / 20

The episode includes specific metrics (4.2% AI traffic at end of 2025, ~$3B annual network operating cost, growth trajectory to 6 - 7% mid-year, prediction of 10%+ by year-end) and named examples (Google Gemini, ChatGPT, Claude, Apple Siri with Gemini integration, drone tower imaging, missing bolt detection). However, many examples are hypothetical or generic (pool cleaner, stadium AI video scenarios) rather than hard case studies. Data lacks granularity on carrier names, timelines, or implementation costs.

“4.2% at the end of 2025 of all of the US mobile data traffic was resulted from AI applications and services. So when you look at that in terms of how much spending that is, if you look at what it costs to build and operate the networks is just under $3 billion a year”

“I was at a 49ers game last year, and, you know, the amount of images and video you take and upload”

Conversational Craft

11.5 / 20

Host questions are competent but largely non-confrontational and invite predictable answers. Michelle and Scott ask clarifying questions (distinction between on/in network, impact on mobile networks) but rarely push back, challenge assumptions, or probe contradictions. Follow-ups are generic ("Anything we missed?") rather than sharp or exploratory. The conversation feels collaborative but lacks the rigor of a skilled interviewer testing claims.

“Now we hear a lot about AI, and we hear about AI ran, inferencing, hyperscalers, etc. How does all of this relate to mobile networks?”

“And what about the actual decisions of where more capacities needed more coverage? And then the actual design of the rf, for example, is it getting into those type of things?”

Standout episodes

  • AI in the Network, AI on the Network - with Iain Gillott, WIA

    2026-07-20

    85
  • Standards in the Age of AI: The TIA-942 Story

    2026-06-01

    53

Rank over time

2 periods tracked.

Episodes

2 scored on substance · 56 tracked in total.

  • AI in the Network, AI on the Network - with Iain Gillott, WIA

    2026-07-20 · 24 min

    85 / 100
  • Standards in the Age of AI: The TIA-942 Story

    2026-06-01 · 18 min

    53 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Telecommunications Industry Therapy's substance score?
Telecommunications Industry Therapy scores 69.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #1885 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 70% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #152 of 458 in Ops. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Telecommunications Industry Therapy worth listening to?
Yes - Telecommunications Industry Therapy outscores 70% of the B2B ops podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a ops operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts Telecommunications Industry Therapy?
Telecommunications Industry Therapy is hosted by Scott Stekr and Michelle Kang.
How often does Telecommunications Industry Therapy publish?
Telecommunications Industry Therapy publishes fortnightly, has 58 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-09-13.
Which Telecommunications Industry Therapy episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "AI in the Network, AI on the Network - with Iain Gillott, WIA" (85/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

Telecommunications Industry AssociationTIA-942Telecommunications Industry FoundationVerizonNuStarANSIISO 9001

Guests who've appeared

Iain GillottTom McGarry

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

GeminiClaudeChatGPTHyperscaler data centers5G networksDigital twinsAI on the networkAI in the network4G networksTower infrastructureTIA-942 data center infrastructure standardTIA (Telecommunications Industry Association)TR42 committeeData center reliability levels (Level 1-4)Liquid cooling technologyGPU-based AI data center architectureHigh-density compute environmentsANSI-accredited standards development

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