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The PrOTect OT Cybersecurity Podcast

Hosted by Aaron Crow

Despite the growing attention on industrial cybersecurity, there is still much work to be done to keep pace with the increasing risks. To mature and comprehensively protect against cyber threats to operational technology (OT), it will take collaboration among key players from various sectors and industries.

47 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2023-12-28 · ~50 min/episode

Rank

#2748

Substance

63.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Ops rank

#212 of 459

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Across the index

#2748 of 6183

Substance

Top 44%

outscores 56% of the index

Why it scores where it does

The PrOTect OT Cybersecurity Podcast ranks #2748 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 63.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Todd Beebe is a genuine 30-year practitioner with hands-on pen testing history at Ernst & Young, cross-industry CISO experience in oil and gas, finance, and chemical, and real OT exposure - not a career thought leader. His credibility is docked slightly because his current employer is deliberately withheld and he acknowledges limited time as an OT-side employee, keeping him more IT-adjacent than a deep OT operator.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

13.0 / 20

There are a handful of usable operational observations - using Windows Firewall as a compensating control to reduce patch pressure, the 2017 NSA exploit release as a ransomware inflection point, and bringing IT teams in as vendor-accountability advisors rather than territory owners - but the episode is padded with lengthy career origin stories, repeated teamwork platitudes, and mutual affirmation that dilutes the useful content-per-minute ratio significantly.

“if you put Windows firewall on those engineering workstations, whatever you want, and you block these certain ports from the machines that don't need to talk to them...I won't bug you about patches again because me as a threat actor, if I can't hit a port, I can't take advantage of a port”

“the biggest fear is this decision by the SEC to hold CISOs accountable for breaches”

Originality

11.0 / 20

The IT/OT convergence and 'we're all on the same team' framing is extremely well-worn territory; the episode rarely escapes it. The observation that threat actors have shifted from parasitic long-term data siphoning to short-term ransomware destruction, and the 2017 NSA exploit release as the inflection point, shows some genuine pattern recognition, but most of the episode recycles standard industry talking points.

“2017 to me is, is when the game changed as far as how no matter what environment you're on, if you got Windows on it, then the threat actors, this is what they're going to go after”

“the threat actors now eventually they want to be, they want to be known so they can get the ransom”

Guest Caliber

15.0 / 20

Todd Beebe is a genuine 30-year practitioner with hands-on pen testing history at Ernst & Young, cross-industry CISO experience in oil and gas, finance, and chemical, and real OT exposure - not a career thought leader. His credibility is docked slightly because his current employer is deliberately withheld and he acknowledges limited time as an OT-side employee, keeping him more IT-adjacent than a deep OT operator.

“got a job with Ernst and Young. They brought me down to Houston where I now live for a role to build their attack and pin UM program. And from there did two startups”

“been in oil and gas, I've been in finance, I've been in chemical”

Specificity & Evidence

13.0 / 20

The episode has scattered historical specifics - MS08-067, the 2017 NSA exploit releases, Banyan Vines, Novell, Code Red/Nimda - and the host's concrete example of 42 power plants supported by a team of six is the strongest grounding moment, but there are virtually no current named companies, breach case studies, dollar figures for ROI, or measurable security outcomes to anchor the operational claims.

“42 something power plants that I was responsible for and my team of six had to support all of those”

“Ms. 08067. That was the only one I remember because as a pen tester that was the bread and butter”

Conversational Craft

11.0 / 20

The host functions more as a co-narrator than an interviewer, frequently redirecting to his own lengthy anecdotes and consistently agreeing with the guest rather than probing or challenging; there is no productive pushback, no attempts to stress-test claims, and the only substantive question toward the end ('what's coming over the horizon') is a podcast cliché that the guest himself admits he wasn't ready for.

“I spent you know, five years as a senior manager there at ey and, and same thing like I never saw myself as an, as a consultant or an advisor”

“Yeah, 100%”

Standout episodes

  • Todd Beebe: Beyond IT vs. OT, The Common Ground for Securing Any Environment

    2023-12-28

    63

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 47 tracked in total.

  • Todd Beebe: Beyond IT vs. OT, The Common Ground for Securing Any Environment

    2023-12-28 · 1h 4m

    63 / 100

Frequently asked

What is The PrOTect OT Cybersecurity Podcast's substance score?
The PrOTect OT Cybersecurity Podcast scores 63.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #2748 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 56% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #212 of 459 in Ops. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is The PrOTect OT Cybersecurity Podcast worth listening to?
Yes - The PrOTect OT Cybersecurity Podcast outscores 56% of the B2B ops podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a ops operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts The PrOTect OT Cybersecurity Podcast?
The PrOTect OT Cybersecurity Podcast is hosted by Aaron Crow.
How often does The PrOTect OT Cybersecurity Podcast publish?
The PrOTect OT Cybersecurity Podcast publishes weekly, has 47 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2023-12-28.
Which The PrOTect OT Cybersecurity Podcast episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Todd Beebe: Beyond IT vs. OT, The Common Ground for Securing Any Environment" (63/100) - a good place to start.

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