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Wired for Wonder

Hosted by Chad Sanderson and Lori Kirkland

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Wired for Wonder Podcast

52 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-07-30 · ~32 min/episode

Rank

#472

Substance

65.8

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-08
Updated monthly

HR rank

#38 of 103

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Across the index

#472 of 1053

Substance

Top 45%

outscores 55% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Wired for Wonder ranks #472 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 65.8 out of 100, scored across 5 recent episodes. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Emily Schmitz is a legitimate operator: CHRO of a 2,500-person company, background in P&L accountability and operational leadership rather than pure HR, managing a regulated environment with complex compliance constraints. She's hands-on (building AI agents herself, analyzing turnover data) and has material stakes in execution. However, she's not a founder/CEO or public company exec, and her company's AI deployment appears early-stage, limiting the depth of her vantage point on scaled outcomes.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 5 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

13.4 / 20

The episode contains several substantive ideas about AI adoption strategy - particularly the 'yes and' framing versus 'yes but', the distinction between mandated vs. voluntary training for 1099 vs. W2 workers, and the concrete example of reducing reconciliation from 8 hours to 5 minutes. However, much of the conversation circles back to general principles (fear management, quality focus, critical thinking) that are familiar to experienced operators. The guest repeats similar points across multiple questions rather than drilling deeper into novel tactical territory.

“how can we rebuild it from the beginning and incorporate AI in our daily functions”

“it's more of a yes and conversation, whereas I think 5 years ago it was yes, but”

Originality

12.2 / 20

While the 'yes and' reframing is useful, most of the underlying advice is conventional: address employee fears head-on, maintain quality standards, provide training, use AI for tedious tasks so humans focus on high-value work. The guest doesn't challenge common assumptions or offer contrarian takes; instead she validates widely-held best practices. The claim about rebuilding versus adapting is presented as novel but amounts to re-prioritizing processes with AI in mind - a fairly standard framing in current AI adoption discourse.

“We're not doing this to replace you. We're trying to make, you know, make things more efficient”

“we can take out those tedious things so that you can actually focus on the things that maybe got you interested in claims in the beginning”

Guest Caliber

15.6 / 20

Emily Schmitz is a legitimate operator: CHRO of a 2,500-person company, background in P&L accountability and operational leadership rather than pure HR, managing a regulated environment with complex compliance constraints. She's hands-on (building AI agents herself, analyzing turnover data) and has material stakes in execution. However, she's not a founder/CEO or public company exec, and her company's AI deployment appears early-stage, limiting the depth of her vantage point on scaled outcomes.

“Chief Human Resources Officer, Rise Claims Solutions, an insurance claims company navigating rapid national expansion”

“I've built an agent where it still maintains the security and the compliance for all of these things”

Specificity & Evidence

13.4 / 20

The episode includes concrete examples (8-hour reconciliation task reduced to 5 minutes; Notebook LM used for training creation; 2,500-person workforce across 36 states; 1099 vs. W2 compliance distinctions). However, these specifics are relatively sparse and mostly anecdotal. The guest avoids naming clients, specific metrics on adoption rates, or quantified business impact. Claims about AI improving quality and productivity lack supporting data or timelines. The regulatory constraints are mentioned but never detailed with actual examples of what's restricted.

“eight hours of time, time to do. It's a very long process... gets the same task done in about five minutes”

“we do have ah, LMS system. Our team is really great. And actually they're using Notebook LM to help create some of these trainings”

Conversational Craft

11.2 / 20

The host asks reasonable opening questions and sets up good framing (the paradox of wanting to use AI in a regulated environment, fear management). However, follow-ups are often soft and affirming rather than probing. When the guest mentions rebuilding processes, the host validates rather than asks for specifics (which processes? what's the timeline? what failed?). The host rarely pushes back on vague claims or asks for evidence. The conversation feels more like a guided tour through the guest's thinking than a rigorous interrogation of her approach.

“So what was that conversation like?”

“tell me how that shows up for you in the workplace”

Standout episodes

  • S02E14 It's a Yes & conversation .. guiding your teams to use AI | Emilie Schmitz | Wired for Wonder

    2026-07-02

    80
  • S02E11 Embracing Change in the Workplace | Hallie Condon | Wired for Wonder

    2026-06-11

    71
  • S04E18 Building Communities for AI Learning | Melissa M. Reeve | Wired for Wonder

    2026-07-30

    68

Rank over time

3 periods tracked.

Episodes

5 scored on substance · 52 tracked in total.

  • S04E18 Building Communities for AI Learning | Melissa M. Reeve | Wired for Wonder

    2026-07-30 · 34 min

    68 / 100
  • S02E14 It's a Yes & conversation .. guiding your teams to use AI | Emilie Schmitz | Wired for Wonder

    2026-07-02 · 32 min

    80 / 100
  • S02E12 Empowering Human Centric Leadership | Veronica Wong | Wired for Wonder

    2026-06-18 · 30 min

    56 / 100
  • S02E11 Embracing Change in the Workplace | Hallie Condon | Wired for Wonder

    2026-06-11 · 34 min

    71 / 100
  • S02E10 Psychological Safety with AI | Lisa Hull | Wired for Wonder

    2026-06-04 · 31 min

    54 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Wired for Wonder's substance score?
Wired for Wonder scores 65.8 out of 100 for substance and ranks #472 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 55% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #38 of 103 in HR. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Wired for Wonder worth listening to?
Yes - Wired for Wonder outscores 55% of the B2B hr podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a hr operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts Wired for Wonder?
Wired for Wonder is hosted by Chad Sanderson and Lori Kirkland.
How often does Wired for Wonder publish?
Wired for Wonder publishes weekly, has 52 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-07-30.
Which Wired for Wonder episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "S02E14 It's a Yes & conversation .. guiding your teams to use AI | Emilie Schmitz | Wired for Wonder" (80/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

Claude · 3Mint Mobile · 3KindredKachavaGoogleMetaChili PiperSuperhuman GOGrammarlyN8NAI Daily BriefBreakthrough Tech at CornellWorksoftChatGPTGeminiCopilot

Guests who've appeared

Melissa M. ReeveEmilie SchmitzVeronica WongHallie CondonLisa Hull

Topics this show covers

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Future of Work · 7Change management · 3creativity · 3human skills · 3Claude · 2Self-leadership · 2learning · 2workplace culture · 2Learning organizationsHyper-Adaptive SolutionsAI North StarClayton Christensen (disruption theory)AI sense makingRewiring to become an AI nativeJohn Kotter change managementPeter Senge learning principlesPricewaterhouseCoopers prompting partiesModerna AI drug development

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