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Welcome to the Aesopian's MSP Marketing Podcast - where the wisest in the channel come to get their MSP marketing insights.

10 episodes · publishes monthly · latest 2026-09-15 · ~48 min/episode

Rank

#1798

Substance

69.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Marketing rank

#258 of 995

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Across the index

#1798 of 6219

Substance

Top 29%

outscores 71% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Aesopian's ranks #1798 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 69.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on specificity & evidence and insight density. The episode contains a respectable density of concrete numbers - CPL at different Meta maturity stages ($45 new, $25 after months, $5 floor), a specific webinar breakdown (81 registrants, $350 spend, 30 attendees, 5 next-steps, 1 sale), the Meta 50-conversion/7-day learning threshold, LinkedIn's 1,000-invite-per-week limit, and a Google Ads CPL comparison - anchoring abstract advice in real data.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

14.0 / 20

There are genuine tactical nuggets - the LinkedIn event invite trick, Meta algorithm learning-phase mechanics, Trojan horse AI packaging, and SDR text-within-minutes outreach - but they are heavily padded with relationship platitudes, first-person backstory, and generic advice that an experienced MSP marketer would already know.

“you can actually invite up to a thousand of your connections every single week to the event”

“All the targeting is done in the ad creative and the landing page. Meta basically figures out through machine learning who to show the ad to”

Originality

12.0 / 20

The Trojan horse AI project idea and LinkedIn event invite tactic are reasonably fresh for the MSP niche, but the underlying framework leans heavily on borrowed thinking from Dan Kennedy, Alex Hormozi, and Alex Mosey, and the 'it's all about relationships' thesis is generic rather than contrarian.

“they're not actually selling managed IT services in their webinars or cyber security. The hot topics AI that gets people to the webinar because they want to see, you know, what the cool thing is with AI. Every is on everyone, tip of everyone's tongue. But more importantly, it's the Trojan horse for the managed IT services”

“dog whistle copy. So in your ad copy and your ad creative, calling out specifically who it is you want to come to the webinar”

Guest Caliber

14.0 / 20

Scott is a genuine practitioner who has run these webinars himself, managed Meta ad spend out of his own pocket, and worked with nearly 500 MSPs over eight years - solid real-world credibility - but he is a niche MSP marketing consultant rather than a scale operator, and his headline results (one customer from his best webinar) are modest.

“I've worked for 492 across the whole globe”

“I've been doing webinars for 12 years, but I really zoomed in two and a half years”

Specificity & Evidence

17.0 / 20

The episode contains a respectable density of concrete numbers - CPL at different Meta maturity stages ($45 new, $25 after months, $5 floor), a specific webinar breakdown (81 registrants, $350 spend, 30 attendees, 5 next-steps, 1 sale), the Meta 50-conversion/7-day learning threshold, LinkedIn's 1,000-invite-per-week limit, and a Google Ads CPL comparison - anchoring abstract advice in real data.

“if you're starting from fresh or if you haven't, like run a meta ad in a number of years you're going to be paying probably around about $45 per lead”

“I had 81 people registered onto it. The cost for me was like 350 bucks. Um, 30 people turned up to it. So I usually get around about 30% attendance to my webinar. Um, and then I got five from it”

Conversational Craft

12.0 / 20

The host contributes useful context - a government contractor growing to $30 - 40M on weekly webinars, and a Google Ads CPL benchmark - and asks structurally sound questions about frequency and SDR process, but follow-ups are mostly supportive rather than probing, and several claims (492 clients, AI Trojan horse results) go unchallenged.

“if you're running Google Ads, you know, you might be paying a thousand dollars per lead at the very, very low end”

“what sort of frequency are you recommending for these webinars?”

Standout episodes

  • Aesopians E9 - Webinar Lead Generation For MSPs Ft. Scott Millar From IT Rockstars

    2026-05-22

    69

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 8 tracked in total.

  • Aesopians E9 - Webinar Lead Generation For MSPs Ft. Scott Millar From IT Rockstars

    2026-05-22 · 50 min

    69 / 100
  • Aesopians E8 - How SaaS Are Maintaining Brand Integrity & Operationalizing Growth Ft. Mohamed Hamad

    2025-06-04 · 43 min

    Not yet scored
  • Aesopians E7 - Joining The Feel Good MSP Sales Training Program Ft. Brian Gillette

    2025-05-19 · 52 min

    Not yet scored
  • Aesopians E5 - Tech To Rep, Year 1 As An MSP Salesperson Ft. Ashton Fortuna

    2025-04-21 · 44 min

    Not yet scored
  • Aesopians E4 - Leading With Cybersecurity To Spark MSP Sales Conversations

    2025-03-14 · 52 min

    Not yet scored

Frequently asked

What is Aesopian's's substance score?
Aesopian's scores 69.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #1798 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 71% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #258 of 995 in Marketing. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Aesopian's worth listening to?
Yes - Aesopian's outscores 71% of the B2B marketing podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a marketing operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts Aesopian's?
Aesopian's is hosted by Tortoise and Hare Software.
How often does Aesopian's publish?
Aesopian's publishes monthly, has 10 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-09-15.
Which Aesopian's episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Aesopians E9 - Webinar Lead Generation For MSPs Ft. Scott Millar From IT Rockstars" (69/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

LinkedIn · 3IT RockstarsKaseyaMetaGoogle AdsHiscoxMagnetic MarketingMicrosoft TeamsYouTubeFacebookThird Wonder MarketingTortoise and Hare SoftwareHubSpotSalesforceCopperInsightlyPipedriveActive Campaign

Guests who've appeared

Scott MillerMohamed HamadBrian GilletteAshton FortunaMichael Bakalik

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

relationship buildingMeta advertisingFirst principles thinkingreferral marketingIT RockstarsLinkedIn event invitationswebinar lead generationdog whistle copyDan Kennedy direct marketingmanaged IT service providersHubSpotdesign systemsMarketing automationSaaS marketingLead nurture sequencesAdvanced Custom FieldsWonder ThemeEmail marketing workflows

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