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222. How to build a GTM strategy that holds in a downturn

The Partnership Playbook · 2026-07-01 · 9 min

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Key moments - from our scoring

Substance score

20 / 100

Five dimensions, 20 points each

Insight Density7 / 20
Originality5 / 20
Guest Caliber2 / 20
Specificity & Evidence3 / 20
Conversational Craft3 / 20

Phil Hay Sinclair explores how organizations can build go-to-market strategies that sustain revenue through market downturns, rather than collapsing when external conditions change. The episode distinguishes between activity and movement: many leaders misdiagnose slowing revenue as a sales problem when it's actually a go-to-market motion problem. Hay argues that resilient GTM strategies rest on two pillars - pipeline creation and deal progression - and must be strengthened before downturns hit, not during them. For pipeline creation, he emphasizes relationship-dependent channels (partnerships, customer introductions, executive networking, thought leadership) over advertising-dependent ones, since trust compounds when visibility dries up. For deal progression, he advocates for clarity-driven selling: asking "What needs to be true for you to confidently move forward?" instead of chasing urgently, designing momentum through clear next steps in every meeting, and deepening discovery as scrutiny replaces optimism in buyer organizations. The practical exercise - auditing every initiative to ask whether it drives qualified conversations or improves deal progression - helps leaders eliminate low-impact busywork. This framework is essential for CEOs, VP sales, and revenue leaders who want to insulate their organizations from market cycles rather than hope for favorable conditions.

Key takeaways

  • →Downturns expose weak systems, not weak salespeople - focus on strengthening pipeline creation and deal progression before markets slow rather than discovering new tactics mid-downturn.
  • →Build multiple relationship-dependent ways to create conversations (partnerships, customer introductions, executive networking, thought leadership) that continue working when advertising budgets pause.
  • →Shift from volume-based prospecting to precision-based prospecting by improving relevance, narrowing target markets, and speaking to commercial outcomes rather than product features.
  • →Use the question 'What needs to be true for you to confidently move forward?' to uncover obstacles early and design deal momentum rather than chase deals with pressure.
  • →Audit all commercial initiatives and eliminate those that don't directly strengthen either qualified conversation creation or deal progression - focus becomes a competitive advantage when resources tighten.

In this episode

  1. 1Go-to-Market Strategy Under Market Pressure
  2. 2Pipeline Creation Through Relationships and Credibility
  3. 3Deal Progression and Momentum Design
  4. 4Focusing Initiatives on Revenue-Driving Activities

Topics in this episode

go-to-market strategyRelationship-based sellingBuyer psychologySales process designDeal progressionPipeline creationMarket downturnsSales qualificationAccount-based targetingCommercial motion

Questions this episode answers

What are the two core components of a go-to-market strategy that hold during a downturn?

Pipeline creation and deal progression. Pipeline creation relies on relationships (partnerships, customer introductions, executive networking, thought leadership) rather than advertising-dependent channels, while deal progression focuses on clarity, structure, and confidence through designed momentum rather than pressure.

How should sales prospecting change when market demand contracts?

Instead of increasing volume by sending more emails or widening target markets, organizations should increase quality by improving relevance, narrowing targets, and speaking to commercial outcomes rather than product features - converting volume into precision.

What question should sellers ask to uncover obstacles in a deal before they become delays?

Ask "What needs to be true for you to confidently move forward?" This uncovers missing stakeholders, identifies approval processes, and reveals uncertainty while still manageable, rather than simply asking if a buyer is ready.

What is the key difference between activity and movement in a sales organization during a downturn?

Activity creates busyness; movement creates revenue. A team can double calls or attend more meetings while advancing fewer deals. The focus should be on whether your commercial motion keeps creating progress, not whether your team is busy.

How should leadership teams evaluate which commercial initiatives to continue investing in during uncertainty?

Audit every initiative and ask: does it increase qualified conversations or improve deal progression? If it does neither - such as reporting processes, internal meetings, or unclear campaigns - it should be deprioritized to protect resources for revenue-generating parts of the system.

What our scoring noted

Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.

Insight Density

7 / 20

The episode offers a handful of decent reframings - downturns exposing systems not salespeople, and activity vs. movement - but the density is low for a B2B operator who reads widely. Most of the 9 minutes is spent restating the obvious with light elaboration and no tactical depth.

Downturns don't usually expose weak salespeople, they expose weak systems.
Activity creates busyness. Movement creates revenue.

Originality

5 / 20

The content is almost entirely recycled conventional sales wisdom - narrow your ICP in downturns, relationships compound, process over enthusiasm - packaged in slightly fresh language but offering no contrarian or first-principles arguments a seasoned operator hasn't already encountered.

Visibility gets attention, but credibility creates meetings.
In stronger markets, enthusiasm often carries deals forward. In weaker markets, process carries them forward.

Guest Caliber

2 / 20

This is a solo monologue by a host who self-describes as 'your coach' - there is no guest at all, and no evidence in the transcript that the host has built or run a GTM function at scale himself.

I'm your coach, Phil Hayes and Claire. Welcome to the show.
You've been listening to the partnership playbook.

Specificity & Evidence

3 / 20

There are zero named companies, zero data points, zero dollar figures, and zero real case studies in the entire episode; every argument is illustrated with abstract hypotheticals rather than concrete evidence.

Imagine two organizations entering exactly the same downturn. One spreads effort across 15 initiatives. The other concentrates relentlessly on creating qualified conversations and moving qualified deals.
Many businesses discover they've accumulated projects that feel productive but contribute very little to either part of the commercial engine.

Conversational Craft

3 / 20

The solo monologue format eliminates any possibility of follow-up questions, pushback, or genuine dialogue; the host asks only rhetorical questions to himself and the entire episode functions as a prepared speech rather than a conversation.

What holds your go to market strategy together when the market slows?
Ask whether your motion will still hold when it does.

Conversation analysis

Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.

Most-used words

market12becomes10commercial9markets8become7motion7organizations7phil5move5leadership5deal5progression5conversations5conversation4means4episode4

Episode notes

Get the CEO Leadership Collection: Five curated conversations in a private podcast, each under ten minutes, on the decisions and pressures that define the role. Visit listentophil.com ABOUT THIS EPISODE What happens to your GTM motion when budgets freeze and buying cycles suddenly stretch? The strongest commercial teams don't wait for the market to improve - they reinforce the parts of their GTM motion that keep revenue moving regardless of conditions. Discover why downturns expose weaknesses in commercial systems, not just sales execution. Learn the two parts of your GTM motion that deserve reinforcement before market conditions deteriorate. Leave with a practical framework to refocus your team's effort on activities that create qualified conversations and consistently move deals forward. Listen now, then review every commercial initiative against one question: does it strengthen pipeline creation or deal progression? The Partnership Playbook is the podcast for leaders who want to grow with clarity, create leverage through partnerships, and lead their teams with meaning.

Full transcript

9 min

Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.

Speaker A: Hi, it's Phil Hayes. Sinclair. Thank you so much for being here. If you've listened before, shared a moment from the show, or even just used one idea in a real conversation, that means more than you might think. Every episode of this podcast is designed to help leaders just like you, think more clearly about partnerships, growth, and the responsibility that comes with being a, uh, leader. And it's grown almost entirely because people pass it on. So here's a simple ask I have of you. If this episode gives you language, clarity, or a moment of perspective, consider sharing it with one person who's carrying a lot right now. It could be an entrepreneur, a CEO, or a leader that you respect. That's how this work travels, quietly but meaningfully. All right, let's begin. What holds your go to market strategy together when the market slows? This is the partnership playbook, the podcast for leaders who want to grow with clarity, create leverage through partnerships, and bring real meaning to their teams. I'm your coach, Phil Hayes and Claire. Welcome to the show. You know, markets have a rhythm. There are periods where demand feels almost effortless. Budgets are available. Buyers move quickly. Small mistakes are hidden by strong market momentum. Then the market changes. Budgets freeze, Buying commitments grow, Procurement becomes more involved. Deals that look certain begin to drift. And then forecasts become less reliable. The same sales team, the same product, the same strategy suddenly delivers very different results. When that happens, many leadership teams assume that they a sales problem. Well, often they don't. They have a go to market motion problem. A strong go to market motion isn't designed for favorable conditions. It's designed to continue producing opportunities when favorable conditions disappear. That's the difference I want to explore with you today. Because downturns don't usually expose weak salespeople, they expose weak systems. The organizations that continue growing through uncertainty rarely discover a new tactic halfway through a downturn. More often, they've already strengthened the parts of their commercial engine that matter most before everyone else realized they needed to. The encouraging part is this. You don't need 20 initiatives. You need clarity about the two parts of your go to market motion that determine whether revenue continues to move when everything else slows down. The first is pipeline creation, and the second is deal progression. Strengthen those two areas before the market turns, and you'll give your business a very different experience from competitors who rely on momentum alone. So let's begin with pipeline. One of the first casualties of a slowing market is inbound demand. Marketing efficiency drops. Referrals become less frequent. Prospects delay responding. Companies waiting for opportunities to arrive often discover There simply aren't enough arriving anymore. That's why resilient organizations build multiple ways of creating conversations. Partnerships become more valuable. Customer introductions become more intentional. Executive networking matters more thought leadership carries more weight. And target account outreach becomes disciplined rather than occasional. Notice the common thread. None of these depend entirely on advertising budgets or favorable marketing sentiment. They depend on relationships because relationship compound. When advertising pauses, relationships keep working. That's the important distinction, because when markets tighten, trust becomes a commercial advantage. People still buy. They simply become much more selective about who they buy from. Which means your ability to generate qualified conversations increasingly depends on credibility rather than visibility. Now, of course, visibility gets attention, but credibility creates meetings. And there's also something interesting that tends to happen during downturns. Many organizations reduce prospecting because response rates fall stronger. Organizations, on the other hand, increase the quality of prospecting instead. Instead of sending more emails, they improve relevance. Instead of widening target markets, they narrow it. Instead of talking about product features, they speak directly to commercial outcomes. Buyers are under pressure to deliver. The volume becomes precision. And that's how pipeline continues growing even when overall demand contracts. Now let's move to the second part of the motion. Deal progression. This is where many forecasts quietly fall apart. The opportunity enters the CRM. The buyer sounds interested, meetings happen, everyone feels positive. Then nothing happens. The opportunity sits, the weeks pass, new stakeholders appear, budget reviews begin, decision dates move. That's not unusual. It's what uncertainty looks like inside buying organizations. Because when pressure increases, companies naturally become more cautious and more people become involved because more people are accountable. The mistake many sellers make is interpreting slower progress as a reason to apply more pressure. Usually the opposite is needed. More clarity, better structure, and greater confidence. One of the simplest questions you can ask through a sales process is this. What needs to be true for you to confidently move forward? It's a remarkably different conversation from asking whether somebody is ready to buy. Because it uncovers obstacles while they're still manageable. It surfaces missing stakeholders, it identifies approval processes, and it reveals uncertainty before it becomes delay. The big idea here is that good deal progression isn't about chasing, it's about designing momentum. That means every meeting should produce one clear outcome. One agreed next step, one identified decision, or one reason for another conversation. If meetings repeatedly end with we'll come back to you, your process isn't progressing, it's pausing. And there's another principle worth remembering. In stronger markets, enthusiasm often carries deals forward. In weaker markets, process carries them forward. That means your qualification becomes more important. Your discovery becomes deeper. Your understanding of the customer's commercial priorities becomes sharper. You're no longer selling into optimism. You're selling into scrutiny. That changes the quality of conversations required. And this is at the center of today's conversation. When markets slow, companies don't need more activity. They need stronger movement. Activity creates busyness. Movement creates revenue. And you and I both know those aren't the same thing. You can double down on the number of calls while creating fewer meaningful opportunities. You can attend more meetings while advancing fewer deals. The question isn't whether your team is busy. The question is whether your commercial motion keeps creating progress. So here's something practical you can use with your leadership team over the next week. Take every commercial initiative you're currently running and ask which of these two outcomes it strengthens. Does it increase qualified conversations, or does it improve deal progression? If it does neither, ask why you're investing time in it. And this exercise is surprisingly revealing. Many businesses discover they've accumulated projects that feel productive but contribute very little to either part of the commercial engine. Perhaps it's another reporting process, another internal meeting, another dashboard, another campaign with unclear commercial intent. There's nothing inherently wrong with those activities. But when resources tighten, focus becomes a, uh, competitive advantage. Imagine two organizations entering exactly the same downturn. One spreads effort across 15 initiatives. The other concentrates relentlessly on creating qualified conversations and moving qualified deals. Which one recovers fastest when confidence returns? It's usually the second. Not because they worked harder, because they protected the parts of the system that actually produce revenue. That's the mindset I'd encourage you to adopt before conditions force the decision from you. Because every market eventually changes. Growth returns, Budgets loosen, buying speeds increase. But organizations that emerge strongest are rarely the ones that simply survived. They're the ones that used slower markets to strengthen their operating rhythm, while competitors became distracted. So if you're leading a go to market function today, don't ask whether the market will slow. Ask whether your motion will still hold when it does. Because resilient revenue isn't built during a downturn. It's built beforehand. Strengthen your pipeline creation. Strengthen your deal progression. Everything else becomes easier to improve once those two foundations are working together. And that's where sustainable commercial confidence comes from. Not from hoping markets will change, but knowing your motion still works when it does. You've been listening to the partnership playbook. If today's episode was useful, I made something for you. A private podcast feed with five curated leadership episodes, each under 10 minutes. It's called the CEO Leadership Collection, and it's free. You can get it at uh, listento phil.com. that's listento phil.com. i'm Phil Hay sinclair. Thanks for being here, and I'll see you in the next episode.

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