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WTF is Business Casual

Hosted by Rise Human Resources

Listed under Business › Management, Business › Careers, Business › Entrepreneurship

★5.0on Apple Podcasts · 5 recent reviews

Buckle up for real HR stories that'll make you laugh, cringe, and thank your lucky stars you're not that guy. WTF is Business Casual is the HR podcast where two seasoned consultants - Sarah Bursten and Jenny Lavey , co-founders of RiseHR - dish on wild workplace fails, toxic bosses, employee drama, and leadership gone…

33 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2026-08-05 · ~47 min/episode

Rank

#1090

Substance

61.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-08
Updated monthly

HR rank

#84 of 139

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Across the index

#1090 of 1627

Substance

Top 67%

outscores 33% of the index

Why it scores where it does

WTF is Business Casual ranks #1090 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 61.0 out of 100, scored across 2 recent episodes. It scores highest on insight density and specificity & evidence. The episode contains practical observations about workplace dysfunction (communication overload, toxic culture exits, compensation inequity) with some substantive reasoning, but much of the discussion devolves into anecdotal tangents and personal stories (kitchen renovation, hunger, traffic) that dilute insight density. The hosts do offer actionable guidance on documentation and pay transparency, but these insights are interspersed with considerable padding.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 2 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

13.5 / 20

The episode contains practical observations about workplace dysfunction (communication overload, toxic culture exits, compensation inequity) with some substantive reasoning, but much of the discussion devolves into anecdotal tangents and personal stories (kitchen renovation, hunger, traffic) that dilute insight density. The hosts do offer actionable guidance on documentation and pay transparency, but these insights are interspersed with considerable padding.

“Why have we normalized in the corporate workplace that it is just totally fine that we communicate in 20 different channels?”

“If you're in burnout phase, if you think you're going to remember all that shit, you're not. And it's going to push you further into burnout.”

Originality

11.5 / 20

The hosts largely validate and comment on social media takes rather than generating original frameworks. Their insights - workplace communication fragmentation, avoiding toxic cultures, pay transparency importance - are well-established HR concerns. The most original element is their nuanced pushback on employee documentation via text (preferring conversation-first, then written follow-up), but this is relatively incremental. Most discussion follows predictable HR orthodoxy.

“I love it as an outsider, as a person who would have to do it. I think it would make me cringe if I had to walk up to you...and be like, hey, Jenny, tell me what you make so that I can go ask for their raise.”

“if everybody's pay was dropped on the floor, yeah, you need to be able to explain it”

Guest Caliber

11.0 / 20

This is a two-host solo episode without external guests - only reactive commentary on viral social media videos and podcasts. The hosts are HR consultants with real experience, lending credibility, but there is no primary-source expert guest testimony or practitioner at scale to validate claims. The episode relies entirely on the hosts' secondhand interpretation of TikTok/Instagram clips and anecdote.

“As HR consultants, we've seen the best, the worst and absolute train wrecks of office life.”

“I will say I don't think it does change. And my fear would be that I would change and I wouldn't want that. Right.”

Specificity & Evidence

13.0 / 20

The episode lacks concrete numbers, named companies (except passing mention of Buzzfeed and a 5,000-person company reference), timelines, or detailed case studies. The hosts reference social media videos generically without citing titles or creators. Salary discussions remain abstract ($18,000, $20,000 differentials) without context about role, location, or industry. Most claims rest on 'we've seen this happen' rather than documented examples.

“they were making $18,000 more than the person that's been there”

“it was like a 5,000 person company at the time”

Conversational Craft

12.0 / 20

Host interaction is warm and rapport-driven but often meandering and unfocused. Questions to each other are frequently soft and exploratory rather than challenging ('what did you think?'). The hosts seldom push back sharply on each other's claims; disagreements are polite and quickly resolved. Extended personal anecdotes (kitchen renovation, commute traffic, hungry hangry) suggest insufficient editorial discipline. Limited Socratic follow-up or substantive debate.

“I agree with that. I think that's great, great advice.”

“You know, that makes me think of the situation that you had, though, where somebody came to you who had access in a roundabout way”

Standout episodes

  • We React to Viral (& worst) Workplace Videos - Part 1

    2026-08-05

    69
  • "Soft Skills" is a Terrible Name for the Most Important Skills You Have

    2026-07-01

    53

Rank over time

2 periods tracked.

Episodes

2 scored on substance · 33 tracked in total.

  • We React to Viral (& worst) Workplace Videos - Part 1

    2026-08-05 · 45 min

    69 / 100
  • "Soft Skills" is a Terrible Name for the Most Important Skills You Have

    2026-07-01 · 44 min

    53 / 100

What listeners say on Apple Podcasts

★★★★★
Great topics, funny stories. It’s a win win!
We have all had some crazy work stories, and these 2 are starting off with some great ones. Can’t wait for the next episode.

- Laveydaze

★★★★★
Pat from SNL
Off to a great start. These are stories we all secretly wanted to hear from our HR. Jenny and Sarah both have great energy while mixing the serious HR topics with a lot of funny stories. Work activities near water is just hard pass.

- Anon4:

Frequently asked

What is WTF is Business Casual's substance score?
WTF is Business Casual scores 61.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #1090 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 33% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #84 of 139 in HR. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is WTF is Business Casual worth listening to?
WTF is Business Casual is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 61.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts WTF is Business Casual?
WTF is Business Casual is hosted by Rise Human Resources.
How often does WTF is Business Casual publish?
WTF is Business Casual publishes fortnightly, has 33 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-08-05.
Which WTF is Business Casual episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "We React to Viral (& worst) Workplace Videos - Part 1" (69/100) - a good place to start.

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