Hosted by Chad Sanderson and Lori Kirkland
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Wired for Wonder Podcast
52 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-07-30 · ~32 min/episode
Rank
#472
Substance
65.8
/ 100
Breakdown
Scored 2026-08
Updated monthly
Across the index
#472 of 1053
Substance
Top 45%
outscores 55% of the index
Wired for Wonder ranks #472 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 65.8 out of 100, scored across 5 recent episodes. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Emily Schmitz is a legitimate operator: CHRO of a 2,500-person company, background in P&L accountability and operational leadership rather than pure HR, managing a regulated environment with complex compliance constraints. She's hands-on (building AI agents herself, analyzing turnover data) and has material stakes in execution. However, she's not a founder/CEO or public company exec, and her company's AI deployment appears early-stage, limiting the depth of her vantage point on scaled outcomes.
Averaged across 5 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.
The episode contains several substantive ideas about AI adoption strategy - particularly the 'yes and' framing versus 'yes but', the distinction between mandated vs. voluntary training for 1099 vs. W2 workers, and the concrete example of reducing reconciliation from 8 hours to 5 minutes. However, much of the conversation circles back to general principles (fear management, quality focus, critical thinking) that are familiar to experienced operators. The guest repeats similar points across multiple questions rather than drilling deeper into novel tactical territory.
“how can we rebuild it from the beginning and incorporate AI in our daily functions”
“it's more of a yes and conversation, whereas I think 5 years ago it was yes, but”
While the 'yes and' reframing is useful, most of the underlying advice is conventional: address employee fears head-on, maintain quality standards, provide training, use AI for tedious tasks so humans focus on high-value work. The guest doesn't challenge common assumptions or offer contrarian takes; instead she validates widely-held best practices. The claim about rebuilding versus adapting is presented as novel but amounts to re-prioritizing processes with AI in mind - a fairly standard framing in current AI adoption discourse.
“We're not doing this to replace you. We're trying to make, you know, make things more efficient”
“we can take out those tedious things so that you can actually focus on the things that maybe got you interested in claims in the beginning”
Emily Schmitz is a legitimate operator: CHRO of a 2,500-person company, background in P&L accountability and operational leadership rather than pure HR, managing a regulated environment with complex compliance constraints. She's hands-on (building AI agents herself, analyzing turnover data) and has material stakes in execution. However, she's not a founder/CEO or public company exec, and her company's AI deployment appears early-stage, limiting the depth of her vantage point on scaled outcomes.
“Chief Human Resources Officer, Rise Claims Solutions, an insurance claims company navigating rapid national expansion”
“I've built an agent where it still maintains the security and the compliance for all of these things”
The episode includes concrete examples (8-hour reconciliation task reduced to 5 minutes; Notebook LM used for training creation; 2,500-person workforce across 36 states; 1099 vs. W2 compliance distinctions). However, these specifics are relatively sparse and mostly anecdotal. The guest avoids naming clients, specific metrics on adoption rates, or quantified business impact. Claims about AI improving quality and productivity lack supporting data or timelines. The regulatory constraints are mentioned but never detailed with actual examples of what's restricted.
“eight hours of time, time to do. It's a very long process... gets the same task done in about five minutes”
“we do have ah, LMS system. Our team is really great. And actually they're using Notebook LM to help create some of these trainings”
The host asks reasonable opening questions and sets up good framing (the paradox of wanting to use AI in a regulated environment, fear management). However, follow-ups are often soft and affirming rather than probing. When the guest mentions rebuilding processes, the host validates rather than asks for specifics (which processes? what's the timeline? what failed?). The host rarely pushes back on vague claims or asks for evidence. The conversation feels more like a guided tour through the guest's thinking than a rigorous interrogation of her approach.
“So what was that conversation like?”
“tell me how that shows up for you in the workplace”
3 periods tracked.
5 scored on substance · 52 tracked in total.
S04E18 Building Communities for AI Learning | Melissa M. Reeve | Wired for Wonder
2026-07-30 · 34 min
S02E14 It's a Yes & conversation .. guiding your teams to use AI | Emilie Schmitz | Wired for Wonder
2026-07-02 · 32 min
S02E12 Empowering Human Centric Leadership | Veronica Wong | Wired for Wonder
2026-06-18 · 30 min
S02E11 Embracing Change in the Workplace | Hallie Condon | Wired for Wonder
2026-06-11 · 34 min
S02E10 Psychological Safety with AI | Lisa Hull | Wired for Wonder
2026-06-04 · 31 min
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