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The Next Wave

Hosted by Mindstream (Hubspot Media)

Listed under Business, Technology, News › Tech News

★4.8on Apple Podcasts · 25 recent reviews

The Next Wave is your personal Chief AI Officer, bringing fresh takes, industry insights and a trustworthy perspective on how to implement AI to grow your business. Join Matt Wolfe and Nathan Lands, as they democratize the expertise often reserved for the boardrooms of the biggest corporations.

105 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-03-25 · ~41 min/episode

Rank

#2739

Substance

64.5

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-08
Updated monthly

AI & Data rank

#265 of 495

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Across the index

#2739 of 6219

Substance

Top 44%

outscores 56% of the index

Why it scores where it does

The Next Wave ranks #2739 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 64.5 out of 100, scored across 2 recent episodes. It scores highest on insight density and specificity & evidence. The episode contains several substantive ideas about AI development (visual explainers, interactive prompting techniques, Meta's strategy toward content creation, agent influence on purchasing) mixed with extended product walkthroughs and casual banter that dilutes insight density. Novel concepts emerge but are often buried within repetitive demonstrations and tangential commentary.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 2 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

14.5 / 20

The episode contains several substantive ideas about AI development (visual explainers, interactive prompting techniques, Meta's strategy toward content creation, agent influence on purchasing) mixed with extended product walkthroughs and casual banter that dilutes insight density. Novel concepts emerge but are often buried within repetitive demonstrations and tangential commentary.

“Take what you just explained about this topic and turn it into an interactive diagram that I can experiment with directly here in the chat”

“I think Meta's long term strategy is if we can create a platform that autonomously posts stuff to it that people are interested in, we can cut creators out of the loop”

Originality

13.0 / 20

The episode mixes conventional takes (AI as utility, humanoid robot tradeoffs) with a few fresher framings (agent influence as a new marketing frontier, Meta's creator-elimination strategy). However, much of the analysis recycles existing tech commentary tropes. The Sam Altman critique is predictable, and the Jensen Huang EQ-versus-IQ framing, while well-articulated, is not particularly novel in 2024.

“I think long term the definition of smart...someone who sits at that intersection of being technically astute, but um, but human empathy”

“the intuition, not the iq”

Guest Caliber

10.5 / 20

No substantive guests appear in this episode - it is entirely host-driven commentary with clips from Sam Altman and Jensen Huang played without any direct interview. This severely limits guest caliber. The hosts themselves are practitioners and content creators but lack the operational depth (e.g., scaling a team, building enterprise products) that would elevate the conversation.

“We got a busy week”

“You know, I have a few things about that”

Specificity & Evidence

14.5 / 20

The episode offers concrete examples (Canva's Magic Layers, ChatGPT vs. Claude interactive visualizations, Molt Book, Helix 2 robot demo) but lacks depth in each. Claims about Meta's strategy, agent marketing, and the dead internet theory are largely speculative rather than evidence-backed. Numbers are sparse (70 pre-built ChatGPT visualizations, 2 million Molt Book signups, 33 years as Nvidia CEO). Named companies and products abound, but financial metrics, deployment data, and measurable outcomes are thin.

“About 70 of them. Each one corresponds to a specific formula or concept”

“2 million agents signed up for it within like a week”

Conversational Craft

12.0 / 20

The hosts demonstrate genuine curiosity and test ideas in real-time (prompting Claude, experimenting with Canva), which shows engagement. However, questioning is often surface-level - they demo features but rarely probe why design choices were made, what tradeoffs exist, or push back on their own assertions. Follow-ups tend to confirm rather than challenge. The conversation meanders and lacks sharp editorial focus, spending disproportionate time on playful product tours rather than rigorous analysis.

“So here's the thing about this stuff though, is I saw this and I took it to mean...But that's not quite how it works”

“Did you custom code that visual or is that a pre built visual that's already ready?”

Standout episodes

  • Meta Replacing Creators? + Sam Altman’s Mistake & 3 Big AI Updates

    2026-03-17

    72
  • AI Tool Better Than OpenClaw? + NVIDIA’S $1T Prediction & AI Image Wars

    2026-03-25

    57

Rank over time

2 periods tracked.

Episodes

2 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • AI Tool Better Than OpenClaw? + NVIDIA’S $1T Prediction & AI Image Wars

    2026-03-25 · 44 min

    57 / 100
  • Meta Replacing Creators? + Sam Altman’s Mistake & 3 Big AI Updates

    2026-03-17 · 1h 28m

    72 / 100

What listeners say on Apple Podcasts

★★★★★
Great cross section of AI reviews and product chat
This podcast is one of the best that discussing Ai business topics without getting to technical about the underlying tech. Real world advice from people active using and testing what they utilize.

- BryanMully

★★★★★
Most insightful
Hands down the most insightful and actionable pod for staying on top of where AI is heading in the business / marketing space.

- JWH-2020

Frequently asked

What is The Next Wave's substance score?
The Next Wave scores 64.5 out of 100 for substance and ranks #2739 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 56% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #265 of 495 in AI & Data. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is The Next Wave worth listening to?
Yes - The Next Wave outscores 56% of the B2B ai & data podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a ai & data operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts The Next Wave?
The Next Wave is hosted by Mindstream (Hubspot Media).
How often does The Next Wave publish?
The Next Wave publishes weekly, has 105 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-03-25.
Which The Next Wave episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Meta Replacing Creators? + Sam Altman’s Mistake & 3 Big AI Updates" (72/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

OpenAI · 2NvidiaOpenClawGoogle CloudAmazon AWSGroqNemoAppleCerebrasClaudeAnthropicChatGPTCanvaFacebookGeminiPerplexityGoogleDeepMind

Guests who've appeared

Joe Fear · 2

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

OpenClawPost-training optimizationNvidia GTC conferenceNemo ClawGroq inference chipsTest-time computeNemo-Tron-120BAgent-based AI assistantsAlexa PhoneAmazon AWSDeepMindAnthropicPentagonChatGPT interactive visualizersClaude interactive diagramsCompound interest visualizationPythagorean theoremCone surface area formula

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