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The Founder's Formula Podcast

Hosted by Chet Lovegren

The Founder's Formula Podcast is designed to bring current founders, co-founders, founding CEOs, and aspiring entrepreneurs alike the latest and greatest insight from founders who have "been there and done that".

42 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2023-09-12 · ~26 min/episode

Rank

#4542

Substance

54.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Startups & Founders rank

#658 of 926

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Across the index

#4542 of 6219

Substance

Top 73%

outscores 27% of the index

Why it scores where it does

The Founder's Formula Podcast ranks #4542 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 54.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on insight density and originality. The episode has a few genuinely useful observations - LLMs used as interviewers rather than data-query tools, the distortion of customer voice as companies scale, and the gap between CRM disposition data and reality - but these are buried under extended biographical backstory and the host's own lengthy tangential anecdotes. Novel ideas per minute is low.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

11.0 / 20

The episode has a few genuinely useful observations - LLMs used as interviewers rather than data-query tools, the distortion of customer voice as companies scale, and the gap between CRM disposition data and reality - but these are buried under extended biographical backstory and the host's own lengthy tangential anecdotes. Novel ideas per minute is low.

“I wanted to see if I could actually write a prompt and engineer a couple different bots simultaneously to play the role of an interviewer, a user interviewer”

“tools and employees got between them and that end customer and ultimately the voice of the customer got filtered and distorted”

Originality

11.0 / 20

The framing of an LLM conducting structured user interviews (rather than answering questions) has some freshness, and the observation that cross-functional leaders can't argue against direct customer voice is a decent insight. Everything else - win-loss analysis, sales reps blaming product/budget, co-founder dynamics - is well-worn territory.

“can I leverage the LLM to extract new insights from humans rather than asking it to go extract insights from a corpus of data or the Internet”

“who can't we argue against? Well we can't argue against the customer. So we get direct raw feedback from them in aggregate”

Guest Caliber

11.0 / 20

Brandon Santos is a credible first-time founder with relevant sales-leadership experience at mid-market SaaS companies, but has not led a go-to-market function at meaningful scale and is at a pre-revenue MVP stage. As a portfolio company of the sponsoring VC, the episode has a promotional character that limits candor.

“I actually recruited him into Center Code to be my sales manager”

“we're very early on in this thing is finding design partners. Not even trying to get customers, necessarily”

Specificity & Evidence

11.0 / 20

A handful of named companies and resources (Blue Jeans, Center Code, Mavenlink, FSK Ventures, YC co-founder matching, CoFounders Lab) and one close-rate figure (22% to 35%, from the host not the guest) add texture, but the product has no live customers or performance data, and most claims about impact are hypothetical or aspirational.

“close rates go from 22 to like 35”

“We've been working with them for the past five months”

Conversational Craft

10.0 / 20

The host repeatedly derails into multi-minute personal anecdotes (3PL Central win-loss program, technical co-founder search woes) that crowd out the guest and go unconnected to sharper follow-up questions. Questions are mostly leading and softball, with no meaningful pushback on product claims or go-to-market assumptions.

“we'd pay a pretty hefty penny to a company to manually call, um, closed lost deals, figure out why they didn't buy and we go through the whole report”

“I got totally hosed on something I was trying to put together and I had somebody invoicing me for work that wasn't even done”

Standout episodes

  • Episode 34: Building a Better Customer Feedback Engine with Brannon Santos (Founder & CEO at ChatGems)

    2023-09-12

    54

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 42 tracked in total.

  • Episode 34: Building a Better Customer Feedback Engine with Brannon Santos (Founder & CEO at ChatGems)

    2023-09-12 · 30 min

    54 / 100

Frequently asked

What is The Founder's Formula Podcast's substance score?
The Founder's Formula Podcast scores 54.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #4542 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 27% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #658 of 926 in Startups & Founders. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is The Founder's Formula Podcast worth listening to?
The Founder's Formula Podcast is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 54.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts The Founder's Formula Podcast?
The Founder's Formula Podcast is hosted by Chet Lovegren.
How often does The Founder's Formula Podcast publish?
The Founder's Formula Podcast publishes weekly, has 42 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2023-09-12.
Which The Founder's Formula Podcast episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Episode 34: Building a Better Customer Feedback Engine with Brannon Santos (Founder & CEO at ChatGems)" (54/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

ChatGemsHatchet VenturesBlue JeansZoomMavenlinkCenter CodeChico StateChatGPTSalesforce

Guests who've appeared

Brannon Santos

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Revenue operationsPLG (Product-Led Growth)LLMsProduct-market fitWin-loss analysisUser Interviewscustomer feedbackChatGemsAI-powered chat interviewsgrowth leaders

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