This Week In Property Podcast · 2026-07-24 · 42 min
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Jason Kelly has evolved from doing simple £35k flats to tackling Grade B listed building refurbishments in Eaglesham, East Renfrewshire - Scotland's first conservation area since 1960. Rather than avoiding the regulatory complexity of listed buildings, Kelly embraces it through meticulous pre-deal homework with architects and building control, investing three to four months in due diligence before negotiating. The Eaglesham project demonstrates his assisted sales framework: he guaranteed the owner £320k on a property previously valued at £280k, priced the refurb at £150k (funded by two external investors with fixed returns), and structured profit-sharing above £550k. The work includes a new downstairs bathroom extension, retaining walls, patio, gas central heating installation (requiring listed building consent), sash-case windows, and comprehensive services upgrades. Kelly emphasizes rewarding deal sources, estate agents, and investors through referral fees and fixed returns, positioning himself to profit from the margin between guaranteed owner price and eventual sale while managing risk through security over the asset.
An assisted sales deal involves finding a property owner with existing planning permission but lacking capital to execute. You negotiate a guaranteed minimum price (e.g., £320k), price the refurbishment work, and share profits above a threshold - in Kelly's case, everything above £550k is split 50/50 with the original owner.
You work with an architect to submit listed building consent applications; utilities like SGN install gas lines and meters in approved locations (typically rear or side of property, never front) to preserve the building's aesthetic character.
Spend 3-4 months liaising with architects, building control, and conservation officers to map all consent requirements for windows, extensions, utilities, and drainage before negotiating a deal, so you understand true refurb costs and timeline.
Bring in external investors by offering them fixed returns on capital (e.g., £150k refurb budget covered by two investors who receive a guaranteed return), while you retain profit margin above that base cost.
He weighed the value gain (likely modest) against £150k+ additional spend and complexity, deciding the risk-reward didn't justify it; however, keeping the approved planning in place still serves as a selling asset for future buyers.
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
The episode contains practical details about navigating listed building constraints, deal structuring (assisted sales with profit-share arrangements), and specific project management decisions (extension vs. outhouse cost-benefit analysis, material choices like GRP roofing and PVC windows). However, much of the content is surface-level property walkthrough commentary with repetitive affirmations and limited novel frameworks. The deal structure itself is interesting but not deeply explored; most insights are tactical rather than strategic.
I did about three, four months actually beforehand, building up, dealing with architects, building control and stuff like that. Before I threw myself into it
So I've guaranteed the person 320. And I've priced the refurb about 150. And anything above that, up to 550, uh, is mine yours. And then anything above that's 50, 50 between the twos.
The assisted sale structure with guaranteed returns to the original owner plus profit-sharing above a threshold is fairly conventional in property circles. The approach of working with stagers, architects, and specialists upfront is best practice but not novel. The conversation relies heavily on familiar property refurbishment narratives (listed building challenges, open-plan kitchens, neutral color schemes) without offering contrarian perspectives or fresh frameworks.
I always get a stager out. So I post a stalker on. I always get a stager out before I start. And she helps me with interior design, uh, and whatnot
You've got to make sure everybody wins. Yeah. You know, even like the estate agent, I'm giving him m like 1% usually I'm 0.75 and he's helping me for the start.
Jason Kelly is an experienced property developer who has completed multiple refurbishment projects and assisted sales. He demonstrates genuine operational expertise in navigating listed building constraints, deal negotiation, and project management. However, he is not a household name or recognized industry thought leader, and the interview format does not establish his track record or credentials independently. His value is primarily as a practitioner demonstrating execution rather than as a recognized authority.
I mean, the first one that you came to, that one, my first one, that was the first. And I never knew anything how to do a refurb, never knew where to start.
I'm doing three, just finished two. I've got another three.
The episode includes concrete numbers: £320k guaranteed to owner, £150k refurb budget, expected sale price of £600k, profit split above £550k, 1% agent commission (0.75% baseline), £2.5k for aluminum sliding doors, £25 windows at £17k for wood-effect PVC. Specific locations mentioned (Eaglesham, East Renfrewshire, Glasgow's Garnet Hill). However, the narrative lacks comparative data, historical performance metrics on similar projects, or evidence about actual returns realized. Most specificity is about this single project rather than patterns or benchmarks.
So we're hoping to get maybe 600 for this. And so I've guaranteed the person 320. And I've priced the refurb about 150. And anything above that, up to 550, uh, is mine yours.
Aluminium, which is about two and a half grand for a sliding door.
The host (Speaker A) asks reasonable follow-up questions and provides contextual framing (e.g., 'So you're going to have that, right?'). However, the questioning is largely confirmatory rather than challenging - the host rarely pushes back or probes assumptions. Follow-ups tend to be procedural clarifications about the property itself rather than deeper business logic. The host shows warmth and rapport but limited willingness to test Kelly's claims or surface tensions (e.g., no meaningful challenge on whether the profit margins are sustainable, or how often the sales price target is hit).
So talk me through it then. One of the words that popped up when we were just having a wee chit chat was listed, listed, building. And usually folks in the property world, it's like, oh, no, no chance, I'm not touching it.
So recap that whole framework there. You've got the deal itself coming to you through another party, and you've rewarded them and stuff. Then you've looked at it, you've done all the things you're clever at, you've done your due diligence.
Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.
Some investors run a mile from the words "listed building". Jason Kelly runs towards them. In today's episode, Richard heads out to Eaglesham, East Renfrewshire, to walk the site of Jason's latest project: a Grade B listed former sheriff's house, built in the 1600s, sitting inside what became Scotland's first conservation area, designated back in 1960. It's a world away from the £35k flat in Wishaw that gave Jason his start, but the fundamentals, he says, haven't changed. This is an assisted sale. The owner inherited the house from parents, who bought it in 1953. Planning permission was held for years but the owner never had the funds to use it. Jason has structured a deal that works for everyone involved. None of it is Jason's own cash. Two investors have funded the £150k refurb between them for a fixed return, one of them a fellow member of the PMW community learning the ropes by getting hands-on with a live project.
Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.
Speaker A: Hello. So here we are outside a property. We're going to go inside, have a walk and a talk through, see exactly what's going on, what's the plan with it, uh, what's the exit strategy, what's the refurb that's going on? And this is the main man who's in charge of this one, Mr. Jason Kelly. Jason. Hello, sir.
Speaker B: Hello, mate. How are you?
Speaker A: Here we are again. I've known you for a few years, right. We kind of bumped in each other through the PMW Property Academy and stuff. And I remember, don't know if you remember us, I remember seeing one of your earliest. I don't know if it was your first one or not. It was a small flat in Wisher.
Speaker B: The Wisher.
Speaker A: It was at the top level.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: And you were, you were just so good at taking action, doing stuff. You got that first deal, you were telling everybody about it and I said, that's actually quite close to me, I'm going to nick down and see that. And I went down that day and you were saying about the trades, what your plans were, all this kind of good stuff. But I'm thinking when I look over my shoulder and see the place we're about to go into, things have changed a bit. Projects have got a, uh, bit different, a bit more complex, 100%.
Speaker B: I mean, the first one that you came to, that one, my first one, that was the first. And I never knew anything how to do a refurb, never knew where to start. So I kind of used the leverage, the trades to direct me to what I was actually doing. But it's. People think it's difficult to get started and stuff and it is, but you just need to throw yourself in there, you know, I was a 35 grand flat, onboarded a client, sourced the property for them through someone else. It wasn't even a deal, I sourced, it was through somebody else.
Speaker A: So that's. I'm remembering this story now, you know,
Speaker B: and so like, that was a good foundation to get going and start to understand how the refurb went. Made Hunter's mistakes, but lessons, lessons learned, Hunner's lessons. This one's just another level, you know, or two.
Speaker A: Or two. So talk me through it then. One of the words that popped up when we were just having a wee chit chat was listed, listed, building. And usually folks in the property world, it's like, oh, no, no chance, I'm not touching it. Grade B. Is that correct? That's correct. How have you found that?
Speaker B: Uh, see the thing Lusty buildings and stuff like that. Like, it doesn't give me the fear, you know, it doesn't give me the fear because, I mean, it's a challenge. That's what we're here today. We're here to solve the challenges.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker B: You know, I mean, we're here to solve challenges other people don't want to. So I done my homework on it. I've done about three, four months actually beforehand.
Speaker A: Brilliant.
Speaker B: Building up, dealing with architects, building control and stuff like that. Before I threw myself into it. Wow. And before I negotiated a deal as well. So it's grade B. So it's. No, there's already planning in place for this.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: So this is, uh, assisted sale I'm doing here. And I've got a lot of joy with assisted sales recently.
Speaker A: So I've seen so many, um, kind of stories. You're doing the kind of deals you've already accomplished. I thought he's really, is it fair to say, specialising in that strategy?
Speaker B: I would say so. I'm doing three, just finished two. I've got another three. Basically this property was the person who owns this, uh, actually get planning for it, like many years ago, and then I don't think they had the money at the time to follow through with
Speaker A: it, to actually implement it.
Speaker B: Uh, so I've kind of come in and said to them, listen, we'll do the extension in the bank, right. We're complying with planning as well for that portion. We're not doing the rest of the planning. There's like an outhouse at the back, you know, landing stuff. I was like, we're not doing that because you need to try.
Speaker A: You've got limits, You've got limits, you
Speaker B: know, and you need to try and weigh up for the value you're getting for how much time your money you're spending.
Speaker A: That's right. You know, cost going in, cost going in. What's actually happening in the value? Exactly. Is it just bumping up small bit and it's not worthwhile? Or if it's huge, then you're going to take that move sometimes, Right? Okay.
Speaker B: Exactly, mate. So I've got, uh, an agent I deal with. I tie down with him. He's based on about the area.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And I'm saying what value we're going to get for each part of, you know, the refurb, essentially the planning. And so we stuck with the extension for the bathroom at the back.
Speaker A: So we're going to have that. Right.
Speaker B: And then priced up the refurb, essentially based on the Planning. So it's like, you know, sashing case windows, you know, front elevation, you know, wood sashing case. Got to be light for light. If you look at the windows on about here.
Speaker A: Uh-huh.
Speaker B: But they're all sashing case here.
Speaker A: The whole area has that right feel to it, doesn't it?
Speaker B: This was the first conservation area in Scotland.
Speaker A: Oh, seriously?
Speaker B: Seriously. Since 1960.
Speaker A: Wow.
Speaker B: And it was built in the 1600s. It was all there.
Speaker A: Holy shum.
Speaker B: It was the old sheriff's house in Eaglesham.
Speaker A: So Eaglesham, folks watching. And Eaglesham. What kind of local authority is that in Scotland?
Speaker B: It's East Renfrewshire.
Speaker A: It's east.
Speaker B: So you've got that, like, you've got the, the, the drag of people want to stay here for the kind of village life. But they're part of East Wren as well.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: So East Ren Council, so you got the good schools and everything, you know, brilliant. While we moved and stuff like that. So they got the skills. And these properties go for. Go for a fortune, you know, we're hoping to get maybe 600 for this.
Speaker A: Tremendous.
Speaker B: And so I've guaranteed the person 320.
Speaker A: Right, good. Okay.
Speaker B: And then I've priced the refurb about 150.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And, and anything above that, uh, up to 550, uh, is mine yours.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And then anything above that's 50, 50 between the twos.
Speaker A: That's tremendous.
Speaker B: So the person got this valued a couple of years ago at 280.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And she get told that it'd probably get 320 in the market this present time. So I say, I'll guarantee you that anything above 550, which it will go for above that, hopefully, then I'll give you 50% of that.
Speaker A: That's brilliant.
Speaker B: So you wanna dangle that wee carat sort of thing, you know. So that's what I love about that
Speaker A: strategy and I love that about the way you've always treated people. So many folk have kind of worked with you or spoke with you or whatever, because you're like, I'm going to use this strategy, use this framework, but it's going to help me. I'm going to succeed. I'm going to profit, you know, enjoy m, myself, my family, everything else. But that person, they're going to win as well. There's going to be, uh, a feeling of comfort, feeling of security for the sailor and myself. I'm going to protect the work I'm doing. And actually, do you know something? Even if it goes to this level, that's the Two of us celebrate. That's what we spot on that as well. Because the market you can control, so you might as well plan for it. You say what if? And I love the fact that you've done that strategy.
Speaker B: You've got to. You've got to make sure everybody wins. Yeah. You know, even like the estate agent, I'm giving him m like 1% usually I'm 0.75 and he's helping me for the start. So you've got. You've got to reward people for helping you. You know, you've got to share.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker B: You can't be greedy.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: You know, the opportunity itself. Somebody who passed me.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: You know, I've passed them. Are we. Referral fee as well.
Speaker A: Brilliant.
Speaker B: You know, so you're just. You're speculating to accumulate. You know, I mean, you're. That's what you're doing. You're rewarding people for giving you the opportunity.
Speaker A: So that's how it came in the way it was through another property source or whatever who kind of brought something.
Speaker B: Something the tribe actually offered.
Speaker A: Brilliant.
Speaker B: They're local to the.
Speaker A: Brilliant.
Speaker B: They didn't want anything for it.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: I said last, I'll sort you, you know, so.
Speaker A: Oh, definitely.
Speaker B: Um, but no. So I've used an investor for this as well.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: So it's not on my own cash funding that refurbishes. Uh, yeah. So I've got two investors in this.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: Basically. And they've, you know, gave me the 150 grand and then they'll get their return.
Speaker A: They're getting there as well.
Speaker B: Fixed return.
Speaker A: That's fantastic.
Speaker B: One of them is also in the tribe. I'll say to them too. I've said, listen, because they. A lot of people come out, uh, like protege and they want someday kind of. I was like, actually.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: I didn't know what to do in terms of actually actioning.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker B: What you learn in protege and stuff like that.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: So I'd say to my son, come along, this is a cracking refurb. You're going to learn everything. There's extension, drainage, all the rest of it. Ticking all the boxes. Great B listed building. I said come and learn, like roughly what you're doing. I'll pay you a fixed rate return as well. So that's how I got them on board. And it's fantastic for both sides.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: You know, so. But I had to secure this as well. So I've got security over the asset here.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: So I've took 150,000 security.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: I did that with the person who owns the property.
Speaker A: Brilliant.
Speaker B: Just in case anything happens, you know.
Speaker A: Ah, yes, sir. Just being professional.
Speaker B: Uh, you're just trying to minimize. Every investment's got a risk, but you're trying to minimize and mitigate m risk as low as possible.
Speaker A: Correct.
Speaker B: You know, so you don't end up your pants doing basically, you know.
Speaker A: Correct.
Speaker B: So, uh, so I put myself in a position where minimise the risk and then we can move forward with it, you know.
Speaker A: That's brilliant. So recap that whole framework there. You've got the deal itself coming to you through another party, and you've rewarded them and stuff. Then you've looked at it, you've done all the things you're clever at, you've done your due diligence. Planning, architects, everything. Right, I've got that covered. You've worked a structure with the actual owner to begin with, so that it works for them and it works for you. You've got the funding for the refurb itself coming in from two other people, so you don't have to use your money leverage. Uh, whatever a clever person does, guess what, they get rewarded as well. And then at the end of the project, you then get an exit to step out of that, have that beautiful profit, share it with them as well, and then walk onto your next deal.
Speaker B: Exactly.
Speaker A: Is that a nice summary? Aye, because that's a nice summary.
Speaker B: At least you're listening.
Speaker A: M. I'm listening. I always listen to you, Jason. That is tremendous. Absolutely tremendous. So there's the outside of the puzzle. But what I want you to do is take us inside and show us the nitty gritty. Show us what you've been thinking, what you saw, any kind of, uh, you know, challenges you've came up with, that, uh, maybe your builder guys have suggested a few things, and all the things you're chatting about with extensions and so on, you kind of show us in the real flesh. Because I think folks watching, we love stuff like that. We love holes under the hammer. We love grand designs. You know, let's get into the nitty gritty. So can you lead us in and show us it?
Speaker B: Absolutely tremendous. Let's go.
Speaker A: Right, Jason, so we've came around the side here. You were telling me that the roof, which I loved about that history, the angles, the tiles, everything, it's in good condition for you. No kind of big problems there for you.
Speaker B: It's in good conditions. A couple of these slates and whatnot to replace, and we'll paint the chimney stack for that as well.
Speaker A: Okay. But Nothing fundamental structure.
Speaker B: No. The integrity is absolutely bang on inside.
Speaker A: So that's tremendous.
Speaker B: We need to do the guttering and stuff like that. Yeah, we'll clean all that out, you know, and the down pipes will get replaced there. Uh, extension for the drain and stuff like that.
Speaker A: Right. So this extension you're talking about, so this is kind of from the. Is it the exact same as the owner's plan and what he was looking for? Okay.
Speaker B: We're supposed to be extending out here as well to the back here.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: But we left that extension. Right. And we've just created this extension at the front. Right. The back of the property. And there was an old house supposed to be getting built like granny flat sort of thing as well. I just left that because that's the
Speaker A: thing you were judging.
Speaker B: Yeah, Sucker. The boys are still working there, but. Sucker. About 150k, I reckon, for the reform sort of thing. So.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: I wasn't wanting to start getting into hundreds of thousands.
Speaker A: No.
Speaker B: Ah, you know, there's a limit. You don't want it for the loves. It referred to there, like the kind of risk reward.
Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B: You know, you want to marry that up, you know. So this adds value because it's a secondary bathroom.
Speaker A: Is that what this is? There you go.
Speaker B: This is a bathroom here. So you've got a bathroom here. You went upstairs.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: So beforehand there wasn't one downstairs, essentially.
Speaker A: Gotcha.
Speaker B: And they only had one upstairs. So this is going to be here, one of our lovely patio.
Speaker A: You started going to get the tanking and stuff in here.
Speaker B: There's going to be a retaining wall here.
Speaker A: Is that as well? Right. Okay.
Speaker B: I stuck out just now, but then we've got the patio. I've t's down here, uh, up to the back garden, actually.
Speaker A: No wonder the they thought about an outhouse because the land is huge.
Speaker B: Well, look at it. It's unbelievable. I mean, this was actually an a gradient like that. It was a major gradient.
Speaker A: Oh, really?
Speaker B: We've actually dug all this up and then we've tried to level it out.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And then we're going to plant seed and get a lawn, a nice lawn. And then around the periphery just have like plants.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: I've already started doing the periphery there with the bark and stuff. And then we're going to build like rotate like walls here, 45 degree angle up. Right. And there's going to be a flower bed. So your patio there is looking for your flower beds.
Speaker A: Nice, nice.
Speaker B: And this will all be. This will be slabbed with steps getting up Here.
Speaker A: Uh-huh.
Speaker B: And it'll be a path going all the way up to the back as well.
Speaker A: Lead up there. And where would the lawn come to? Is it the full across?
Speaker B: It's going to be. Going to be the full lot. But I think we're going to put a path through the middle.
Speaker A: Lead through.
Speaker B: And maybe we're not sure exactly. We're going to do maybe some slabs at the back there. Right. Just for somebody to sell.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: People put their own spin on it anyway.
Speaker A: But that's the thing. Once somebody's in, they'll start to rejig a few things. Uh, at least if you've painted a nice canvas for them. It's a cracking start.
Speaker B: Exactly, mate. And plus there's planning for the. Let's say the. The granny flats or outhouse.
Speaker A: So that's there.
Speaker B: So someday. That's a good selling point as well. So your parents or whatnot, maybe want to stay here. Uh, a lot of people do that. You know, they stay outside or close by.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: So that's a nice reselling point as well. The planning's important place. So you don't actually have to execute the planning. You just got it there.
Speaker A: Exactly. So it's still an asset as an approved planning thing.
Speaker B: Exactly.
Speaker A: So you're selling that as an asset. So looking at the land and stuff and the dig out, any problems with walls, boundaries, title deed issues, tree preservation orders, Some amazing things there. Nothing to worry about.
Speaker B: We had to get an architect to witness the dig here. Did you, uh. An architect came out and checked all the digging stuff like that.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: I made sure everything was kosher. You know, it'd be too thrushing on that. Something else.
Speaker A: Just because it tying into the age and everything really.
Speaker B: Yeah. It's a green M Realistic building conservation area. So because you're digging underneath, they want to witness and make sure there's nothing there that's, you know, it's old artifacts, whatever, you know, good news.
Speaker A: What are you going to dig?
Speaker B: I know. So they witnessed the dig of that beforehand before we got here. So this was dug up before and then we just leveled it out.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: Essentially. So. Okay. But you kind of cut the drinking. You can't cut down the trees either because they're uh.
Speaker A: That's just. That's just how it is.
Speaker B: Ask for permission. Right. Lusty building consent as well in Edinburgh, apparently. So you need to get through that through the architect and all the rest of it. So some carry on.
Speaker A: It's just knowing about all these hoops, isn't it? And Some you jump through and some that's okay. I'll walk around that way.
Speaker B: I never knew anything.
Speaker A: Just leave it.
Speaker B: I never m knew anything about lusty buildings before this. And I want to say I know everything.
Speaker A: You never do.
Speaker B: You're just leveraging people all the time. You're just being honest with them. I don't know what I'm doing. Can you lead my hand through this? What's my options? People love helping you as well. They want to teach you how to do stuff.
Speaker A: Exactly.
Speaker B: And then there's business the other end there. They get paid so everybody's happy, you know.
Speaker A: Yeah, it's great. That's tremendous. I love that. Uh, the space is amazing. And the whole. When you look at that building, you know, the history, the character, it ties in perfectly with the village itself. But it's just, it's an amazing that you. Coach house. Did you say it was an old schoolhouse?
Speaker B: It's called I. The old schoolhouse, they call it I.
Speaker A: So did you manage to find any stuff, you know, old photographs, old kind of history pieces on it? Have you not done that?
Speaker B: No, we. I think the person that owns us, they inherited this. They were brought up in this house.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And their mum and dad bought it in 1953.
Speaker A: Wow.
Speaker B: So they'd stayed here since that, that period. So there wasn't anything like that, otherwise they would have found it sort of thing. It wasn't sitting for 50 years. You know, they actually, the lady that owns us, her mum and dad, they stayed here for many years. I think they sadly passed away a good few years ago now. And then she got the planning and stuff, you know, and never executed the planning because of the money situation. So it's a lot of money. Of course, you're paying it through a company and stuff as well.
Speaker A: Uh-huh.
Speaker B: So that's the kind of history behind it. But when you go inside, you'll see, you'll see it, you know, it's lovely. It's no lovely than.
Speaker A: It's gotta be. This is the great bits to see
Speaker B: these projects, the potential of it. I mean, I mean you'll see the potential of it tremendous.
Speaker A: So we've got the extension, we've got the patio piece, walls, gardens, etc, changing anything with. To do with, you know, apertures, door points, etc. Are you keeping that as is?
Speaker B: It will just be like sash encased windows right at the back as well. Right. We need to replace the door and stuff like that.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: That roof's getting replaced as well. We're going to replace that roof.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker B: It was old oil heating in here as well.
Speaker A: He's going to go. He's like heating the electrics.
Speaker B: So that's an old oil heating heating tank there.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: So we're going to get rid of that.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And we're putting in a gas central heating.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: So I've paid for SGN to come out and put a gas line in.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And they're going to put a gas box 1 meter from the end. Um, gable end. You need your listed building consent for that as well. A gas box in on your building.
Speaker A: Exactly.
Speaker B: Um, they'll not allow the gas box in the front of the house and stuff like that. The side of the house. It's got to be in the back of the house. So.
Speaker A: Brilliant.
Speaker B: That comes in next. End of this month actually.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: Next week. So, um, that'll get installed and then we're going to run the gas to there.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: That'll be outhouse, you know, that's separated from the house, essentially.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And then that'll be your gas boiler in there.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And your services. And we'll run new services within the property all the way through. So a, uh.
Speaker A: Lot of work. A lot of work. It's a lot of work.
Speaker B: But it's like. See, like this is the hard bit, I think, getting this done. But this is pretty much done. That's getting casted next week and then the roofing that's going on and stuff like that as well. So it's one of the ones. You look at it and you go, there's a lot of work. But it's north. Yeah.
Speaker A: I mean.
Speaker B: Yeah, it's just another reason.
Speaker A: Bit by bit by bit.
Speaker B: You're just. As long as you get the money and your money's right.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: You know, you're. Can I. You don't need to be exact.
Speaker A: No.
Speaker B: As long as Your money's roughly 150 grand. About that. If you're a wee bit more. Fair enough. You know, I lose a wee bit
Speaker A: of profit at the end of the day.
Speaker B: But there's enough on it there.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker B: There's a lot in it for me. There you go. Maneuver for me to maneuver through it. So I love that, you know, and
Speaker A: roof wise on this one, staying flat, having a pitch, it's a 5° angle.
Speaker B: It's 5°. So it's a roof. Basically a 5° pitch on it.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker B: So it won't be completely flat.
Speaker A: Do you have to copy tiles and stuff, is it? No, Ma.
Speaker B: We're trying to get GRP put on it. What's that it's like. It's a different type of, uh, roof to, like, tile. And it's more a resin sort of thing. You know, it's like. There's different. There's different roofs you can put on it. But we're trying to get. I mean, you've got slate, you know, you've got the slate, you've got the zinc. The zinc roof.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker B: So I try to save cost a bit, but no, putting that on.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: It's so much money to put. Put it on. We don't actually need it.
Speaker A: Yep.
Speaker B: You know, there's no wee thing ruined the back. It's not. It's not the point. Aye. Uh, so we're try to kind of, um, you know, we've asked Lusty Building consent for that.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: They changed it. So it's not been authorized yet. But if they authorize it, we're happy. Well, nose is going along and doing it.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker B: You know, of course, for the best fingers crossed sort of thing.
Speaker A: No, exactly.
Speaker B: Um, as well as the door as well, we're trying to get like, wood effect PVC sashing case at the back elevation.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker B: Because the windows are half the price. Of course, you know, you're trying. You're not. You're trying not to compromise the sale of the property as well.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: You know, but ultimately we were like 25 random windows. That's what it was for, you know. So for sashing case.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: 17 windows. Uh, for the wood effect. So we're going to put the wood effect in the front.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: The wood. The natural, natural wood.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: Actually, I maximize the elevation. And we're trying to get. Because my glazers, like, they're actually better. They're actually better. The UPVC is like. There's more longevity.
Speaker A: Yeah. Material.
Speaker B: Because your eyes are material.
Speaker A: Yep.
Speaker B: And a lot of the houses here have got them. Yeah. They've got UPVC in the back. But you can't really tell the difference.
Speaker A: No, no.
Speaker B: If you're an enthusiast or not, you would tell the difference. But we know you're trying to weigh up the cost. You know, it's an investment. End of the day.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker B: David's not going to buy that because if they really want it, they can put them in ourselves, you know.
Speaker A: Correct.
Speaker B: So, uh, as long as we get the. All authorized by Lusty Building.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: Consent and, you know, building control. Yeah, we're happy to go and do that. We're going to compromise in the door. We're going to put aluminum M doors on their sliding door.
Speaker A: All right.
Speaker B: We could have went upvc.
Speaker A: Uh-huh.
Speaker B: But we want something. We know it's a high quality, obviously, property and stuff like that, but we're looking for a high end. So we don't want to put a cheap door on something cheap and nasty. Aluminium, which is about two and a half grand for a sliding door.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: But the windows, again, they'll just look like, you know, they'll look like the real hardwood, you know, windows, hopefully.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: Again, we might still need to put the hardwood then. We're still waiting for consent back.
Speaker A: Correct.
Speaker B: So it might. It, uh, might be a non starter, but we've been told we should get it because every other building's got it all.
Speaker A: So the president is there.
Speaker B: Exactly.
Speaker A: All right, that's good. Right, my man, lead us through. Take us where you want to go. We can see what the story is.
Speaker B: So this is the van kind of outhouse area.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: This will just be a utility room, essentially.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker B: So we're going to replace that roof and then sheet all out, huh?
Speaker A: Uh-huh.
Speaker B: And then again, this is. We've taken all this away. There was like a wall here beforehand. There was a wall here.
Speaker A: Right, okay.
Speaker B: And it was just all shrubbery. So we've taken all that back.
Speaker A: Uh. Oh, was it?
Speaker B: And we've built this kind of weird retaining sort of, you know. And then you've got a 45 degree pitch flowers for another 45 degree flowers idea. As you come into a patio, you're sliding doors, Aluminum doors.
Speaker A: Yep.
Speaker B: And then you come out to a nice kind of view. Your flowers, your steps. Skin up.
Speaker A: Yep.
Speaker B: And then take you up to that lawn. Skin up. And your lawn's going to be. That will all be green.
Speaker A: Beautiful.
Speaker B: It's the right time of year, you know, so, you know, it's June. Plant the seed. Uh, tomorrow, actually, you guys will plant the seeds.
Speaker A: Nice.
Speaker B: And. And that should be ready to go for like, August. September.
Speaker A: Fantastic.
Speaker B: The grass will just be green.
Speaker A: Hopefully brownie stuff. Could see myself in this wee area where I eat coffee. Quite. See that. Right. So we've came inside and then that there is the extension we've just viewed for the outside. Yes, yes. Brilliant.
Speaker B: So this is. This is going to be kind of. The fireplace is cracking. So it's a fantastic opening in there. I don't know if you can get the camera in it.
Speaker A: Wow.
Speaker B: But it's a fantastic open. We're going to reinstate that.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: Keep the natural effect. Uh, a log burner.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: Okay. Also put the guy out for that to. To do that.
Speaker A: And no changes required, chimney and stuff. That whole flue can still get lined.
Speaker B: It'll get lined basically and then it'll get, you know, tied in and we're going to tail around that. Hopefully it'll look fantastic here. So this will be kind of your sitting area, right?
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker B: Beforehand I got a stager out as well.
Speaker A: Oh did you?
Speaker B: So I always get a stager out. So I post a stalker on. I always get a stager out before I start. And she helps me with interior design, uh, and whatnot, you know. So she'll say like put a three seater here. And I just plan around what she tells me essentially. Meaning it's my idea. Every refurb I do, uh, I just get somebody in that knows what they're talking about. I love that.
Speaker A: Exactly. That's why you tap into these different experts, you know, I love that.
Speaker B: It's all subjective, isn't it? To what you like? If I like something, does that sell?
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: No. So it's all about the area. It's in the demographic you're targeting.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker B: You know, and these, the period, the
Speaker A: whole property, everything about it.
Speaker B: Exactly.
Speaker A: I love that. Especially something like a huge fireplace, uh, this cracking focal point. That's going to be stunning. Brilliant.
Speaker B: So this will be the kind of chill out area. Right. Idea will be like a three seater sort of thing. Maybe a coffee table. Maybe your TV up here, I was going to say.
Speaker A: Yeah. That space above the fire. Yeah.
Speaker B: And then you've got your extension for your bathroom in here. So we've knocked all this away.
Speaker A: Mhm.
Speaker B: And that's your bathroom inside here. So we're going to have like a bath here, Lovely shower here. And then we've got the sink, sorry, toilet sink.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: As well. So this is a big bathroom, essentially two windows as well. Plenty of, plenty of light getting in as well. So in here beforehand we had a wall, we had like a segregating wall here.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And uh, this was your kitchen basically. So we've knocked this wall away. It's like a brick wall.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: Knocked it away, opened it up. So I've already bought the kitchen.
Speaker A: Have you?
Speaker B: I so went in, designed it and all that. So it'll be a Kenner kitchen. Like that, like you know, L shaped,
Speaker A: like an L shaped here. Right.
Speaker B: L shaped all the way around. And an island. An island in the middle.
Speaker A: Oh. Ah, lovely.
Speaker B: And then like spotlights like above.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And then again if you want to put your TV up. What not give you the option.
Speaker A: There must be so.
Speaker B: And then you've got your Dining table.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: Etc here. So you're just trying to sell that kind of, uh, open plan sort of living.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: There's no doors here. They'll be taken away. So it's kind of walk around like.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker B: And do what you want to do. You know, you can kind of entertain people. Not here. I'm talking as if it's my idea, by the way. She says so she's stuff if you're entertaining people, TV out, you're giving drinks and all that.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: But you've got the kitchen there.
Speaker A: Uh, yeah.
Speaker B: Big range cooker, you know, huge big range gas thing and everything.
Speaker A: Okay. Color schemes and stuff as you went to that level.
Speaker B: Aye. So you're going for like a generic sort of like beige kind of light colors. Right. So nice neutral. Exactly. Kind of like drench. Like drenching it all the way. Like one color. So it's like in a fuel when you walk in. So I, I just, I do the same for every house I do now.
Speaker A: Like brilliant.
Speaker B: Just do it kind of like, um. Skimming stone paint.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: The way around, you know.
Speaker A: Yep.
Speaker B: And then people just walk in. They always love it or something. It's just one paint color.
Speaker A: So easy for you and great for them. I love it.
Speaker B: But people only buying it. If people are buying the host, they'll know they can change the colors if they want, you know.
Speaker A: Correct. Correct. So it's a tremendous space.
Speaker B: Some space.
Speaker A: It really is. Right. Where do you think is next? Right. Oh, wow.
Speaker B: So this will be like a, uh, fourth bedroom stroke study.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: So whatever you want it to be. So we're going to run like hardwood flooring all the way through. Uh, and then people can utilize it for whatever reason they want. They want what they want to do. So. Yeah, like fourth bedroom study, you know, that type of thing.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker B: Or it could be a. A snug or something like that as well.
Speaker A: You want it to be separate, depending on who is moving in.
Speaker B: Yes.
Speaker A: You try to just give them the good spaces that they can then adapt to. Yeah. Because if they see it in their
Speaker B: head, they're going to buy 100%.
Speaker A: That's. That's the magic, isn't it?
Speaker B: You get the value of the fourth bedroom. So we're selling it as a four bed.
Speaker A: Perfect. Three. Just now you were saying, isn't it?
Speaker B: There's three upstairs. Right. But we're selling as a four.
Speaker A: Love it.
Speaker B: But then when people come to see it, they'll be like, I'll put a study in there. But you're still getting that fourth bedroom value.
Speaker A: Correct. How you live in it. Suit yourself.
Speaker B: Exactly.
Speaker A: Yeah. But you've, you've captured the value itself. Any other kind of changes and stuff? We've got, you know, existing place.
Speaker B: These walls are a uh, bit all right. To be honest with you. So these are all going to get framed and sheeted, uh, all the way around.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker B: And then like the services and that coming in. So the gas box is coming in there and that'll be getting like the walls going to come out a little.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker B: And then we're going to hide the services in behind there.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And then down and all the way through the house.
Speaker A: Okay. Okay. All these shutters and stuff.
Speaker B: I love all that stuff, I really do. We're going to keep all that.
Speaker A: Uh, there's something special about it, really is. And do they just need cleaned up or are you replacing.
Speaker B: No, we'll keep them. Sand them down.
Speaker A: Yep.
Speaker B: You know, and fresh paint.
Speaker A: Ah.
Speaker B: Uh, you maybe need to fill, fill in paint, of course. Fill sand some of the old cracks over time.
Speaker A: Ah, uh, fantastic. Right, lead on, my man.
Speaker B: We'll try to keep some of the natural like the original features and stuff as well of course.
Speaker A: Because it's a, it's a kind of half cost, half, uh, character and style, isn't it?
Speaker B: Exactly. Oh, wow. So things like this we're going to keep. Oh, uh, you know you can go like the Glasgow architectural yard and get. Now what spare ones are these? Because there's one's missing.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: But there's wee things like.
Speaker A: That's amazing.
Speaker B: You think about children or something like that. I was worried that people buying this with kids are going to squeeze through there.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: So we'll try what we are, uh, you know, I think we're just going to put more in basically screw them in.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: Keep the features. But then so it's safe.
Speaker A: Okay. Okay.
Speaker B: You don't want somebody. No. Buying it because they're kid.
Speaker A: Because that's the thing, isn't it? It's like the old style buildings, listed history, amazing look at the work and the detail. On the other hand, modern life, you know, the modern world, health and safety, uh, all these kind of things that you're trying to juggle between the two, you know. And if you used that place before at all, you get some old stuff out.
Speaker B: Used it once for a door basically. So I'm doing one in Buccleuch street in Glasgow and it's the old tenements. Garnet Hill.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker B: Off uh, Sake Hill street up there. They're fantastic. Like Original features in there. So I couldn't get a spare door. So we built a utility room and I couldn't get a door. So one of the boys said to me, go to the Glasgow Architectural A yard. I went in. It's brilliant.
Speaker A: It's just an Aladdin's cave, you know.
Speaker B: It's all the old tenement doors and stuff like that.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: They're about 100 quid a door, you know. But you get them dipped, got paint taking off them.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And then you can paint them or you can varnish them or if you're looking for an old. You know, to keep that kind of feature in your. In your house, there's always something in there that's fantastic.
Speaker A: It's great having these places.
Speaker B: So this will be. This is probably the second. Probably some of the one downstairs in terms of size.
Speaker A: Uh-huh.
Speaker B: You know, but again, we'll just strip everything. But the refurb isn't much inside.
Speaker A: I was going to say. I'm not seeing anything kind of fundamental. No. You're just making sure you're doing a good job with it all.
Speaker B: That's it.
Speaker A: Coming to talk about.
Speaker B: So people say, look at it and go, it's a lot of reefer, but it is. But it's no rocket science.
Speaker A: That's right. It's not really complicated.
Speaker B: You're stripping out building walls out framing, sheeting, plastering. That's it. That's what you're doing, you know.
Speaker A: So all of a sudden the place is transformed.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: Flooring wise upstairs with carpeting.
Speaker B: I'm going to put a kind of like luxury carpet up in the upper floor sort of thing. So, you know, I was going to. I mean, I know this looks nice stuff, people love stuff like that. But we are just going to put a nice carpet down.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: So it's like in a warm feeling sort of, um, thing.
Speaker A: That's it. That's it. Uh, and when you're downstairs, you're in that living environment, you want something easy to clean.
Speaker B: Exactly.
Speaker A: So what is the deal? Actually, I know you mentioned that the kind of hardwood floors in some of the other areas. Yeah. All throughout. Or tiled in the kitchen or lvt, whatever.
Speaker B: We're just going to have like, uh, a hard. Like lvt Probably.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: But I've not decided that exact.
Speaker A: Right. Still juggling with those. Okay.
Speaker B: Just. It'll just be a hardwood flooring probably, you know, like perfect. Lvt. Probably lvt. Waterproof, you know.
Speaker A: Exactly.
Speaker B: And then have that running all the way through.
Speaker A: Fantastic.
Speaker B: But you live and die by your decisions, don't you?
Speaker A: Oh yeah.
Speaker B: So it's like some people come in here and go keep the natural wood.
Speaker A: Hi.
Speaker B: You know, so rip up that. Exactly.
Speaker A: I know you can. There's always going to be different opinions and stuff. Uh but you just try to find that nice middle ground to capture more of the market.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: And make the place just look fantastic for the vast majority of people.
Speaker B: 100.
Speaker A: You buy it, you want to do something else. All good.
Speaker B: Exactly.
Speaker A: I love it. Right, what have we got through here?
Speaker B: So this is the bathroom upstairs.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And this is.
Speaker A: This is all they had bathroom wise.
Speaker B: Aye, of course. You see why we've done the extension.
Speaker A: Yes. Uh, it's a different way of living these days, isn't it?
Speaker B: Uh the 1600s, you know, so it's like that point in time 11 is a lot different to what it is now.
Speaker A: It's very different. Oh my God.
Speaker B: You still have like five, six people in one room, didn't you?
Speaker A: I love it. So nice and simple. Shower and stuff. Tiled up.
Speaker B: Yeah, that's with tile. Probably can have. The brass can affect. Can I be a bit more quality, you know.
Speaker A: Okay. Okay.
Speaker B: We've done that recently with the. The brass kind of gold. You know the kind of like the beige tile.
Speaker A: Yes. Goes quite well. So touch a class.
Speaker B: Ah. Uh, you're just keeping it, you know, uh, modern.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: You know, generic. So the walk in shower, that'll be kind of walk in and then your sink, your toilet here.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: This would be a shower room downstairs.
Speaker A: Already ticked off downstairs.
Speaker B: Exactly.
Speaker A: Love it. And nothing major to worry about. Everything's in kind of decentish order for you. Everything's fine.
Speaker B: You know, all the services know that at all already there. So.
Speaker A: Brilliant.
Speaker B: We're going to run new services for the hot and cold water stuff.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And no pipe work right up to here.
Speaker A: Uh, Right. Okay.
Speaker B: From the get the new boiler and
Speaker A: electrics wise, big problems. Rewire apparently changes.
Speaker B: Apparently the upper floor was rewired.
Speaker A: Was it?
Speaker B: Pretty recently. We'll get that checked out. So I'll just get my electrician to come in and do IR checks on the cables and stuff for that. Make sure everything's kosher.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: Or certainly replacing the board. And then downstairs we'll rewire. Right.
Speaker A: Because when it came to the refurb you were explaining that uh, it's almost a uh, two phase approach. You're using this current build team to focus on that uh, extension, the brand new stuff. Get that done and dusted. But you've already over Your time. You've already built up another great build team, your own.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: And once they've done, you're going to use those guys. Uh. Is that the case?
Speaker B: That's uh, it, yeah. So this the company I've got in for the extension, they specialize in like landscaping, extensions and stuff like that. Yes. You're overpaying in terms of what I'm used to paying.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker B: But you get what you pay for most of the time. Something major like that. Something major like that, you need to take off Building control.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: Listed building control as well.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: You want to make sure everything is millimeter, you know, and if it isn't, it's on them. They need to sort it.
Speaker A: Correct.
Speaker B: So it's different to me when I get guys and it's on me.
Speaker A: And you're quite comfortable way managing your guys.
Speaker B: Uh, you know, it's one of the ones if you meet an uh, it's like uh, one of your guys does. It's on me to then rectify. Yes. So I think you're better off having that insurance fact on that and start with yes. Before you agree to deal with the person.
Speaker A: Yep.
Speaker B: And saying, right, that's it. Paid for. Yeah, no worries. You can sleep easy at night. You know, doing something like that as drainage and all that.
Speaker A: Exactly.
Speaker B: That's major problem.
Speaker A: Don't know what you're going to uncover there. You might as well have that specialist in place. Yeah, brilliant. So more bedrooms around this way then.
Speaker B: Yeah. So this is another bedroom. So we're going to patch this door up. Just patch it up. So it's just one entrance essentially.
Speaker A: Okay.
Speaker B: And that was a kind of a personal preference for the person that stayed here before.
Speaker A: Oh, was it?
Speaker B: That's upstairs obviously in the loft. Up the ladder to the loft. And this has been another bedroom essentially. So all this will be getting taken out.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: So you're going to remove all this units? All these units will be taken out.
Speaker A: But I mean that'll really open up the space. Actually when you see where the walls are, it's a.
Speaker B: It seems like a small as a smaller bedroom. You know, it's still a double room. I still f. A double room in here.
Speaker A: They're taking up some amount of space.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: That's fantastic. Brilliant. Right, so that will be sealed. You get this here. Uh, and I can access this for the stairway. That's still the same.
Speaker B: Yeah, that's my sgn now for getting the gas down. Nearly four granted.
Speaker A: Just don't look at that, don't look at that. It should be censored out. Expletives. It just shows you. But isn't it the stuff that you've
Speaker B: got to factor in, You've got to find something.
Speaker A: Something that's not even at the property.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: It's a thing that you have to get someone to bring to it.
Speaker B: That's it.
Speaker A: And you're getting charged a fortune.
Speaker B: So you've got to have in your numbers again, you can. You can get that done cheaper. One I know of people have got it done cheaper and stuff like that.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: But I just don't want to take the risk.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: You know, getting the gas in and. Yeah, they did half the price. But again, it's on them, though. Yeah, that's right. It's an insurance policy.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: I mean, you just factor in the numbers, like, you know.
Speaker A: So brilliant that that alarm is getting off because of how expensive I've got
Speaker B: a few of the alarms. Right, so this is the main bedroom.
Speaker A: Oh, yes. This. This is special. Uh, because the moment you walk through that door, it's the size, it's the space, it's the height, but look at the detail. It's the detail. The character is just fantastic. And then we're kind of speaking beforehand m off camera with the owner and stuff, where they've managed to keep a mould for this work to help you repair.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: And you're going to be able to capture that and keep that stuff.
Speaker B: So the mold's actually here.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: Ah, for that.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: And the idea is you just get that, uh, like replicated, essentially.
Speaker A: Tremendous.
Speaker B: And then you stick them on. Essentially.
Speaker A: Yeah. Because these things are so different. You know, every single one of them is done unique way. So if you can actually capture it with the mold and get it redone,
Speaker B: um, you want to watch the owner's done great to. To keep that mould.
Speaker A: You know, definitely the top piece I'm trying to see, is that on okay. Any pieces.
Speaker B: That's fine, actually.
Speaker A: Seems okay.
Speaker B: Yeah, it's fine. So in the middle, that's fine as well. We'll get it all painted, you know, painted up and stuff like that.
Speaker A: So.
Speaker B: But that's the master.
Speaker A: You might not know yet, but any contrasting with the painting to make it jump out or trying to keep it like that.
Speaker B: I'll be honest with you right now, versus having it the one color, just that one base, because there's a.
Speaker A: To be honest, there's enough detail there that it lifts it out the same colour anyway. Going about pernickety and stuff. Uh, it might be just a total Waste. Yeah.
Speaker B: Let it speak for itself, you know, bang on. And people just come in and do their own spin anyway, you know, so they might come in and they might paint it differently. So the idea is that, uh, you're trying to sell the house for the house, but then people can come in and put their own. Like you don't want any funky colors or anything like that. But then you come in and double paint it and all the rest of it. So you keep it at one color, you know, kind of light. Light beige or skimming stone or eggshell or something. M Egyptian concert. That's Carry On.
Speaker A: Oh, Uh, I love it.
Speaker B: Then they can implement their taste here. They had a dampness issue from upstairs.
Speaker A: Was it?
Speaker B: Prior to it? But it's all sorted now. Okay. It was a roofing issue they repaired a couple of years ago. Uh, it's just a legacy.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: Uh, so they've done that before, which is great. So brilliant.
Speaker A: And what's your stage? You said about setting up the place
Speaker B: to bonus with you? She doesn't really know yet. She's. She just mentioned. She was just like, listen, leave it a blank canvas.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: And I'll do something with it. You know, some size, isn't it? Like, it's fantastic. So she'll come in and put her in print on it. We'll just keep it one color scheme. Nice carpet.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: And I'll bounce off it at a time.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: You know, once it's there for a couple of months, probably six weeks away for that point. So. So I'll tie them with a vein.
Speaker A: You know, like the views and everything. You know, the light works so well from both ways. We spoke about the garden and the patio and, you know, relaxing out there. Out the front you've got this amazing open public space that's never going to be destroyed for you.
Speaker B: Exactly.
Speaker A: What a capture this is. It's absolutely amazing. What's been the biggest challenge up to this point?
Speaker B: I would say the biggest challenge is getting like lusty building consent, changing the planning permission.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: You know, getting your questions right as well. You know, because you're doing so many things as well. Yeah. Although the refurb is quite simple inside.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: It's making sure the integrity not good. And you're always going to find things as well. You know, find a wee bit of dampness from the outside. You know, the rough casting that came away okay. The water's coming through the back of the drain, essentially.
Speaker A: Was it.
Speaker B: So therefore the water's getting in. So we need to do something with that. You know, so there's wee things you find as well that the other challenges,
Speaker A: once you start to pull back.
Speaker B: Once you start to pull back. But, um. But no, to be honest with you, there isn't many real challenges we've got. We've done enough due diligence beforehand.
Speaker A: That's it. Uh, you've took in that, that time, that effort, that work to get it done now. Yeah. To then walk in it a bit easier.
Speaker B: Exactly.
Speaker A: There'll still be something that pops up you'll deal with, but the kind of heavy lifting, as they say, you've done it on the paper beforehand coming in. That's brilliant. The kind of cupboard space you've got there. Are we going to skim right across that thing or are we going to use that?
Speaker B: Uh.
Speaker A: Do we know at this stage?
Speaker B: I don't.
Speaker A: Don't know. There'd be nice kind of, uh, calls you can make.
Speaker B: Exactly, exactly.
Speaker A: It's not a major structural thing.
Speaker B: The guys are going to come in and hangs three weeks time, start the internals. The plan was to get them finished first outside.
Speaker A: Yes.
Speaker B: And then get the. Because I don't want these guys getting in the road with other guys.
Speaker A: Correct.
Speaker B: I know they're upstairs and stuff, but it's carrying materials up and doing and that's. They're in and out and stuff, like breeze block and all the rest of it. You know, there's all sorts of things going on, so. And there's plenty of time.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: There's absolutely no rush here to get this done right now.
Speaker A: Because that's the thing. Some of those assisted sales you're actually doing well, someone's living in the place and you're like delicately trying to work around them and sometimes you can move them out for a of couple of days and back in again. But when you can get it unoccupied, you've. It's so much easier, isn't it?
Speaker B: Everyone Richard I've done has been unoccupied. To be honest, I totally want to
Speaker A: watch you pick the right ones, I should say.
Speaker B: That's it. That's it. So fantastic. Either unoccupied, usually people pass away or whatnot, you know, and yeah, they're just sitting empty.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: You can buy an assisted sale, basically.
Speaker A: So you're there to help. I mean, can I borrow blowing smoke at you? But honestly, the way you can work with people, help people, share with people. You've also had loads of that, uh, that community we spoke about, the tribe and stuff. You've had folks in here, haven't You? Yeah, for like open days and stuff to share and ask answer questions and that kind of thing.
Speaker B: Exactly.
Speaker A: I love that, you know, trying to keep things to themselves. They're like no, no, let's chat about this.
Speaker B: Oh, that's it.
Speaker A: I found this and I found that.
Speaker B: All right. So I'm going to organize one for the, the tribe in that as well. I spoke to Sean McIntyre about it as well. So just to give people a flavor of what to do and Yep.
Speaker A: Actually physically get inside something.
Speaker B: Cuz I can feel like not knowing anything.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: To now doing this. You know, I'm always learning.
Speaker A: We always started somewhere, didn't we?
Speaker B: You know cuz some people look, some people say to me I don't know how to do a refurb or how do I get started.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: I'm like you just need to go for it. Like you need to throw yourself into it.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: But you need to be cautious as well. You need that balance, you know, you can't just go and do something the sake of it.
Speaker A: No, no.
Speaker B: But you kind of let things put you off as well. If you want to get somewhere you need to take risk calculating risks, you know. But anyone, I think anyone can do it.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: Refurbish, refurbish a property basically because I like I say I've never, I've done the U1, you know what I mean?
Speaker A: I still keep visualizing that uh, to this it's like wow, what a journey, what a journey. And it's not even finished yet.
Speaker B: Exactly.
Speaker A: Tremendous. Well listen, if it works out time wise and everything with sellers and buyers and stuff, we'd love to come back and see the, the finished product, you know and then show those before and after. So I think it would be tremendous. But thanks a moment for your time.
Speaker B: Thank you sir.
Speaker A: Thank you my man.
Speaker B: Excellent, mate.
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