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Dance Principals United

Hosted by Amanda Barr & Rebecca Liu-Brennan: Dance Studio Coaches & Growth Experts

Listed under Business, Arts › Performing Arts

Do you want to grow your enrolments, make more profit, and find the time in your business to focus on the things that you love? Join hosts Amanda Barr & Rebecca Liu-Brennan as they share the secrets of their Million Dollar Dance Studios.

100 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-09-24 · ~27 min/episode

Rank

#4678

Substance

52.6

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-09
Updated monthly

Marketing rank

#695 of 992

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Across the index

#4678 of 6203

Substance

Top 75%

outscores 25% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Dance Principals United ranks #4678 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 52.6 out of 100, scored across 5 recent episodes. It scores highest on guest caliber and specificity & evidence. Nathan is presented as a numbers expert working directly with dance studio owners in a membership community (SGC), and the hosts (Amanda and Rebecca) are studio owners themselves with lived experience. They speak from practice rather than theory. However, Nathan's background and credentials are not detailed; he functions more as a coach/facilitator than a senior operator who scaled a major business. The episode lacks external guest diversity or citation of recognized financial frameworks.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 5 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

10.4 / 20

The episode delivers practical, actionable advice on three foundational metrics (student count, class placements, weekly revenue) that many dance studio owners genuinely lack. However, the core insights are relatively straightforward - tracking weekly revenue vs. term billing, understanding revenue vs. profit, and segmenting student cohorts - and the episode spends considerable time on persuasion (overcoming objections, anecdotes) rather than novel frameworks or non-obvious analysis. The revelation about class profitability by fill rate is solid but not deeply explored.

“The three numbers are obviously the number of students they have. Most importantly though, more important than student numbers is the class placements.”

“Revenue is how much money is coming into your business um each week or for some of you it's each term.”

Originality

9.2 / 20

The core advice - track weekly revenue, shift from term to weekly billing, segment by age group - is sensible but not novel in the broader SaaS/B2B context. Weekly subscription models and cohort analytics are standard in modern business. The originality lies primarily in applying these principles to dance studios specifically, which is niche but not conceptually groundbreaking. The hosts frame this as revelation-level insight for their audience, but that reflects their audience's education gap rather than genuinely original thinking.

“We don't ever jump straight to the top. We get people in at a level that is accessible to them now. We build habits and we grow on that over time.”

“It when we build termly it like subconsciously gives parents a decision around opting out three times a year.”

Guest Caliber

11.4 / 20

Nathan is presented as a numbers expert working directly with dance studio owners in a membership community (SGC), and the hosts (Amanda and Rebecca) are studio owners themselves with lived experience. They speak from practice rather than theory. However, Nathan's background and credentials are not detailed; he functions more as a coach/facilitator than a senior operator who scaled a major business. The episode lacks external guest diversity or citation of recognized financial frameworks.

“And there like there's so many members that I join um onto a call with for the first time and they say either they're not paying themsel at all or they're not paying themsel well.”

“I did this quite a few years ago as well Nate. um that when I did it, I had that panicstricken in my head as well. Rebecca: And I made a really strong decision cuz I knew it was what was best for my business and my team that no one was going to pay up front.”

Specificity & Evidence

11.4 / 20

The episode includes concrete examples (a studio owner realizing costumes were unprofitable due to GST, another discovering that classes below 50% fill were in the red) and specific metrics (weekly revenue targets of 35K, 40K, 45K; gym subscription $65/week; class pricing $50/week). However, these examples lack dollar figures tied to outcomes, customer acquisition cost, or churn data. The costume GST example is useful but brief. Most claims about weekly billing's superiority lack comparative data (churn rates before/after, retention uplift percentages).

“I know that for a fact now because I've changed over to it. It's a much lesser amount coming out of their account. They don't have to stress about paying it hugely.”

“If you get a costume for $90, $9 of that is GST, which has to go into the GST account. So, therefore, if you're then charging $95, am I right in saying this? You're losing money off it.”

Conversational Craft

10.2 / 20

The hosts demonstrate genuine dialogue and build on each other's points, with follow-ups like 'what were they saying about that?' when introducing the costume example. However, questioning lacks rigor; there is no pushback on claims (e.g., whether weekly billing actually improves retention, or what happens to studios that maintain term billing successfully). Nathan's objection-handling (e.g., "I know lots of you have heard it multiple times from us") shows awareness of listener resistance but doesn't deeply test assumptions. The tone is consultative but not adversarial or probing.

“And that's where, you know, we focus on with studio owners and what we wanted to dive into on this week's podcast. And look, I think it's something we've mentioned before, but I think it's something that we can't hear enough because at some stages, we're just not quite ready to to take the Nathan: leap yet.”

“So, you know what your weekly is. Rebecca: That is just such a game changer for me as well, Nate.”

Standout episodes

  • 3 Numbers Every Successful Dance Studio Owner Should Know

    2026-09-02

    75
  • Stephen Tannos: The Wake-Up Call Every Dance Studio Owner Needs

    2026-07-01

    53
  • How One Studio Added $60,000 Revenue in Open Week

    2026-07-29

    49

Rank over time

4 periods tracked.

Episodes

11 scored on substance · 70 tracked in total.

  • 3 Numbers Every Successful Dance Studio Owner Should Know

    2026-09-02 · 23 min

    75 / 100
  • How One Studio Added $60,000 Revenue in Open Week

    2026-07-29 · 22 min

    49 / 100
  • Stephen Tannos: The Wake-Up Call Every Dance Studio Owner Needs

    2026-07-01 · 24 min

    53 / 100
  • Stephen Tannos: What REALLY Makes Dancers Stand Out

    2026-06-24 · 18 min

    48 / 100
  • We Asked ChatGPT to Run Our Lives As Dance Studio Owners… Here's What Happened!

    2026-06-17 · 25 min

    38 / 100
  • 5 Reasons Your Dance Studio Isn't Growing - Part 2

    2026-06-10 · 22 min

    48 / 100
  • 5 Reasons Your Dance Studio Isn't Growing - Part 1

    2026-06-03 · 22 min

    53 / 100
  • Simple Ways To Make More Money In Your Dance Studio - Part 2

    2026-05-27 · 26 min

    77 / 100
  • Simple Ways To Make More Money In Your Dance Studio - Part 1

    2026-05-20 · 23 min

    76 / 100
  • The Productivity Problem No One Talks About in Dance Studios

    2026-05-13 · 24 min

    55 / 100
  • The #1 Dance Studio Owner Trap To Avoid

    2026-05-07 · 26 min

    70 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Dance Principals United's substance score?
Dance Principals United scores 52.6 out of 100 for substance and ranks #4678 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 25% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #695 of 992 in Marketing. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Dance Principals United worth listening to?
Dance Principals United is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 52.6/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts Dance Principals United?
Dance Principals United is hosted by Amanda Barr & Rebecca Liu-Brennan: Dance Studio Coaches & Growth Experts.
How often does Dance Principals United publish?
Dance Principals United publishes weekly, has 100 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-09-24.
Which Dance Principals United episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "3 Numbers Every Successful Dance Studio Owner Should Know" (75/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

Dance Principles United · 6ChatGPT · 2Claude · 2Studio Growth Club · 2Instagram · 2Sydney Dance CompanyTeslaAppleBunningsAdairsGrokDream DanceRoundhouseTribeBrent StreetParis CabDance Principals UnitedDance on Cue

Guests who've appeared

Rebecca Lou Brennan · 3Stephen Tannos · 2Amanda BarNathRebecca Lubrennen

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Class placements · 2Revenue vs. profit · 2Weekly direct debit billingRFI dashboard (class-level profitability)Term-based vs. weekly billingGST on ancillary revenuePreschool vs. school-age segmentationStudio timetabling optimizationStudent retention and enrollment stabilityPayment method automationOpen Week marketing eventFOMO (fear of missing out) marketingSeason 26 Pack incentivesStudio Growth Club (SGC)On-the-spot conversions and incentivizationMulti-channel marketing (social ads, flyers, email, phone)Class placements and upsellingRecurring tuition revenue

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