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EPISODE 564 - Start Messy and Move Forward

The Millionaire Woman Show · 2026-06-10 · 12 min

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Key moments - from our scoring

Substance score

16 / 100

Five dimensions, 20 points each

Insight Density4 / 20
Originality3 / 20
Guest Caliber3 / 20
Specificity & Evidence3 / 20
Conversational Craft3 / 20

Deborah Kozowski challenges the pervasive myth that readiness precedes action, arguing instead that waiting - for confidence, perfect plans, certainty, or ideal timing - stops more dreams than failure ever will. She contends that clarity comes through doing, not thinking, and that momentum builds confidence, which then fuels bigger actions. Using examples from her own journey (three published books, thesis work, coaching business, speaking engagements) and everyday scenarios (first job, first presentation, first difficult conversation), Kozowski demonstrates that most meaningful accomplishments happen before we feel ready. The episode is essential for entrepreneurs, coaches, leaders, and anyone postponing goals, offering three diagnostic questions (What are you waiting for? What story are you telling yourself? What action can you take in 24 hours?) and a GPS-inspired framework for adjustment over perfection. She references Viktor Frankl's "A Man's Search for Meaning" to underscore choice as humanity's most powerful gift, positioning messy action as the antidote to regret.

Key takeaways

  • →Clarity comes from action and doing, not from thinking or planning - you learn leadership by leading, not by reading about leadership.
  • →Starting imperfectly creates momentum which builds confidence, which then enables bigger actions - small messy steps compound into transformation.
  • →Every expert was once a beginner with mistakes and awkward moments; what separates successful people is that they kept going despite imperfection.
  • →The cost of waiting and regret often exceeds the cost of failure, making hesitation the greater risk than taking imperfect action.
  • →Success requires a willingness to adjust and learn from feedback like a GPS recalculating, not expecting perfection but expecting adaptation.

In this episode

  1. 1The Myth of Readiness
  2. 2Action Creates Clarity
  3. 3Starting Messy and Building Momentum
  4. 4Three Questions to Start Moving Forward
  5. 5Learning from Mistakes and Adjusting
  6. 6The Cost of Waiting

Mentioned

Deborah KozowskiViktor FranklThe Millionaire Woman ShowA Man's Search for Meaning

Topics in this episode

Readiness mythImperfect actionMomentumClarity through actionGPS feedback modelViktor Frankl's A Man's Search for MeaningFear and uncertaintyFirst attempts vs. masteryChoice and decision-makingCoaching

Questions this episode answers

What does Deborah Kozowski mean by 'starting messy'?

Starting messy means taking imperfect action before you feel ready - writing a first draft you know isn't perfect, recording a rough first video, or taking any small step despite uncertainty. It's about accepting that your first attempt won't be your best, but starting anyway because action creates momentum and clarity.

Why does clarity come from action rather than thinking, according to this episode?

Kozowski argues that thinking alone cannot provide the concrete feedback and information needed for clarity - you must actually do something. She uses the swimming analogy: you can read every book on technique, but you only learn by getting in the water; the same applies to leadership, confidence, and any skill.

What are the three questions Deborah Kozowski recommends asking yourself to overcome waiting?

(1) What are you waiting for? (be specific about the goal or project); (2) What story am I telling myself about why I can't start? (identify limiting beliefs like 'I'm not qualified'); (3) What's one action you can take within the next 24 hours? (focus on immediate small steps).

How does Kozowski address the fear of making mistakes or failing?

She reframes mistakes as feedback, using a GPS analogy: when you miss a turn, the GPS recalculates rather than criticizes. Successful people expect adjustment, not perfection, and life is determined not by whether you make mistakes but by what you do after them - learn, pivot, and continue moving forward.

What does Kozowski identify as the real cost of waiting?

Rather than focusing on the risk of taking action, she highlights the cost of staying stuck - another year of hesitation, unexpressed gifts, fear-based decisions, and ultimately regret. She argues the greatest risk is often not failure but looking back wondering what might have happened if you had simply started.

What our scoring noted

Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.

Insight Density

4 / 20

The episode is almost entirely composed of recycled motivational platitudes with no novel, non-obvious claims for a B2B operator. The rare quasi-frameworks offered (GPS recalculation, action-clarity loop) are standard self-help staples with zero new depth added.

Momentum creates momentum. Momentum creates confidence, and confidence creates bigger actions.
action creates information. Information creates clarity, and clarity creates confidence

Originality

3 / 20

Every idea in this episode circulates freely across motivational podcasts, LinkedIn posts, and self-help books. There is no contrarian argument, no first-principles reasoning, and no counterintuitive claim anywhere in the transcript.

Every expert was once a beginner.
Sometimes the greatest risk isn't failure. It's regret.

Guest Caliber

3 / 20

This is a solo host episode with no guest whatsoever; the host is a self-described certified executive coach and speaker, not a practitioner who has operated a B2B business at scale, which limits the practitioner credibility available to listeners.

three time best selling author, speaker and certified executive coach, Deborah Kozowski
I could have waited until I had everything figured out before building a coaching business

Specificity & Evidence

3 / 20

The only concrete personal examples offered are scrapbooking and a thesis draft, neither of which contains any data, metrics, timelines, or named companies; all business and leadership claims remain at full abstraction throughout.

I have three children, and when I made the first one scrapbook to the third one Scrapbook
I sent in my thesis, uh, paper, my first kind of draft of a section

Conversational Craft

3 / 20

This is a solo monologue with no guest, no dialogue, no follow-up questions, and no opportunity for pushback; the only 'questions' are rhetorical prompts directed at the listener, which by design go unchallenged and unanswered.

Question number one is, what are you waiting for?
What story am I telling myself about why I can't start?

Conversation analysis

Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.

Share of words spoken

  • Deborah Kozowskihost97%
  • Narrator3%

Most-used words

first19waiting15action12ready10messy9start9learn9life8creates7clarity6three5forward5back5confidence5step5draft5

Episode notes

How many dreams, goals, and opportunities have you put on hold because you don't feel ready? In this episode, Debra Kasowski challenges the belief that confidence and clarity must come before action. The truth is that growth doesn't happen while you're waiting - it happens when you're willing to take the first imperfect step. Discover why "starting messy" is often the fastest path to learning, confidence, and momentum. Debra shares powerful coaching insights, reflective questions, and practical strategies to help you stop overthinking and start moving forward. You'll learn how action creates clarity, why perfectionism keeps people stuck, and how to adjust your course as you learn along the way. If you've been waiting for the perfect time, the perfect plan, or the perfect version of yourself to appear, this episode is your reminder that progress begins exactly where you are. Remember: You don't need to be ready. You need to be willing.

Full transcript

12 min

Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.

Deborah Kozowski: Shift into an attitude of gratitude.

Narrator: Welcome to the Millionaire Woman show, where we'll be discussing leadership, business, human potential inspiring you to live rich from the inside out, unlock your creativity, stretch out of your comfort zone, break through your barriers, take inspired action and achieve epic results. Now, here's your host, three time best selling author, speaker and certified executive coach, Deborah Kozowski. Foreign.

Deborah Kozowski: Uh, and welcome to the Millionaire Woman Show. I'm your host, Deborah Kozowski. And today we are talking about starting messy and moving forward. And it stops. More dreams than failure ever will. Waiting. Waiting until we feel ready. Waiting until we know enough. Waiting until we're more confident. We waiting till the timing is perfect. Waiting until there's certainty. The problem is that many people spend so much time waiting, but they never actually begin. If you've been telling yourself, when this happens, then I'll do that. This episode is for you. Because the truth is, you don't need to be ready. You need to be willing. You need to be willing to start messy. You need to be willing to take imperfect action. You need to be willing to learn as you go. And when you do something remarkable happens. You begin creating momentum. See, there's a myth to readiness. Let's start talking about readiness. You know, people think that they have. What does it actually mean to be ready? For many people, being ready means confident. It means having all the answers. It means having the perfect plan. It means eliminating the uncertainty. But if we're honest, some of the most meaningful things we've ever done in life happened before we felt ready. When I think about readiness, I think about the night before a, uh, road race. You see the pictures of the athletes laying out their bib numbers, their running shoes, what they're wearing, their socks, water bottle. It's kind of this ritual, so you make sure you don't forget anything that you want to have with you at the race. And yet, so many things, so many factors can play. A thing that even though you think you're ready, you're not actually fully ready. Think about your first day at a new job. Think about the first time you became a leader or you saw yourself as a leader. The first presentation you ever gave, the first business you launched, the first race you entered, the first difficult conversation you had. Were you completely ready? Probably not yet. You figured it out, and I'm sure it felt awkward. But you learned, you adapted, and you grew up. The reality is that readiness is often something we're experiencing looking backward, not forward. We look back and say, I was more capable than I thought. But in the moment, it rarely feels that way. And action creates clarity. One of the biggest misconceptions people have is believing that clarity comes before action. They think, once I know exactly what to do, I'll begin. But clarity doesn't come from thinking. Clarity comes from doing. Imagine trying to learn how to swim by reading books. You can study every technique, every video, learn every stroke, but eventually you have to get in the water. And the same is true in life. You don't learn leadership by reading about leadership. You learn leadership by leading. You don't become confident by thinking about confidence. You become confident by taking action despite the fear. Every step provides feedback. Every action teaches you something. And every experience reveals information that you wouldn't have known sitting on the sidelines. Momentum creates momentum. Momentum creates confidence, and confidence creates bigger actions. So why not start messy? I want to give you permission today. Start messy. Your first draft won't be your best draft. And I know this because I sent in my thesis, uh, paper, my first kind of draft of a section. And I knew it was the first draft. So whenever the feedback came back, you know, they were like, you know, consider this is a learning opportunity. This is your first draft. And I'm like, yeah, I'm taking it for what it is. I'm looking for the feedback, and I'll adjust as I go. But that's taken me years to get to that. You know, three books and now, uh, a thesis paper. It's really, um, taking me a time to be able to just be messy and know that it's okay. Your first video won't be your best video. Heck, I remember I have three children, and when I made the first one scrapbook to the third one Scrapbook, man, my skills really improved. So much so that I wanted to go back to the first one and redo it all, which, of course, I haven't done. But it's just is a testament to how much growth has occurred over time. And I want to reassure you that your first isn't always the great job. But you got started, you got messy, and you moved forward. The first attempt will be your best attempt, and that's okay. Some people never start because they compare their beginning to someone else's mastery. They see someone who has spent years developing a skill expect themselves to perform at the same level, and that's unrealistic. Remember, every expert was once a beginner. And every successful person has a collection of mistakes, failures, awkward moments, and lessons learned. But what separates them from everyone else isn't talent. It's that they kept going A, uh, lesson on my own journey. Well, I've shared a few. And there have been moments in my life where I could have chosen to wait. I could have waited until I had everything figured out before building a coaching business. I could have waited for before stepping onto stages. I could have waited before pursuing new opportunities. I could have waited for certainty. But I've learned that certainty rarely is available up front. And what is available is choice. And I believe that choice is one of the most powerful gifts that we have. And if you ever get a chance to read the book A Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl, it is one of the most profound books on the topic of choice. And it has been a game changer for me to know that everything can be taken away. And everything allows you to choose which direction you are going to go. And choice makes a big difference. See, I believe that no matter what circumstances that we face, we get to choose the next step. We choose our response. We choose if we. Whether fear gets the final say. And often growth begins the moment we move despite the uncertainty. I have three questions want to share with you as a coach here. Question number one is, what are you waiting for? And I want you to ask yourself, what am I waiting for? And be specific. What goal, dream, or project or opportunity have you been postponing? Question 2. What story am I telling myself about why I can't start? Maybe it's, I'm not qualified, I don't have the experience, or I'm too old, I'm too young, I don't have enough time. Notice the story. And question three. What's one action you can take within the next 24 hours? Not next month, not next year, not waiting for everything to be Perfect the next 24 hours? Small actions create big transformations. Adjust, uh, as you go. One reason people hesitate to start is because they want guarantees. They want proof that everything will work out. And unfortunately, life doesn't offer many guarantees. But what life offers is feedback. Think of a GPS. When you miss a turn, the GPS doesn't spend 20 minutes criticizing you. It recalculates. And that's what successful people do. They don't expect perfection. They expect adjustment. They learn. They pivot, they recalibrate, they continue moving forward. Life is not determined by whether you make mistakes. Your life is influenced by what you do after the mistake. Do you stop? Do you learn? Do you. Do you continue? The cost of waiting. Well, let's talk about something we don't often discuss, and that is the cost of waiting. People focus on the risk of taking action. But what are the risks of staying stuck? What is the cost of another year of hesitation? What is it costing you to hold back on your gifts? And what's the cost of allowing fear to make decisions for you? Sometimes the greatest risk isn't failure. It's regret. It's looking back and wondering what might have happened if you simply started this challenge this week. I want you to choose one thing you've been postponing. Just one. And I want you to take some messy action. Not perfect action, a messy one. Write the first page, record the first video, send the email, register for the event, make the phone call, and ask the question. Take the first step. Remember, action creates information. Information creates clarity, and clarity creates confidence. And confidence grows through experience. You don't have to see the entire staircase to take the first step. You don't need all the answers before you begin. And you don't need certainty before moving forward. You simply need a, uh, willingness to start. The life you want is not built through waiting. It's built through action. One choice, one step, one lesson, one adjustment at a time. So stop waiting to be ready. I can't stress this enough. Stop waiting to be ready. Start messy. Trust yourself. Learn as you go. And remember where your focus goes, energy flows. Until next time. Keep choosing. Keep choosing growth. Keep choosing courage. And keep finding your way. Thank you for joining me here on the Millionaire Woman Show. I would love for you to go over to my website, uh, www.deborah kasowski.com. that is D E B R a K a S o w s k-I.com to learn more. And if you're interested in coaching, please send me a DM on social media and tag us rate. Review this episode. Let people know about the Millionaire Woman show coming on A decade. A decade. Seriously, my friends of podcasting, it's been quite the trip. As Muhammad Gandhi said, be the change you wish to see in the world. And as always, go out and make today great.

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