Hosted by Chris Schembra
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Chris Schembra is a dinner host, question asker, and facilitator. He's a columnist at Rolling Stone magazine, USA Today calls him their "Gratitude Guru" and he's spent the last nine years traveling around the world helping people connect in meaningful ways.
293 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2026-08-04 · ~51 min/episode
Rank
#786
Substance
57.8
/ 100
Breakdown
Scored 2026-08
Updated monthly
General rank
#82 of 105
Across the index
#786 of 1106
Substance
Top 71%
outscores 29% of the index
Gratitude Through Hard Times ranks #786 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 57.8 out of 100, scored across 5 recent episodes. It scores highest on guest caliber and conversational craft. Paul Mersino is genuinely credentialed: president/CEO of a 175-year-old law firm, admitted to U.S. Supreme Court bar, multiple 'best lawyer' recognitions, and managing real outcomes at scale. He is a practicing operator, not a consultant or career podcaster. However, the episode fails to leverage his specific expertise in litigation, first-amendment law, or managing professional services firms; it stays in generic leadership philosophy territory.
Averaged across 5 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.
The episode offers some genuine practical wisdom - particularly around continuous improvement (1% gains), radical candor, work-life harmony vs. balance, and ethical negotiation - but much of it recycles well-known frameworks (Atomic Habits, Marcus Aurelius, Bezos's work-life harmony concept). The host adds significant commentary that dilutes rather than deepens the guest's contributions, and long stretches involve generic platitudes about kindness, gratitude, and 'slowing down' without concrete operational insight.
“if you could do everything just 1% better and then think of all the things you do throughout the day and then you aggregate up all of those little marginal gains”
“work life balance isn't a thing...work life harmony...I love work I love going to the office...that makes me a better father, husband, friend”
The guest relies heavily on published frameworks and authors (James Clear, Kim Scott, Ryan Holiday, Marcus Aurelius, Bezos). While his application to legal practice and firm leadership is competent, the core ideas - radical candor, continuous improvement, stoicism - are well-circulated. The host actively reinforces this by name-dropping five business books. Limited first-principles thinking or contrarian argument.
“I always joke that nothing I say is original. I just like stealing from smart people”
“another variation we have...is the aggregation of marginal gains”
Paul Mersino is genuinely credentialed: president/CEO of a 175-year-old law firm, admitted to U.S. Supreme Court bar, multiple 'best lawyer' recognitions, and managing real outcomes at scale. He is a practicing operator, not a consultant or career podcaster. However, the episode fails to leverage his specific expertise in litigation, first-amendment law, or managing professional services firms; it stays in generic leadership philosophy territory.
“Paul is the president and CEO of Butesil. Beutzel is literally coming up on their 175th anniversary. Founded as a commercial litigation practice in 1854”
“admitted to the U.S. supreme Court Bar”
The episode is surprisingly light on data, metrics, or concrete examples from Mersino's actual work. References to 'nine offices,' mentoring initiatives, and a history book project are mentioned but not detailed. The host injects a few statistics (86% of employees, 28% using AI for collaboration) but they are tangential. No client outcomes, financial metrics, operational changes, or specific case studies illustrating the principles discussed.
“we're actually working now on a history project. We're hoping to write and produce a 175th anniversary book”
“Every Tuesday morning, 9:00am everyone, um, in the firm gets a text message”
The host asks softball opening questions ('who haven't you thanked enough') and rarely challenges the guest. Most host turns are lengthy monologues that reframe or amplify rather than probe. A few genuine follow-ups exist ('What do you think it was...made you open to her believing'), but they're drowned out by the host's 40% of total speaking time. No pushback on vagueness, no tough questions about tradeoffs or failures, and the guest is left uninterrogated on contradictions (e.g., 'nine offices' and 'remote work' coexist without explanation).
“Paul, if you could give credit or thanks to one person in your life that you don't give Enough credit or thanks to”
“What kind of checks and balances do you put in to make sure that we're rowing in the right direction?”
2026-08-04
2026-07-08
2026-06-25
3 periods tracked.
5 scored on substance · 66 tracked in total.
Human Leadership with Paul Mersino
2026-08-04 · 42 min
Cris Burnam: Curiosity Maxing
2026-07-08 · 49 min
Chris Caldwell: The Inconvenient Path of Gratitude
2026-06-25 · 52 min
Sandra Lopez: Delulu Soul Searching
2026-06-25 · 43 min
Abigail Beach: Angel Numbers
2026-05-28 · 43 min
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