The 8 Key Functional Indicators

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Michelle, and I'm Katherine. [SPEAKER_00]: And we're here at the Healthy Hurray Human Podcast, where we talk about keeping pace in a world that never slows down. [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to the Healthy Hurray Human Podcast. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Katherine, I'm Michelle, and we are going to deliver our eight KFIs, spokes on the wheel, deeper dive, part two of this, [SPEAKER_00]: series actually is probably the third time we've done yeah we've talked about them but for the second season it's part two [SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to go a little bit more in depth, kind of do another approach than if you listened to our podcast last week.

[SPEAKER_00]: We were discussing the importance of the wheel, how we anticipated being used, how it's used in our lives. [SPEAKER_00]: What we really want people to understand is that these eight KFIs, the spokes on the wheel, they're not abstract ideas. [SPEAKER_00]: These are like daily practices. [SPEAKER_00]: And it daily practices for yourself personally that will make your show up as a better human.

[SPEAKER_00]: More effective and more effective. [SPEAKER_00]: And you're showing up healthier and the concept that we have is healthy people make a healthy culture. [SPEAKER_00]: And we want everyone to thrive in their lives. [SPEAKER_00]: It's really what we want to do.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of the things that Michelle and I, when I came on board two years ago, so it's still celebrating this whole month, we're going to celebrate my, okay, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I can get behind that as a seven. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, because we're getting, we're not back to any of Graham seven that we're getting close to the anniversary date of me, for literally coming on board. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like LinkedIn kind of fast track them.

[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, sorry, I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we were cut that out. [SPEAKER_00]: But, brain-fog, ha-ha. [SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, this, [SPEAKER_00]: To me is such a great way that Michelle and I connected is both of us got into HR because we really like people, and we want to see people thrive, and we want to see people find their path in life, their joy, their just that what they do that they come a lot of, that brings them alive, that is what they were created for, that makes that is their space, [SPEAKER_00]: in the room that needs to have them, and with Michelle's understanding of mental health and challenges and identifying these eight areas that after thousands of hours of therapy and counseling and consulting, she, it, everything could go down to these eight specific areas.

[SPEAKER_00]: So today we're going to do a little bit of a deep dive. [SPEAKER_00]: and to each one more specifically by giving some like two to three minute recaps of each of the spokes on the wheel. [SPEAKER_01]: So buckle up because we're gonna, we're, we're taking a dive. [SPEAKER_01]: Hold your nose.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I was thinking of jumping off the wall. [SPEAKER_01]: I know, I know. [SPEAKER_01]: Some of us, of course.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right, bubbles up. [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody, bubbles up. [SPEAKER_01]: That's a diving term, isn't it? [SPEAKER_01]: bubbles up.

[SPEAKER_00]: You just got to know which way is up. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to start with the top of the wheel. [SPEAKER_01]: In most of our visuals of it, the top of the wheel, the top spoke is being emotionally grounded.

[SPEAKER_01]: And this is where we understand where we are emotionally. [SPEAKER_01]: And we aren't having reactions to the things around us. [SPEAKER_01]: We are having response. [SPEAKER_01]: And we understand the difference.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, being emotionally grounded, if, I think we all know what that's like when we're not emotionally grounded because when things are coming at us like standing in like a batting cage and the ball just keeps coming at you. [SPEAKER_01]: There can be panic, and then when there's panic or there's caught off guard, we react, and oftentimes we don't like our reaction, because it's either strong or it's understated, or it may be at times inappropriate, you know, we reaction isn't planned, it's not thought out, it doesn't have any [SPEAKER_01]: is exactly that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas when we respond, we have been able to take a breath. [SPEAKER_01]: We've been able to stand back. [SPEAKER_01]: We're able to look at the whole picture. [SPEAKER_01]: We're able to not panic.

[SPEAKER_01]: We understand that things are going to come at us. [SPEAKER_01]: So when we are emotionally grounded, and there's so many things that are, we can, you know, we're trying to do this at two or three minutes per per spoke on the wheel. [SPEAKER_01]: There are so many things that plan to are emotionally grounded. [SPEAKER_01]: You can go to, are we doing the basics in life like getting sleep in nutrition and exercise and sunshine and hydration?

[SPEAKER_01]: That's daily self-parrating and other KFI. [SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to get to that. [SPEAKER_01]: But the emotionally grounded is, are we taking time for ourselves? [SPEAKER_01]: Are we assessing ourselves on a daily basis of how am I doing?

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I, for women in this midlife stage, it's assessing, you know, are my hormones doing okay? [SPEAKER_01]: Do I feel balanced physically on what's happening with, within my body? [SPEAKER_01]: Because if that's not happening, I'm going to have a harder time being emotionally grounded and from into, in a hormone, I'm going to get a lot of conversation about that. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just a woman right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Can I ask one question though about this? [SPEAKER_00]: We talked in the last episode in previous episodes about the mirrors that we are for each other. [SPEAKER_00]: Is it fair to say that when you're in a reactive state, you'll see people give you the, uh, kind of response, or you'll see people shut down, or people will come at you more aggressively, because sometimes you're [SPEAKER_00]: for myself, as you were talking, I was thinking about this for myself. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll think, why is that person coming at me with that energy or why are they responding to what I'm saying?

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the trigger or the clue for me to say, wait a second, am I being reactive? [SPEAKER_01]: I think you are, you are definitely, kind of, that's, I had a problem. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying not to keep saying 100. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, that is exactly it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just don't say six, seven. [SPEAKER_00]: That's all. [SPEAKER_00]: Just, oh, my word. [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

[SPEAKER_01]: But you... [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I think that is a good clue. [SPEAKER_01]: If you're paying attention, when you are sensing that other people are mirroring back to you, what you aren't expecting, or what you are thinking you're not giving off, and they're giving you something back, that's a very good clue that I think I might be the one that's off here, what's going on. [SPEAKER_01]: This is the connection and trust, and it drives our emotional energy, it drives our productivity.

[SPEAKER_01]: When we are disconnected relationally, and I mean all of our relationships, so I don't want people to go immediately to partnership, you know, your spouse, your partner, you know, [SPEAKER_01]: That is for, that's huge. [SPEAKER_01]: Relationally thriving is huge when it comes to your partners in life, but it's your business. [SPEAKER_01]: People, your co-workers, your friends, your parents, your nieces, your stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: Every relation that you have gives you or draws energy from you.

[SPEAKER_01]: And we have to be paying attention to that. [SPEAKER_01]: Are you writing that down? [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: What did I just say?

[SPEAKER_00]: Give to your draws for me. [SPEAKER_01]: Every relationship you have, it does. [SPEAKER_01]: And so, relationally thriving doesn't just mean like, yes, I have a great marriage and I'm so in love. [SPEAKER_01]: you know, it can be your teenage angst that you're living with.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do you feel like you were thriving? [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't mean that that teenager's great and they're never angsty. [SPEAKER_01]: But do you feel like you have a plan? [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know how you were interacting?

[SPEAKER_01]: Do you feel like you're at a loss in [SPEAKER_01]: interacting with your tween or your adolescent teen, do you feel like you're at a loss or that you're constantly having to pull from something or from a well that's empty when it's interacting with your parents with your sister. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, all of these relationships are either filling our tank or they're drawing from our tank. [SPEAKER_01]: And so when we're thriving, look, we're going to have relationships that are going to pull from our tank.

[SPEAKER_01]: that we can't really change because of the nature of the relationship. [SPEAKER_00]: Or the person themselves, you can't change another person. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, but because you choose to be in relationship with somebody or you have to be. [SPEAKER_01]: And it draws from you, you can still be a person who is relationally thriving because you've taking, you've taken some antidotes from our healthy inner circle, or from being emotionally grounded.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know how to put up healthy fences, you can still just because a relationship is drawing from you, doesn't mean that you aren't relationally thriving. [SPEAKER_00]: And this is where we talk about. [SPEAKER_00]: bringing it into awareness, bringing it into the light, seeing it for what it is and saying, oh, I'm having to spend time around this person that will only try to deplete me. [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's where the if the awareness is. [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. [SPEAKER_01]: Essential. [SPEAKER_01]: This episode of the Healthy Hurried Human podcast is sponsored by midlife thrives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Learn more and connect at midlifethrives.com because thriving in midlife is an optional? [SPEAKER_01]: It's your new standard. [SPEAKER_01]: It's important we're going to keep saying that there is an appraisal that goes along with this wheel, this product that we've created.

[SPEAKER_01]: There is this, we're not just talking about something in theory, there is something that helps you understand where you are in each of these eight key functional areas. [SPEAKER_01]: We have an appraisal and that helps you bring clarity to, okay, which relationships are filling me up, which ones are drawing for me, and then what am I doing about it? [SPEAKER_01]: So that's a really, really thriving, you're going to talk about empowering questions. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to talk about empowering questions.

[SPEAKER_00]: The next spoke, another spoke on the wheel. [SPEAKER_00]: This one is one of my favorites because I don't use it very well, but when I really begin to understand what empowering questions do for you, it is a game changer. [SPEAKER_00]: So it is [SPEAKER_00]: asking the questions to get clarity and not solve. [SPEAKER_00]: you're asking questions to understand the situation more.

[SPEAKER_00]: This really ties into relationally thriving, if you're not understanding exactly what's going on with certain relationships or emotionally grounded, you ask questions to get clarity. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not to solve the problem. [SPEAKER_00]: And for some people, that is a, you like, [SPEAKER_00]: Screech of breaks because we're so driven to what's the solution, what's the solution? [SPEAKER_00]: How do I fix this?

[SPEAKER_00]: Who's the who makes the problem? [SPEAKER_00]: And these questions, again, really this wheel, it's not a judgmental tool. [SPEAKER_00]: It truly is to help you. [SPEAKER_00]: It is your friend.

[SPEAKER_01]: It is the clarity tool, though. [SPEAKER_00]: It is the whole thing is. [SPEAKER_00]: But empowering questions, [SPEAKER_00]: when really it is just asking for more clarity asking for more clarity. [SPEAKER_00]: It's appealing the onion.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's also [SPEAKER_00]: If you really do learn how to do this well and you're not using these in a crisis situation and you're using them from a healthy place, it's more like curiosity over control. [SPEAKER_00]: You're curious, you're interested, you're mining for information. [SPEAKER_00]: And I, [SPEAKER_00]: after five years being a recruiter, I kind of accidentally just recruit everybody. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, how did you get this?

[SPEAKER_00]: I went to a spa side L, that's a very well-known spot in Atlanta. [SPEAKER_00]: They have a couple different locations, probably they could be all over the world. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry about that. [SPEAKER_00]: And I was getting a massage, and the whole time, while my friends have told me this is not relaxing.

[SPEAKER_00]: I talked to the massage therapist the entire time. [SPEAKER_00]: Learned her whole back work, because how did you end up being a masseuse? [SPEAKER_00]: And where did you start? [SPEAKER_00]: What was your first career or how did you get here?

[SPEAKER_00]: So, I just... You're very curious about people. [SPEAKER_00]: I am, and it's very enjoyable. [SPEAKER_00]: So, [SPEAKER_00]: Recently, I was in a conversation with somebody where it was caustic and hostile and I was so frustrated and I realized I'm trying to make a point and they just want to be heard.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the sitting with them and just asking more questions, what ended up happening? [SPEAKER_00]: I ended up happening is they ended up talking through their whole point to the point that they started making my points for me. [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I didn't have to work that hard. [SPEAKER_00]: If I had just asked more questions initially and let them talk, what they were initially saying right off the bat wasn't really what the heart of the issue was.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's really important to understand with empowering questions that we truly are. [SPEAKER_01]: If there is any element behind you asking the question of trying to prove a point or to have the upper hand, you're not doing it right. [SPEAKER_01]: Empiring questions are truly from a place of curiosity to bring clarity to a situation. [SPEAKER_01]: And we're in a place right now, I think globally, [SPEAKER_01]: dialogue about dialogue and what's acceptable dialogue and how should we be having dialogue and there's there's a lot of opinions and judgments on dialogue and how we should have dialogue and what's what's allowed and I truly believe and I think people can understand to like I believe people are a little more [SPEAKER_00]: A where or discerning to know when a question is coming from curiosity versus you're trying to get the upper hand on me or leading questions like sometimes I'll hear journalists who cannot respond to the answer to the question that they asked because they're just being driven by the next question.

[SPEAKER_00]: They want to ask and we've all been there. [SPEAKER_00]: I've been there a lot because I talk a lot. [SPEAKER_00]: I think so I get a lot of opportunity to question my thoughts and how I try to get people to listen to me and [SPEAKER_00]: I want to just I'm going to leave empowering questions and jump to the next one because it can lead into The next one is volunteer impact in the importance of volunteering. [SPEAKER_00]: I've we did a special episode a couple weeks ago about this.

[SPEAKER_00]: I've been talking a lot about this with people and [SPEAKER_00]: When using empowering questions to understand like what volunteer impact you're going to do or what volunteer how you're going to show up and volunteer in your organization there's a lot of people out there with the changes that are going on in the fall of 2025 with. [SPEAKER_00]: lack of government funding and a lot of our charitable organizations and even the government shut down where Where the need is going to arise to show up and to help more or to give more and We using empowering questions to know [SPEAKER_00]: where you spend your time in money, as well as volunteer impact connects very strongly to another one of the KFIs and that's purpose driven.

[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of these interact with each other, but just a simple way, volunteer impact can also, we haven't [SPEAKER_00]: We talked previously about within an organization when an organization decides to ask their people to come and do to volunteer or if there's a committee that is where you're asking your employees to [SPEAKER_00]: form a committee and it's going to be volunteer. [SPEAKER_00]: It is an opportunity for us to get leadership experience, to develop leadership skills, to develop other skills, while also reaching out to your community and having impact.

[SPEAKER_00]: And when you're in that and you're running a committee and maybe the committee has a budget or the committee has a timeline, sometimes it can help [SPEAKER_00]: expand, understand pressures and see things from a different angle, it's just, it's an opportunity for you to get a lot of different perspective on many different areas. [SPEAKER_00]: I've been through seasons where I had to cut back on volunteering personally and I've been through seasons where I have a plethora of options.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think the biggest thing with or an element that's important with volunteer impact is it gets us, we tend to as human beings to live in a vacuum or in our own bubbles. [SPEAKER_01]: And when we get out of volunteer impact moves us out of our bubble and gives perspective not just to our life but to the world to say, [SPEAKER_01]: not everybody lives like me or this is hard. [SPEAKER_01]: This is something that we take for granite. [SPEAKER_01]: We realize somebody else has to struggle for or fight for gratitude.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so it creates an element and it's so important for our mental health because yes, it does. [SPEAKER_01]: It puts us in a place of gratitude. [SPEAKER_01]: And it puts us in a place of abundance versus scarcity because often times when we're volunteering, we realize that wherever we're giving, so I mean, I don't mean just, you know, your places where there's food or shelter and things like that. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking when you volunteer and you understand there are families that really struggle because they have special needs children and maybe you don't have children that struggle [SPEAKER_01]: my gosh, it's not really that hard in my home where maybe that morning you're like my home is hard.

[SPEAKER_01]: It does a lot for our mental health when we expand outside of our vacuum that we tend to live them because we're human and that's human nature. [SPEAKER_01]: So moving into the next one, I'm not even going to count which one we're on, is the daily self-parenting and this is where self-discipline meets self-kindness. [SPEAKER_01]: Tire teams don't just need another training, they need transformation, the healthy hurried human lab helps organizations build emotionally fit resilient and connected teams that perform better without burning out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: especially during the pandemic we heard a lot of the term self-care and then when you would see people describe or pictures up of self-care, I would say that's not self-care, that's self-indulgence. [SPEAKER_01]: Which there is a time in a place for the extra chocolate cake or the bubble bath with champagne and the [SPEAKER_01]: and whatever we're doing that is lovely we cannot call that self care because self care is that thing that we're all missing that we can't wait to get rid of when we're 18 or when we're 16 and it's that the the voice of our parents saying hey you know did you eat your vegetables are you getting enough sleep or your teeth or your teeth flossing every night are you taking [SPEAKER_01]: take a shower.

[SPEAKER_01]: I hope most adults are remembering to take a shower, but it's those things that we sorry. [SPEAKER_00]: This is me wondering, did I remember to clean out the litter box? [SPEAKER_00]: That's the story in my life. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not [SPEAKER_00]: it's not there.

[SPEAKER_01]: Are they remembering to tonight, but our parents would remind you, Katherine, if you're dating clean out the little box, like it's just the it's that parenting voice. [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully we can make it a lovely encouraging voice, huh? [SPEAKER_01]: I really hope I did. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_01]: You're still on that. [SPEAKER_01]: But it's that it's that voice as that we need as a parent. [SPEAKER_01]: You actually just told me that this morning I could use a little mothering in my life. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It's, there is a Michelle reminded me to bring my paperwork because, like, chronically, the last four times I've showed up for things I have not had my paperwork, I haven't had a phone, or the charger by computer dies, all of these little tiny things and a lot of it to my credit is that I'm working at a three different offices and I'm scattered and I, so now I have three different charging cables and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and I have, and [SPEAKER_00]: you know, but she texted me and said, hey, don't forget your papers and I don't want to mother you, but like, I appreciate that because, hey, thank you for helping me.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's, but I had a friend this week, say to me, it's just, this is interesting. [SPEAKER_01]: I got to leave this little antidote, who is saying, I just, I want to remember, [SPEAKER_01]: She was kind of venting a little bit about wishing her parents were more in tune to where she is as an adult and like would just kind of offer to step in. [SPEAKER_01]: Right? [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and not that she felt like they owed it to her, but it's like I want to remember that when my children are grown in adult and they have young kids and a family I hope that I'll remember what that was like and I hope I can intuitively step in and kind of help that burden. [SPEAKER_01]: And she said, as she continued to talk, I have a sister who has done that, and has really stepped in for me, and has really played that role, but my sister said, yeah, I wish somebody would, I wish I had that kind of parent for me too.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it just reminded me, I'm like, we all kind of really want and miss and need kind of the supportive parenting thing that we grew up with, especially if it was, you know, there were healthy aspects to it. [SPEAKER_01]: We want that in our life. [SPEAKER_00]: There is. [SPEAKER_00]: My friend Christy and I were talking about the big power ball that was couple like last month or something and how what would you do with a billion dollars?

[SPEAKER_00]: You know that that whole conversation and They boil down the self-care. [SPEAKER_00]: I would have someone cook for me. [SPEAKER_00]: I would have someone drive me like these are things that if I could alleviate them It's not that I would [SPEAKER_00]: buy something. [SPEAKER_00]: It's something I would take off my plate that's a responsibility that just feels too much.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes we get to places in our lives where, and I think you're, you're, we're making this distinction. [SPEAKER_00]: It is, this is not a luxury. [SPEAKER_00]: This is a basic need.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you and I had this conversation. [SPEAKER_00]: I sound like I need a lot of parenting. [SPEAKER_00]: reason I just think you need more sleep about something like and I'll go on record and say I was getting the same hours of sleep but they were at a later time I was going to bed later and just going to bed earlier getting the same amount of sleep really is I did need that at the longer period just I was like oh I wasn't aware that let's try a different late type thing so yeah they're just it's that being in and being this for yourself it's key and it's [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and we're we need to move on from this because we're going to run that time talk about the other ones because we already almost have but I think it's it's in we need to make sure that we want to be clear this is basic level things these are not luxuries that's right.

[SPEAKER_00]: of the basic level of care of hydration, which you talked about in the last one. [SPEAKER_01]: Andration, nutrition, sleep, sunshine, exercise. [SPEAKER_00]: These are the basics. [SPEAKER_00]: And we have to make sure we're getting those for ourselves.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we've exhausted that. [SPEAKER_00]: Now let's go on to talk about the positive self-group. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, positive self-growth, just [SPEAKER_00]: We're kind of stuck on time. [SPEAKER_00]: Do we just want to like throw these out there kind of quickly or I mean we can hit on them briefly.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think of the Tim McGraw stay humble stay kind, but it's it's staying humble and teachable understanding that you can learn something new from every single person you interact with. [SPEAKER_01]: Also, it's pursuing self-awareness, it's also pursuing knowledge to how can I be better, what can I learn? [SPEAKER_01]: You asked the question all the time, and I love it, and it always, like, would it, but I'm like that with questions, but would it be learned lately?

[SPEAKER_00]: What's something new you've learned? [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, that was my, [SPEAKER_00]: hands down interview question because I wanted to find I wanted to hire life-long learners. [SPEAKER_00]: Because in my mind, there is so much that we are asking up-skilling right now as a big thing of teaching your employees new skills. [SPEAKER_00]: and a fixed mindset, a stagnant mindset, not having the importance of growth mindset, these are valuable, valuable tools in the workplace, and as flexible as you can keep your mind to learn new things and to try new things is, [SPEAKER_00]: That's a game changer for successful people, as well as kindness and openness people.

[SPEAKER_00]: The more even politically my sister said this, and it's the most brilliant things, if we had more conversations about where we do agree. [SPEAKER_00]: then we would realize there's not as much divide. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just where sometimes people start to solve the problem. [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_00]: And if we did that in the job site or on the differences, where do we agree? [SPEAKER_00]: Where do we align? [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see what we have that's together. [SPEAKER_00]: And then let's try to solve the problem from what we actually share.

[SPEAKER_00]: But to do that, you have to be open to here and understand other people. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's, [SPEAKER_00]: it is um, huge. [SPEAKER_01]: But again, this is where the appraisal comes in because I feel like people, we've presented this to people before in groups, whereas when we've just presented this, people are like, I'm good. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm good.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm good. [SPEAKER_01]: Like they look at it because when they look at our definition, they're like, yeah, I'm doing that. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm good.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm good. [SPEAKER_01]: The appraisal is where it digs deeper and it asks very specific questions on these things to where somebody says, oh, I didn't, I didn't realize that because remember, this is, you remember this, but our listeners may not. [SPEAKER_01]: Thousands and thousands of difference of people who come in for therapy and counseling and consulting within the workforce, [SPEAKER_01]: condense to saying that fits here in this book.

[SPEAKER_01]: What you're talking about fits here. [SPEAKER_01]: What you're talking about there fits on that spoke. [SPEAKER_01]: It's, we can condense any of your story down into one of these spokes. [SPEAKER_01]: And so that's where the appraisal comes in.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we've got two more, paying in there with us. [SPEAKER_01]: Healthy inner circle. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to just say, if, if, [SPEAKER_01]: you haven't heard our deep dive episode, it's early in season two, where we really go into healthy inner circle, but healthy inner circle is protecting your energy and your influence, and there's very specific ways to look at that. [SPEAKER_01]: writing a book on it right now.

[SPEAKER_01]: This one is deep. [SPEAKER_01]: This one is probably the most clarifying one. [SPEAKER_01]: And we were talking about it in the first part of the episode before this about it's relationships are either filling us or they're drawing from us and that what was it you wrote [SPEAKER_01]: they're all important in every relationship that we're in, whether it's our co-workers, our children, our spouse, our boss, our manager, every relationship is either filling or drawing from us.

[SPEAKER_01]: It gives to us or a draws from us. [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. [SPEAKER_01]: So that's healthy in our circle. [SPEAKER_01]: Again, the appraisal asks specific questions for you to understand.

[SPEAKER_01]: Are the people that are around me, are they, is it a healthy thing? [SPEAKER_01]: And then lastly is purpose driven. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: And this is the, it, we could use it in terms of, this is the engine, this is your driver.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is also your value system. [SPEAKER_00]: It's your anchor. [SPEAKER_00]: It's how you, when you really move into understanding purpose driven, which we also did a deeper dive earlier this season. [SPEAKER_00]: When you really understand that for yourself, [SPEAKER_00]: it can bring such clarity.

[SPEAKER_00]: It can also be like, hey, I'm exhausting myself because these don't fit into what my what my engine or my anchor is. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's such a great way to it's to ultimate fuel purpose is the ultimate fuel. [SPEAKER_01]: I love that phrase because I've kind of had a little dance with that this year. [SPEAKER_01]: And [SPEAKER_01]: getting clarity and and niching down and saying this is really what I I love doing all the other stuff just kind of drains me Getting down to what is my purpose and coming back to that and I've always for the last 15 years I would say this is what I would say to myself you understand your purpose and you go after it but [SPEAKER_01]: Even in that being true, I still pull on.

[SPEAKER_01]: I tend to start picking other apples or pulling on other projects or saying yes to more things to where I'm like, wait a minute, I'm getting like, it's draining my fuel, but when I get real clear on my purpose, boy, it just re-energizes. [SPEAKER_00]: I wanna give a shout out to one of our faithful listeners, Tom, Tom out there, thank you for listening to us. [SPEAKER_00]: I know this is a longer episode than we thought, but, [SPEAKER_00]: I was about to say something and I could hear Tom's voice in my head because you just went through a medical situation and you really sick health crisis and you could not work and you had to just sit in it and you were watching all these things pile up and you just had to kind of [SPEAKER_00]: Let that go and be in that moment, but you had been seeking clarity for and direction and in the stillness you were able to find clarity and direction.

[SPEAKER_00]: And all I could hear is our listener, Tom, who is in a feedback that says not everybody has the luxury of space and time to think and sometimes you have to find that [SPEAKER_00]: because if you're with this purpose driven with all of these, if it's not a lecture, you have to make it. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you just get to a place if you're stuck, if you're looking for clarity, if you need time, sometimes you just need to pause and give yourself quiet clarity, just space to let to defrag your brain to let everything come together.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because these spokes, when you have one of them, it's that grocery cart, that plastic wheel that's broken, it'll thrive and then it won't, and it'll thrive and then it won't, and it is important to do these aspects to run this wheel to figure out where it is, because we, we want these, [SPEAKER_00]: These are not to some abstract concept. [SPEAKER_00]: We haven't just pulled these together. [SPEAKER_00]: These are daily practices that make you a healthy, very human, to be healthy in this hurried world, which is the basis of why we're sitting here and talking into microphones today and hitting them with our chins and trying to give you all a space in a place and an understanding of how you can drive the best because that's really what we want for you.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of our purposes. [SPEAKER_00]: And we hope that this was helpful. [SPEAKER_00]: And if you have a challenge for our listeners today, well, do you? [SPEAKER_00]: You can take the challenge then today.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yes, well, the conversation we were having was that we were running out of time with. [UNKNOWN]: But, [SPEAKER_00]: is where we were talking ourselves about which one of these do we think we need to go have focus on and we have a challenge of what if you all looked at our look take one of these eight and spend a couple of days, three days, five days where all you asked yourself was questions about this one emotionally, relationally, purpose, volunteer, spend some time with this just bring it up [SPEAKER_00]: Think about it first thing in the morning, let it ruminate.

[SPEAKER_00]: in that RAS system and ask yourself the start asking yourself these questions, which one, what are these, each one of these KFI stadiums? [SPEAKER_01]: Where do I need some awareness? [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good, we're in one of these spokes, where do I need more awareness? [SPEAKER_01]: And if you'd like some help or assistance, feel free to reach out to us email us at info at foxagingconsulting.

com. [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be happy to help you work the wheel. [SPEAKER_01]: The healthy hurried human podcast is brought to you by Foxaging Consulting and a handful of silent sponsors who believe in this work and quietly keep us going. [SPEAKER_01]: We see you, we thank you, and we are glad that you're part of this journey.