Mind Yer Business · 2026-06-02 · 19 min
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Substance score
13 / 100
Five dimensions, 20 points each
This episode captures two friends discussing everyday life improvements and personal preferences. Gina shares her first Botox experience with Maria at the Skin Company, while Inger discusses her permanent eyebrow makeup and concerns about under-eye crepiness. The conversation shifts to their work as event planners - both mention running races and community events through their organizations, noting challenges like weather, volunteer coordination, and liability insurance through their nonprofit arm. They tackle fashion frustrations, particularly the difficulty finding well-fitting jeans as trends shift away from skinny fits; Gina struggles with low-rise styles as a petite woman, while Inger debates between skinny jeans and wider leg cuts. The hosts then discuss Stanley water bottles and straw etiquette before pivoting to personal growth. Inger credits therapist and business coach Ashley Jangro with helping her adopt a "no problem until there's a problem" philosophy, explaining how people create anxiety-inducing stories in their heads rather than addressing real issues. Gina counters with her own win: stopping caring what others think. The episode closes with vacation plans - Gina heading to Nashville, Michigan wineries, and hosting grandkids; Inger planning Oslo, Copenhagen, and Colombia, including unique experiences like a wood-fired sauna barge and a houseboat Airbnb.
Find a skilled practitioner who knows your face and makes you feel comfortable; Gina recommends Maria at the Skin Company. Results take about two weeks to appear, and it's best to avoid overfrozen looks that prevent natural expression.
Adopt an "no problem until there's a problem" mindset - don't create anxiety-inducing stories in your head about what might go wrong. Business coach Ashley Jangro emphasizes that we often extrapolate negative scenarios without evidence.
Denim trends constantly shift between skinny, wide-leg, and boot-cut styles, and fit varies by height and waistline preference. Gina notes that as a petite woman, even "low rise" jeans sit too high on her frame.
Obtain event liability insurance, often through a nonprofit arm (like Gina and Inger's Change Lives organization). Retain volunteers by offering free food, drinks, and free race entry the following year.
You avoid creating negative stories about their behavior (like assuming a rude driver is intentionally aggressive) and preserve your own peace; they may be rushing to the hospital or dealing with a crisis.
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
The episode is dominated by personal gossip and lifestyle chat with virtually no actionable insights for B2B operators. The only substantive business content is a brief mention of event planning challenges (insurance, volunteers, safety), but it's superficial and not explored in depth. The vast majority is beauty routines, jeans shopping, vacation planning, and personal anecdotes.
I really have adopted this policy of there's no problem until there's a problem
The main thing we care about mostly is that nobody gets hurt
No original thinking present. The episode recycles banal observations about Botox, fashion trends, and personal development platitudes (not worrying what others think). The 'no problem until there's a problem' philosophy is generic advice repackaged, and the straw-wrinkles tangent is trivial.
I really have adopted this policy of there's no problem until there's a problem
Caring what other people think
Speaker B (Gina Anguiano) appears to be a friend/co-host rather than a guest, and while she runs events and mentions being an event planner, there's no evidence of significant scale or expertise. She's positioned as a peer in a casual chat, not a practitioner brought on for deep expertise. The episode promises a 'special guest' for next week but delivers none here.
I'm Gina Anguiano
Well, that's what we do. We're event planners
Almost no concrete data, metrics, or named examples. References to 'two feet of snow on St. Patrick's Day' and '98 degrees in a parking lot' are anecdotal. The event planning discussion lacks specifics on volume, revenue, costs, or outcomes. Vacation plans and beauty treatments are listed but devoid of business-relevant numbers.
it snows two feet on, ah, St. Patrick's Day, Saturday
it was literally, like, 98 degrees
Host asks surface-level follow-up questions but rarely pushes back or dig deeper. When Gina mentions event planning, the host asks cursory questions about what's gone wrong and volunteers, but doesn't probe into operational challenges, financials, scaling issues, or mistakes. Questions are friendly but lack intellectual rigor. No productive disagreement or challenging of claims.
What are some of the things that have gone wrong with your events?
How do you get all your volunteers?
Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.
In episode five, Inger and Gina get into beauty routines, Botox first impressions, permanent brow makeup, the great skinny jeans debate, and why nobody can quit their Stanley cup. They also cover event planning war stories, Colorado weather disasters, and the mindset shift that changed how Inger handles stress: there is no problem until there is a problem. Travel plans round out the episode. Inger is headed to Oslo, Copenhagen, and Colombia. Gina is going to Nashville and Michigan wine country. Next week brings the first ever guest on Mind Your Business.
Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.
Speaker A: Welcome to you, Gina.
Speaker B: I'm Gina Anguiano.
Speaker A: I'm Inger Hiller.
Speaker B: And let's get started.
Speaker A: Let's get started. Mind your business. All right, let's fill her up. Another episode. Another mimosa. And shout out to, uh, the Kirkland Prosecco, which is delicious. Who needs anything more? All right, cheers. Let's. Oh, God, it's about to spill.
Speaker B: Yeah, well, I was late this morning.
Speaker A: Why were you late?
Speaker B: Well, because I was getting ready, and I was going slow, and so I don't know.
Speaker A: What do you mean you were getting ready and going slow?
Speaker B: I was just having a slow morning because we had to start early, and
Speaker A: I'm like, oh, I know everything out
Speaker B: of me to get here, and it doesn't take me long to get ready. Does it take you long to get ready?
Speaker A: Well, it depends. Well, I would say, in general, no, I think it takes me less time than the average bear. But, uh, what do you do to get ready?
Speaker B: My hair takes forever. It's just long and thick, and that's, like, one of my things. But I don't know. I.
Speaker A: Well, hair is your thing, I would say. You go back and I've known you a long time. You go back and forth between the shorts and the long, short years.
Speaker B: Well.
Speaker A: But now you did it not that long ago.
Speaker B: Probably four years ago.
Speaker A: I guess I just know you a long time.
Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker A: Why don't you do short anymore?
Speaker B: I don't know. Because I need it. I want it. I like it. Um. Yeah. And honestly, when I go get my hair done, the girl that used to do my hair, I would tell her, what do you think I should do? Should I cut it and leave it grow? And she would always tell me to let it grow.
Speaker A: All right, well, I ended up cutting it, and, uh, I have not looked back. I actually think I do better with short hair. It's easier to do also. But I do like your long hair. For the record, I think you got a good look.
Speaker B: I feel like for me, having short hair was harder because I had to do it. I couldn't throw it up. I can at least throw my hair up now.
Speaker A: That's good.
Speaker B: That's. But that's just m. Me.
Speaker A: What else do you do? You. So you, uh. So everyone's got their beauty thing that they like to do. So what is your big thing?
Speaker B: Well, funny you ask, because I actually just got Botox for the first time.
Speaker A: First time. All right. Okay. Well, I mean, do you like it? What are your thoughts?
Speaker B: I only got it on Tuesday, so. It hasn't really kicked in.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker B: I think. I don't know, but.
Speaker A: Well, I had some horror stories. I know. With Botox. You remember when I used to do the Jack Nicklaus eyes where, like, the middle was frozen, completely frozen, and then the sides would go up?
Speaker B: No, they went like that.
Speaker A: M. Oh, yeah. I mean, it was a triangle. Yeah, it was crazy. But, you know, it's one of those things that even though it looked insane, I. How much mileage did I get out of those jokes? I mean, I went up to anybody and be like, look at my face. Yeah, this is insane.
Speaker B: That's the first thing you told me.
Speaker A: I was like, all right, well, uh, so we'll see if you like it. I don't know. You know, so basically, when is it you Forever. You decided you didn't want to do it, and what made you decide to go ahead and get that done? I don't know.
Speaker B: I don't even know. I just was like, people will talk about it. And I'm like, okay, maybe I should just go try it and see. But anyway, shout out to Maria at the skin company. She does a great job.
Speaker A: Oh, nice.
Speaker B: But. And she knows. I mean, I feel like you sit there, Maria just. She knows your face, you know, she just makes you feel comfortable.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: Not a big deal. Just knows exactly what to do. So we'll see how the results are in two weeks.
Speaker A: All right. All right. Well, yes. Uh, I've been doing it a little bit more regularly lately. But you can see. I mean, not everyone can see. You can just hear. But, uh, I don't have a frozen face. Yeah, I don't want a frozen face. I still have, like, some wrinkles because I can't have frozen face.
Speaker B: I don't want that either.
Speaker A: But, uh, my most recent thing that I've been doing that I think is fantastic is the brows. I love the permanent makeup on the brows because you just get. You just get up, and you just go. And they're ready, and you don't need it because you've got perfect brows already. But for some of us who tweeze the hell out of them in the 90s, I did. Yeah, Well, I mean, I don't know. They grew back for you. Not for me. It's just one little silly line up above my eyes. So I love the permanent makeup on the brows. Um, and, you know, just recently, I've been looking under my eyes and hating the crepiness under my eyes, and so I'm starting to panic about that. What'd you say?
Speaker B: Go see Maria.
Speaker A: All right. Well, I don't know. I've never done anything. Um, but, uh, everyone's got their thing that starts to bother them, you know. But.
Speaker B: Well, I feel like for me, like, I see that you have your nails done. I have not done my nails in a long time. And you know what? Every time I do them and they. I peel them off, I'm terrible at it, but I peel them off and then I feel like my nails are ruined for, like, a good three months.
Speaker A: Oh, yeah, for sure. Well, because I do the gel nails. Yeah. And then. Same. Same as soon as you take it off. You mean you just have to wait till the whole nail grows out basically before you can do anything. But some people do other stuff.
Speaker B: But, uh, I do like pedicures.
Speaker A: M. Well, you're always in sandals, so you have to have your feet looking
Speaker B: sharp after all the snow. I wasn't. Oh.
Speaker A: Uh. Well, were you sad? Yeah. You love to be in sandals. I do, yes.
Speaker B: I love my boots, though, too. So. Just depends.
Speaker A: Yep. Well, speaking of beauty and getting ready, um, in our last episode, we talked about that. We were going to talk a little bit about parties and events. Um, and so, you know, I kind of wanted to hear your thoughts on what type of events you've done, what you, uh, know, your personal events, and if there's any places that you like to go to throw events, you know, what are your thoughts?
Speaker B: Um, I love. Well, that's what we do. We're event planners. I love that.
Speaker A: So you're like, a perfect person to ask this.
Speaker B: Yeah, totally. That's something we. We just. Yeah, we enjoy it. It's like our favorite, um, what do you call that? Jason calls it something. I can't think of it. Passion project kind of thing.
Speaker A: What are some of the things that have gone wrong with your events? Um, I can think of a few for you, but you tell me.
Speaker B: I want to know what you think.
Speaker A: Well, not your fault. You can't help it when it snows two feet on, ah, St. Patrick's Day, Saturday.
Speaker B: God loved us this year. There was no snow this year. So thank you.
Speaker A: I mean, these are the things you can't avoid.
Speaker B: I mean, we. We have a good team. Say we do struggle sometimes with volunteers. The main thing we care about mostly is that nobody gets hurt. Nobody is running on a trail. There's ice or fall trip and fall or. Yeah, that's like our main thing.
Speaker A: Do you have to carry insurance? Oh, yeah. To have these events? Oh, man.
Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
Speaker A: Well. And you have a non Profit arm underneath for unchanged. Slides right above. Oh, above. Sorry.
Speaker B: So change lives as under. Yeah.
Speaker A: Okay. And some of that, like, helps you with this insurance and that type of thing.
Speaker B: Ah.
Speaker A: How do you get all your volunteers?
Speaker B: You know what? We have good friends. We just have good friends and good. I mean, they like what we do. They keep coming back. Like, our team that we have has been with us since the beginning, so they just come to the events, and they love what they do. They know exactly what they're doing. They're at the same spot all the time, and they love it.
Speaker A: So nice.
Speaker B: But when you come to our events and you volunteer with us, you get free food, you get, um, free drinks.
Speaker A: I mean, they get to see you.
Speaker B: Yeah, we get to see me. Yay.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker B: And then if you do that, you can run for free the next race.
Speaker A: Oh, I like it. You know, I can think of sometimes, uh, throwing events, especially, like, client appreciation events that I wouldn't say have gone wrong, but there was one time we had a summer bash, and it was literally, like, 98 degrees, and we were having it in a blacktop parking lot, and I put all these balloons out all over the place, parking lot, on little signs, and after about an hour, they just pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. They all just got too hot. They just got too hot. So it can be tricky. And I don't know if anybody who has dealt with me, I become kind of a. I call myself Eventzilla. Uh, instead of a bridezilla, I'm an Eventzilla. I'm, like, insane. I mean, my kids will tell you that.
Speaker B: I think I've seen that side of
Speaker A: you a little bit. Oh, yes, that's right. That's right. Uh, you've seen that. So. So I get a little crazed, see, and I don't.
Speaker B: I feel like you're always doing. That's why we're a good team, because I'm just like, yeah, you're chill. I'm too old to.
Speaker A: No, you are not. I'm too old to worry anymore.
Speaker B: Care about certain things, and I'm like, ah, it'll work. It'll work out.
Speaker A: It'll work out.
Speaker B: One thing I can't get out of right now is my skinny jeans. I know if you're listening or watching, help me find some good brand or whatever, because my granddaughter makes fun of me. Yeah, I can't get out because they change so much.
Speaker A: Once I know, you know, a good
Speaker B: pair of jeans, and I like them, and then they change again.
Speaker A: Well, it's funny that you say that because just yesterday I went in my skinny jeans to Nordstrom and I was determined, because I've actually been determined to try to find the wide leg jeans and the boot cut jeans, and it's so hard. And I went to Nordstrom and of course I got accosted at the area, the jeans area, where they have like this page and mother brand and things like that. And they're like, oh, all all over me. And I was like, no. Um, and I just thought those were the two expensive jeans. And so I ended up floating back into one of the areas. And I feel like I just kind of went into a mom jean area where the, where the waistband is, like, soft. It's like one step under maternity jeans. Right. But it's like mom jeans. And I found a couple pairs, so I'm testing them out, but I'm with you. I hate. I can't seem to get away from my skinny jeans either.
Speaker B: I can't do high rise. I'm short. So if I do high rise, it probably come up to here to me.
Speaker A: Oh, no.
Speaker B: So I have to do low ris all the time. And even the low rise is like a mid rise, so.
Speaker A: Oh, wow. Okay.
Speaker B: I can't. So that's one thing I can't get out of. All right, somebody fix me.
Speaker A: I don't know what other trends that I haven't followed. Um, I mean, I, I, I tend not to follow too many trends, I guess, but maybe I do. What do you think?
Speaker B: I don't know. That was the one thing I can think of. Like shoes. I mean, what are shoes?
Speaker A: Let's talk about Stanley's for a second. Because. And when I say Stanley, I'm talking about the quintessential water bottle that every single slash teen, uh. Oh, you bringing it over. Let's do it. Exactly. Oh, yours is pretty, though. I know.
Speaker B: You can't find these anywhere. You got me a special one.
Speaker A: Very nice. One thing about the Stanleys, I've never been into them because I'm not a straw person. Like, I don't like a straw. And I will tell you this. I was watching an episode of Hacks. You know this show hacks? It's on HBO. It's about a female comedian that is in her 70s and Jean Smart starts, uh, stars in it, but so she's showing how to, how to drink with a straw. Because when you drink with a straw, you like, uh. Yeah, it makes a billion lines all the way around your mouth.
Speaker B: Do you see my billion lines?
Speaker A: Yeah, it's a Billion lines all the way around your mouth, but they're not deep like wrinkles or anything. But that's how my detox.
Speaker B: There. Next time.
Speaker A: Oh, there you go. But, uh, she was showing on the episode that you have to like, put it all the way in your mouth and you look like a crazy person. Um, and so I don't have to worry about that because I don't use
Speaker B: a straw and you not carry a water bottle.
Speaker A: I do carry a water bott. Well, I didn't bring one today. I guess. I guess I'm a guilty party. But I. I just have the one where you just drink like a normal person.
Speaker B: Oh, not normal, I guess.
Speaker A: All right, Gina, what have you stopped doing in the last year that's made your life better?
Speaker B: What have I stopped doing? Mhm. Caring what other people think.
Speaker A: Oh, well, you kind of alluded to that, I think in our. Back in our second episode. Um, you know, you just can't let the haters get in your. In your head. I'm too tired.
Speaker B: I'm just too tired. I don't have time for that. So.
Speaker A: Yeah, I would say in the last year what I've done differently that's made my life better is I really have adopted this policy of there's no problem until there's a problem. And I really think that if all this energy and all this time and space worried about what might happen if this goes wrong and that goes wrong and like, just like, okay, if a problem occurs, sure, I'll, uh, handle it. I'll figure it out. I'll make it better. Um, but I'm not going to manipulate and create this problem in my head when there is no problem. And one person that helped me with that shout out to Ashley Jangro, who does therapy. Ah. And business coaching. She's actually doing my business coaching. But she talked about how we tend to create stories in our head about something and you know, extrapolating out, you know, what, why we think our friend didn't call us, for example, and go
Speaker B: reading into it, Start reading into it
Speaker A: and like, what is the story you're telling yourself in your head? And it probably has nothing to do with what you're thinking. You know, who knows what happened behind the scenes? You know, she may have forgotten to call you because her sister is sick or, you know, her husband, you know, lost his job and she's dealing with that. And like, so we don't know the story. So we can't create this big story in our head.
Speaker B: Same with somebody on the road who's driving like a crazy person or is driving me super fast.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: You never know if they're rushing to the hospital or. Oh, yeah. I mean, if they cut me off, I give them the benefit of the doubt. I feel like I'm just like, um, you had to.
Speaker A: We have a saying in our car because, you know, road rage is one that could, like, really ruin your day. And you can't let that stuff get in your head. Anytime somebody cuts me off or going crazy fast or does something crazy. J.D. uh, and I say to each other, like, whoa, that guy must have really have to pee.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: Whoa. They really have to pee.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: Because, uh, otherwise, I mean, so let's just give him some grace, not let myself get mad about it, and just keep on doing. Keep on going.
Speaker B: I agree. So do you have events planned for the rest of the year?
Speaker A: You know, yes, I would say I do have some events planned for the rest of the year. I really have had to scale back on some of the events I was planning. I mean, you've. You were part of my group since the day one, um, which from that grew into your group, uh, the Ladies of Castle Rock. So we've been doing this a long, long time. And at the beginning, I was doing way more events. You know, three a week. For example, speaking of events. And we talked about a lot about your nails and your pedicure and your, uh, your sandals. So I assume you like the beach. What are your vacations going to be looking like this year?
Speaker B: First of all, my favorite temperature is 85 degrees.
Speaker A: Oh, too hot?
Speaker B: Nope. It's for the record. For me.
Speaker A: Anyway, we.
Speaker B: Let's see, what are we doing this summer? We have. My kids are coming out, so I'll have grandkids here for the summer, which will be great. Like two weeks out of the. This year, um, we are doing Nashville. We're going to Michigan for. There's like wineries up there in Michigan. If you've never been, it's really pretty up there. I don't know. I've never been, but that's what we have planned.
Speaker A: Wineries, huh? Huh. What's the wine like in. In Michigan?
Speaker B: I don't know. We'll have to see because I've never been. We were just told it's beautiful and we should try it. So.
Speaker A: All right.
Speaker B: How about you?
Speaker A: Oh, well, what I have planned is we're going with the family. We do. We try to do a once a year trip, if we can, out of the country and explore new countries. Um, I'm not much of A beach person. I, um, prefer to like, uh, go somewhere, like, learn the city, kind, um, of do A Day in the Life. And so we're doing, uh, Oslo, Norway. And, and we're going to Copenhagen, Denmark.
Speaker B: That's awesome.
Speaker A: Um, and you know, it's not part of a cruise or anything. I'm not too good on cruises. Uh, I get seasick. Uh, so I don't want to. I don't really love to be on a boat.
Speaker B: So you plan it or does JD plan it?
Speaker A: Well, okay, so it's a combined. We're both excellent planners. I mean, what can I say? I'm mainly the hotel person and JD is the flight person. Um, he always wants to, um, do the flights, find the perfect flights.
Speaker B: That's right. You told me about this. You're doing this thing on a boat or something.
Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. So like, I mean, two big things that we're doing. Okay, so in Oslo, you go out on this like, barge and there's a, uh, sauna, literally like a wood fired sauna on the barge. And we're doing this little, like, float out to the islands in the, uh, fjords, and then you plunge into, so you in the sauna and then you plunge into the water, and then you climb back up and then you get in the sauna and then you get back in the water. I don't know, it just. I've never heard of such a thing. So, uh, I said we had to have to do that. And then when we're in Copenhagen, we're gonna, uh, we rented a houseboat. And I know I said I don't like the water, so I hope, I hope it's not like Rocky, but it's in the bay and you're just on a houseboat, like. Yeah. As the Airbnb. So, um, well, that's a fun experience. Experience.
Speaker B: I mean, yeah, houseboat.
Speaker A: And we never, we never upgrade, uh, the flight. So like the cheapest flight back in the back with the chickens that we can get. And now my. Now JD does not like that. He wishes he had a little more leg room. Even just the leg, extra leg room, seats. And I'm like, now we can, let's save that money and we can spend it on the hotel room. Yeah, I agree. But that's pretty much it. Then. We're going to Colombia in October. I mean, I love Columbia. Anytime I can go to Columbia. Um, I go. We go for a week. We do all the spots. Um, I'll take Sven spot. Oh, you could take Sven's spot. Yeah, I think he might have something to say about that, but, uh. But cool. Well, good to know. And thanks for, um, chatting with me about all your beauty, uh, things that you do.
Speaker B: Um, you know, looking for new pants.
Speaker A: Looking for somebody. Somebody help her. She needs new pants. No, you look fine. Stick with what you got. All right, well, I'm pretty excited about next week.
Speaker B: Me, too.
Speaker A: We have a very special guest joining us for an interview. Um, and it'll be our first episode with a guest, and so I think that's going to be something more to come that we do.
Speaker B: Exactly.
Speaker A: And this person's great.
Speaker B: You'll have to tune in next time to see.
Speaker A: Yes, it's a surprise. And thank you for joining us, and have a great rest of your day. See you next time.
Speaker B: Cheers.
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