AI for Business Podcast · 2026-09-11 · 13 min
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47 / 100
Five dimensions, 20 points each
This episode is a practical walkthrough of using Lovable AI to build production-ready applications from conversational prompts. Brian starts by introducing his updated resource guide (43 chapters of prompts) and the app builder playbook, then demonstrates building a real estate staging app - an AI-powered tool that lets users upload room photos, select design themes, and generate virtually staged images for listings. The demo shows Lovable asking clarifying questions (room types, design themes, visual style, authentication requirements) before automatically generating a complete backend with Firebase, image generation via Nano Banana 2, and a clean UI. Brian emphasizes that no coding knowledge, API setup, or technical configuration is needed - just a plain English description. He also covers supporting tools like Claude, GitHub, Dribbble for design inspiration, and GoFullPage for screenshots. The episode includes Brian's perspective on AI platform competition, arguing Google's profitability and data advantages position it to eventually dominate over ChatGPT and other competitors, though Lovable currently leads in ease of app building.
Yes - you type a conversational description of what you want (like Brian's staging app example), Lovable asks 3-4 clarifying questions about features and style, then generates a complete, functional app with backend, database, and image generation integrated, ready to deploy.
No, Lovable handles it automatically - it enables Firebase, sets up the database, and integrates Google's Nano Banana 2 image generator without requiring you to configure anything yourself.
Existing AI staging apps charge $100 per photo, but using Lovable with Nano Banana 2 costs only pennies per image, letting you offer staging at lower prices and serve real estate agents looking to cut costs.
The playbook includes a direct Lovable link that gives 10 extra credits when you sign up, which Brian notes is enough to build an entire website without paying.
Google is profitable with vast data resources, while ChatGPT is burning money; Google's profitability and data advantage position it to win long-term, and their recent Nano Banana release already drove user growth.
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
The episode contains some practical procedural information about using Lovable AI to build an app (explaining tool options, the step-by-step process, and design choices), but it's heavily padded with promotional links, affiliate offers, and tangential commentary about Google vs. other AI companies. The core insight - that you can build an app from plain English in Lovable with just a few form selections - is valuable but relatively thin; most of the runtime is spent on setup, tool introductions, and filler rather than novel business or technical insights.
I just want to do this as easy as I can get. There's no things to learn. There's nothing to do. You just go in here and talk plain English.
You can literally get on here and do it that quick.
The core claim - that no-code tools like Lovable simplify app building - is well-established in the market and not contrarian. The specific example (real estate staging) is straightforward application of existing technology rather than novel thinking. The tangent about Google eventually winning the AI race is armchair speculation repeated across countless podcasts and tech commentary, offering no fresh perspective or first-principles analysis.
My bet is that Google ends up winning the race eventually
Google is actually profitable. They have all the data in the world
The host (Brian, presumably an experienced no-code builder) demonstrates genuine practitioner knowledge by walking through a live build and making specific tool choices. He shows hands-on familiarity with Lovable, Claude, and Firebase integrations, and references real constraints (bugs, connectivity issues, design tools). However, there is no guest - this is a solo tutorial episode, which limits the dimension since no outside operator's seniority or perspective is present.
I'm just going to assume I was brand new to lovable. I never used it before, and I'm creating my first app.
Sometimes when it's done, there might be a bug like it might not work right away. Like, I try to upload a picture and it doesn't stage or it doesn't generate.
The episode includes some concrete specifics: the 43-chapter book, 5-6 design themes as an example, real estate staging costing thousands, competitor apps costing $100 per photo, and references to tools like Dribbble, GoFullPage, and Firebase. However, much of the specificity is about promoting links and products rather than evidence-based claims. No actual performance data, user numbers, cost breakdowns, or results are provided for the staging app or Lovable's efficacy.
staging a home cost a few thousand dollars to do. It's expensive. And so one, I'll show you how to solve a pain point.
a lot of the AI staging apps cost $100 for every single photo. That's a lot, especially when it costs you pennies to create that stuff.
This is a monologue/tutorial rather than a conversation; there are no guests to interview, no push-back, and no genuine dialogue. The host narrates his process and asks himself rhetorical questions ("what type of rooms?") but doesn't engage with opposing views, challenge assumptions, or probe deeper into trade-offs. The early sections are dominated by affiliate links and product promotion rather than substantive questioning or exploration of ideas.
What type of rooms should the app support? All types of rooms, main rooms only. Custom selection. So let's just do main rooms only.
you have no idea how to build an app or anything. That's how simple it can be.
Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.
In this live demo session from the AI for Business event, Brian builds a complete, working app from a single plain-English sentence, with no coding, no tricks, and no prior Lovable experience assumed. He starts by walking through his own free resource, a 40-plus chapter prompt book and playbook available at Brian's Gift, before diving into a real-time build of a home staging app that lets real estate agents upload a photo of an empty room and generate a fully staged version for their listings. Brian treats this as a deliberately bare-bones demonstration: no advanced prompting techniques, just describing the idea in plain language and answering a handful of follow-up questions Lovable asks automatically. He also shows off the design-inspiration tools in his stack, Dribbble for style ideas and GoFullPage for capturing entire websites in one screenshot, and highlights that both Gemini and ChatGPT are already built into Lovable at no extra cost, giving access to Google's Nano Banana image generation without needing a separate API.
Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.
I have my book. So I redid this just recently. Just got finished today. And this is going to answer a lot of questions that you're going to have.
Because we're not going to answer them all right now. I'm just going to kind of give you the basics and show you how to get started today. But you have multiple chapters in here. So it looks like there's oh, wow, 43 chapters.
Tons of different prompts. It looks like there's a chapter 44 as the ultimate prompts library. And so this can be a reference guide for you. So Brian's gift dot Brian spelled with an eye, not a Y.
And there's a book with a lot of different references for you and if you keep that link I'm going to, I'll continue to update the same book. As it comes out, for some reason, some changes I'll let you guys knows. There's another link in here for Claud. I don't know if they had an affiliate link for free credits or anything, and it's just a regular link, but I'm going to show you how to use Claud with all of this as well.
You might have heard a couple of the team members talk about it. It's part of my process that not a lot of people use. There's building the lovable app. So this link right here, you can use the direct to lovable link.
But this one gives you ten extra credits. Not a big deal, but ten extra credits could build an entire website. But you don't have to pay for. And I get an extra hundred credits just for.
So that's cool. This is the app builder playbook. So this one here is going to basically go through my structure. So if you scroll down here this kind of shows how I do it.
So if you're getting stuck or don't know what to do this is the build system of what I use to do it the way that I do it. The tools that you're going to need. Lovable clod. GitHub which is free.
You just need a free account. And, this playbook and a knowledge file, which I'm also going to show you how to do. There's a couple of helpful tools that you may not need. Dribble spelled with freebies, is a site to get design inspiration from.
Don't need to use it, but sometimes I do because it has some of the best designs on the internet. It's like a showcase site and you can tell lovable, hey, go check this out or take a screenshot of something and upload it and it'll build something around the designs that you like. So if you kind of like somebody else's website, you like somebody else's app designs, even if it has nothing to do with the niche, you can pull that inspiration in and use it. Go Full Page is another free app.
You don't need the paid one and go full page. Lets you take a screenshot of an entire website. So if you take a screenshot on your computer, it's only going to get a chunk of like a website, right? And then you find yourself taking multiple screenshots.
This one we'll take a screenshot of the entire website. So it's very long and it'll get inspiration for the whole thing all at once. It is a chrome extension, so you need Google Chrome to use that. Another cool helpful tool.
And this is kind of the just the foundation in this, the setup. So everything I'm covering, if you open this playbook, you can use this prompt here and cut and paste it. And this is the first prompt that you would use and just work your way through it. So that's in the Brian's gifts.
com. That is the playbook. And then there's a little worksheet if you want to use it. You don't have to.
But if you want to use this worksheet here it kind of accompanies the playbook. All right. So what we're going to do is get started. And the first thing that I'm going to do out of the gates is just build something that traditional way and lovable, which is the absolute easiest way.
And we'll just do a simple app that I don't really if you're doing a simple app, you really don't need to use all the tricks and hacks and all that kind of stuff anyway. I can just go in here and simply say exactly what I want, just because I know not everybody is in here as in real estate, but we've been using it as an example or several things. Let's just go with that, because I know a simple app that we can build that uses the Google platform. So like I said, ChatGPT and Google Gemini a suite is integrated into lovable AI.
You don't need an API. You don't need to connect anything. It's just there. And so you can use either one of those with your app, which gives you access to nano banana, nano banana two, which is what's inside of Reven as well.
So I use Nano Banana two inside A to make images is one of the best image creators. So knowing that I have AI and I can build really awesome images, that expands the things that I can do with lovable. I can create headshots. So I could make a website where you upload pictures and create amazing, headshots with it.
I can transform backyards for a landscaping business. I could get a photo of the person's backyard and show them what it could look like if we did different things to it. And the one that we'll do today, just as an example, is a staging app. The only reason I wanted to share this one is one.
I know we can do it very simply. Two we got a lot of real estate people in the room, and three, staging a home cost a few thousand dollars to do. It's expensive. And so one, I'll show you how to solve a pain point.
So if you were in real estate, being able to stage homes without paying hardly anything, you know, a couple pennies is pretty awesome. It saves a lot of money and it helps you sell faster. So filling that gap, though, also opens up an opportunity to solve that problem for many other people. So a lot of the AI staging apps cost $100 for every single photo.
That's a lot, especially when it costs you pennies to create that stuff. You could do it less. You could do it the same. You can do whatever you want, but let me show you how I would go about creating something like that without knowing anything.
Like, I just want to do this as easy as I can get. There's no things to learn. There's nothing to do. You just go in here and talk plain English.
That's what we're going to do right now. I'm not going to do any tricks. I'm going to just assume I was brand new to lovable. I never used it before, and I'm creating my first app.
So I would go in here and I would say, I want to build. An ultra. Luxury. Well, I want the ultra premium.
Looking app. That stages homes. Cities. Homes.
The app would allow the user to upload a photo of a vacant room in the house, and they can pick. A specific design theme for the room and the app. Magically stages the room with a beautiful. Look and furniture.
They can download and use to sell the home in for sale listings. All right. So can everybody handle that? It was literally just the idea.
So I didn't do any anything tricky with that. I just kind of said what I want. And then we could say. Well, we can have a log in, I guess.
So, create. Let's do, it'll ask me. So I'm just going to I'm going to stop there. I'm not going to get into user logins or anything.
Let's just stop there. Couple sentences and they go. Because it's probably just going to ask me anyway. So we hit go.
And that was kind of the hardest part is typing that in and thinking of that idea. The next stuff, it's just going to ask me probably 3 or 4 questions, and then it's going to build an end to end app that we can publish and put on our domain and make it go live right here inside of lovable. So if you haven't touched it, you have no idea how to build an app or anything. That's how simple it can be.
So if you were thinking like you got to do all the studying and try to figure all this stuff out, and it's this huge learning curve, and of course Brian can do it because he does it every day. That's not the case. You can literally get on here and do it that quick. So, what type of rooms should the app support?
All types of rooms, main rooms only. Custom selection. So let's just do main rooms only. You can do anything but for the main rooms only.
How many design themes styles do you want? I'd say 5 to 6 is fine, but you could do way more if you wanted. What visual style would you like for the app itself? Clean.
Minimal. Dark. Luxury. Warm.
Premium. Bold. Modern. Let's say clean.
Minimal. Do you need, user accounts login, or should it work without sign in? Let's do required sign and let's do it. And then hit submit.
All right. So now your staging app is being built. And if all I ever did was that I'm going to have an app that works. Now sometimes when it's done, there might be a bug.
What I mean by a bug like it might not work right away. Like, I try to upload a picture and it doesn't stage or it doesn't generate. Or maybe it forgot to use a lovable cloud. And I got to remind it that it's using a cloud or something happens.
Then we just tell it there's a problem. We just say this doesn't work, and it says, okay, I'll go fix it. I'm dealing with that internet issue. Hopefully this doesn't end up being a problem for us.
Send me start over. Required sign in, submit. All right, so this will just take a second. Hopefully, as long as it stays connected here and this will build it out.
Let's see. Make sure before I look away let's make sure it's doing it. It's generating the plan. That we learned over.
So how do you get this window. You just start. So on the on the main screen. Okay.
I got to approve this really fast. Hold on one second. This is the plan. I'm just going to approve it.
I should have done bold and set a minimal because it'll look a little bit more over the top, which is kind of cool. Okay. It looks like it's going right now. So let's go back to lovable.
You're going to start here on this. Then you're going to hit go. Then it automatically brings you to the screen that I'm on. You have to put your first prompt in in order to start.
And then it's going to start. Now it's enabling cloud. So it does realize that we need that. It's enabling the back end let's say enabling the database.
So all those things that you had to do manual before which is why like it's harder to work with other apps. Google just leveled up. So they do allow Firebase. Now they do host it as well.
So there's a lot of things that it can do. It's still not quite as good at it. It does build stuff. That looks a little better sometimes operates a little better.
It's still a little bit more technical. I think they're going to work through that in the next three weeks. Logan Kilpatrick I think his last name is, He said they're going to be doing a lot more updates. So I would tell you, just so you know, my bet is that Google ends up winning the race eventually.
It just still hasn't happened yet. Google, I know all the different, AI companies out there, including ChatGPT that's just burning money left and right. Google is actually profitable. They have all the data in the world.
So they have the data. They have the money. If you want to know what my bet is on, it's probably Google in the long run to really pull ahead of all these guys. It's almost laughable how long it took them.
So like where we are today, I can't believe it took them that long to get there. They're turning point was literally man banana until the end. Like not a lot of people use them. If you look at the charts, as soon as they came out with that image generator, their users skyrocketed and it continues to grow and grow.
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