
Hosted by Steve Gilman
This is Brand Story, where host Steve Gilman talks with those on the front lines of brands: business leaders, entrepreneurs, and marketers.
110 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2026-07-02 · ~38 min/episode
Rank
#5248
Substance
45.0
/ 100
Breakdown
Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly
Across the index
#5248 of 6183
Substance
Top 85%
outscores 15% of the index
Brand Story ranks #5248 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 45.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and specificity & evidence. The guests' credentials are genuinely strong - Cannes Lions, Money 20/20, Fox Sports, Nike, Sky - and they are operators who have built things at scale rather than pure thought-leaders. However, this episode extracts almost none of that practitioner knowledge; they function entirely as event promoters rather than practitioners sharing hard-won insight.
Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.
The episode is overwhelmingly promotional, built around selling attendance to a new festival. The few substantive claims - industry CAGR, fragmentation dynamics, five-second ad viewing - are surface-level observations thrown out without development or nuance, buried under event marketing language and platitudes.
“content is always going to be king”
“curiosity is what keeps me going in the world”
Every idea in the episode circulates freely in marketing and media discourse: brands owning their narrative, content fragmentation shifting power to consumers, emotion as the engine of brand connection. There are no contrarian arguments, no first-principles reasoning, and no counterintuitive claims anywhere in the transcript.
“brands can be destroyed by you not controlling their own narrative”
“content is always been about, you know, can you instill emotion and create an emotional connection to consumers”
The guests' credentials are genuinely strong - Cannes Lions, Money 20/20, Fox Sports, Nike, Sky - and they are operators who have built things at scale rather than pure thought-leaders. However, this episode extracts almost none of that practitioner knowledge; they function entirely as event promoters rather than practitioners sharing hard-won insight.
“over a career spanning more than 30 years, he's helped build and scale world class events including Cannes lion and Money 20 20”
“I used to be a CMO as well”
There are scattered concrete details - a 6% CAGR figure, 2 billion people without internet, a $750K film budget, an NPS target of 40s - 50s, and named speakers like Ross Martin at Known and Wendy McMahon at CBS - but these are dropped without sourcing or elaboration and do not build into a substantive evidence base.
“the industry is growing at 6% CAGR”
“Obsession was $750,000”
The host is consistently sycophantic, asks no challenging questions, volunteers agreement before guests even finish speaking, and frames every question as a leading compliment. There is zero pushback on any claim and no meaningful follow-up; the episode functions as a promotional segment, not an interview.
“I think what you guys are doing is really original”
“I think it's going to be a really special thing”
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1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.
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