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Keeping IT Real

Hosted by vCom Solutions

Welcome to the original Keeping IT Real podcast. IT is not what it used to be. This podcast features honest and transparent conversations about what it takes to manage corporate technology and expenses today.

84 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2026-02-10 · ~39 min/episode

Rank

#3328

Substance

60.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Ops rank

#250 of 459

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Across the index

#3328 of 6185

Substance

Top 54%

outscores 46% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Keeping IT Real ranks #3328 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 60.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Andy Sen is a legitimate long-tenure practitioner - IBM e-commerce in the late 90s, early Salesforce App Exchange, and 15+ years as CTO at AppDirect - giving him real operator credibility, but the conversation reveals him primarily as a product advocate for Devs AI rather than a source of hard-won operational insight from scale.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

13.0 / 20

A handful of genuinely non-obvious observations surface - AI driving IT decentralization, bottoms-up discovery as a management tool, and the 'duplicate work matters less now' reframe - but they are underdeveloped and regularly buried under product promotion for Devs AI, repeated analogies, and affirming back-and-forth filler.

“AI is really driving decentralization. And I don't think anyone expected this.”

“I think the pace at which people are building solutions, um, means that having duplicate work is much less of a factor than before.”

Originality

11.0 / 20

The episode recycles the orchestra conductor metaphor and the email-adoption analogy multiple times without adding new depth, and most AI cautions (hallucination, supervision, start small) are standard 2024-era commentary; the one genuinely fresh claim - that the speed of AI building makes duplicate effort nearly irrelevant - is stated but not argued through.

“Your employees have now been upgraded from musicians to conductors.”

“it's almost, uh, again, I'll go back to my email analogy.”

Guest Caliber

16.0 / 20

Andy Sen is a legitimate long-tenure practitioner - IBM e-commerce in the late 90s, early Salesforce App Exchange, and 15+ years as CTO at AppDirect - giving him real operator credibility, but the conversation reveals him primarily as a product advocate for Devs AI rather than a source of hard-won operational insight from scale.

“At Salesforce, I was working on the App Exchange, which is, I believe, the first real marketplace for business products, products that a CIO would consider within their company.”

“I joined up direct uh, in 2009 and I've uh, been there ever since.”

Specificity & Evidence

11.0 / 20

A smattering of real company names and product references (HubSpot, NetSuite, Claude Code, Panasonic, Delta Airlines) provide some grounding, but there are essentially no hard metrics, timelines, or case study outcomes - the lone data point is an offhand 'like 40 people using that,' and even the Satya Nadella reference is vague and unverified.

“we use HubSpot, we use NetSuite, we're not having an AI close our financial books”

“it's being used not just by the, uh, by the builder, but it's being used by his own department. There's like 40 people using that.”

Conversational Craft

9.0 / 20

The host opens with compliments about the guest's voice, asks entirely predictable category questions ('what excites you about tech,' 'what are the words of caution'), never pushes back on any claim, and frequently takes over to editorialize rather than extract deeper specifics from the guest; the conversation functions as a PR chat rather than a probing interview.

“That being said, now we look forward as far as you can look forward. What are you excited about with tech?”

“What are the words of caution? What are its limitations? What should we not. What should we make sure that we don't lean on AI too much for.”

Standout episodes

  • S3E33 - Andy Sen, CTO of AppDirect

    2026-02-10

    60

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • S3E33 - Andy Sen, CTO of AppDirect

    2026-02-10 · 32 min

    60 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Keeping IT Real's substance score?
Keeping IT Real scores 60.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #3328 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 46% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #250 of 459 in Ops. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Keeping IT Real worth listening to?
Keeping IT Real is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 60.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts Keeping IT Real?
Keeping IT Real is hosted by vCom Solutions.
How often does Keeping IT Real publish?
Keeping IT Real publishes fortnightly, has 84 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-02-10.
Which Keeping IT Real episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "S3E33 - Andy Sen, CTO of AppDirect" (60/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

AppDirectIBMSalesforceWalmart GlobalDelta AirlinesPanasonicMicrosoftAmazonHubSpotNetSuiteDevs AI

Guests who've appeared

Andy SenMari ShankarNayan PatelMurali RajagopalanDuane Massey

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

LLM (Large Language Models)Shadow ITAI hallucinationDecentralizationRole-based access controlsAppDirectDevs AIenterprise security agreementsbottom-up adoptionSalesforce App ExchangeData governanceSingle source of truthdata qualityData warehouseData ingestionData cleansing automationTelarusgenerative AI for data cleaning

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