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WTF is Business Casual

Hosted by Rise Human Resources

Buckle up for real HR stories that'll make you laugh, cringe, and thank your lucky stars you're not that guy. WTF is Business Casual is the HR podcast where two seasoned consultants - Sarah Bursten and Jenny Lavey , co-founders of RiseHR - dish on wild workplace fails, toxic bosses, employee drama, and leadership gone…

31 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2026-07-01 · ~49 min/episode

Rank

#4410

Substance

53.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

HR rank

#267 of 381

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Across the index

#4410 of 6183

Substance

Top 71%

outscores 29% of the index

Why it scores where it does

WTF is Business Casual ranks #4410 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 53.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on specificity & evidence and insight density. The cited HBR research provides several concrete figures (70 million transitions, 2005 - 2019, 12-point job-growth figure, tripling of collaboration-language in postings, technical-skill half-life timeline), which are the episode's strongest moments. However, the illustrative stories name no companies, revenue figures, or measurable outcomes, and the one named company (Airbnb) is used as a customer-service gripe rather than evidence.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

12.0 / 20

The episode surfaces a handful of genuine data points from an HBR article (half-life of technical skills, job-posting trends, 70-million-transition study) but drowns them in extended personal anecdotes about internships, a coffee shop visit, an Airbnb dispute, and a Wendy's drive-through. The ratio of actionable insight to filler is unfavorable for a 44-minute runtime.

“the half life of technical skills was about 10 years. So meaning if you learned it, you were probably pretty solid for 10 years...today it's down to four years and it's projected to drop below two years”

“Social skills showed up as the number one predictor of top performance. Not just being nice, we're talking aligning goals across teams, sharing knowledge, reducing friction, coaching others”

Originality

9.0 / 20

The central thesis - that 'soft skills' are mislabelled and actually the most important skills - is decades-old conventional wisdom in HR circles, restated without a novel angle. Rebranding them 'human skills' is cosmetic, and the AI-displacement concern is the most circulated take of 2023 - 2024; nothing here challenges or inverts received wisdom.

“we just thought it was interesting and thought it would be a good conversation”

“people are definitely scared because it is taking over a lot of those technical pieces”

Guest Caliber

9.0 / 20

There are no external guests; the episode is a two-host conversation between HR consultants who run a small-business consulting practice. While they have practitioner credibility, neither host has demonstrated experience scaling HR or people operations at significant organisational size, limiting the depth of their practitioner authority.

“As HR consultants, we've seen the best, the worst, and absolute train wrecks of office life”

“we are doing some stuff in preparing people entering the workforce into like helping them be successful in the workforce from day one”

Specificity & Evidence

13.0 / 20

The cited HBR research provides several concrete figures (70 million transitions, 2005 - 2019, 12-point job-growth figure, tripling of collaboration-language in postings, technical-skill half-life timeline), which are the episode's strongest moments. However, the illustrative stories name no companies, revenue figures, or measurable outcomes, and the one named company (Airbnb) is used as a customer-service gripe rather than evidence.

“researchers analyzed 70 million job transitions across a thousand plus occupations from 2005 to 2019”

“Jobs requiring high social interaction grew 12 points from, uh, 1980 to 2012. And wages followed”

Conversational Craft

10.0 / 20

The two-host format produces near-constant agreement with no productive tension, challenge, or adversarial follow-up. Extended tangents (internship panic, Wendy's AI, Airbnb dispute) are left to run without editorial redirection, and the closest thing to a sharp question is a rhetorical 'what are organizations doing about this?' that is never genuinely answered.

“I know you've had a crazy couple of days, so. Yeah. Kids are home and how's stuff going sideways”

“I don't know if there's anything else you want to cover, but, uh, yeah, I think that we have probably beat this to death”

Standout episodes

  • "Soft Skills" is a Terrible Name for the Most Important Skills You Have

    2026-07-01

    53

Rank over time

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Episodes

1 scored on substance · 31 tracked in total.

  • "Soft Skills" is a Terrible Name for the Most Important Skills You Have

    2026-07-01 · 44 min

    53 / 100

Frequently asked

What is WTF is Business Casual's substance score?
WTF is Business Casual scores 53.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #4410 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 29% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #267 of 381 in HR. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is WTF is Business Casual worth listening to?
WTF is Business Casual is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 53.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts WTF is Business Casual?
WTF is Business Casual is hosted by Rise Human Resources.
How often does WTF is Business Casual publish?
WTF is Business Casual publishes fortnightly, has 31 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-07-01.
Which WTF is Business Casual episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is ""Soft Skills" is a Terrible Name for the Most Important Skills You Have" (53/100) - a good place to start.

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Harvard Business ReviewRise HRHR CollectiveThe CollectiveGallup

Guests who've appeared

Sarah Burstyn

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Leadership developmentInternship programsHarvard Business Review research on job transitionsAI implications for technical expertisePerformance review measurementGen Z workforce developmentGallup communication trainingTechnical skill half-life

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