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MSP 1337

Hosted by Chris Johnson | Cybersecurity Education & Security Guidance

Educational sound bytes to help MSPs and their clients navigate Cybersecurity. Cybersecurity maturity is a journey; don't go it alone. Interviews and guidance from fellow MSPs and other Industry experts. Our goal is Secure Outcomes, and together we can make a difference.

314 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-11-03 · ~31 min/episode

Rank

#3034

Substance

63.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Ops rank

#244 of 460

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Across the index

#3034 of 6219

Substance

Top 49%

outscores 51% of the index

Why it scores where it does

MSP 1337 ranks #3034 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 63.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Jim Harriman is a genuine small-MSP operator who has run a security program for nearly a decade and completed six SOC 2 Type 2 audits - actual practitioner credibility. However, he operates at a small, unnamed scale with no verifiable market impact, and the host functions as a peer rather than an interviewer, limiting the depth that a stronger guest interrogation might unlock.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

13.0 / 20

The episode contains a handful of practical operational observations - policy length norms, review cadence standards, and integrating a security program into EOS meeting rhythms - but most of the runtime is consumed by meandering anecdote, generic platitudes about process vs. tools, and conversational throat-clearing. The useful content is real but sparse relative to 43 minutes.

“the best investment to me is not a product or a service or a tool. It's a process”

“mature policies are very distinct at, uh, two to four pages”

Originality

11.0 / 20

The episode recycles well-worn MSP conventional wisdom - tools are over-relied upon, process beats product, leadership buy-in matters, accountability requires external parties. The one mildly interesting angle is weaving a security program into an EOS cadence, but it is mentioned briefly and without real depth. Nothing is contrarian or first-principles.

“we've taken an EOS approach to, To a lot of our. To a lot of our, uh, evidence collection”

“nobody has to do this in our, in our industry. I mean they, they, they probably should if they want to survive another decade”

Guest Caliber

15.0 / 20

Jim Harriman is a genuine small-MSP operator who has run a security program for nearly a decade and completed six SOC 2 Type 2 audits - actual practitioner credibility. However, he operates at a small, unnamed scale with no verifiable market impact, and the host functions as a peer rather than an interviewer, limiting the depth that a stronger guest interrogation might unlock.

“actually just completed our, like, sixth Sock 2 audit”

“we've been doing this for almost a decade now”

Specificity & Evidence

12.0 / 20

There are a handful of concrete specifics - six SOC 2 audits, 20 - 25 monthly review items, 12-month review frequency as a framework norm, one-to-two page policies with data governance at five pages - but no dollar figures, no named client examples, no measurable outcomes, and no external data citations. Claims like 'if you use more than 10% of it, you're in the elite category' are stated without any evidence.

“if you use more than 10% of it, you're in the elite category”

“there's like 20 to 25 of those things that we're going through”

Conversational Craft

12.0 / 20

The host adds structural value by proposing a maturity model (initial/developing/established/optimized) and drawing useful distinctions like policy length and review cadence, but he rarely challenges Jim's assertions and the conversation drifts frequently into loose analogies and filler. The episode closes with an off-topic exchange about fiction novels, underscoring the lack of editorial discipline.

“How do I bluntly put this in a nice way?”

“if I was really dialing in a. An accountability tool, that the initial piece of the. Have I filled in my answers”

Standout episodes

  • Measuring What Matters in Cybersecurity Maturity

    2026-06-30

    63

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • Measuring What Matters in Cybersecurity Maturity

    2026-06-30 · 43 min

    63 / 100

Frequently asked

What is MSP 1337's substance score?
MSP 1337 scores 63.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #3034 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 51% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #244 of 460 in Ops. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is MSP 1337 worth listening to?
Yes - MSP 1337 outscores 51% of the B2B ops podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a ops operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts MSP 1337?
MSP 1337 is hosted by Chris Johnson | Cybersecurity Education & Security Guidance.
How often does MSP 1337 publish?
MSP 1337 publishes weekly, has 314 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-11-03.
Which MSP 1337 episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Measuring What Matters in Cybersecurity Maturity" (63/100) - a good place to start.

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Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

Kinetic Technology GroupMSP 1337SOC 2ITILCISGTIA

Guests who've appeared

Jim Harriman

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Change managementCIS ControlsKinetic Technology GroupSOC 2 Type 2 auditsITIL frameworksKnowledge base documentationPSA systems and ticketingPolicy review frequencyTrust Mark certificationGTIA peer groups

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