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E54: The Three Jobs AI Actually Does For Your Business

AI for Business Podcast · 2026-07-03 · 39 min

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Key moments - from our scoring

Substance score

39 / 100

Five dimensions, 20 points each

Insight Density9 / 20
Originality8 / 20
Guest Caliber7 / 20
Specificity & Evidence7 / 20
Conversational Craft8 / 20

The episode focuses on agentic browsers - AI-powered tools integrated directly into your web browser that can automate research, lead generation, and routine business tasks without requiring API connections or complex setup. The host breaks down AI's practical business value into three functions: lead generation (finding and researching prospects across LinkedIn and other sources), lead conversion (better follow-up, research, and data quality), and task automation (eliminating manual work like data entry, CRM updates, and email management). ChatGPT Atlas and Perplexity Comet are highlighted as the leading agentic browsers currently available, with specific examples of automation use cases including prospect list generation with contact info, website scraping, social media outreach, and calendar/email management. The episode emphasizes that success with these tools depends on developing strong communication skills - "linguistics" - to articulate clearly what you want the AI to accomplish. Security hygiene and practicing at scale before full deployment are discussed as practical implementation considerations. The host positions agentic browsers as the inevitable next phase of AI adoption, recommending immediate experimentation with free trials rather than waiting, as 2026 is expected to bring widespread enterprise adoption.

Key takeaways

  • →Agentic browsers like ChatGPT Atlas and Perplexity Comet automate lead research, outreach, and prospect list generation directly within your browser without requiring API integrations.
  • →The three core AI business functions are: generating new leads, improving conversion of existing leads through better data and follow-up, and automating repetitive tasks like data entry and CRM management.
  • →Your core skill for working with agentic browsers is clear communication ("linguistics") - explaining in plain English what you want accomplished, rather than complex prompt engineering.
  • →Agentic browsers remember information across your browser history and can access your logins, allowing them to function as an executive assistant that can post to social media, check calendars, and draft emails based on natural language requests.
  • →Start experimenting now with free trials of Perplexity Comet or ChatGPT Atlas to identify your biggest time-waster and test automation in one business process before scaling broadly.

Topics in this episode

CRM automationEmail automationAgentic browsersChatGPT AtlasPerplexity CometBrowser automationAI-powered lead generationAI research toolsData scrapingExecutive assistant automation

Questions this episode answers

What are agentic browsers and how do they differ from using ChatGPT directly?

Agentic browsers like ChatGPT Atlas and Perplexity Comet integrate AI directly into your web browser so you don't need to navigate separately to tools - instead you give commands in the browser itself, and the AI can access your logins, remember information across sites, and automate actions like research and outreach without APIs.

Which agentic browser should I use for lead research versus outreach automation?

ChatGPT Atlas is better for browser automation and task automation across websites, while Perplexity Comet excels at information scraping and research; both can handle lead generation and outreach, but the choice depends on whether you prioritize automation versatility or research depth.

Can agentic browsers post to my social media without getting my account flagged as spam?

Yes, when used at human scale and frequency - the host tested Perplexity Comet posting to Facebook successfully without triggering bot detection; accounts get flagged when activity becomes inhuman or excessive, so isolated tests at normal volumes are safe.

What security risks should I be aware of with agentic browsers?

Agentic browsers have vulnerabilities like any new technology, but the solution is practicing good data and security hygiene - avoid leaving passwords and sensitive files open on your computer, and don't let potential security issues prevent you from using the tools.

Do I need to learn prompt engineering to use agentic browsers effectively?

No - as browsers become more natural-language-capable, the primary skill you need is clear communication and articulation of what you want accomplished; complex prompt engineering is less necessary than understanding how to explain tasks clearly to AI.

What our scoring noted

Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.

Insight Density

9 / 20

The episode covers agentic browsers and three business use cases (lead generation, lead conversion, automation) with some practical examples, but relies heavily on repetition, vague assertions, and filler phrases. The host repeatedly cycles through the same three jobs without developing them substantively, and much of the runtime is consumed by generic advice (practice security hygiene, be aware of AI, simplify language) rather than novel operational insights. The Q&A section adds some specificity but most answers are surface-level.

I think I can help generate leads. I think I can help convert existing leads better than before. And I think I can help you automate the things you don't want to do.
It comes down to should you not even use these technologies in the first place. If that was the case, I don't think we get anything done.

Originality

8 / 20

The framing of agentic browsers and their business applications is somewhat timely but not particularly original. The three-job framework is overly broad and generic. The advice about prompt engineering, security hygiene, and voice branding are well-known practices circulating widely in AI communities. The guest offers minimal contrarian perspectives or first-principles thinking; most claims follow established industry consensus.

Your ability to adapt, your your ability to implement AI and understand.
linguistics is probably one of the core skill sets as well.

Guest Caliber

7 / 20

The speaker appears to be a founder or community organizer within an AI education platform, but lacks clear evidence of deep operational execution at scale in the business domains discussed. The speaker discusses tools secondhand and anecdotally (e.g., 'I talked to multiple offers'), and the substance relies more on aggregating tooling advice than demonstrating firsthand expertise in lead generation, sales, or operations at scale. This reads as a thought-leader synthesizing community knowledge rather than a practitioner with proven results.

I work with lovable, I've seen work with AI, and he solves his really, really complex problems.
I have anecdotally experience and talked to, multiple offers actually in the community that have generated their books.

Specificity & Evidence

7 / 20

The episode names specific tools (Perplexity, ChatGPT Atlas, Claude, Arc Max, Lovable) and mentions a few concrete features (e.g., cross-website memory in Gemini, browser automation delivering contact lists). However, evidence is largely anecdotal and lacks hard metrics: no data on lead generation lift, no timelines or budget figures, no case studies with named companies, and vague claims about Fortune 500 usage without attribution. The Q&A section adds some specificity but most discussion remains abstract.

fortune 500, fortune 5000 companies are using automation for their teams, because when they talk about a 50% increase in lead generation
I was successful with, comment, on, posting on my Facebook. Okay. So it doesn't it didn't trigger anything where it made it look like a bot or. No, none of my side sounds good.

Conversational Craft

8 / 20

The host asks reasonable follow-up questions during the Q&A segment and engages with audience concerns (security, automation detection, implementation fears). However, the host's main presentation lacks sharp questioning or productive pushback. The questions asked are often softball deliveries that the host answers with repeating prior points rather than exploring tension or testing claims. The conversational tone is warm but the intellectual rigor is limited; the host rarely challenges assumptions or digs into contradictions.

So the question is, you know, with new technology, there's new vulnerabilities, right? And that's common.
But I just I'm also a little bit of a personality and like, I'd like to be a little cleaner, but if just being raw and ugly is going to help with my authenticity, I'm willing to do it.

Conversation analysis

Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.

Most-used words

tools33question20information19browser18research16leads15browsers13help13better13perplexity13prompt10core9answer9chatgpt9tool9thank9

Episode notes

This live session, recorded on Day 3 of the AI for Business event, features Jenz breaking down agentic browsers, the next shift in how business owners interface with the internet, using tools like Perplexity Comet and ChatGPT Atlas. Drawing on real testing inside the AI for Business ecosystem, Jen frames the entire opportunity around three simple jobs AI does for a business: generate leads, convert existing leads, and automate the work you don't want to do. The talk explains why the browser itself is becoming the AI layer, why linguistics is now the core skill that outlasts prompt engineering, and how to start experimenting without getting your accounts banned or burning through tokens. If you're a business owner, real estate investor, or operator trying to figure out where agentic AI actually fits into lead generation, research, and daily operations in 2026, this session is a practical starting point.

Full transcript

39 min

Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.

I want to talk about a concept, about a new technology that's going to be really, really taking over. It's kind of that next phase. It's that new chip and where technology is going when it comes to you interfacing with the internet. And that concept is a genetic browsers.

You might have seen these before. I'll touch on, names like, church Atlas, if you've heard that, perplexities comment. So I want to make you aware. We're not going to go into a full demo demonstration, but I want to make you aware of what these tools are doing, why it's happening, and why you need to be aware of it.

Now, your browsers are going to become integrated, because right now, using tools like Claude, right now, you're using tools like Church of Beauty, and right now you're using tools like Gemini's, and you have to go first. You have to go to the internet, you have to go to your browser, and then directly go to those tools. And what's shifting in the background is that's moving up. It's moving away from those apps, moving away from those tools, and it's coming just straight to the browser, right.

So instead of navigating, you know, if you're you're browsing, then you need to accomplish something on your business. You're not doing navigating the church. You're navigating and then typing in a prompt. And I need this done.

It's right in the browser, right? It's right there on the side. Hey, I need you to accomplish this task. So what is happening is that and these stats, I started pulling a little bit from deep research, but a lot of these fortune 500, fortune 5000 companies are using automation for their teams, because when they talk about a 50% increase in lead generation, it's more about efficiency and adaptation and execution.

And then especially with investing in AI, it is going to be I think it's a lot higher than 1.8. This was what the research pulled out. But it's going to be extremely higher than that.

For those that don't because the adoption, it's inevitable. Like I said, kind of like when I was saying in the panel, it's an ever growing ocean. And one of the core things that isn't going to change. What's the constant factor to you?

Your ability to adapt, your your ability to implement AI and understand. And then lastly, the the compute, you know, with competitors over you automating, can you afford to not be aware of these things? So I like to think about and you know, I think you've you've heard me talk before. I work in simple ideas.

I have to, you know, for myself to even understand it. I need to break down and really simplify, just even some of the most complex topics. And I've thought about it a lot. I've thought about it again and again.

Again about what can really AI help with in business. Right. And in thinking about that, it really broke down to three ideas. I think I can help generate leads.

I think I can help convert existing leads better than before. And I think I can help you automate the things you don't want to do. Taking off the words of, one of our speakers in, Orlando. And excuse my friends, it's automating the the shit you don't want to do on a daily basis.

So when you're winning and this is what's happening is that as these the genetic browsers are really increasing in its intellect, what you're needing to do and what you need to understand when using these is you need to understand how to talk to AI, because what's happening is that it's getting easier to say in English what you want the browser to do. So because a lot of these engineered steps, brain is a really, really good showcase of this. I was talking with Brian just recently and it feels like and what Brian is, you know, embracing is kind of the concept, the great simplification, meaning that AI is allowing us to simplify things into a button for us, simplify things into one task.

Answer because previously, you know, even just a year ago, AI engineering or had prompt engineering was so, so strong. It is strong. I do highly, highly recommend learning and understanding these concepts, but for speed of adaptation, you don't need to do it as much anymore. With English.

So what that means is that your skillset, your foundational skill set that's going to stick with you with AI is linguistics. It's articulating what do you want it to do, right? And because you can follow the rule of thumb, if you ask AI, you know, to build something, to design something, if you explain it in a way where a human could not get it, you know, accomplished, how could I do it right now? So and then lastly is a little bit on the history, because with these browsers and just these browsers in general on top of the English, it's also it can work across it remembers information across multiple websites.

Because right now the memory interactivity in Gemini, it remembers about even Revenant right brain put memory in reverse selective memory for for those of you that don't know, is that he can remember across your browser history, across your information. So if you have if you apply this for your work, it remit remembers that information. Now, here are the two tools that are kind of the forerunners right now. There's a lot out there.

It started off with a the, you know, a company called browser Use. It fueled a lot of the, tools itself. I know the title isn't up there, so it's perplexity. Comet.

So for the for anybody that needs the right resident perplexity comets is one of the most popular ones right now. And then you just came out with this recently. It is ChatGPT Atlas. I don't believe cloud has its own.

There's a few out there. Something, I believe it's arc max. Arc Max. But these are the two most prominent ones, so what this allows you to do is that in your browser itself, you can do things like outreach.

You can do things like finding and taking information and contact info just based on your browser, because here's why it's working the way it does. What is automation except just doing thing? What doing things, what I already does or what humans already do. So what does that mean?

If you are looking up leads across LinkedIn, if you're looking up leads and researching and googling leads, it used to, you know, you had to do it yourself. But now the browsers are getting smart enough with AI that they can do that for you. So you don't need APIs, you don't need those connections. It just takes over your computer and then continues doing these actions.

And this has been shown multiple times, especially right here. Delivers ready to contact prospect list with emails and phone numbers. Because what it's doing is it's taking information if you're, a real estate agent, if you're looking for, properties, if you're a real estate investor. All that information can be found online.

If you've access certain resources, this can work with it, which is really, really nice. For tools that don't have the same tech capability or don't have the same level of, updating, because that's a really strong factor as well. And I'll get into that. So the other thing that this does really, really well is research.

I think we're taking for granted how much research is being done behind the scenes with AI, because it used to take hours upon hours, using I remember it reminds me back in the days where, in another world, I went a full cybersecurity route. But the one thing they drilled in me was at the beginning is, hey, you need to learn this skill. You need to learn what is called Google fu. You need to spend hours upon hours learning Google fu.

Because as much as I love you as much, I want to answer your questions. I don't. So you need to go and learn how to google everything yourself. So I've spent, you know, many days, many hours honing how to research how to find those questions.

But AI is making that so quick and giving you the same, you know, same power, fingertips. But, you know, just a reminder, like AI is a multiplier as well, right? So that's why I always, always, always push to have foundational skill sets. Knowing how to research it multiplies your ability to use AI to know what good research is.

So it takes information instead of having to go into, like the New York Times, instead of having to go out to multiple informations, you most of you are probably already doing that in ChatGPT. You're using perplexity. You're using these tools to research for you, and it's getting it's being brought to the surface. It's being brought to the gateways of the internet now and then lastly, it also can do this as well with these are genetic browsers.

It's getting to the point where it's using your logins. It's using your accounts so that all you have to do is if you have leads, if you have got, you know, if somebody's on LinkedIn, something on Facebook, you can say, hey, please reach out or goes Facebook group, write this post and then, you know, post this information, reply to these leads to these contacts. By these conversations, you can just explain what you need to do and remember going back to it. You need to be able to explain clearly what you want it to do, because it can do that nowadays.

And so it can check your calendars. You can come and treat it like a, I would say an executive assistant of sorts, because this is a tool. It's just it starts with your browser, it's at your gateway. So once again in the we're kind of touching upon the third topic, which is, you know, once again, that is the three things that I can help with is generating leads, converting existing leads, and then doing the stuff you don't want to do and doing the stuff you don't want to do is it's great when it frees you up more time to do, the more productive, the revenue generating things.

So when you're working into market research, if you're filing it into reports, if you're working on data entry, like you're working in your CRM, testing these, and we've gone through a few testing phases of using a generic browsers with DHL, we're not ready to just fully push out, you know, our full or full findings just yet, but I can I'm pleased to report that we are getting a lot of success of using and testing browsers with things like DHL, with things like these tools, and interacting with it just with English, where it can perform, you know, time taking tasks or ways like if you don't know how to do it, it can help, it can help you.

Regarding this, and lastly, you know, Filipinos, it can be an email. You can have these as an email box agent. So we've talked about it before. There's many there's many tools you can go to to do so and to, you know, create follow up email or follow up agents you can use even, you know, automation tools, Zapier and then or, Macomb, because those have been some of the prominent ones.

But it's getting easier. It's now, you know, showing up in the browser, just downloading a browser, you're going to have these AI powered automations at your fingertips. So what this means, especially for your, you know, what you're focusing on for your bottom line, is there's going to be really, really core concepts that are coming. I would say in 2026, which is it's going to be reducing or scaling operations without adding your headcount, because what you're going to be able to do is give your team, give your team access, the ability to build out all this information and allow them to perform at a higher efficiency than previous.

Right? So you don't need to just add more people. You need to multiply their already existing frames. You can reduce manual work.

It's it's one of the biggest things that are going to, you know, bring it down and increase the multiplier for your business. And then lastly, it's going to be good to quicker respond. So if you have automations on standby with these automated browsers, you're going to be able to ask it to put timers, to put trackers that it's waiting for. These conversations right.

So these tools, as we said, you know which typically Atlas with comment these are these are coming now. They are ones that allow you to help research, you know, understand the topic. If I had to recommend between the two ChatGPT and Atlas. ChatGPT is really good for a lot of browser automation and task automation.

Perplexity. If you if you guys that for those of you that use perplexity is a really good website scraper or it's a really good information scraper and research tool, now it's only getting better. Every I would say every day there's a new one that's going to be coming up on the market. But pay attention to these.

And once again, these are the things you need to pay attention to. So that being said, it's always a matter of adopting AI in any form, in any capacity. Because we'll talk a little bit about what you know, what are the skill sets, what are the things that I talk about or that I do on a daily. And it's a matter of one of my practicing daily to use these AI tools or even be able to easily adopt it.

Right, because these tools, they're not slowing down. The ocean is not getting smaller. What it matters is it's you. It's your skill set.

It's your ability to adapt to these tools. And you know, for myself, I'm always practicing. I'm always practicing getting better, talking to it. I'm always getting better at getting responses from the AI, getting better actions.

And there's a skill set I'd love to learn from Brian. And I don't know how he does it, but this man, I've seen him work with lovable, I've seen work with AI, and he solves his really, really complex problems. I ask him, tech Brian, what are you saying to it? And the answer I get is I'm just telling that to do it.

Oh, really? And it makes me like he's got a wave. He's a he's an AI whisper. He's had a way of, it's really, really it's really, really astonishing what he can do.

Just explaining these things. And he just has a way of talking with it that no matter, no matter how tech, no, I can. Yeah. Because I can give it like three paragraphs of text, a couple cents from him because he knows what that core issue is.

Sometimes. So that's the skill set. That's because these AI tools are going to English. Everything is getting simpler.

It's getting to be the push of a button. So with that, it's that's one of the things is linguistics is probably one of the core skill sets as well. So that being said, that's the one thing. And I'm going to be I'm kind of going to be wrapping up a little bit early.

We had I've wanted to show a little bit of a demo, but just had some technical complications. So, we'll focus on a little bit on the core, the core foundational concepts. And so, I hope you like my Ted talk. We'll, we'll open the, the floor for, for some questions for any, you know, for anything kind of coming up here.

So, what's the next steps, right, with these tools? We've talked a little bit about it because really, at the end of the day, AI is coming towards you. It's coming at you. It's coming to the browser.

It's it's coming to the tools, it's coming to the phones. And it's just good to be aware of it, just number one. Because just as a reminder, being aware using these tools, it doesn't mean do not use tools now because things are coming right. It does not mean sit on the sideline.

It means use the tools. Get aware of how I thinks or how these tools work. Because if you're just given a browser that you know, it doesn't matter how simple it is, if you don't know how or why to use it, it's not going to help you. Yeah.

So just, you know, when you're working right now, I always love to, you know, have you go home I recommend is identify your biggest time waster once again. Are you generating more leads? Do you need to generate more leads? Do you need to convert existing leads better?

And I can go in a little bit on that topic as well. Converting existing leads better. What does that mean? It means having better data for better conversions.

It means doing follow up. It means doing research on leads to have a better chance at closing leads. There's so many areas in that field. And then lastly, it's doing the things you don't wanna do, right?

So identify those and then download either. I think perplexity has its, pretty generous. Perplexity comment. I think you have like a one year, trial and then, Atlas has a free trial as well.

And start, start playing with it. These are tools that you should start playing with because they're so in the early stages, because they're going to be growing into a lot more. So I would say it's right. They're here.

Things are coming right here. Right now. And 2026 is going to be, a really, really strong push for a genetics systems. You'll see things you've seen things like madness, you've seen things like Gen Spark AI agents.

Now, these are powerful agenda tools. It's kind of the next step at ChatGPT. It's getting there. They're testing and bringing a lot more to the front with, genetic browser AI.

But that's all I have to say on that topic. It's, it's really, really an interesting thing coming through. But at this moment, I just wanted to ask, the team back here is, is Pat or anybody available to do some, Mike running? That's going to help us out here.

Yeah. And at this moment, I want to kind of do a session, you know, with all the folks who've been here for three days. I'd love to hear your questions. Those of you who've seen me on the app or do Q&A, it's one of my favorite things to do.

So, at that point, thank you for listening to my brief Ted talk. And it's open for questions. Yeah. Anyone of those microphones that I can just throw at people?

Yeah, I'm talking about the little boxes. You just throw it at somebody. Here you go, girl. Hello, everyone.

I'm Kiana. So a question about the Atlas browser. So I know they ChatGPT recently they had a leak that happened where, on Atlas Browser, where people were, like, able to attempt to get, like, information as it was connecting. Is there any way to protect your against the different types of lines as they come out to make sure that those things are happening?

Like, do you have any recommendations? Yeah. So the question is, you know, with new technology, there's new vulnerabilities, right? And that's common.

That's the common idea through most of I would say every technology's right. And it comes down to should you not even use these technologies in the first place. If that was the case, I don't think we get anything done. So how do we how do we protect against that?

Is that it's practicing good security hygiene. It's making sure that you just don't have files, passwords, lying about open documents, everything that if you have super vulnerable information just available at the ready on your computer as well. Other than that, it's just, yeah, it's I would research. One thing I would do is I would research good, data hygiene.

But other than that, I would just say that going in there, it's not going to. Stuff in the sense that it should not prevent you from using these tools. So. Because with those that outreach and most of the time it's kind of like lightning strikes, right?

If I was getting hit by lightning so constantly, I would not go outside on that front. So yeah. It's honestly there's a lot of ways you can go about it, but just make sure you practice good dental, data hygiene or security hygiene yourself, when you're using the tools. So.

Oh, yeah. All right. Who? We got Alice over here.

And then we'll we'll bounce over there. This young lady right here. All right. Thank you.

I was curious if you've tried to have a post on your social media and, I guess how that went or if there is any concern just from your end on it. I was successful with, comment, on, posting on my Facebook. Okay. So it doesn't it didn't trigger anything where it made it look like a bot or.

No, none of my side sounds good. Yeah. And it is the question, you know, does it write like a bot, or does it feel like a bot when posting? It's more like I don't want to get my account banned.

Right? If it thinks I'm a bot, then. Exactly. So the it's entry browsers and mind you, it's actually a really, really good question as well because the question was if I'm using these tools, is Facebook tracking, is that going to get me banned?

The answer is maybe I will make a new Facebook account if I do. But that being said, not everybody can afford doing that, so I would do isolated tests at scale. It's more about app at, you know, at scale. If you do it on a human level, you're going to be okay, right?

It's when you start really getting spammy. It's when you start getting really, really excessive amounts of posts that are not humanly possible. But other than that, you know, as it goes up as well, it's they're going to be more accepting. So there are some things that can happen.

I have not had that issue just yet. Thanks. Solid. All right.

Who else we got. We got a little bit of time left. Well these are also really really good questions parts over here. Don't be shy.

This young lady over here is patiently waiting. Hey, remember that 50 cent song? Patiently waiting. Great song.

Okay. Hoping. Well, they say no questions a that question. Right.

Okay, so I was just kind of thinking about this whole weekend and then what's been presented in the last hour or so. And I thought I'd ask this question. Is there a way like you would if you were like, practicing stocks? You know how there's a way to you can just play play money in a sense.

Is there a way to, implement what we've learned for a novice right now and novel novice stage right now that I can do this without, putting myself out there? I'm not afraid of putting myself out there, but is only putting myself out there the way to do implementation and what we're learning and what we're going through. I'm I'm just asking that question. My son has told me I just need to do it ugly.

But I don't. I'm not always very comfortable with ugly, so I just thought I'd ask that question. Sure. No, I think, it's a wonderful question.

Let me let me feed it back and just let me know if this is, right or wrong. So with air for business and you see us a lot of success comes from putting yourself out there. And that's just true across business or certain areas. And as a new, you know, for those of you that are new to implementation or new to implementing AI into your business is the only way to really see the success.

To really get yourself out there, it's you have to be putting your face out there. Do you have to be putting yourself out there talking about your opinions, building a following? And, as such, would you say that's correct? I don't know if you still have the microphone or if, if I got it back or I ran away.

Dorrie. By the way, I don't think you're ugly. I think you look fantastic today. Thank you.

Not you. Thank you. Yeah, I was kind of asking that. I mean, like like, the young lady did it to.

In the women's group last night. There were several young ladies who had never done live. And so one of the lady at my table, she did. And I was able to actually, I don't know if she's here, but capture her reaction and I'm okay with doing it, but I just I'm also a little bit of a personality and like, I'd like to be a little cleaner, but if just being raw and ugly is going to help with my authenticity, I'm willing to do it.

I just wondered if there's a way to kind of like practice first. The word that you're looking for is imperfect. You need to replace the word ugly with imperfect, because I don't think you should even talk to yourself like that. I don't think that's healthy.

Okay? I'm just I'm just saying, like, we're I'm imperfect all the time. How many little sentences did I flub on the stage this week? How many people cared?

Zero. Right. Well, I mean, just like like you're saying you got to practice dental, you know, dental hygiene, right? It's true.

All right. Who else we got? You got this. Just put yourself out there, man, because people are going to like you for being you, not for, like, trying to be something that you're not.

Yeah. So. And I'll just give I'll give my core answer as well. It's, the one, the one phrase I stick to is perfection is the enemy of greatness.

Right? It is. Getting yourself out there will lead to greatness. Greatness will lead to perfection.

But perfection is going to prevent you from being great. So that's what I would say to that. Great job, Jen. Thank you.

And, I was curious about, Amazon blocking. I generate generated books. So I published a book, authored a couple books, and I'm planning on doing another one. But since joining you guys, I'm thinking about a third one with AI, support and help.

How do you avoid being banned from, Amazon as a result of an AI generated book? It's a great question. It's not a field I have not fully generated in the AI book. I have anecdotally experience and talked to, multiple offers actually in the community that have generated their books.

And it really comes down to the content. We teach a lot of humanizing with, our products are AI. You have to be really it comes down to, I keep, you know, my mind keeps coming to a certain hygiene. There's a certain level of hygiene when it comes to humanizing text, making sure you don't have the mesh that make sure you have.

And one thing that we practice is it's called voice branding. Right? Frances talks about it, in the it is copywriting mastery. It's you have to build a specific voice that is unique because if you don't build that voice, it will default to what it knows and what it knows is highly detectable by Amazon's information.

Right. So you need to be very, very intensive. So what is a voice. It's a way of giving certain patterns to text.

It's a way of giving certain writings. It's a way of giving it a certain vocabulary and using that as the framework throughout the document. Right. And then you need to go through multiple iterations of humanizing the text without losing the quality, because you can just say, go dumber, go dumber, go dumber, but then you lose kind of the intent of the book for those of for those that want to read it as well.

Right. It's an interesting concept because are we going to reach a point where people are going to stop reading? And then I just going to start summarizing books on Amazon is one of those things. And I think the answer is yes.

I think when you purchase a book or purchase a Kindle, it's going to allow it to be just summarized and read to you could be through Kindle, it could be through voice or otherwise. But yeah, just to answer your core core information directly is make sure you go through multiple iterations of humanization of the text to avoid it. There's no, you know, secret sauce. There's no secret tool for that as well.

It's just making sure you are getting it as close to human as possible, because air detectors, while good, are not perfect at determining that information on that. I have a question about, the iconic browsers. There's like in, comment. There's a, a, assistant, and then there's the regular perplexity that's built into the URL.

And they seem to have different skills and like in the, assistant, it's, it says, I can't do this, I can't do that. And, and is there something that you can explain about how they relate to each other? Because I, I would like to like in Atlas, use the, the advanced voice of ChatGPT. But I ran into like a time limit unless I live up to, the penny.

Yeah. And mindfully pay. So. No, it's a it's a wonderful question in there's a difference between these are generic browsers.

What are the limitations. Right. Because with regular perplexity, you can ask it to do if you're asking it to like, build documents or if you're asking it to process documents or process perplexity itself as a tool and as a model is made for research. It's made for website scraping.

It's made for that information. How is perplexity com it doing all these actions and performing all these animations right when perplexity can't even do that? And it's because these agents are being skills, because I think it was about two talks ago and they only been in Jacksonville. But I went a little bit into what is an agent?

An agent is an LLM right. Given a purpose and then given skills. So it's if you just have an LLM and you give it a purpose, you have a custom feed, that's it. If you give it skills, it becomes an agent of forms.

And the skills that the, browser does like for those coming, allows it to interact with your web page. It allows you to fill out information, it fields, it allows you to do these automated tasks when you can explain it to them. So it comes with the new technology, gives it the capabilities. It does not mean that the website or the tool itself, like perplexity, is now and is super genetic, if that makes sense.

So there's a separation between the two. And then, the question, I believe the question was on ChatGPT. Is there a way around the the limits, the limits of chatbot? The amount of voice you can put into it.

Oh, gotcha. So, yeah. So when you're on the free version of ChatGPT, you'll run into those limitations. No.

As a pro member, I would use, even though I would use the chat feature on ribbon. Because we don't have those limitations for you for, for the next two weeks. It's, it's unlimited. So when you use that, I would just process a document there because you need a tool or you need somebody who does not put those limits on you, because you will do so I love it.

Fantastic. I think we I think according to the schedule, we have ten minutes left, and so we're directly on time. So we might as well use it. Hey.

Well, let's get you right here. Yes. Yep. She has the question.

I like being on AI. Question. Yeah. So I'm pretty new at this, and, I'm just wondering if I can experiment with the different tools without, like, it says, I have a certain amount of credits, that I want to learn, and it's going to take a lot of credits is how do I get around that?

You can't at the end of the day, let's talk about what a credit is or what a token or credit. Everything in AI does cost some form of computation power. This can't be patient. This computation power is quantified in the form of tokens.

You can think of it either as gas or kind of a direct correlation of how much computational power. So for example, in the previous year for business app, we had, tokens pretty tied to the token you know, token usage of I know them generating text does not take many tokens. It's very, very little. It takes less computational power, even though the effect could be more direct.

So when you're generating images, it takes a bit more to generate the images, to process the models, to put the people in there. And then what takes a ton is the video generation models, right? So across the board, the answer is it's going to take those tokens regardless. I would take advantage of signing up for as many different platforms as possible because these companies that are backed by millions and millions, if not billions of dollars have enough capital to spend to give you free usage or give you more usage as we go.

We, you know, we get very, very close to to as extremely, what's the word? I use the word as fair as possible for usage is for us. But we're not billions of billion dollars services. So the way you do it is you go to these tools backed by all these, you know, large investors because they're giving away those tokens for free and then test they're come back to the tool and keep using the tool.

Here is my recommendation. Is there a recommended list of all these different tools. Honestly credits or tokens. Off the top of my head, they're just some of the use cases is I would just start researching some of the top, you can say like Higgs field for media generation.

But there's, there's so many tools out there. I would actually use AI to help you research on that one. Thank you. Of course.

Yeah. Get on. I feel like what's the best to AI is. Oh, man, I'm glad I lost weight because I'm, like, squeezing.

There we go. And please give a hand. Please give a hand to Patrick. Thank you for doing this, sir.

Yeah. Thank you very much. As a verb. So my question is I have a lot of credits left in the other platform, or will they be transferred?

So the question is I did make an announcement on, on the I didn't make an announcement on Tuesday actually, before the event, which is for those of you that have been with us, for those of you that don't know, inside of pro, the old the old app is actually being sunset. Now, the reason being is built on an infrastructure that we found it's not going to scale with us. We needed to. And actually it was actually the response that we got from you guys using Reven.

We found that usage went up hundreds, if not thousands fold when using a tool like Reven. So with that being said, we are moving over to Revan from the old ER for business app. It's going to have the same functionality and more. There's so many things that super excited to bring to you guys.

But the question was, are tokens going to be coming over directly? We can't bring those tokens over directly for those that that has stacked up or otherwise, but right now it is unlimited for pro members for you to just generate what you need to. And then, what's going to happen is also when that final move over is we're going to have some fair compensation for those tokens moving over. So the stock up is not going to move over.

I hope this is on point. I'm trying to get more into perfecting the prompting. Okay. But I seem to be on this one.

Pretend you're an expert, blah blah blah. Where am I going to go to get more, points on how to prompt? Yeah. So it's how do I how do I improve prompting?

How do I where can I go to really get those resources? Let me start from the top. So in the Pro modules, Pro modules one and two, there's some information on the prompting from there. We do for those of you that are in pro annual or above, you have the prompt engineering certification.

Otherwise you can actually ask AI Gemini and Chatbot are so ingrained it's like, hey, here's my recommendation is anytime I use a prompt or generate a prompt, always review the the initial prompt itself and then tell me how I can change to improve better. It's actually adding in your cadence and your way of prompt and asking. AI is tell me how I can get better talking to you, right? That's what I do a lot, because at the same time, it's not, it's not omniscient.

It can't read your mind. So if you ask it, it will tell you, especially with how deep it is nowadays. Otherwise OpenAI, quad, Gemini, they all have released prompt engineering information. But if you want it to do, if you want to learn while using it is ask it.

Ask it how I can improve this prompt. It's a simple answer, but it's the most effective one. But I hope that helps symbols better. Thank you.

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