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Dina Breslin on Transformational Coaching, Mindset Shifts, and Embracing Self-Care

The Beyond Business Podcast · 2025-11-13 · 50 min

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Key moments - from our scoring

Substance score

32 / 100

Five dimensions, 20 points each

Insight Density7 / 20
Originality5 / 20
Guest Caliber8 / 20
Specificity & Evidence6 / 20
Conversational Craft6 / 20

Dina Breslin brings a unique hybrid approach to transformational coaching, combining her background as a physician assistant with deep training in life coaching, leadership development, and somatic practices like meridian release and emotional tapping. She works primarily with C-suite executives, small to medium business owners, parents navigating teenage relationships, and individuals seeking career transitions or marriage restoration. Her core methodology centers on identifying blind spots through perspective shifts (what she calls "going to eagle"), then helping clients release stuck emotions held in specific organs according to traditional Chinese medicine principles - the liver and gallbladder hold anger and frustration, for instance. Breslin emphasizes that physical symptoms like teeth grinding, poor sleep, and digestive issues often stem from unprocessed emotions and generational trauma patterns. Unlike traditional therapy, her retained coaching model includes both weekly sessions and "just-in-time" moments of support to build new neural pathways and nervous system responses. She measures success through incremental progress and client willingness to practice new tools, always working toward client independence rather than long-term dependency.

Key takeaways

  • →Unworthiness and shame are the foundational mindset blocks preventing most people from achieving their goals in relationships, careers, finances, and health.
  • →Somatic coaching techniques like meridian release and emotional tapping can help clients process stuck emotions stored in organs, directly impacting physical symptoms like digestive issues and sleep problems.
  • →True transformation requires consistent practice and accountability - similar to athletic training - not one-off insights, which is why retained coaching models with in-the-moment support accelerate results.
  • →Generational trauma and inherited family patterns must be addressed at the root to break cycles affecting not just the individual but entire family dynamics.
  • →Success is measured by incremental progress and the client's ability to independently recognize and self-correct using learned tools, with the coach facilitating rather than becoming a permanent dependency.

In this episode

  1. 1Dina's Journey from Physician Assistant to Transformational Coach
  2. 2Sales Leadership Experience and Pattern Interruption Approach
  3. 3The Eagle Perspective: Helping Clients See From Different Angles
  4. 4Self-Worth and Shame as Core Mindset Blocks
  5. 5Releasing Stuck Emotions Through Organ-Based Healing
  6. 6Building New Neural Pathways and Nervous System Rewiring
  7. 7Client Independence and Long-Term Practice of Tools

Mentioned

Dina BreslinCatherineBeyond Business Podcast

Guests

Dina Breslin

Topics in this episode

Executive coachinggenerational traumaTraditional Chinese medicineTransformational coachingPattern interruptionDISC personality profilingSomatic coaching techniquesMeridian releaseEmotional tappingNervous system rewiring

Questions this episode answers

What's the main difference between transformational coaching and traditional therapy?

Transformational coaching focuses on forward progress and building new neural pathways through active practice and accountability, whereas therapy can sometimes become open-ended. Breslin emphasizes retained coaching with both weekly sessions and in-the-moment support to rewire nervous systems, rather than indefinite weekly sessions that can extend for decades.

How do stuck emotions in organs like the liver and gallbladder actually cause physical symptoms?

According to traditional Chinese medicine principles Breslin applies, organs hold emotional energy (Qi); the liver and gallbladder store anger and frustration, which connects through meridians to the face, jaw, and digestive tract. Chronic anger can manifest as teeth grinding, poor sleep, IBS, and digestive dysfunction until the underlying emotion is released.

Can clients eventually stop working with a coach and manage on their own?

Yes - the goal is always independence. Clients learn tools and practice them with accountability until they can recognize old patterns and self-correct. Many return occasionally for specific new challenges, but the relationship is not designed to create long-term dependency.

What personality type is Dina Breslin and how does that shape her coaching style?

She's a DISC 'D' personality (lion) - direct, a pattern interrupter, and caller-out of blind spots. This makes her firm yet compassionate; she doesn't sit back waiting for clients to figure things out, but actively walks through challenges with them, tweaking their approach like a sports coach refining a technique.

How does Breslin's medical background as a physician assistant inform her coaching?

Her medical training gives her understanding of biochemistry, microbiome function, functional medicine, and how the body works, allowing her to connect emotional patterns to physical health outcomes and partner with other practitioners when needed for holistic healing.

What our scoring noted

Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.

Insight Density

7 / 20

The episode relies heavily on coaching platitudes and motivational language ('all roads lead back to you,' 'you deserve better,' 'self-worth') without concrete methodologies or specific insights a B2B operator would find novel. While some frameworks are mentioned (the 'eagle perspective,' meridian-based emotional release, DISC profiles), they are explained in vague, non-technical terms that lack actionable depth. Most value comes from the personal example of the client managing anxiety triggers, but this is a single anecdote stretched across the episode rather than substantive insight density.

all roads lead back to you
I'm not worthy. I'm not worthy to have the intimate relationship in the marriage that I want

Originality

5 / 20

The coaching approach is conventionally mainstream: reframing beliefs, emotional release work tied to Chinese medicine organs, mindfulness/meditation, accountability coaching, and the idea that personal transformation precedes external results. None of this is novel or contrarian. The guest does not reference original research, cite unconventional frameworks, or challenge orthodoxy in coaching or business psychology. The episode recycles familiar wellness and self-help narratives that circulate widely.

the organs hold the Qi and the Qi is energy
How bad do you want better?

Guest Caliber

8 / 20

Dina Breslin has relevant operating experience (physician assistant background, pharmaceutical sales, network marketing team-building, coaching certification). However, her credibility is mixed: she is a career coach/life coach, not a B2B executive or founder with P&L responsibility. Her claims about 'quadrupling business in 10-14 days' and her methodology (emotional release, organ-based coaching) lack third-party validation or detailed case studies. For a B2B operator seeking to learn from peer practitioners, her positioning is more wellness consultant than business builder.

I became a physician assistant and did practice medicine for some years
I built a multi million dollar team

Specificity & Evidence

6 / 20

The episode is almost entirely anecdotal and vague. While the guest mentions working with 'hundreds of clients' and offers one detailed example (the client managing social anxiety), specifics are absent: no company names, revenue figures, timelines, or measurable outcomes beyond the vague 'quadrupled business' claim. References to Chinese medicine and meridian-based practices are referenced but not explained with citations or evidence. The discussion of functional medicine, probiotics, and the microbiome are mentioned in passing without data or examples.

I've worked with hundreds of of clients
she's quadrupled quadrupled her business. The amount of sales in 10 to it was fourteen days

Conversational Craft

6 / 20

Catherine's questions are warm and open-ended but lack rigor. She asks leading, supportive follow-ups ('how does that shape your approach?') rather than probing questions that challenge claims or demand evidence. She does not push back on unsupported assertions (e.g., the 'quadrupled business' claim, the meridian-emotion linking, the 10-14 day transformation timeline). There is one moment where the host notes the guest is muted, but no substantive follow-up on substantive disagreements or critical inquiry. The conversation reads as a friendly validation session rather than a rigorous interrogation.

That's a great question
I love that. You know what? It's it is so interesting how people operate

Conversation analysis

Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.

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Episode notes

Katherine Martín-Fisher engages in a conversation with Dina Breslin, a transformational coach, who shares her journey from a career in medicine to becoming a certified coach. Dina recounts her transition from sales and leadership to coaching, highlighting her unique "going to eagle" technique. They discuss overcoming common mindset blocks and the connection between emotions and physical health in fostering client independence. Dina shares client success stories and strategies for addressing resistance in coaching. The discussion also covers her personal experiences, self-care routines, and the significance of retreats. The episode concludes with Dina’s vision for the future and how listeners can

Full transcript

50 min

Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.

Good afternoon this is Catherine your host with the beyond business podcast I'm excited because we have Dina Breslin she is our guest today and she is a transformational coach she's a speaker a mentor who helps people unlock their highest potential and live from a place of purpose and alignment. Today we'll dive into how she helps her clients break through barriers, find clarity, and transform their lives and businesses. Dina welcome welcome to the beyond business podcast. I'm excited for our conversation today.

Thanks for having me Catherine what a pleasure to be with you today love it. So one of the ways that I would love for our audience to get to know you is to just if you could share just a little bit about your journey and what inspired you to become a transformational coach. So thank you for asking. I I've always thought of myself as you know, and originally, I went to school to be a healer in medicine where I was gonna be a doctor.

I became, a physician assistant, and I did practice medicine for some years. But over overall, I've I've always been that person that pushes the envelope, the person that changes wants to change patterns. I want to be a pattern interrupter. I want to seek the truth.

And that has led me over the years to leave medicine, to stay at home with my kids. I raised three beautiful children. They're now in their twenties And along the way, I was suffering. I was going through my own darkness.

My marriage was failing. I wasn't doing the best I could as a mother. I didn't know who I was. I didn't know what I wanted to do.

And I, lo and behold, came across a life coach in 2010. And I didn't know what life coaching was. I certainly understood what therapy was because I had been in it off and on for years, but a life coach was something that was different and so I hired her and I learned from her and you know, it's what was one of those eureka moments where I was like that, whatever that is, there's something about that thing and I'm gonna go and do it and I'm gonna go and do it to the best that I absolutely can.

And that was in 2012 and I got certified in multiple schools through multiple thought leaders and mentors and guides. And the journey has really brought me to this moment where I now work with I've worked with hundreds of of clients, whether it's male, female, I help parents with their teenagers. I help small to medium sized business owners in the C Suite in the executive area really get clear on their operations. I, I help women who are struggling with careers, career choices, whether they want to shift careers.

I helped marriages get back on track, and I help people heal their bodies from the inside out. So that has been a journey for my own self and my own self discovery and so I have really followed the path of being a healer or I should say a sort of the vehicle to help others do their own healing. So I'm sort of the the guide. I'm not the healer per se, but I help bring back their truth and their authenticity so that they can heal.

They can have what they want in their life. They can make the money that they want, have the right business, have work life integration and balance, have the relationships that they want with the people that matter most to them, bring back more time in their day. So I'm not a healer per se. There's nothing magical or mystical about me, but I'm the, facilitator, the liaison between here and that entity out there.

Well, so before you started coaching, you had a successful background in sales and leadership. And so how did that experience shape? How does that shape your approach to coaching? So I you know what, when we do those disc profiles, I'm a d.

I'm a I'm a lion. So I'm a leader by nature. So I'm very direct. And being a pattern interrupter, I'm also a caller outer of bullshit.

So that has helped me immensely, meaning what I learned in pharmaceutical sales, the heart, the difficulties I had, you know, with gatekeepers and networking and working a pretty tough, pretty competitive business as a pharma sales rep and then being a physician assistant and having to influence people. And then I shifted gears and stayed home with the kids and I began in direct sales and in network marketing and I built a multi million dollar team there. I didn't know what I didn't know in terms of leadership and, influence.

So while I'm direct and I'm a lion and I can go get stuff for myself as a singular individual, a solo salesperson, a solo practitioner, a solo, you know, provider if you will, I can do all that. I didn't know how to lead a team very well. And so probably in like I mentioned 2010, I was with a coach. I started to learn how to influence bigger groups of people and how to really influence the mind of others.

And so I love being direct. You know, I love seeing things from a different angle. I love interruption, pattern interruption, because clearly if something's not working for you, we have to interrupt it and we have to shift. So those are the things that I've learned along the way.

Learned I dove deep into leadership development for myself, for my teams. And, and I'm very passionate about influencing others. So, you know, sort of the heart of what I do is self leadership. Like when I when someone hires me, I do self leadership and agency and bring them back to authenticity and healing themselves.

And then ultimately, it's about leading and influencing others in their life. It might be a husband. It might be children. It might be a team.

It might be investors. You know, it might be a nonprofit situation, the community. So I like leadership I love that now some of the things like when you when you talk about being a lion or being a d and you know and for people who know the difference in personality types how do you how are you able to influence someone when you see that they're hitting a brick wall and so that they can actually pass through it So there's a technique that I call going to eagle. So it's a different perspective.

It's helping people and this is why coaching is so important. I have to say, you know, some of us feel like, oh, I can do it myself. Well, if you're not arriving at the place that you want, whether it's in your home environment or your relationships, your intimacy, your intimate partners, your children, your parenting, your spirituality, your money, your career, your own health and fitness. If you are not where you need to be, I'm gonna bet that you can't see something.

That there's something that you can't see. There's a blind spot that you're having. And going to Eagle often requires somebody who's skilled at helping you go to a different perspective. And that's what I do.

So, and then once I do that and have them see it from a different lens, that's how influence happens. Then they can say, I can see it better. I would prefer this versus this. And while it sounds simple, it's often not simple to just go and see it from a different perspective.

It's often not. Why? Because our mind and our body holds on to old stories, old language, old emotions, and that causes us to be sort of blind and deaf and incapable often to see things on our own. So would you say that that perspective is what differentiates you from other coaches and other styles of coaching?

No, I think coaching is that's kind of the art and science of coaching. So there's many coaches out there that want their clients to see from a different perspective. However, the way that I do it is firm. I'm very firm and I'm very compassionate and I'm a I'm a good true leader.

So you can bring somebody up to another level as a coach, and then you can sit back and wait for that person to figure it out on their own. That's not how I am as a coach. How I am as a coach, I'm gonna design it so that I am walking on the fire in through the fire with you. So my coaching clients actually, you know, they get a retained a retained time with me.

That means it's not just once a week. This isn't like therapy. We're not coming once a week to be with me. We're coming once a week.

But we're also having in just in time moments. That's how you grow new neural pathways, a new nervous system, a new trackway from the brain to the body, from the body to the brain. It's, it's challenging, for the client and therefore they can they can lean on me in those harder times. So it's just in time coaching as well.

And that's how you influence somebody. That's literally how you you influence them by growing new, growing a new nervous system, helping their fascia release old stuck emotions, helping their organs release old stuck emotions in the moment when they're thinking and feeling what their that what has kept them back for so long. So what would you say that in in your experience, what's the biggest mindset block that most people have? So the one of the bigger ones is and it's very convoluted, so it's not just as simple as this.

It's like, it's a whole narrative. It's a whole paragraph of thoughts that are strung together. But usually, it starts with, I don't deserve. And and and it's very and this is another thing.

It's often that's the other thing that as a coach, I have to help people hear and see what they've been bullshitting themselves about. And one of those things are lying to themselves about. And one of those things is that I'm not worthy. I'm not worthy to have the intimate relationship in the marriage that I want.

I'm not worthy, to take back my or have strong boundaries with my children. Like, I'm it's not I can't have it. That's what they're saying to themselves and but they're not even realizing that that's what they're saying. It's a feeling it's an energy of unworthiness.

It's an energy of shame. It's an energy of confusion. This is why I'm so passionate about what I do because we even parents, let's say, parents have imprinted to their children the things that they received as an imprint when they were younger. And so what we're doing is we're breaking generational old story, And those kids need the care.

So if they're, you know, preteen teen early 20s, sometimes I'm working even with children of the cup of the couple that I'm working with, who are in their 30s. I'm working with the whole family dynamic. Why? Because everybody's been imprinted.

And then if we're trying to break down, break those walls and break those patterns, we kind of have to go to the root, which is the the question you originally asked me is what what's what's in the brain that's keeping them from having what they want, and it's usually about self worth and shame. You're muted, hon. So when somebody starts to work with you would you just kind of give us an example of how you help them walk through these difficult things that they may have may be challenged Yeah.

How how do you help them walk through that? Well, first of all, it's a getting to know you process. It's a me getting to know them and them getting to know themselves again. And so it's a lot of questions and it's a lot of talking.

Like, I'm listening. I am listening with ears that they may not even have. Like, I might come back and I'll say, did you recognize what you just said? And they're like, no.

And then I said, you've said this five times. So I'm looking for patterns. That's our human existence. It's it's it's a a constellation of patterns and replays.

And so I'm looking to listen to that. And in order to get that from somebody, I have to see them in an environment. Sometimes I go to the place where they work. Sometimes I go to their home to see how they operate in their home.

But I'm listening and I'm taking lots of notes, copious notes on things that they've said, energies that they they're portraying, their electrical current. I can sense that. And then I might go right away to help them release some of that stuck emotion. We'll do tapping or we might do, meridian release right away so that the more that we can release it, the more opening that can happen.

And if the more opening happens, then, the truth will come up, will bubble up. More and more truth will bubble up. So it's a process. It's a it's like a little tussle.

Sometimes it's a tussle, you know, and getting to know somebody. It's not straightforward. Take some time. Catherine, you're laughing.

I can see how that that can be a tussle. So here's my question. And when we first started, mentioned you how you helped to release this from people's organs and I would love our audience to understand that piece of it because not everyone understands that while you're going through this process this is not just sitting in a therapist office talking about it that could maybe create more of the trauma back in the body you're actually helping them to put that the eye on what is actually being said and you're hearing what they're saying but then you're helping them to release it.

How do you get that to release from the organs? Yeah so first of all identifying what they're actually feeling is really important. Most of the time we go like this I feel pissed or I feel happy or I feel sad or, you know, I'm feeling depressed or I'm feeling anxious or I'm feeling overwhelmed or I'm feeling, like my world is crazy. It's just how it was the language that they use.

So I will help them expand how they really feel, and then we can figure out what direction we wanna go to because we know through Chinese medicine, traditional Chinese medicine, that the organs hold the Qi and the Qi is energy and the Qi is emotionality as well. So for example, the liver and the gallbladder hold anger, frustration, aggravation, aggression, betrayal, stubbornness. So that's where that and that's just one place. Then there's all these meridians that are not something that you can identify on a PET scan or a CAT scan or an MRI, but these are energetic meridians.

These are aligning with other, places in the body. So let's say we started the liver and it may go for up into the face, into the mouth, into the jaw area. And so if I know someone's holding anger as an example, I can help them release it from the liver and the gallbladder on the regular. You know, it takes time to release all of it.

That means they must feel it, not just think it. They must be feeling it, and then they release it. And then we might go to other areas. Like I have a client who grinds her teeth at night.

I have a a client who snores at night, who gets very poor sleep. And so we'll go to the face, we'll go to the spine at the very top of the back of the neck at the Atlas and C1 and C2 and we'll do different exercises. I'll give them recommendations and I can do this. I don't have to be in person with them, but we can do this and we're going to the patterns that where the body holds on to certain, emotions and stories.

You know what blows my mind is you come from the world of the medical world and you have all this knowledge of what so when you just mentioned about the grinding of the teeth and snoring and all of that those are actual things that are caused because of whether they be stuck emotions or feelings or ways in which we're processing information in our brain is that what I'm hearing you say? Well, yeah, I'm gonna challenge the audience to think what if and as I said, all roads lead back to us.

Right? So all roads come back to us. What if those stuck emotions, there's a a very real possibility that they inform the rest of the body and the rest of the body has either ease or dis ease of some sort or dysfunction of some sort based on those old imprinted stories that we may think it has to do with right now this job situation or my money situation or my my, you know, wounded knee situate situation. But it's when we work together, I'm bringing you back to the inception.

I'm bringing you back to the very first or second or third time that you started to feel that way, unworthy, unheard, unseen, disconnected, not connect you know, not loved, abused, bullied, all those things that has happened and they might be small. You know, it's not like everybody has trauma per se or they're they've been abused or or, assaulted. It's not always that, but I will help them find and I and connect to those old patterns that now are informing the body today. You know, the the the liver and the gallbladder are not separate a separate island.

It's connected to the digestive tract. So how many people who are have chronic anger, chronic frustration, have trouble with their digestion? It's connected to the stomach. It's connected to the pancreas.

It's connected to the small bowel. You know, a lot of times we have small bowel issues. We have celiac. We have wheat gluten insensitivity.

We have lactose intolerance. We have lots of stuff that are going on. Then we have, you know, we could have trouble like IBS. We could have trouble with elimination.

Like, do we eliminate? Is it diarrhea? Is it constipation? Is it am I struggling?

Does the does the body hold on to the nutrients the way that it does? Again, I've also studied functional medicine. So I understand the biochemistry of what happens when we don't hold on to the right nutrients. With the microbiome, right?

We have probiotics, prebiotics. There's a lot of things that go into healing a client. And I partner with, I don't do all of that, but I do partner with people that can help in different angles and different areas. But I do know how the body is meant to be working.

So let's say somebody's working with you. Do they ever get to a point where they're actually in what you would consider to be healed or have been able to grow through the process that you help them grow through but then is there a point where they're actually able to learn how to do some things on their own so that they can be, what do you call it independent? Yeah helping themselves. That's a great question.

Absolutely there is absolutely I'm not again I was once in a therapy room in a group therapy. This was years ago, decades ago, with people who were in therapy for twenty four years, nine years, eighteen years with the same group. I think that is an atrocity. I'm sorry to tell you.

That to me is horrible, horrific, and I would never do it. What I do is I I work with the clients, and will set them free. I work then they'll come back like a butterfly. They'll come back.

Oh, you know what? There's some more area that I I'm tussling with. I wanna I wanna go through this particular area. So yeah.

So it may take, I don't know. It's it's all sort of subjective to the client, you know, what what they may need in this moment. I have a client right now. I'm working with her and her husband on their marriage and the whole environment now for eighteen months, and it's beautiful.

And she goes away for a few weeks, and then she'll come back. So it's not like it's always immersion. And now she has tools. And so now she's shrinking the distance.

The goal is always that you're shrinking the distance that you're staying in old story. It's not always that the story is gonna be gone away and wiped away clean. It's that, oh, now it's only lasting two minutes, where before it was lasting, you know, two months. It was lasting years.

So now we can go, oh, I recognize where that came from. Oh, wait a second, which tool do I want to use? And then that person has the agency and the power to pull it in and do it themselves or if they just want to run it by me. I just had a client who I worked with for quite some time, few months.

And then she said, you know what, we'll take a break and let me go out there and see how I can utilize these tools. And she just messaged me and she said, you know what? I need I need to come back to you. And I said, okay, let's get started.

It's not a problem. We'll do one session and then we'll see how it feels. And then we might do two or three depending on what the client needs. But absolutely, I want them to test themselves.

I want them to practice. It's all about practice. I'm not the solution. I facilitate a solution that's right for the client.

But, it takes a lot of practice. I always say this, would you get on a soccer field and expect to kick a goal, a field goal, just out of the blue without practice, without, you know, working with the team, without understanding strategy, without being in a game, would you be able to successfully do that? Probably not. Definitely not.

Right. Or can you can you shoot a a three pointer on the basketball court without a lot of practice. No, we need to put in the reps. And so what is so great about my approach to coaching is first we're going to identify where the areas of struggle are, then we're going to go in and clear it out.

Then we're practice and I'm going to be right by your side while you're practicing. I'm going to hold you accountable so that we can tweak it. Two degrees here, two degrees there. We're going to just like a golf swing or a tennis swing.

You've got coaches that are looking at videos, replays, same with free free throws. I mean, you're looking at the arc. You're looking at the the way that you're holding the ball, the palm of the hand. You're looking at all those things, the position of the feet.

That's what I'm doing with my clients. When I'm listening to them up, we need to tweak this a little bit more and get a better to get a better result. And then they go and fly. I would love for you to give us an example because here's the thing most people don't know what they don't know right?

Correct. Give us an example of someone who just had a beautiful moment and obviously you have you have many to pull from but just someone who you were just so proud that it was like this moment that was like got it you know yeah yeah yeah so I I'm thinking of the client that I just mentioned that I've been working with for eighteen months and you know this is an individual who has had trauma in her life and this last call in fact we were talking and for someone to be able to who, you know, couldn't necessarily, let's say go out into a crowd of people because they would go into a panic attack or shut down.

And that means that she can't connect with her spouse. She can't connect with her kids. They can't go and enjoy life. Right?

So she normally would shut down and then spiral. Right? So this win, this huge win was she knew in advance that this was going to potentially trigger her. And I know this sounds this may sound ridiculous, but so many people have they're like they're like deaf and blind.

They can't even see. They just are like, okay. Let's go to the parks. I'm going to go to the parks or I'm going go here.

I'm going to go there and all of a sudden it just swallows them whole. Right? And what she was able to do was to identify what she would need in advance. That meant good sleep, good hydration, conversation, like a an understanding with her family.

I mean, to me, that is an enormous amount of practice and it's an enormous amount of adjustment and he and and forgiveness of the way she used to be. Forgiveness of the situation from the past, like the trauma that she experienced that caused her to be like that as an adult. It took an enormous amount of practice and forgiveness and healing and release for her to be able to stand tall and be able to be the mother that she wants to be, to be the wife that she wants to be, to be the teacher that she wants to be, all of those things.

So that's an moment that's it's not just one sentence, you know. It's a it's a new narrative. It's a whole new paragraph of thoughts and feelings. And so I hope that that answers your question.

It's it's an moment that it's a whole new journey. It's a whole new narrative story. So how do you measure success for yourself and for your clients? That's a great question.

So I look at progress and progress can be like two degrees. It could be a very small amount of progress. Oftentimes, so we start with wins. We we talk a lot about what I call wins, wins in progress.

So to me, I measure success with how how open somebody is to doing the the the reps, how open they are to being with me on, you know, consistently and committed. I don't have it. Not everybody stays. Not everybody stays with me because why?

Because, you know, it's I gotta tell you, they came from seven years of therapy. Oh, it's much different than therapy. They're like, what? I actually have to be I get to you're gonna hold me accountable?

What? That's never happened before. So I look at success if somebody can stay with it. If someone can be authentic and honest.

Like the woman I mentioned two minutes ago, I would I would be able to tell whether or not she was telling herself a lie or she was telling herself a truth. And so when I call somebody out, without her getting defensive, she'd be like, oh my gosh, I didn't realize that I was going there again. I didn't even hear the language that I was using, for example. And my point is that's a huge win for them to be open to hearing it and then shifting it.

I can tell you that a win is when clients message me, when they utilize this format and this framework to actually be present with me. It could be at 10:00 at night. I had a guy. He lives in California.

It was 11:30PM on a Saturday night, and he messaged me, and he was in a dark place. And I got on the phone with him, but that is a huge win, an enormous win because he notices and he also says, need help. That's an enormous win. So while I may not have metrics now, this is this also has happened.

I've helped somebody come in and in ten days, she's quadrupled quadrupled her business. The amount of sales in 10 to it was fourteen days, ten to fourteen days, she was able to do that. Have more clients on her on her calendar and her agenda. Okay.

So huge amounts of, like, metric, like granular results. We can also see that. You know, how many people have people fired, you know, on their team. They fired their team or they brought in and recruited new people.

So the metrics are they vary based on the the customer, know, the client. I love that. You know what? It's it is so interesting how people operate, but I love when you identify you know when you help people identify where they come to you and they say I need help because it's not just like when you're seeing a therapist and going through the story all over again you're actually helping people identify when they need to come and seek help in those moments that they normally and a lot of times will just kind of go back to behaving in the same way but when you can personally identify what's happening and the fact that you do need help with the client that you give us the example so many people continue to stay stuck in the story right so so in doing that how you're able to help people align you always say that the you know as you've been saying that leads yourself the story it's always back to yourself so when you're helping people to identify this what do you do when they're when you're working with a couple and then there's one that continues to work with you and one that chooses not to how do you then navigate through that process when when not all parties are willing to do the work?

Well, it's very similar to what we were talking about earlier on about leadership. It's about self leading and shifting your own pattern of behavior to get a different result from the people you're working with. It could be a team. It could be a teenager.

It could be a spouse. You don't I don't often need to work with everybody. I need to work, and that person needs to be, you know, really aware that they're creating their reality. We create our reality.

That's what I mean when I say all roads lead back to you. So in other words, whatever we get in our outcomes, whatever we're experiencing in our world right now, we have power and agency to shift it, to heal it, you know, heal those stories and to get different and new results. So it's not just about money, results, goals, results, whatever. It could be deeply rooted intimate relationships can change by changing the language, by releasing the old stuck emotions, by practicing and doing the reps and and then clear clarifying the boundaries.

What's a yes and what's what's a yes and what's a no. That doesn't mean that people have to get divorced. That doesn't mean that relationships won't work out. That doesn't mean that you have to kick out your child, from your home.

But it what it does mean is you're using language in a new way where you're saying you know what, that's not going to work for me anymore as I'm healing. As I'm healing, I'm seeing my worth. I'm seeing my value. I'm no longer gonna play in that in that playground with you.

I love you. You know, I I encourage you to, you know, figure it out for yourself, get some help, get a coach, what have you, work with me work with Tina, what have you, but it's really about that person. That leads back to each of us valuing ourselves. Correct.

Agree. And so then that's correct. Again, where the road leads back to oneself. All roads lead back to us, honestly.

And, and really, we didn't know what we didn't know. Meaning we may I'll give you I'll give you a personal example. I didn't know by watching my parents, how to be in a in a loving relationship. How many of us had a situation where things were swept under the rug?

Where that we're watching people to you know, a man be passive and the and the wife you know, the the father being passive and the mother being like a sergeant in arms. That's a confusing message to a child where there's and oftentimes the man doesn't even know how to nurture the child. So that means there was there was no nurturing in their their upbringing because the mother was so what for whatever reason, feeling stressed, feeling overwhelmed, doing things in ways that prevented connection with their children.

Right? And so it's not we're not trying to villainify, to make villains of of the past, of the situations. It could have been a day a babysitter. It could have been a teacher.

It could have been kids in school. It could have been a principal. It could have been a sister a nun or a priest. It could have been all of that.

We're not trying to make them the villain, but we are trying to recognize where it all came from, And that's a part of us. We did nothing wrong to receive. We came in pure. We got this imprint.

But the question I always ask is, have you learned the lesson already? Have you had enough of that experience? Most of my clients, if they're on a scale of one to 10, I say, how bad do you want better? How bad do you want better?

And if they're a ten, nine or a 10, then we're going. We're going there. I like that. How bad do you want better?

Like how much how how how ready are you? I have some like I told you, have some people who are like, I'm not really ready for this. I'm not ready for the accountability with you. Accountability is the step right before results.

Okay? And most people don't get new results because they don't have anybody holding them accountable and they don't hold themselves accountable. Why? Because they don't trust themselves.

Why? Because they don't know themselves and they're people pleasing out the wazoo. Accountable people's lasers in the world. Totally.

That's one of the things that even myself I knew that you know growing up and at a lot of times that that can be from just even the way that you're grown you grow up and or where you are in the line of children and all of that where you you know tend to fall into that. So how do you personally keep yourself like what is what is something that you would say is a daily habit for you to be able to keep yourself in good alignment in order to be able to help your clients? Yeah, that's such a great, that's such a great question.

So when I first started coaching, was like a wreck. I was like, I was an absolute wreck. Every day I was miserable. I was taking on everybody's emotions.

I was frustrated and angry and and all of that. Like it was just it was overwhelming to me and I had to learn how to get blank. I had to learn between each client. And now it happens during the the actual session.

I don't hold any of that energy. So to come to the the question you asked me, so now I can see four, five, six clients in a day or I can do a whole group, a whole room without feeling overwhelmed, my own body feeling overwhelmed. So I need to make sure that I'm hydrated. I need to make sure that I sleep well and I honor my sleep patterns and I listen to my body.

I need to make sure that I'm breathing and deep breathing often, throughout the day. I can take, you know, four deep breaths and that will cleanse any energies that I don't want to have with me or that'll get me re centered. I do my meditation. That was one thing I was going to talk about was meditation.

Meditation is here's what meditation is everybody for your listeners. All meditation is is for us to separate ourselves from the the chaos that we call thoughts and thinking. Is to separate ourselves from the thoughts and just observe them like they're balloons, and then that we let them pass. So we can do that through a meditative place where we're having a guided meditator walk us through this process where we're focusing on other things.

We can do meditation by journaling because we're really dumping what our thoughts are on paper answering prompts. So I do all those things. All those things on the regular. So that's something that you're not just telling your your clients to do but you're actually doing that as well.

Right. I love that. And so for those who have a tough time of stillness what advice would you give them to just quiet the mind and to be still because so many times you think that in the doing is where you're getting you're gonna get the best results what advice would you give them in in that thought process that's a great question I think the place to begin is the breath The place to begin to begin is if you can take in through the nose for three counts, hold for two counts, exhale for six with the mouth like you're blowing out candles.

So in through the nose, really let that diaphragm work that muscle, that pump that's underneath your rib cage, make it make it work and push out your belly. But if you can start with that breath and you can be three in hold for two out out for twice as long for six. What does that mean? It can't just be and stop.

No. It's a in and a push. You push far longer. You practice that four of those in a minute, you're going to start to learn how to be still.

That's really great advice. I love that. Thank you for sharing that. Yeah.

So what is your vision for the next few years and for your business, for yourself? That's a good question. So my vision is to be touching thousands more lives. Like right now my primary practice is you know I'm I'm one on one, I do workshops, I do speak but I am now looking to reach thousands, tens of thousands of women and men.

I love that. Through through speaking, mostly through speaking I have a book that's I'm working on right now and that's exciting so I'll have that and have the message in that. There's accompanying journals with that as well so that's going to be fun to see how people are utilizing them and see where I can place the book in the journal. You know, like I have ideas all around it's all around the world where this this book and this journal are gonna be found so that people can have access to them.

So it's very exciting to be able to touch lives, more lives in the next two to five years. Now one other thing that you do is you do the retreats. Yes. So let's talk a little bit about that and why would somebody want to come to one of these retreats that you hold?

So what's awesome about a retreat is it really forces people and women in particular who tend to come to the retreats that we do that I do and I partner with my partners to to create, is to have women choose themselves, to have women take a time out. Again, can a woman do a minute long or a ninety second or a hundred and twenty seconds of a time out? Absolutely. And that's where you begin.

But to invest in a longer time out that you that you believe you deserve, it's life changing. The things that we are able to do and and teach in those moments where that person remember is open and ready and I'm a 10 out of 10, a nine out of 10. I want how bad do I want better? I'm ready for that.

And by the way, you can you can install. I mean, we we can install new self care routines for ourselves. Right? And one of them might be, you know, red light therapy.

One of them might be a regular massage. One of them might be red regular cranial sacral therapy. One of them might be, reg routine. I go to retreats twice a year or three times a year because that's part of my self care regimen, not just my facial routine at night or in the morning.

So part of, you know, retreats are I take time for myself at any time. So it's a mini vacation for you to come back to self. So that's what that's what a retreat is all about. Well now that you mentioned that do you tell do you show people how to actually put those kinds of things on the calendar for themselves so that it's not just a fleeting thought that it's something that's actual every year that this is the time that I'm taking for me?

Yes we talk about that and that's in the vision boarding process you know like how do we cast a vision well what do we do how do we goal set I think what's powerful is we offer masterminds following a retreat or following a summit. I I I have masterminds running all the time and what's a mastermind? It's a once a week way for women to come for an hour and give time back to themselves and do the practice and do the reps. So it's not just like this burst for a retreat and then I don't talk to you for two years and then maybe I'll go to a retreat again, you know.

Or it's not just the consumption. Today we're in a in a in a you know, our, environment, our, you know, the country is and the the world is consumerism. What can I consume? What can I take in?

But that doesn't mean it's transformative. Just because you took it in, it doesn't mean it's transformative. How do you make it transformative? You hold yourself and and have a community that helps hold you accountable and calls you out regularly so that you can be accountable and then get results accountable and get results.

And all that time, you're building new you're building new self awareness and you're building self trust to be bigger than ever so that when the winds come and the hurricane comes, you are not shaken. When a situation comes like let's say you have a strong marriage, but all of a sudden now a diagnosis comes. It won't shake your marriage. You know, maybe a job loss comes on the other side or something.

It won't shake your marriage because you are grounded. You are deeply rooted in your truth in your authentic self and your genuine self. Know what your yeses are, know what your nose are. And yes, I help people like align with that decision making.

3nine Throughout the year, you know what, Dina, this has been amazing. And I know that our audience has definitely gotten well, you know, I what I love is that you said that there's a follow-up to the retreat. It's not just retreat because so many times we do we go away, you get that, you know, the great feeling warm fuzzy feeling during that time but then you go back to regular life so I love the idea of a mastermind that follows up you know from that point so that you're able to continue that throughout the year So that's beautiful.

That's very mindful. Yes. Do that. Well only because I did it.

I spent tens of thousands of dollars going here, going there, going to this summit, this workshop and then I would get back into real life and the environment that I was living in made it very difficult for me to see and hear and be centered onto myself. And so okay how do we I wasn't growing new neural pathways right I wasn't creating a new nervous system okay well how do I do that for my for the people the lives I'm touching well it's going to be on a regular basis. That's beautiful I love that so let me ask you everybody has enjoyed our conversation they enjoyed getting to know who Dina is how she serves the world and you're looking to do some really big amazing things and I love that about you about you so now with that how would our audience find you do business with you and you know and just reach out to you.

Yes I think the easiest way to do that is to go to my website which is Dina B Coaching so it's denabasinboycoaching.com and you can you know a great place to see you know some podcasts with me to get a deeper understanding of my style and you can set up a discovery call. Awesome. And it's a free discovery call.

It's you know somewhere between thirty, forty five, sometimes sixty minutes and I pour right into you. You get what you need in that moment. You really get a lot of value and it's free. It's a free discovery session and it gives you a sense of you know whether or not this is the right fit for you at this time.

So if you wanted to leave our audience on Beyond Business podcast with something what would that be? Something that they could just walk away with and say wow thank you. Yeah I mean all I said it but all roads lead back to you to each of us and you deserve to get the care that you need, and you deserve to get the support and the accountability partner that you deserve and and need right now. So all roads lead back to you.

What what you're in your life is a result of you, your energy, your vibration, your thoughts, your feelings, your stuck old stuck beliefs. So all roads lead back to you. Well, I look forward to people reaching out to you Dina because you know what all roads lead back to if all roads lead back to me then if each of us understood that that was truth and that's reality then why not help be the creators of what we really want in our lives right because we are creators and so thank you you are so right Katherine you are the creator we are the creators and the ripple effect goes on for generations that's legacy so we've I'm gonna I'm gonna just throw that last thing out there is that is legacy and what I what I love is that you're you're actually helping us to realize that we can have the legacy that we envision by helping to overcome some of these things and even sometimes those stories and re shifting because sometimes you don't really even realize that you're telling yourself a story so love our audience to just you know remind themselves of that and then be able to reach out to you Dina so thank you so much this has been an amazing thank you Katherine thank you so much for having me and so thank you all for being with us here today again this is Catherine your host for the Beyond Business podcast excited to have had Dina Breslin with us here today and hopefully you were able to take out many nuggets and you have the ability to reach out to her for that free discovery call.

Thank you so much for another day.

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