58 Is it overwhelm or is it time to uplevel?
Joyfully Unstoppable | Executive leadership for women · 2026-06-23 · 22 min
Substance score
19 / 100
Five dimensions, 20 points each
What our scoring noted
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
Insight Density
The episode makes one mildly useful distinction (overwhelm = nervous system flooded/shut down vs. leveling up = scared but energised), but the surrounding 22 minutes is padded with basic self-help platitudes, personal domestic anecdotes, and generic advice a B2B operator has heard a hundred times. There is almost nothing a seasoned founder or leader couldn't have articulated themselves.
Take a minute, brain dump all of those things...Just brain dump it so your mind can get a little space
Maybe take a nap. Maybe just lay down. If you've got the energy, maybe go for a walk. Take a long, hot bath.
Originality
The stick-shift analogy is a personable framing device but the underlying framework—overwhelm means stop, growth discomfort means push through in small steps—is a standard coaching trope. The nervous system and fight/flight/fawn/freeze content is ubiquitous in pop-wellness circles with no new angle added.
fight, flight, fawn, and freeze
your body budget is running in the red, right? You've got more withdrawals than inputs
Guest Caliber
This is a solo monologue; there is no guest. The host is a coach and speaker, not an operator who has run a business at meaningful scale. The only third party referenced is an unnamed local entrepreneur whose experience is used as a brief anecdote, not examined in depth.
I'm your host, Becky Hamm, executive coach, speaker, and founder of Women Lead Well
I was having a fantastic conversation with a woman recently. A fellow entrepreneur here locally
Specificity & Evidence
Zero data, zero named companies, zero metrics, and zero cited research appear in the episode. The only 'evidence' offered is domestic personal anecdotes—picking up socks, choosing between Thai and Mexican—which provide colour but no substantive grounding for any claim.
I just cannot bend down to pick up the sock to take it where it needs to go
My husband can ask me what I want for dinner, and I cannot give him an answer to the question
Conversational Craft
Being a solo episode, there are no guest questions, follow-ups, or any opportunity for productive disagreement. The host does provide a minimal structure (define overwhelm → define leveling up → three diagnostic questions), but the monologue format precludes the intellectual friction that raises this dimension's score.
I'm gonna give you a few questions to ask yourself
So let's start with when you are overwhelmed. What does that feel like in many of our bodies?
Conversation analysis
Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the verbal tics along the way.
Filler words
Episode notes
Send us Fan Mail Have you ever felt completely overwhelmed and wondered whether you need to slow down, or whether you're actually being called to step into something bigger? In this episode of Joyfully Unstoppable , executive coach Becky Hamm explores the subtle but important difference between true overwhelm and the discomfort that often accompanies growth. While both experiences can trigger stress, self-doubt, and uncertainty, they require very different responses. Becky shares how to recognize what's happening in your body, understand what your nervous system is telling you, and determine whether it's time to rest or time to uplevel. Using a powerful analogy, Becky explains why growth often feels uncomfortable and what to do when you're standing on the edge of your next level of leadership, business, or life. If you've been questioning yourself, feeling stuck, or wondering whether you're ready for what's next, this episode will help you gain clarity and confidence in your next step.
Full transcript
22 minTranscribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.
1 00:00:05,500 --> 00:00:09,089 Welcome to Joyfully Unstoppable, the podcast for women who are 2 00:00:09,089 --> 00:00:11,949 ready to succeed without the stress. 3 00:00:12,580 --> 00:00:17,390 Whether you're leading a team, a classroom, a boardroom, or your 4 00:00:17,429 --> 00:00:21,309 own big, beautiful life, I am so glad you found us. 5 00:00:21,839 --> 00:00:25,670 I'm your host, Becky Hamm, executive coach, speaker, and 6 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:27,250 founder of Women Lead Well. 7 00:00:27,859 --> 00:00:32,659 Join me each week for straight talk, practical tips, and a dash 8 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:34,460 of encouragement. 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,070 Hello, friend. 10 00:00:36,130 --> 00:00:39,179 I hope that you are having a great day. 11 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:45,890 Today, we are gonna talk about are you feeling overwhelmed, or 12 00:00:45,929 --> 00:00:49,939 are you just getting ready to step into your new level and 13 00:00:49,939 --> 00:00:51,770 it's a tiny bit scary? 14 00:00:52,270 --> 00:00:56,149 I have worked with many women who come to me overwhelmed. 15 00:00:56,509 --> 00:00:59,729 There's too much on their plate, that work is not lighting them 16 00:00:59,729 --> 00:01:06,629 up, and it is clear that what needs to change in order for 17 00:01:06,629 --> 00:01:11,439 them to find their peace and their joy again And isn't it 18 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:16,700 sneaky then that many times as we are getting ready to take a 19 00:01:16,709 --> 00:01:20,920 big leap forward, maybe we're jumping off the cliff, we're 20 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,920 leaning into our growth. 21 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,260 We are growing, we are taking the next step in our life and 22 00:01:27,260 --> 00:01:33,150 our business, and it feels overwhelming, and we start to 23 00:01:33,150 --> 00:01:36,989 question whether we're capable of operating at that level. 24 00:01:37,489 --> 00:01:42,359 The feelings can look very similar, almost identical, but 25 00:01:42,359 --> 00:01:47,530 the experiences and the next right step is different. 26 00:01:47,879 --> 00:01:49,409 And so let's talk about it. 27 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,890 I was having a fantastic conversation with a woman 28 00:01:51,890 --> 00:01:52,340 recently. 29 00:01:52,340 --> 00:01:55,739 A fellow entrepreneur here locally, about our experiences 30 00:01:55,790 --> 00:01:59,049 of running a business in our local area. 31 00:01:59,540 --> 00:02:06,730 And I had made the, the comment that y- I, I grew up driving a 32 00:02:06,730 --> 00:02:08,419 stick shift, a manual transmission. 33 00:02:08,650 --> 00:02:12,189 And when you drive stick shift, in the beginning, you kind of 34 00:02:12,819 --> 00:02:17,240 figure out when you, when you should shift and how to shift, 35 00:02:17,469 --> 00:02:20,830 and over time you get the feel of it, that you feel the RPMs 36 00:02:20,849 --> 00:02:21,449 revving up. 37 00:02:21,449 --> 00:02:24,659 You kind of feel the car feels different as you're driving, and 38 00:02:24,659 --> 00:02:28,240 you know,"Oh, it's time for me to shift from second to third, 39 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,919 or third to fourth, or, or fourth to fifth," if you're 40 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:30,550 getting on the highway. 41 00:02:31,030 --> 00:02:32,409 And you just drive by feel. 42 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,800 But you can feel that it is time to shift gears. 43 00:02:37,219 --> 00:02:41,409 And, um, the woman remarked that, that that was a really 44 00:02:41,409 --> 00:02:44,889 useful analogy for her because as she has been growing her 45 00:02:44,889 --> 00:02:47,500 business and going through some changes in her personal life, 46 00:02:47,889 --> 00:02:50,659 that she has been feeling overwhelmed. 47 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:54,509 But as I was talking about the shifting gears and leveling up, 48 00:02:54,530 --> 00:02:58,569 that, that she sees now that it's not overwhelm, that it is 49 00:02:58,569 --> 00:03:01,539 in fact she's moving into the next level of her life, both 50 00:03:01,539 --> 00:03:03,180 professionally and personally. 51 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,590 And she also grew up driving stick, and so she understood 52 00:03:06,590 --> 00:03:10,479 that, that metaphor of the feel of the car as you're getting 53 00:03:10,479 --> 00:03:12,539 ready to shift gears and move to the next. 54 00:03:13,090 --> 00:03:14,590 And so that's what we're gonna talk about today. 55 00:03:14,620 --> 00:03:19,629 I wanna distinguish for you- What it looks like to be 56 00:03:19,689 --> 00:03:23,939 overwhelmed, and so how it feels kind of in our bodies what it 57 00:03:23,939 --> 00:03:27,360 feels like, some of the symptoms that we experience when we're 58 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,120 overwhelmed. 59 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,009 What is at the root of overwhelm? 60 00:03:31,009 --> 00:03:33,189 So what's really behind that feeling of overwhelm? 61 00:03:33,620 --> 00:03:35,520 And then what you do. 62 00:03:35,919 --> 00:03:36,400 Like, not... 63 00:03:36,430 --> 00:03:40,909 I don't, I don't wanna say cure, but, but what is your best next 64 00:03:40,919 --> 00:03:43,840 step if you are experiencing overwhelm? 65 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:49,169 And then contrast that to leveling up, to shifting gears 66 00:03:49,169 --> 00:03:52,000 into that next le- taking that step, jumping off that cliff, 67 00:03:52,439 --> 00:03:57,919 and what that feels like in the body, what some of the symptoms 68 00:03:57,919 --> 00:04:01,090 are, some of the signs that you are moving from one level to the 69 00:04:01,090 --> 00:04:01,650 next. 70 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,409 Because we think it's gonna feel amazing, and it really doesn't 71 00:04:04,419 --> 00:04:06,000 for most of us most of the time. 72 00:04:06,009 --> 00:04:09,319 It's a pretty scary experience or frustrating or difficult, 73 00:04:09,810 --> 00:04:11,129 painful experience. 74 00:04:11,629 --> 00:04:12,900 What is at the root? 75 00:04:12,949 --> 00:04:16,629 And so what's really going on when we move from one level to 76 00:04:16,629 --> 00:04:17,250 the next? 77 00:04:17,629 --> 00:04:18,649 And then same thing. 78 00:04:18,660 --> 00:04:20,259 Okay, so now this is where you are. 79 00:04:20,259 --> 00:04:21,019 What do you do? 80 00:04:21,180 --> 00:04:22,410 What are your next steps? 81 00:04:23,089 --> 00:04:26,589 And so let's start with when you are overwhelmed. 82 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,069 What does that feel like in many of our bodies? 83 00:04:30,110 --> 00:04:32,970 And I say many because every human being is different, and 84 00:04:32,970 --> 00:04:36,050 what I would encourage you is to get to know yourself well enough 85 00:04:36,569 --> 00:04:40,600 so that you can say,"This is what it feels like," as opposed 86 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,470 to,"This is what it feels like when I'm getting ready to move 87 00:04:43,470 --> 00:04:48,500 to the next level or when I am getting ready to, jump off the 88 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:49,430 cliff" or what have you. 89 00:04:49,930 --> 00:04:54,680 Overwhelm typically in our bodies is a sign that our 90 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,569 nervous system is flooded, that there are too many sensory 91 00:04:58,579 --> 00:05:02,509 inputs and our body, our nervous system is at capacity. 92 00:05:02,519 --> 00:05:07,500 It's at the max level of coping with current demands, and it 93 00:05:07,550 --> 00:05:08,699 can't take any more. 94 00:05:08,959 --> 00:05:12,759 Or maybe in extreme cases you've actually surpassed your maximum 95 00:05:12,759 --> 00:05:17,709 capacity, and the demands on your nervous system exceed your 96 00:05:17,730 --> 00:05:18,439 capacity. 97 00:05:18,939 --> 00:05:23,259 And so that feels like in the body that, like, everything 98 00:05:23,259 --> 00:05:24,019 feels heavy. 99 00:05:24,569 --> 00:05:27,629 You feel kind of shut down. 100 00:05:27,970 --> 00:05:31,980 Everything feels urgent, but everything feels equally urgent. 101 00:05:32,019 --> 00:05:33,759 There's not a prioritization. 102 00:05:33,779 --> 00:05:35,800 It's everything is too much. 103 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:40,180 And to give an example, because I can feel this way from time to 104 00:05:40,180 --> 00:05:45,250 time, when I get to this place, it is I just cannot. 105 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,259 I cannot take the trash out. 106 00:05:48,670 --> 00:05:51,779 I cannot pick the, my kids' clothes up. 107 00:05:51,779 --> 00:05:54,670 My beautiful daughters, I love them, but they will strip naked 108 00:05:54,670 --> 00:05:56,990 in the kitchen, and their clothes are just all over the 109 00:05:56,990 --> 00:05:57,399 place. 110 00:05:57,860 --> 00:06:00,790 And then we, they, they usually pick it up and take it into the 111 00:06:00,790 --> 00:06:02,750 laundry room, but sometimes they forget. 112 00:06:02,750 --> 00:06:06,740 But so I just cannot bend down to pick up the sock to take it 113 00:06:06,740 --> 00:06:07,620 where it needs to go. 114 00:06:08,050 --> 00:06:08,430 I will... 115 00:06:08,459 --> 00:06:11,310 I just sit down and zone out. 116 00:06:11,529 --> 00:06:13,889 My husband can ask me what I want for dinner, and I cannot 117 00:06:13,889 --> 00:06:15,120 give him an answer to the question. 118 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:18,269 When I'm feeling overwhelmed, I just cannot. 119 00:06:18,769 --> 00:06:21,990 I might have a to-do list a mile long, and I might feel like 120 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:25,019 there's everything that I need to be doing, and I cannot. 121 00:06:25,339 --> 00:06:29,860 And so that feeling of overwhelm is that everything feels urgent. 122 00:06:29,889 --> 00:06:32,009 There's no differentiation or prioritization. 123 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:37,899 It all feels too much, and typically, we tend to shut down 124 00:06:37,959 --> 00:06:41,000 in the case of overwhelm because it is too much for our body. 125 00:06:41,410 --> 00:06:43,379 And again, every body is different. 126 00:06:43,389 --> 00:06:45,970 That is kind of a freeze response, as we're talking about 127 00:06:45,970 --> 00:06:49,709 nervous system regulation, the fight, flight, fawn, and freeze. 128 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,550 I just described a freeze. 129 00:06:52,089 --> 00:06:54,370 That's pretty common in overwhelm, but you might react 130 00:06:54,370 --> 00:06:54,829 differently. 131 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,050 You might react by kicking into over-functioning, and that might 132 00:06:59,050 --> 00:07:01,490 be symptomatic of a flight response or even a fight 133 00:07:01,509 --> 00:07:06,120 response Oftentimes some of the symptoms in addition to that 134 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,129 just I cannot, that shutting down, like that feeling in your 135 00:07:09,129 --> 00:07:11,800 body of everything being heavy, everything being too much. 136 00:07:12,279 --> 00:07:15,699 Brain fog is pretty common with overwhelm. 137 00:07:16,170 --> 00:07:19,110 That desire, like I just described, to withdrawal or 138 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:24,199 freeze, being unable to prioritize, being unable to make 139 00:07:24,199 --> 00:07:25,310 simple choices. 140 00:07:25,779 --> 00:07:27,899 Like,"Hey Becky, I'm gonna order in tonight. 141 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,009 Do you want Mexican or Thai?" Brain can't answer. 142 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:32,160 Like it's too much. 143 00:07:32,660 --> 00:07:35,949 So all of those are pretty common symptoms of overwhelm, 144 00:07:36,449 --> 00:07:39,790 and at the root, what's on the bottom, what's underneath all of 145 00:07:39,790 --> 00:07:45,769 that overwhelm is that you, your brain, your body, you have been 146 00:07:45,769 --> 00:07:51,620 facing too many like must-dos, requirements, and I'm gonna call 147 00:07:51,620 --> 00:07:53,730 these passive challenges. 148 00:07:54,139 --> 00:07:58,920 So these are things that you have to do that, um, require 149 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,220 your attention and your energy, but aren't necessarily filling 150 00:08:02,220 --> 00:08:02,779 you up. 151 00:08:03,279 --> 00:08:05,199 So you've got a whole bunch of energy leaks. 152 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:07,759 We've talked about energy engines and energy leaks on the 153 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:08,970 podcast in the past. 154 00:08:09,220 --> 00:08:11,189 You got a whole lot of energy leaks, a whole lot of things are 155 00:08:11,189 --> 00:08:14,600 draining your energy, but you don't have things that are, that 156 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,129 are giving you energy, that are life-affirming, and so you are 157 00:08:18,180 --> 00:08:19,290 operating on empty. 158 00:08:19,639 --> 00:08:22,490 Also, do you remember the, the episode on the body budget? 159 00:08:22,500 --> 00:08:25,480 I'll try to remember to link it in the podcast notes, show notes 160 00:08:25,509 --> 00:08:25,920 below. 161 00:08:26,420 --> 00:08:29,110 Um, but your body budget is running in the red, right? 162 00:08:29,110 --> 00:08:31,860 You've got more withdrawals than inputs. 163 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,110 So when you are overwhelmed, what do you do? 164 00:08:35,610 --> 00:08:39,870 If you are like many women, um, y- you should do the opposite of 165 00:08:39,870 --> 00:08:41,190 what you want to do. 166 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,169 What you should do is to stop pushing. 167 00:08:44,669 --> 00:08:48,529 Take a minute, brain dump all of those things, all of those 168 00:08:48,539 --> 00:08:52,389 urgent things that are pushing on you, get'em out of your head 169 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:55,070 into your phone, in your notes app, or just onto a piece of 170 00:08:55,070 --> 00:08:55,549 paper. 171 00:08:55,940 --> 00:09:00,549 Just brain dump it so your mind can get a little space. 172 00:09:01,049 --> 00:09:03,450 And then maybe take a nap. 173 00:09:04,129 --> 00:09:06,320 Maybe just lay down. 174 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,159 If you've got the energy, maybe go for a walk. 175 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,490 Take a long, hot bath. 176 00:09:11,990 --> 00:09:16,090 But what your nervous system needs is that time to come back 177 00:09:16,129 --> 00:09:22,080 to center and to quiet itself without stimulus, without input, 178 00:09:22,409 --> 00:09:26,389 but to just renew itself a little bit. 179 00:09:26,889 --> 00:09:29,799 So if you practice any kind of nervous system regulation 180 00:09:29,799 --> 00:09:32,919 techniques, like breathing exercises or other somatic 181 00:09:32,919 --> 00:09:36,629 practices or yoga, this would be a great thing to do when you're 182 00:09:36,629 --> 00:09:40,470 feeling overwhelmed to help that nervous system regulate and for 183 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:45,570 your body to feel its calmness again, to feel safety in it 184 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:46,110 again. 185 00:09:46,610 --> 00:09:48,120 So all of that is overwhelm. 186 00:09:48,129 --> 00:09:52,929 Overwhelm comes from it is too much, the nervous system has too 187 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,259 many inputs, and it's just hit the wall. 188 00:09:55,759 --> 00:09:59,120 And look, we see this, you are a grown woman, and I'm not 189 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,309 infantilizing you, but humans are humans. 190 00:10:01,379 --> 00:10:02,860 Baby humans are humans. 191 00:10:03,139 --> 00:10:03,960 We are humans. 192 00:10:04,620 --> 00:10:09,919 And any of you who have dealt with little newborns, you will 193 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:13,919 remember that they can get overstimulated pretty easily, 194 00:10:14,230 --> 00:10:19,840 and when they do, oftentimes they just absolute meltdown, 195 00:10:19,850 --> 00:10:24,370 sobbing, scream crying until they fall asleep, right? 196 00:10:24,870 --> 00:10:31,070 That is the kind of overwhelm, that is the unfiltered, un- um, 197 00:10:31,370 --> 00:10:36,220 socially conditioned response to overwhelm, is I'm gonna purge it 198 00:10:36,220 --> 00:10:36,720 all. 199 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:38,639 I can receive no more inputs. 200 00:10:38,669 --> 00:10:42,409 I purge it all until the body shuts down and lets me rest, 201 00:10:42,460 --> 00:10:45,250 renews my energy, and then I come back for a new day. 202 00:10:45,750 --> 00:10:49,590 You grown woman are probably not gonna ugly cry in the same way 203 00:10:49,620 --> 00:10:50,669 that a newborn does. 204 00:10:51,269 --> 00:10:53,649 You might feel better if you did, and so I would hold that 205 00:10:53,659 --> 00:10:57,500 open as a very therapeutic kind of cathartic exercise for you. 206 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,169 But the whole idea is you shut everything else out and you get 207 00:11:01,169 --> 00:11:03,090 quiet and you get yourself some rest. 208 00:11:03,590 --> 00:11:05,039 This is why people dissociate, right? 209 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:06,110 Why we scroll Facebook. 210 00:11:06,149 --> 00:11:08,330 But you're still getting the sensory inputs, so don't do it. 211 00:11:08,340 --> 00:11:10,230 That's not an effective response. 212 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:15,230 But it is one that a lot of us take Okay, so that is overwhelm. 213 00:11:15,730 --> 00:11:19,649 Well, what is different about that experience when you are 214 00:11:19,649 --> 00:11:24,279 getting ready to take a big leap in your life and move to that 215 00:11:24,279 --> 00:11:24,860 next level? 216 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:29,720 You've got the promotion or, you know, me, when I left my very 217 00:11:29,730 --> 00:11:34,710 stable, very lucrative job in order to open my own business. 218 00:11:35,210 --> 00:11:38,480 Whew, it was a big up level in terms of my quality of life and 219 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,350 my passion and my d- and I love this life so much, but holy 220 00:11:42,350 --> 00:11:45,799 moly, it felt very scary in my body. 221 00:11:46,299 --> 00:11:48,389 And we have spoken before about this, right? 222 00:11:48,389 --> 00:11:51,980 Your brain's number one job, that prefrontal cortex has one 223 00:11:51,980 --> 00:11:53,970 job, and that one job is keep you alive. 224 00:11:54,500 --> 00:11:57,009 And where you are right now, even if you're overwhelmed, 225 00:11:57,309 --> 00:11:59,730 where you are right now, you're alive. 226 00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:03,940 The heart is pumping, the blood is flowing, your lungs are going 227 00:12:03,940 --> 00:12:05,210 in and out, you're breathing. 228 00:12:05,549 --> 00:12:09,440 And so there is a very strong status quo bias in your brain to 229 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,809 keep you exactly where you are. 230 00:12:11,389 --> 00:12:14,460 And so if you are in a place where you are getting ready to 231 00:12:14,460 --> 00:12:17,669 level up, well, that can be pretty freaking scary to your 232 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,299 brain, and so your brain can send some threat signals, and 233 00:12:21,299 --> 00:12:25,299 many of those signals mirror the same signals that your brain 234 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:26,850 gives you when you're overwhelmed. 235 00:12:27,350 --> 00:12:30,950 So, how do you differentiate that? 236 00:12:31,450 --> 00:12:35,129 Well, I'm gonna say, one, it feels different in your body. 237 00:12:35,299 --> 00:12:40,009 If the overwhelm feels like everything is urgent, everything 238 00:12:40,009 --> 00:12:45,070 is too much, like, I just cannot so when you are upleveling or 239 00:12:45,070 --> 00:12:47,990 when you're taking that leap to the next level, when you're 240 00:12:47,990 --> 00:12:49,399 shifting gears, right? 241 00:12:49,399 --> 00:12:52,539 Going from fourth to fifth, getting on the highway, it can 242 00:12:52,549 --> 00:12:57,389 feel scary because there can be a lot happening at once, and it 243 00:12:57,389 --> 00:13:00,370 can be m- you can be moving faster than you have in the 244 00:13:00,370 --> 00:13:01,090 past. 245 00:13:01,500 --> 00:13:05,570 So you can be afraid, but it feels very alive. 246 00:13:05,570 --> 00:13:07,269 It feels electric. 247 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:12,120 It is this mixture of excitement and kind of jittery energy, and 248 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,629 that jittery energy can feel bad in our bodies. 249 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:20,250 It can feel kind of like the overwhelm of there's all of this 250 00:13:20,250 --> 00:13:22,070 thing, you know, everything is urgent. 251 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,779 Urgent and jittery can feel the same or feel similar. 252 00:13:25,279 --> 00:13:28,799 But when you're getting ready to step into that next level, it 253 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:30,250 can feel like a lot. 254 00:13:30,649 --> 00:13:34,240 It can feel even too much because your body's not used to 255 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:40,169 it yet, but it is scary and excited, not shut down. 256 00:13:40,669 --> 00:13:43,809 That's the distinction between being overwhelmed and being on 257 00:13:43,809 --> 00:13:46,350 the precipice of moving to the next level. 258 00:13:46,850 --> 00:13:49,169 The symptoms also are different. 259 00:13:49,210 --> 00:13:51,940 With that overwhelm, it is that shutdown. 260 00:13:51,950 --> 00:13:54,610 It is that I cannot handle anymore. 261 00:13:54,639 --> 00:13:55,590 It is all too much. 262 00:13:55,590 --> 00:13:56,850 I can't make simple decisions. 263 00:13:56,850 --> 00:13:58,070 I can't prioritize. 264 00:13:58,570 --> 00:14:01,850 When you're getting ready to step into your next level, you 265 00:14:01,850 --> 00:14:04,990 are more likely to be experiencing the imposter 266 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,850 syndrome and the doubt The I don't know that I'm ready for 267 00:14:08,850 --> 00:14:12,429 this, I don't know that I can handle this because you're 268 00:14:12,429 --> 00:14:15,090 stepping out of your comfort zone and because that prefrontal 269 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:19,429 cortex is realizing that there is change and the change is 270 00:14:19,429 --> 00:14:21,169 perceived as a threat. 271 00:14:21,669 --> 00:14:23,850 So what do you do? 272 00:14:24,350 --> 00:14:27,480 If it is this, I'm getting ready to move into my next level, and 273 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,960 it's feeling like it's too much, I'm feeling like I'm not able to 274 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,820 do it, well, the idea is different. 275 00:14:34,309 --> 00:14:36,509 The cure when you're overwhelmed is you really wanna take a big 276 00:14:36,509 --> 00:14:38,279 step back and renew, right? 277 00:14:38,279 --> 00:14:41,500 Let that nervous system regulate, take a break, rest, 278 00:14:41,549 --> 00:14:43,419 restore your actual body. 279 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:46,769 When you're getting ready to take the next step, you wanna 280 00:14:46,779 --> 00:14:50,370 take a piece that feels too big, that is too scary and seems 281 00:14:50,409 --> 00:14:53,519 undoable, and you wanna break it into smaller pieces. 282 00:14:54,049 --> 00:14:58,860 Just ask yourself,"What is the smallest next step that I can 283 00:14:58,860 --> 00:15:01,860 take that will achieve some momentum, that will bring me 284 00:15:01,860 --> 00:15:05,049 some forward progress?" And you just take that tiny little next 285 00:15:05,059 --> 00:15:05,529 step. 286 00:15:06,029 --> 00:15:08,090 Then you're, then you're there, and you say,"Okay, well what's 287 00:15:08,090 --> 00:15:11,090 the next small, tiny, little step that I can take to achieve 288 00:15:11,090 --> 00:15:13,440 a little momentum and make some forward progress?" And you take 289 00:15:13,450 --> 00:15:14,269 that next step. 290 00:15:14,730 --> 00:15:18,629 And by taking those tiny little steps, you're signaling to your 291 00:15:18,639 --> 00:15:22,879 brain that it's safe, and that it can continue to make progress 292 00:15:22,940 --> 00:15:23,909 and move forward. 293 00:15:24,409 --> 00:15:28,830 And I would encourage you in those moments where it feels 294 00:15:28,830 --> 00:15:31,460 like this is too much, it's moving too fast, it's all 295 00:15:31,460 --> 00:15:35,340 happening at once, I can't do it, to then you really want to 296 00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:39,759 be so intentional throughout your day when you wake up, and 297 00:15:39,850 --> 00:15:43,639 concretely at discrete points through the day to regulate your 298 00:15:43,639 --> 00:15:45,429 nervous system, to do your breathing. 299 00:15:45,429 --> 00:15:47,250 If you meditate, to do your meditation. 300 00:15:47,259 --> 00:15:50,860 If you do any somatic or movement practices, to do those 301 00:15:50,860 --> 00:15:56,600 movement practices so that your body is intentionally signaling, 302 00:15:56,659 --> 00:16:01,039 "I am safe in the midst of this transition. 303 00:16:01,370 --> 00:16:07,190 In the middle of the up level, I am safe." Yeah, it is powerful. 304 00:16:07,210 --> 00:16:08,440 It sounds so silly. 305 00:16:08,490 --> 00:16:08,840 I know. 306 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,899 It sounds woo woo. 307 00:16:09,919 --> 00:16:12,950 It sounds like,"Yeah, ha ha, Becky, that's not gonna do 308 00:16:12,950 --> 00:16:18,100 anything." I promise you, it makes such a difference. 309 00:16:18,129 --> 00:16:21,299 Just hit the I believe button and try it in your life, and 310 00:16:21,299 --> 00:16:22,198 then just DM me. 311 00:16:22,508 --> 00:16:25,269 I'm at,@womenleadwell on all social platforms, and you let me 312 00:16:25,269 --> 00:16:27,889 know because it is profoundly impactful. 313 00:16:28,188 --> 00:16:31,849 Let's say you are feeling out of sorts. 314 00:16:32,198 --> 00:16:34,739 It is feeling like too much. 315 00:16:35,239 --> 00:16:41,048 How do you really discern overwhelm or level up? 316 00:16:41,548 --> 00:16:44,458 I'm gonna give you a few questions to ask yourself. 317 00:16:44,808 --> 00:16:47,399 Not only feel how it feels in your body, right? 318 00:16:47,399 --> 00:16:50,568 Go through the symptoms and, and what we've talked about already, 319 00:16:50,899 --> 00:16:52,558 but let me give you a few questions that you can ask 320 00:16:52,558 --> 00:16:53,158 yourself. 321 00:16:53,769 --> 00:16:58,808 Ask yourself, is there excitement and anticipation 322 00:16:59,068 --> 00:17:00,519 underneath the stress? 323 00:17:01,019 --> 00:17:03,528 Cause leveling up, taking that, jumping off the cliff, taking 324 00:17:03,528 --> 00:17:05,969 that big leap, moving up, like that is stressful. 325 00:17:05,969 --> 00:17:08,759 It just is, and don't ever delude yourself to think that 326 00:17:08,759 --> 00:17:09,618 it's not gonna be. 327 00:17:10,108 --> 00:17:10,868 It is. 328 00:17:10,919 --> 00:17:12,888 Feels great on the other side, but when you're going through 329 00:17:12,888 --> 00:17:13,919 it, it is stressful. 330 00:17:14,358 --> 00:17:18,199 And so you ask yourself, is there excitement underneath the 331 00:17:18,199 --> 00:17:18,848 stress? 332 00:17:19,348 --> 00:17:22,159 If the answer is yes, then you're probably in the middle of 333 00:17:22,159 --> 00:17:22,959 leveling up. 334 00:17:23,618 --> 00:17:27,699 If the answer is no, I haven't felt joy in months, well, then 335 00:17:27,699 --> 00:17:28,838 you're probably overwhelmed. 336 00:17:29,739 --> 00:17:33,578 If what you are feeling is apathy, dread, then, then it 337 00:17:33,578 --> 00:17:34,259 could be overwhelm. 338 00:17:34,259 --> 00:17:38,063 It might be burnout Question number two: Am I avoiding the 339 00:17:38,063 --> 00:17:42,202 task, whatever task is in front of you, because I'm scared of 340 00:17:42,202 --> 00:17:47,613 failing, I'm scared that I can't do it, or am I avoiding the task 341 00:17:48,173 --> 00:17:50,732 because I literally cannot think straight? 342 00:17:51,232 --> 00:17:54,042 My husband,"Do you want Thai or Mexican?" I can't answer the 343 00:17:54,042 --> 00:17:54,603 question. 344 00:17:54,952 --> 00:17:55,972 That's overwhelm. 345 00:17:56,472 --> 00:18:00,863 and then a final question that you can ask yourself is, do I 346 00:18:00,863 --> 00:18:02,542 just need to shut off for a while? 347 00:18:02,883 --> 00:18:04,532 Like, do I need to take the hot bath? 348 00:18:04,843 --> 00:18:06,512 Do I need to just go to sleep? 349 00:18:06,803 --> 00:18:10,393 Do I need to ugly cry for 10 minutes to just get the yuck out 350 00:18:10,393 --> 00:18:11,103 of my body? 351 00:18:11,603 --> 00:18:14,053 Or do I need a better system? 352 00:18:14,353 --> 00:18:18,212 If it is the I need a hard reset, I need to turn this body 353 00:18:18,212 --> 00:18:21,313 off and turn it back on, and then maybe make some significant 354 00:18:21,313 --> 00:18:23,712 life choices to avoid the overwhelm going forward. 355 00:18:24,012 --> 00:18:25,113 Well, that is one thing. 356 00:18:25,613 --> 00:18:29,393 If I need a better system, the way that I am doing it now no 357 00:18:29,393 --> 00:18:32,853 longer serves me, well, that's probably an indication that you 358 00:18:32,853 --> 00:18:35,923 are ready to take your next step, right? 359 00:18:35,992 --> 00:18:39,762 That's an indication of, of being primed to move to the next 360 00:18:39,762 --> 00:18:42,413 level because the systems and the habits and the processes 361 00:18:42,413 --> 00:18:45,833 that have served you up to this point aren't necessarily the 362 00:18:45,833 --> 00:18:48,722 systems, habits, and processes that are gonna serve you as you 363 00:18:48,722 --> 00:18:50,593 continue to grow and advance. 364 00:18:51,093 --> 00:18:54,093 And so I hope this episode has been helpful for you. 365 00:18:54,093 --> 00:18:57,022 This isn't the typical kind of content that I provide here on 366 00:18:57,022 --> 00:19:00,272 the podcast, but I really was struck by the conversation 367 00:19:00,272 --> 00:19:02,083 because this woman is so accomplished. 368 00:19:02,083 --> 00:19:03,952 I mean, she's just lovely, the lady I was talking to. 369 00:19:04,532 --> 00:19:09,712 And, for her to identify as feeling overwhelmed and to 370 00:19:09,722 --> 00:19:14,452 recognize in herself that that feeling isn't overwhelm, I need 371 00:19:14,452 --> 00:19:17,742 to stop and burn it all down 'cause it ain't working, But 372 00:19:17,913 --> 00:19:23,383 that very similar feeling that comes when, when the car is 373 00:19:23,383 --> 00:19:26,502 speeding up and the RPMs are, are going faster and faster and 374 00:19:26,502 --> 00:19:28,772 you're getting ready to shift from third into fourth or fourth 375 00:19:28,772 --> 00:19:30,073 into fifth, and you just... 376 00:19:30,093 --> 00:19:32,623 And the, the car just takes off when you do it, it feels so 377 00:19:32,623 --> 00:19:36,823 cool, and, and it feels like a lot in the moment. 378 00:19:36,932 --> 00:19:39,942 But then on the other side, if you've never experienced this, 379 00:19:39,972 --> 00:19:43,292 on the other side, the car gets quiet again, and the ride gets 380 00:19:43,292 --> 00:19:45,962 smoother again because the engine is working more 381 00:19:45,962 --> 00:19:46,762 efficiently. 382 00:19:47,353 --> 00:19:51,383 And so it is that transition from one level to the next can 383 00:19:51,393 --> 00:19:57,732 feel like overwhelm, but it can be the very clear signal to keep 384 00:19:57,732 --> 00:20:02,653 going and keep speeding up, keep the momentum going, because on 385 00:20:02,653 --> 00:20:08,502 the other side of the friction of the moment is calm, more 386 00:20:08,502 --> 00:20:11,272 efficiency, and greater effectiveness. 387 00:20:11,772 --> 00:20:13,942 So here's what I would offer. 388 00:20:14,063 --> 00:20:16,843 If you are having a hard time discerning, you know that you 389 00:20:16,843 --> 00:20:19,833 are feeling out of sorts, and even after listening to this 390 00:20:19,843 --> 00:20:22,843 podcast you are still struggling with identifying, is this 391 00:20:22,853 --> 00:20:26,883 overwhelm or am I really ready to take the next step in my 392 00:20:26,883 --> 00:20:28,573 life, shoot me a note. 393 00:20:28,603 --> 00:20:32,343 Again, I'm at@womenleadwell on all platforms, and let's just 394 00:20:32,522 --> 00:20:33,522 jump on a call. 395 00:20:33,522 --> 00:20:37,002 I would love to offer you a complimentary 60-minute coaching 396 00:20:37,002 --> 00:20:40,282 call, and let's get into it in the specifics of your life so 397 00:20:40,282 --> 00:20:43,942 you can make the best-informed decisions about what is next for 398 00:20:43,942 --> 00:20:44,262 you. 399 00:20:44,762 --> 00:20:48,403 Now, I hope that you will join me next week when we are going 400 00:20:48,403 --> 00:20:50,692 to be doing our mid-year review. 401 00:20:50,752 --> 00:20:53,663 Can you believe that it is almost July? 402 00:20:53,673 --> 00:20:56,202 We are almost halfway through with 2026. 403 00:20:56,702 --> 00:20:59,012 It's freaking me out a little bit, but I love it. 404 00:20:59,173 --> 00:21:02,762 But either way, time is moving forward, and the end of the year 405 00:21:02,762 --> 00:21:05,163 is six months away, and there ain't nothing we can do about it 406 00:21:05,663 --> 00:21:09,512 except for revisiting those goals that I knew you set back 407 00:21:09,522 --> 00:21:14,653 in January, seeing where we are halfway through the year, and 408 00:21:14,653 --> 00:21:18,192 adjusting our plan to make sure that we have the best second 409 00:21:18,202 --> 00:21:20,282 half of the year possible. 410 00:21:20,583 --> 00:21:24,883 Now, if you enjoyed today's episode, I would love for you to 411 00:21:24,883 --> 00:21:26,053 share it with a friend. 412 00:21:26,113 --> 00:21:30,173 We need more women leading from alignment and not adrenaline. 413 00:21:30,673 --> 00:21:33,113 And if you haven't already, please make sure to like and 414 00:21:33,113 --> 00:21:36,163 subscribe so you don't miss next week's drop. 415 00:21:36,732 --> 00:21:39,653 And hey, if you're not on my newsletter, The Confidence Edit, 416 00:21:39,992 --> 00:21:41,002 what are you doing? 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