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Few companies make it from pilot to production in the defense market. Those who do often change the industry in the process. How do they do it? What lessons can startups take from their trials, successes, and failures?
88 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-07-01 · ~41 min/episode
Rank
#427
Substance
77.0
/ 100
Breakdown
Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly
General rank
#27 of 267
Across the index
#427 of 6183
Substance
Top 7%
outscores 93% of the index
Crossing the Valley ranks #427 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 77.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and conversational craft. Both guests are genuine practitioners - Craig founded and sold a private military company and runs an active early-stage fund, and Duong is a sitting CEO of a defense AI startup actively transitioning tech into government - highly relevant to the topic, even if the transcript trades on their stories more than hard specifics.
Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.
Buried among extensive biography and self-praise are a few genuinely useful operator ideas - the 'triad' of government selling, funnel conversion math, and the economics-of-war thesis - but a large share of runtime is origin-story narrative and leadership platitudes.
“The war fighter that owns the use the problem statement, the program office that represents that war fighter, and then Capital Hill that funds the program office”
“the economics of war... a thousand dollar robot can destroy a $100 million asset”
The 'triad' navigation model and the reframing of warfare economics offer some fresh angle for defense-tech operators, but the leadership content leans heavily on recycled material (Simon Sinek's 'leaders eat last') and standard VC 'bet on the founder' tropes.
“who can navigate the three vertices correctly”
“The Marine Corps, we say the leaders eat last”
Both guests are genuine practitioners - Craig founded and sold a private military company and runs an active early-stage fund, and Duong is a sitting CEO of a defense AI startup actively transitioning tech into government - highly relevant to the topic, even if the transcript trades on their stories more than hard specifics.
“the founder and general partner of Outlander VC”
“I built a private military in 2003 to do the second Iraq war”
There are a handful of concrete figures (funnel numbers, ~10-12 investments, building unpaid for a year) but the founder repeatedly and deliberately withholds the substantive details of customers, contracts, and product, leaving much of the government-transition story vague.
“We've got 10,000 plus people top of funnel every year”
“we built probably an onus for about a year... for free”
The host pushes usefully on several occasions - probing whether Craig was expelled, and repeatedly drilling into the mechanics of the first government touchpoint - but also lets a lot of self-congratulation and mission grandstanding pass unchallenged.
“Were you thrown out or you left?”
“when they say, great, this is cool, what do they do next?”
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