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97 episodes · publishes monthly · latest 2026-06-30 · ~35 min/episode
Rank
#1384
Substance
70.0
/ 100
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Scored 2026-07
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Top 22%
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C.U. on the Show ranks #1384 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 70.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and specificity & evidence. Jeremy Wood is a genuine SVP/CSO practitioner who has actually implemented these workflows inside a credit union, giving the episode real credibility; Kirk Drake is experienced but has shifted substantially toward being a professional AI coach and evangelist, which slightly dilutes the pure operator perspective.
Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.
The episode contains a handful of genuinely useful practitioner insights - the master prompt to custom GPT progression, recording training sessions to auto-generate SOPs, and the warning about board members weaponizing AI for micro-level regulatory nitpicking - but these are diluted by heavy padding, repeated affirmations, and basic GIGO advice that any AI user already knows.
“the downside of live use ChatGPT or any of these tools in the board meeting. It enables a board member to go to a micro level of understanding that is probably not appropriate for a board because they can get down to the nuance of a net worth ratio and what the regulatory framework is that isn't necessarily policy, isn't necessarily strategy, but could be weaponized in a board meeting”
“recording those transcripts, use that to build your SOPs. Just upload the transcript and say, I need an SOP based on what I just taught. Unbelievable how effective that that SOP comes out first try”
The attorney-client privilege and fiduciary duty concern around boards using AI to summarize board packages is a genuinely fresh and underexplored angle, but the bulk of the episode recycles standard AI-adoption advice and widely circulated takes like 'it's not AI but someone with AI that will take your job.'
“If you're the credit union, don't give the tool to the board to put the board package in to have the analyze it. That breaks your confidentiality and your attorney client privilege”
“Is if the board member isn't reading the full board package, are they doing their fiduciary responsibility versus having ChatGPT summarize the board package”
Jeremy Wood is a genuine SVP/CSO practitioner who has actually implemented these workflows inside a credit union, giving the episode real credibility; Kirk Drake is experienced but has shifted substantially toward being a professional AI coach and evangelist, which slightly dilutes the pure operator perspective.
“we actually implemented an AI note taker to record the meetings and generate transcripts. And what we found is not only did it make us a little more efficient, but it allowed everybody in the room to pay attention”
“I had him run it, and then it was immediately better than what we had done, but just strictly a Word document with a master prompt”
There are a handful of concrete specifics - the Orca CU bank-statement-to-membership product built in six weeks, the 80/20 Claude-to-ChatGPT usage split, the 25-person biweekly entrepreneur group - but many claims are vague, unverified, and unsupported by data, and the overall ratio of abstraction to concrete evidence is unfavorable.
“built that product end to end using AI in about six weeks, had it live on the website”
“I do 100% of FPA analysis. Anything finance related is Claude. I don't even bother with ChatGPT. In fact I probably only use Chat GPT about 5 or 10% of the time”
The host asks a few useful clarifying and follow-up questions (on hallucination, on the nature of master prompts) but predominantly cheerleads, re-states guest points back to them verbatim, and never challenges a claim or creates productive disagreement, allowing Kirk Drake's extended monologues to go entirely unchallenged.
“that, that. I think that is a huge takeaway. Kirk, you want to go, uh, any further with that? I think that is a very, very significant takeaway. I want to make sure our listeners hear that”
“have you seen cases, have you seen any cases of that? And uh, if you have, where did it show up and what did you do about it?”
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