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65 episodes · publishes monthly · latest 2026-06-10 · ~27 min/episode
Rank
#1527
Substance
69.8
/ 100
Breakdown
Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly
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#1527 of 6182
Substance
Top 25%
outscores 75% of the index
Retail Intel ranks #1527 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 69.8 out of 100, scored across 5 recent episodes. It scores highest on guest caliber and specificity & evidence. Brady Carlsen is a relevant and operational guest - he's a co-founder and COO who has built Back Nine from acquisition to ~80 locations and 100 franchises sold, representing actual scaling execution. He speaks from firsthand operational experience (managing the facility daily early on, franchise vetting, real estate decisions). However, he is not a household name or recognized thought leader in franchising or retail real estate, and the episode doesn't establish him as exceptional within his domain relative to other successful multi-unit operators.
Averaged across 5 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.
The episode contains moderate insight density with some valuable operational details (AUVs of $360-400K, 2,500 sq ft sweet spot, three-bay standard model) and strategic decisions (no F&B, membership-first model, 24/7 access with automated entry). However, much of the content is narrative filler about Brady's career journey (window washing, medical school, senior care) that, while personable, doesn't serve a B2B operator learning about the back-nine model itself. The discussion of technology and future innovations (Skill Strike, AI coaching) is interesting but high-level and lacks depth on implementation or ROI.
“our standard base size is three bays. So you're looking at about thirty thousand dollars a month, so you know, three hundred and sixty to four hundred thousand dollars AUV”
“we want to keep a small footprint, and again, we're attracting the avid golfer that wants to improve”
The core positioning - BYOB model, no F&B, membership-focused, 24/7 access, semi-passive ownership - is sensible but not particularly novel in the franchise or experiential retail space. The strategic reasoning is sound (keep overhead low, target serious golfers, simplify operations) but amounts to standard operational discipline rather than fresh thinking. The Skill Strike feature and AI coaching are mentioned but presented as upcoming rather than current innovations, and the episode doesn't articulate a distinctive competitive thesis beyond execution fundamentals.
“don't have to have employees, you're not managing food and beverage, you're not running a restaurant essentially. It's just golf and it's very simple”
“we identified early on and tested here locally, and uh it worked, so that's what we stuck with”
Brady Carlsen is a relevant and operational guest - he's a co-founder and COO who has built Back Nine from acquisition to ~80 locations and 100 franchises sold, representing actual scaling execution. He speaks from firsthand operational experience (managing the facility daily early on, franchise vetting, real estate decisions). However, he is not a household name or recognized thought leader in franchising or retail real estate, and the episode doesn't establish him as exceptional within his domain relative to other successful multi-unit operators.
“I was the only one here with boots on the ground. So I was going over the facility every day, managing it”
“co-founder and chief operating officer of the Back Nine Golf”
The episode includes concrete numbers: 80 locations, 100 franchises sold, $30K/month per bay, $360-400K AUV, 2,500-3,500 sq ft sweet spot, 25-55 age demographic, 2-3 golfing sessions per week target. However, these figures lack supporting detail (no breakdown by location age, no cohort performance data, no franchisee retention/failure rates, no cost structure). Technology claims (Skill Strike, AI coaching, Full Swing capabilities) are asserted without metrics. The lack of specificity on competitor positioning, market sizing, or unit economics beyond AUV limits evidence density.
“our standard base size is three bays. So you're looking at about thirty thousand dollars a month, so you know, three hundred and sixty to four hundred thousand dollars AUV”
“typically, people that have their own clubs, they're golfing two or three times a week”
Host Brian Sheehan asks coherent, topical questions but rarely pushes for depth or challenges assumptions. Follow-ups are surface-level (e.g., 'talk about that' on F&B strategy) and mostly accept Brady's answers at face value. The host allows extended personal narrative early (Brady's career background) without steering back to operational substance. There are no questions on franchisee failure rates, competitive threats from TopGolf or Tracer or other emerging players, or detailed financials. Conversational tone is collegial but lacks the friction or skepticism that would elevate substantive dialogue.
“What was it that you liked about full swing? Why it can you talk generally, kind of at a high level”
“Can you talk about uh AUVs for a Back Nine? What's typical?”
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2026-06-10
First period on the Index - history builds from here.
10 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.
Ep. 65: Pilates Addiction
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Ep. 64: Back Nine Golf
2026-02-25 · 27 min
Ep. 63: FACE FOUNDRIÉ
2025-11-11 · 26 min
Ep. 62: Quesadilla Gorilla
2025-10-24 · 29 min
Ep. 61: The Acres
2025-09-26 · 42 min
Ep. 60: L&L Hawaiian Barbecue
2025-08-18 · 26 min
Ep. 59: Mazunte
2025-07-14 · 28 min
Ep. 58: Amber Waves
2025-06-16 · 44 min
Ep. 57: X-Golf
2025-06-05 · 32 min
Ep. 56: Sit Still Kids Salon
2025-05-07 · 34 min
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