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AI at Work

Hosted by Elijah Szasz, Kevin Williams

AI at Work is hosted by Elijah Szasz (CEO of SPARK6) and Kevin Williams (CEO of Ascend Labs). Each week delivers actionable insights on how artificial intelligence is reshaping jobs today, and how you can use it to advance your career.

32 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-06-24 · ~57 min/episode

Rank

#763

Substance

74.8

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

AI & Data rank

#80 of 495

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Across the index

#763 of 6182

Substance

Top 12%

outscores 88% of the index

Why it scores where it does

AI at Work ranks #763 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 74.8 out of 100, scored across 4 recent episodes. It scores highest on insight density and specificity & evidence. The episode contains substantive discussion of AI token economics, pricing models, and enterprise AI adoption challenges. However, much of the content devolves into tangential observations about various tools (Claude Desktop, Copilot, GPT agents) without deep analysis. The core insight - that AI pricing subsidies will eventually end and that token consumption may correlate with headcount decisions - is valuable but not extensively explored with rigor.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 4 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

16.5 / 20

The episode contains substantive discussion of AI token economics, pricing models, and enterprise AI adoption challenges. However, much of the content devolves into tangential observations about various tools (Claude Desktop, Copilot, GPT agents) without deep analysis. The core insight - that AI pricing subsidies will eventually end and that token consumption may correlate with headcount decisions - is valuable but not extensively explored with rigor.

“there are signs that the lifestyle subsidy is going to be ⁓ nearing an end”

“if token spend per employee approaches ⁓ that employee's salary, headcount math starts to look Right”

Originality

15.0 / 20

The episode applies existing frameworks (subsidies ending, commoditization of compute) to AI, drawing a parallel to the millennial lifestyle subsidy concept from 2021. While the specific application to token burn is relevant, the underlying logic and arguments largely recycle familiar venture-capital-backed unsustainability narratives. The conversation lacks genuinely contrarian or first-principles thinking.

“Derek Thompson at the Atlantic coined this back in 2021”

“VCs and zero rate money paid for the difference between what you paid and what things actually cost. And that era ended mid 2022”

Guest Caliber

13.5 / 20

Kevin Williams appears to be a practitioner with real hands-on experience building with AI tools and advising organizations on AI deployment. However, the transcript does not establish his specific credentials, company scale, or depth of enterprise experience clearly. He demonstrates practical knowledge but comes across more as an informed consultant than a high-caliber operator who has scaled significant AI initiatives at large organizations.

“I'm really not. I really don't think in their case in particular, it's, it's going to be that dramatic. Otherwise I wouldn't have recommended that”

“So I just did a 90 minute deep dive with, uh, with a really forward thinking, not-for-profit yesterday, a foundation”

Specificity & Evidence

15.5 / 20

The episode references specific incidents (Stockholm engineer spending more on Claude than salary, Uber burning 2020 AI budget early, Salesforce renaming tokens to 'agentic work units') but rarely provides concrete numbers, timelines, or verifiable details. Claims about pricing models and token costs are mentioned but lack supporting data. Most specific references are anecdotal rather than data-driven.

“there's a Stockholm engineer to the New York Times that he spends more on Claude than he earns in salary”

“Uber engineers reportedly burned through Uber's entire 2020 SXAI budget early in year”

Conversational Craft

14.3 / 20

Elijah Szasz asks follow-up questions and attempts to push on topics (e.g., 'is this reaching for headlines or a sign of things to come'), but the conversation often meanders into product comparisons and personal anecdotes rather than drilling deeper on substantive disagreements. The host does not strongly challenge Kevin's assumptions about commoditization or pricing elasticity, allowing much to pass unchallenged.

“You think that that is just reaching for headlines, pushing Nvidia chips? ⁓ Or do see this being the Is this a sign of things to come”

“Are you starting to see this? Are people adopting it? Have you played around with it yourself?”

Standout episodes

  • When Your AI Budget Hits Your Salary

    2026-04-29

    82
  • The Microsoft-Claude Connection That Actually Works

    2026-05-13

    76
  • Why Your Chief of Staff Dreams About You

    2026-04-21

    72

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

4 scored on substance · 32 tracked in total.

  • Why Claude Code Has Nothing to Do With Code

    2026-06-24 · 47 min

    69 / 100
  • The Microsoft-Claude Connection That Actually Works

    2026-05-13 · 38 min

    76 / 100
  • When Your AI Budget Hits Your Salary

    2026-04-29 · 55 min

    82 / 100
  • Why Your Chief of Staff Dreams About You

    2026-04-21 · 57 min

    72 / 100

Frequently asked

What is AI at Work's substance score?
AI at Work scores 74.8 out of 100 for substance and ranks #763 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 88% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #80 of 495 in AI & Data. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is AI at Work worth listening to?
Yes - AI at Work outscores 88% of the B2B ai & data podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a ai & data operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts AI at Work?
AI at Work is hosted by Elijah Szasz, Kevin Williams.
How often does AI at Work publish?
AI at Work publishes weekly, has 32 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-06-24.
Which AI at Work episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "When Your AI Budget Hits Your Salary" (82/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

ClaudeAnthropicRapid DevChatGPTMicrosoftCopilotSlackWhisperflow

Guests who've appeared

Kevin Williams · 2Matt GrahamElijah Szasz

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

ClaudeSlack integrationClaude DesktopCoworkWhisperflowMicrosoft integration with ClaudeAgent systemsGPTsCitizen developersHacker housesClaude add-on for Microsoft Office 365Microsoft Copilot vs. Claude integrationOpenAI GPT-4 agentsGoogle Gemini and NotebookLMClickUp project management integrationOpen Interpreter / local machine AI agentsAnthropic organizational context settingsOpenAI team pricing and analytics dashboards

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