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Between You and AI | Leadership, Human Skills & the Future of Work

Hosted by Andrea Iorio

Artificial intelligence is changing the rules of work, leadership, and creativity. But the real question isn’t what AI does better than humans — it’s what humans must become better at because of it.

11 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-06-23

Rank

#44

Substance

49.3

/ 100

Why it scores where it does

Between You and AI | Leadership, Human Skills & the Future of Work ranks #44 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 49.3 out of 100, scored across 3 recent episodes. It scores highest on specificity & evidence and insight density. Strong use of named companies, real figures, and concrete examples - Meta's Clodonomics leaderboard, Amazon's Hero Rank, Microsoft canceling Claude Code, Salesforce's $300M Anthropic bill, and the 17,000x token growth stat - though some are cited secondhand.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 3 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

12.0 / 20

The episode delivers a few genuinely non-obvious ideas - applying Jevons paradox to AI tokens, the failure of token-tracking as a productivity proxy, and reframing augmentation as doing less - but pads them with extended Seneca/Newport throat-clearing that dilutes the density.

“Every efficiency gain triggers a demand explosion, never a leisure dividend.”

“token maxing is what augmentation looks like when you forget the second half of the sentence”

Originality

12.0 / 20

The 'tokenmaxxing' framing and the Jevons-paradox-for-cognition analogy are a reasonably fresh synthesis, though the underlying ideas (Jevons paradox, deep vs shallow work) are recycled and widely circulated rather than first-principles new.

“If in 1865 the resource was coal, well, in 2026, the resource is cognition”

“this is the first time he can remember that technology costs the same as people”

Guest Caliber

8.3 / 20

This is a solo monologue with no guest; the host has genuine operating credentials (head of Tinder LatAm, CDO L'Oréal Brazil) but the episode leans on secondhand quotes from executives rather than a substantive practitioner interview.

“I spent 5 years as head of Tinder in Latin America. I was a chief digital officer at L'Oréal Brazil”

“the president and COO of Uber, Andrew MacDonald, sat down for an interview”

Specificity & Evidence

13.0 / 20

Strong use of named companies, real figures, and concrete examples - Meta's Clodonomics leaderboard, Amazon's Hero Rank, Microsoft canceling Claude Code, Salesforce's $300M Anthropic bill, and the 17,000x token growth stat - though some are cited secondhand.

“At Meta, an employee built an internal leaderboard, nicknamed "Clodonomics," ranking the company's 85,000 employees”

“Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff said his company's Anthropic bill alone will run about $300 million”

Conversational Craft

4.0 / 20

This is a scripted solo monologue with no guest, no questions, no follow-ups, and no challenge or disagreement - the format inherently precludes conversational craft.

“Hold on to that because we're going to get back to it.”

“So here's the message I want to leave you with.”

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Episodes

3 scored on substance · 11 tracked in total.

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