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C.U. on the Show

Hosted by Doug English

Join industry leaders as they share bold ideas that ignite innovation, unveil new strategies, and empower you to drive impactful change within the movement. From Doug English, a former CU insider and CFP® with ACT Advisors.

97 episodes · publishes monthly · latest 2026-06-30 · ~35 min/episode

Rank

#1384

Substance

70.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

AI & Data rank

#134 of 495

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Across the index

#1384 of 6186

Substance

Top 22%

outscores 78% of the index

Why it scores where it does

C.U. on the Show ranks #1384 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 70.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and specificity & evidence. Jeremy Wood is a genuine SVP/CSO practitioner who has actually implemented these workflows inside a credit union, giving the episode real credibility; Kirk Drake is experienced but has shifted substantially toward being a professional AI coach and evangelist, which slightly dilutes the pure operator perspective.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

14.0 / 20

The episode contains a handful of genuinely useful practitioner insights - the master prompt to custom GPT progression, recording training sessions to auto-generate SOPs, and the warning about board members weaponizing AI for micro-level regulatory nitpicking - but these are diluted by heavy padding, repeated affirmations, and basic GIGO advice that any AI user already knows.

“the downside of live use ChatGPT or any of these tools in the board meeting. It enables a board member to go to a micro level of understanding that is probably not appropriate for a board because they can get down to the nuance of a net worth ratio and what the regulatory framework is that isn't necessarily policy, isn't necessarily strategy, but could be weaponized in a board meeting”

“recording those transcripts, use that to build your SOPs. Just upload the transcript and say, I need an SOP based on what I just taught. Unbelievable how effective that that SOP comes out first try”

Originality

13.0 / 20

The attorney-client privilege and fiduciary duty concern around boards using AI to summarize board packages is a genuinely fresh and underexplored angle, but the bulk of the episode recycles standard AI-adoption advice and widely circulated takes like 'it's not AI but someone with AI that will take your job.'

“If you're the credit union, don't give the tool to the board to put the board package in to have the analyze it. That breaks your confidentiality and your attorney client privilege”

“Is if the board member isn't reading the full board package, are they doing their fiduciary responsibility versus having ChatGPT summarize the board package”

Guest Caliber

16.0 / 20

Jeremy Wood is a genuine SVP/CSO practitioner who has actually implemented these workflows inside a credit union, giving the episode real credibility; Kirk Drake is experienced but has shifted substantially toward being a professional AI coach and evangelist, which slightly dilutes the pure operator perspective.

“we actually implemented an AI note taker to record the meetings and generate transcripts. And what we found is not only did it make us a little more efficient, but it allowed everybody in the room to pay attention”

“I had him run it, and then it was immediately better than what we had done, but just strictly a Word document with a master prompt”

Specificity & Evidence

15.0 / 20

There are a handful of concrete specifics - the Orca CU bank-statement-to-membership product built in six weeks, the 80/20 Claude-to-ChatGPT usage split, the 25-person biweekly entrepreneur group - but many claims are vague, unverified, and unsupported by data, and the overall ratio of abstraction to concrete evidence is unfavorable.

“built that product end to end using AI in about six weeks, had it live on the website”

“I do 100% of FPA analysis. Anything finance related is Claude. I don't even bother with ChatGPT. In fact I probably only use Chat GPT about 5 or 10% of the time”

Conversational Craft

12.0 / 20

The host asks a few useful clarifying and follow-up questions (on hallucination, on the nature of master prompts) but predominantly cheerleads, re-states guest points back to them verbatim, and never challenges a claim or creates productive disagreement, allowing Kirk Drake's extended monologues to go entirely unchallenged.

“that, that. I think that is a huge takeaway. Kirk, you want to go, uh, any further with that? I think that is a very, very significant takeaway. I want to make sure our listeners hear that”

“have you seen cases, have you seen any cases of that? And uh, if you have, where did it show up and what did you do about it?”

Standout episodes

  • How Credit Unions Are Using AI to Support Board Communication and Strategic Planning

    2026-06-30

    70

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • How Credit Unions Are Using AI to Support Board Communication and Strategic Planning

    2026-06-30 · 48 min

    70 / 100

Frequently asked

What is C.U. on the Show's substance score?
C.U. on the Show scores 70.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #1384 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 78% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #134 of 495 in AI & Data. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is C.U. on the Show worth listening to?
Yes - C.U. on the Show outscores 78% of the B2B ai & data podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a ai & data operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts C.U. on the Show?
C.U. on the Show is hosted by Doug English.
How often does C.U. on the Show publish?
C.U. on the Show publishes monthly, has 97 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-06-30.
Which C.U. on the Show episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "How Credit Unions Are Using AI to Support Board Communication and Strategic Planning" (70/100) - a good place to start.

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Jeremy WoodKirk Drake

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

ChatGPTPrompt engineeringCustom GPTsStandard Operating Procedures (SOPs)Executive summariesAI note-takersBoard meeting transcriptsMaster promptsFFIEC regulationsNCUA

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