Special #20: IT Philippines - IT, DevOps, Tech Career Shift, Community Building

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Speaker B: Welcome to Startup Podcast Ph inspiring more Filipino entrepreneurs and innovators Live Tayonga Yon Ditos Hawaii Spaces BGC our official co working space partner and we have a special episode Isang um community is um Facebook group and active and Angandananga post dito related to tech to startups to it so IT Philippines and we have its founder Sir Ruel Nepal. Hello Sir Ruel hello.

Speaker C: Hello listeners and some viewers start up podcast Philippines thank you invite and uh this is my first time actually um

Speaker B: actually first time start the podcast that's why spaces so we've been partnered with you since last year meeting room but anyway about IT Philippines um when I saw the Facebook group um. Stories grow six digits members and thousands posts every day so gustohoden later m ask Pa' Adanag build and Paana Nagma manage Nangaritung community especially tech and what picked my interest the most so startup podcast is about startups mostly tech startups and post Dito about it but also about startups. So later I'll ask about your story in a very Just to briefly answer that question.

Speaker C: Um Philippines um actually IT Philippines is a community group for the IT people who are into technologies startups um helping others. The story behind IT Philippines is actually to help other people uh separations. So I built that Philippines because of

Speaker B: that and then during pandemic during lockdown.

Speaker C: During the lockdown. It's not really during the lockdown but

Speaker B: uh

Speaker C: 2019 so uh. Uh actually but uh the first is Paramakatolungsa community IT community talk about uh codes or network and work and hiring. So actually Philippines jobs. Post so. Um, engagement um.

Speaker B: Still filling out loan applications for your business? Yeah, thought so save your time grow your business with Credit Hero One online application gets you loan offers from multiple lenders Apply for a business loan now visit credithero.com uh during pandemic. Uh. Projects but to have an avenue for people to talk, communicate, share, help and possibly uh even if pandemic even if pandemic remote so why you really push that button and created the Facebook group IT Philippines. Okay.

Speaker C: Um, it's actually a little bit of uh backstory I started IT Philippines to help people then to share there's an avenue to share your knowledge Facebook there are lots of community uh IT community already I've been in the community for how long now? Since I started in the IT 2010 but there is no general areas of communities Nakonsaan Nas there are python Philippines uh WordPress there are language tribalism uh so uh what if I will build a group or community. Magawe Ally because of the language or the tools that they use for their work. We just have a community to share your knowledge, any knowledge so don't uh idea Philippines and the other thing is actually I am a self taught programmer so Hindi self taught uh so YouTube

Speaker B: University Bayan or back in my time or Khan Academy or uh okay um

Speaker C: I started around 20042005 YouTube 2006 so

Speaker B: uh forums.

Speaker C: Before I'm not sure if I know a familiar Danny Web so you're in forum Linda is actually LinkedIn learning so uh. That's my starting point and that's also one of the reason why I created IT Philippines to have an avenue to share your knowledge and ideas at least free. Some of them are uh monetized some of them are offering tutorials uh workshops but that's okay so core goal

Speaker B: just another audio story. You were self taught um back at it I mean you could have gone I don't know any other career M. Um M from scratch.

Speaker C: All right so I my first job is actually AutoCAD. Uh so my drafting, I mean uh drawing, planning. So uh my course is actually civil

Speaker B: engineering uh still engineering engineering at all

Speaker C: so that's my first job and that time is I mean design floor plan. So one time uh uh. Back in 2004

Speaker B: oh my God. Ah

Speaker C: I think 250 uh.

Speaker B: So.

Speaker C: Type. Uh.

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Speaker C: of sales. Miss 166 way back uh uh. 50k now 50k that was M2004 uh 50k 50k so. And then in our code and programming

Speaker B: uh so Yun Pala motivation for transitioning to IT Transitioning to programming and then another.

Speaker C: Uh Internet and uh jobs online so php WordPress. So abroad apply as web designer. That's my starting point.

Speaker B: So basically it's a career shift somehow.

Speaker D: Uh

Speaker B: or something like that. Anyways again just to be clear listeners I'm pretty sure Marami Dito is familiar as it in a word but just for a broader audience. Um and you mentioned that you also worked as DevOps DevOps developer groups especially my student groups But I always hear DevOps. I know the meaning of the acronym uh so maybe sir.

Speaker C: All right so it is information technology. So when we say information so usually uh uh the flow of information. So data. Oh data. Ah broad there's hardware, there's software as long as you use technologies that's called information technologies like in the uh electronics engineer. So they're still under it. Hardware so. Parasite hardware, software technical support. It's umbrella uh technology which is information technology computer science.

Speaker B: So um, computer science under it focus on comp size, uh coding and the

Speaker C: math coding, uh uh coding algorithm, signing architecture and software Computer science. So they can still part of m. Hardware software upgrade. Uh upgrade because uh hardware you need to upgrade because of the software. That's the reason why we have AI right now. Not in the 1980s technologies uh is better than the 1990s.

Speaker B: No GPU Nvidia so yeah, so young it I know uh, in DevOps or DevOps.

Speaker C: DevOps that's my career shift from being web designer to Web developers to DevOps. Okay so DevOps is a little bit broad oled uh in terms of meaning. But the goal of DevOps first is to remove silos and deliver value faster to the customers. DevOps uh goal DevOps remove silos. So it's more of um operational and mindset than a technical uh so right now mostly misconceptions right now. So DevOps is a technical automation CI CD. Those are words. DevOps DevSecOps uh uh GitHub actions Jenkins tools Kubernetes. Those are tools for the DevOps operations on DevOps.

Speaker B: Ah uh development and operations.

Speaker C: Operations. Let me give you an example. How does uh the meaning of removing silos and delivering faster to the customers. So uh sample Dito uh Mehrung developers Mehrung QA Mero operations uh uh system admin so the reason why um delivering of the value because of those silos. So parama uh remove natanyung silos Nayan Pagsama um Samahi natin sila as a team. So um instead of um developers team QA team operations team system admin team security team into one cohesive team that's called DevOps. Uh so that's why it's combinations. So isang bong team so uh um communication between them before ah uh M. Um wall of confusion. So wall of confusion it's a young barrier between teams not really DevOps. So then angustunya uh namangyari is anytime flexible Shah see operations stability so.

Speaker B: Um

Speaker C: fluidity uh. Goal.

Speaker D: M.

Speaker C: That's the reason why we have to remove the silos and we can deliver the value to the customer faster.

Speaker B: Uh but when you say DevOps or when you say you work as DevOps M you still have a specific function your security QA or manager flow non Development

Speaker C: my current role as DevOps coach my role coach okay so it's different. So there are DevOps engineer uh there's a platform so uh parama deliver value to the customer faster there's technically no DevOps role there's a DevOps mindset. So while I'm M DevOps engineer a DevOps engineer is actually a software engineer uh who is practicing DevOps principle.

Speaker B: So it's a principle.

Speaker C: It's more of a principle and practice mindset. So there is no also DevOps team DevOps team is actually the team that composed of people who are delivering the value to the customers. Uh so DevOps team now back in parentayong hiring uh a DevOps engineer uh platform engineer SRE those are breakdown uh umbrella DevOps or the start part umbrella DevOps so DevOps engineer is basically a developers or software engineer who knows the tools of DevOps also so silayung nang paper form uh create nang manga templates like cicd template Jenkins template Grovy engineer I said they are the one who created those flow paramakaron automations Paramas mobilization delivery so those are the DevOps engineer. So yeah so my role as DevOps coach is to find that uh gaps to assess that team in order for them

Speaker B: M

Speaker C: and then help them to achieve that with that goal.

Speaker B: Oh uh oh first thing um so somehow palang DevOps engineer it's also like just to give the analogy somehow process engineer but for the software development to make it smooth to make it efficient to make it connected and manager um

Speaker C: enablement uh so Indisha manager he works with the delivery manager. Uh so uh m uh Naga assessing assessment DevOps assessment uh so capability gaps uh uh engineer so it's capability gap so DevOps in DevOps 3 way of DevOps flow so principle of flow feedback loop and continuous learning so flow so once my I use my team uh flow next is I use in my automation see automate uh areas automate so flow Next is your feedback so feedback loop so once feedback loop so every aspects of your of your uh pipelines we call it pipelines Mehrung feedback loop so it needs to have a feedback from one person to another person. So agile under uh Yananga umbrella well agile is uh DevOps is under um umbrella agile so

Speaker B: yeah but I'm getting it's well basically it's a principle for software development for fast uh deliver fast value. So this was also self taught?

Speaker D: No.

Speaker B: So you Also self studied DevOps just to continue the story um you mentioned you were a website Developer, uh, and build your career into being a DevOps coach. I believe maybe startups. I believe you work also in corporate or uh, smaller businesses or maybe startups. So maybe

Speaker C: journey interview by no interview.

Speaker B: Job interview.

Speaker C: Okay. Um,

Speaker B: it's inspiring for other people. Um, career shift kumbaga and especially ah from another discipline field. Pero they want to start a tech startup to be into tech and they really want to learn. So I think um, inspiration or lessons from your journey.

Speaker E: Yeah.

Speaker C: All right. So I started as web designer uh way back 2010. So it's a US company. So it's actually CMS. We do CMS, a content management system. Uh. But that's uh way back 2000.

Speaker B: But how did you find that company? How did you find the job? Um.

Speaker C: Ah. Uh uh two days after office. So.

Speaker B: Uh,

Speaker C: My first way paramaka pazok is simple website as in HTML css website. Uh. Uh. And then uh, during the interview. So HTML css. So same as.

Speaker B: From the cd.

Speaker D: Uh

Speaker C: um.

Speaker B: That's nice. Portfolio. Portfolio Online portfolio.

Speaker C: So that's my first time. M. So that's my first time. So we're designer for two years and then uh. I didn't know now what I do is actually DevOps. As a DevOps it's actually around 2000 uh m. But some of my clients, some of my uh work on the side before.

Speaker B: For who sir? For who? Major buzzword freelancer.

Speaker C: So have you heard of uh upwork?

Speaker B: Ah, uh yes, yes.

Speaker C: Before upwork.

Speaker B: Ah yes, yes.

Speaker C: So I do odes before.

Speaker B: Uh why do you have the full time while you have the.

Speaker C: Yeah I still have a full time. So m uh deployment transfer file from local to server. So FTP so DevOps but that's manual. So file from local um open FTP Filezilla if you're familiar. So upload. So

Speaker B: I remember that.

Speaker C: So. So. Scripts. So shell script automate M code that's uh picked my curiosity into DevOps. Um around 2014, 2016. So I know automate buzzwords but I still continue as a software engineer, not a DevOps. So by 2016 I created a company called Rocket Host. And yeah I did create a Rocket Host. It's actually a consulting business for automating the process automation mostly uh server small business company. It's usually uh you cpanel uh webmail But I do automate uh before so I offer that. Okay. The problem is Midjo I know uh work. So that's why I have to close it uh 2020 but I still have. I still have clients. Uh 4 years so and then but before that uh consulting so my uh clients about automations. Automations and with uh uh DevOps so don't call uh so consult from being web designer uh developers to software being engineer to higher level about uh delivery about uh cost optimizations.

Speaker B: And now I fully. Not yet fully I understand much of it now I know um execution and actual delivery of any software project to uh a client up to deployment and to make it faster so you can automate a lot of stuff there because it's a process. Um and when you build Rocket Host may start up opportunity I think m somehow big steps startup opportunity here uh you can be a startup like Rocket Host now or like a consulting optimize dev processes DevOps maybe what do you think of that?

Speaker C: Yeah uh right now some big enterprise company they already have adopted DevOps. Um so most of them are actually hiring DevOps coach to optimize the team.

Speaker B: You can be a fractional DevOps coach. You can coach multiple companies.

Speaker C: Yeah actually yes I uh do hope. Hello. So actually enterprise level so the only thing is mostly automations capability building gaps, uh analysis. So those are uh Agile management. So many overlap between agile and the DevOps so like uh Iterations Iterative approach Agile yon so DevOps we call it batch size delivery small batch size delivery. So those automation and then focus uh on the automations instead of people but in DevOps cassette people uh organizations, teams and people the uh software itself to deliver BV SSH better value sooner, safer, happier. The happier part is not just customers but also the team that work on it.

Speaker B: M BVSSH I mean that actually means it's holistic approach.

Speaker C: So in holistic approach now uh and

Speaker B: actually um this is still a very rich um space now C DevOps and who knows ah companies startups can even adapt this and coaches can still actually

Speaker C: uh if you read the Phoenix projects or the DevOps handbook mostly um startups. So to make it faster, to make

Speaker B: it faster startups I mean very fast

Speaker C: uh Filipinas but in other countries like US and uh UK or Europe areas um startups start with the DevOps practices. Their team is lean so they can communicate faster. Because that's basically startups that's basically, basically DevOps already so and then the automation part startup prototype Nila some back end front end database API connector so and then Yumanga tools off the shop tools um uh like Jenkins Jenkins enterprise level but uh GitHub Actions is much cheaper and much faster uh to integrate especially if you're startups here in the Philippines. Yeah, they're also doing DevOps and right now with the SaaS. So especially railway, um, Vercel, Netlify, Heroku. Heroku is one of the uh, oldest uh, OG DevOps practices. So uh, they're already creating CLI, uh command line interface, mass mobilization deployment, um, with just the developers.

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Speaker D: Uh,

Speaker B: I think this is very broad. Um, first of all automate as a startup, I mean AI, I think it's automating DevOps. Yeah I think um, machine, you're really coding from a machine, really writing the code step by step, uh, no code and drag and drop etc. And now my AI nana became an idea, uh, concepts, information, knowledge and then it will make a software for you.

Speaker C: Actually your future DevOps is actually AIOps. So AI with AI operations now. So most of your pipelines instead of just doing one of these pipelines as uh manual pipelines do the AI pipeline. So every part of your delivery pass ah to the AI pipeline. That's why it's called AIOps.

Speaker B: M. Uh, this is very. So I think let's jump ah Facebook groups since 2020 rocket host until 2020 and then you started this now so I'm not sure you're storing on it on it Philippines ah before the recording mentioned managing problems better now uh, um, thousands of posts a day, um six digits of members. So how did you build challenges that you had to overcome and how do you manage? Because right now actually why I invited you to Sir Dido's podcast because I was looking for more communities related uh startups and Nakita Kong as the Philippines and when I went there posts um valuable spam or parindina nama moderate I believe CIT Philippines and IT projects I think from students even or from individual developers they're developing IT projects, software projects and some of them are actually viable commercially or pedding Ibenta as a service. So philosophy then community and any story maybe you can just share everything there is to Ivy Philippines so building a

Speaker C: community it's just happened. Uh, I don't know how it grow. Uh maybe Facebook uh help it but there's a way where we build the community actually uh known. Community.

Speaker B: Uh.

Speaker C: Uh, approved. But um, actually after two to three years uh 300,000 to 400,000 stall because of Facebook. Uh punishment punishment penalty time admin. So uh policy in Facebook adult contents image my manga uh copyright music

Speaker B: automated policy in Facebook flag and penalty groups.

Speaker C: Uh group now. So actually. Filter.

Speaker B: So automatic filter. Uh automatic filter uh of the new Facebook group. Um temporarily.

Speaker C: Uh, right now it Philippines Maybe because you've been uh targeted by the uh Facebook algorithm. But.

Speaker B: Facebook group

Speaker C: uh,

Speaker E: uh,

Speaker C: analytics. Anything Analytics. Ah, m admin. So m

Speaker B: How many admins covering thousands of posts every day Semi filtered and automatic.

Speaker C: My filter.

Speaker B: Or you coded it, you scripted it.

Speaker C: Admin assistant uh as admin uh filtered on characters.

Speaker B: Uh so you mean an approval for admin.

Speaker E: Uh

Speaker B: uh,

Speaker C: it's a filter approve automatic approval.

Speaker F: Uh

Speaker B: okay, this is actually. It sounds so basic. No it's not basic. This can set apart Yumanga Facebook groups. Many Facebook groups. Ah actually to be. To be honest because I'm afraid. Manage um like this and valuable M content and I think it sounds so basic filtering your moderation, your admin. There's a lot of thought actually that's been put into it and actually manual work manual approval admins for sure it Philippines will be just another Facebook group uh Napununa, moss, palm um etc. And I I believe m obsession or obsession to keep the community alive. What do you think?

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker B: Um.

Speaker C: Yeah. Is this among reason why Siguro uh active and alive Facebook is because I am um, passionate at the same time M uh. Um. Uh, engaging uh interaction. So actually my post alone Facebook group or my own My own post is around uh for 3 to 3 to 4 million uh views per month. So for the engagement long So I need to make sure engage FB Group IT Philippines Group. That's around 15 million views m engagement. So meantime controversial post engagement Facebook likes engagement like emotional engagement. Unlike YouTube.

Speaker B: Unlike LinkedIn YouTube then I think I think YouTube.

Speaker C: Yeah. So engagement words ah engagement.

Speaker B: Um I think number one obsession not obsession really I know Gustamonta lagama Build Yung M Community Engage engaged community. Not just volume, not just number but engaged number two. Number two I think engagement that you have to ensure active posts may it be sayo or others drive interaction. Number three. Uh, I think filtering underestimate Facebook groups 1,000 posts a day. How do you manage that?

Speaker C: 4,000.

Speaker B: So 4,000 grabbed. So you really have to automate somehow. I know automatic filtered automanga spam and then value but uh engaging or interactive in the posts.

Speaker C: So usually 100k, 100k, 200k. Your engagement is usually salary controversial post. Uh, Post. So usually my contrarian post is you uh, you poke the bear uh the consciousness of the people who's actually uh, doing it. So you have to do a contrarian post. Usually engage because of um, those posts. But that's basically how you. How you create engagement and how you create. And how you create uh, yeah, engagement and views on your. On your group and it grows and then post educational. Usually educational. Facebook especially. You talk about education directly? No, but try tweak it into like

Speaker B: emotional part and then going with her or for others then emotional education.

Speaker C: Uh, Viewers is more on um against. Now it's more on pro.

Speaker B: I think many career shifters into it. I'm curious about salary level. So. And I think number one vague. Number two so I, I understand why. I know why. Um, curious about that. Um, how about sir, you post community like I know usually my post Nila engagement.

Speaker C: Yeah. Memes. Ah, especially millennials. M. Gen Z. Gen Z usually memes. So one post image.

Speaker E: Uh,

Speaker C: Especially uh. M.

Speaker B: Sometimes I see your posts, uh, people inspiring I think connected to start a podcast. Um. Recently they developed an app. They developed a uh, software project and they want to share it to the community.

Speaker C: ET yeah actually I allowed that um, Facebook M Babalion. Uh, but. In the hackers or in the developers. So. It's part of the community. So. Uh, Uh, and the reason why I didn't approve, uh, Facebook I don't like links. So

Speaker B: outside link.

Speaker C: Outside link. So and the other thing is post so same picture, same message saying the hat. M. So if you wanted to promote on um Facebook or it Philippines group, you need to keep posting new content, new image. Everything is new. Um, um, um. Group same message, same lahat. Uh, automatically Facebook.

Speaker B: Groups I'm learning techniques.

Speaker D: Ah.

Speaker C: So that's why uh, every post is new content, new image.

Speaker B: Um, this is a very valuable uh. M. Create content for one specific group viewers and then post it there and then get.

Speaker C: Yeah, actually uh, I do some uh, spamming then. Yeah. So yeah. So I don't know. Here in the Philippines, I uh, used to be member of the groups, but they're, they're. I know young, active. Uh, and one of the reason is they're posting human members and then they don't.

Speaker B: Yes. Um, well, first of all about Facebook group building. Community building. I'm really afraid uh, of reputation startup podcast. Uh, I think it really takes effort. Right. First of all I take passion passion to build the community. Second of course effort to filter to Approve actual manual work. Uh uh, part non entered I believe sir Rowell algorithm. Play and my work around SHA paramaging. Okay.

Speaker C: Uh, the other thing. Uh, uh, Facebook is. So depends a group. Depends on our group. Uh, hours 9 minutes 12 um, noon and then uh, around 711 noon. Yeah 7pm Uh 7pm So 7am.

Speaker D: Uh.

Speaker C: Hours.

Speaker B: Uh.

Speaker C: Ah minimum post Although I know this one is uh normal millions views but a hundred thousand views every um, 50,000 views.

Speaker B: Um, have you thought about pe? You mentioned and you mentioned post and then educational. Have you thought about being like more of a group builder but also an influencer? Wow. TikTok. Uh YouTube um regular Reels clips. Maybe start with maybe TikTok one minute start a very controversial IT stuff and then the rest is educational. Uh what do you think about that?

Speaker C: Actually I do that. Uh, now it's just. Educational. Uh even in. Even in YouTube and Facebook and TikTok uh, technical usually if you look at Facebook uh. Um, Facebook and even in it pranks. Yeah. So

Speaker B: yeah yeah.

Speaker C: Ideas. Um

Speaker B: um I'll give. I mean technology somehow compared to comedy. Well just to give an analogy start a podcast. So number one recently start a podcast Ph Spotify technology Pero Yung recent Namin compared Samanga uh M comedy or non horror times 20 times 30 compared to comedy entertainment. So technology number one start a podcast. Uh, top 200 Spotify times 100 views times at the same time. I mean broader general entertainment.

Speaker C: Uh is m technology. So number field.

Speaker B: Number field. Yes, yes, I know. Yeah I know that yeah I do

Speaker C: follow kvd better in kvd is more on technically technical. Uh science deep knowledge um engineering every day Mark Ruber Uh but speaking of

Speaker B: them they made technology big.

Speaker C: So is low cognitive action. So uh, at least for Mark Ruber uh, low cognitive action. Um M. Uh views and even Sila Veritasia Derek Mueller Facebook uh around 100 Kang 200, millions, millions followers. Facebook uh is more of high community load. So uh, unlike Mark Ruber.

Speaker B: I mean to be fair um number feel very step by step explain explanation explanation.

Speaker C: So high value then and high uh attention.

Speaker B: Interested attention. I mean interesting. I mean maybe not sure if you become really a full time influencer. Wow. Although it's hard, it's really difficult uh it people.

Speaker C: Uh, the problem is editing creation.

Speaker B: I can help you with that sir.

Speaker C: Story building. Uh, if you wanted to create technical content it's well taught and will research and make it a story that it's really really low cognitive. It's and they will be entertained.

Speaker B: Yes.

Speaker C: At the same time uh, I'm not sure. Like Sila Veritasan. I watched Veritasan for how many years now?

Speaker F: Uh,

Speaker C: It's always exact M. 5 years old.

Speaker B: Yes.

Speaker F: Yeah.

Speaker B: Ah, all the deep. No, all the deep and the basic. Um, actually, we're about to end Dancer. Um, do you know who likes Friedman podcast? Have you heard or have you listened? Um, I heard, but I'm not actually uh, inspire. Three hours, four hours, five hours. Um, um, Explain. But it's easy to the ears quality video and audio I think of course after your explanation. But also visual and the sound quality. So you can just education but you can just even number field.

Speaker C: Number field.

Speaker B: But I actually follow number field. I love numbers.

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Speaker B: Um, just to wrap up this conversation, um, for IT Philippines moving forward, how do you plan to build it further engagements, activities or whatever, Networking spaces or for IT Philippines.

Speaker C: Actually IT Philippines are uh, also offering um, sponsorship then so we're looking for sponsors and then right now we are partners with uh, Mehrang IoT Conference Philippines. Which answer, which, uh, this coming November.

Speaker B: By who?

Speaker C: Uh, by IOT Conference Philippines. That I um, forgot. But uh, the person that uh to be contacted is Elaine Sidilio. So he's the one, she's the one doing the uh, mostly IT events. So we're partners, uh IT Philippines and they have, they have events this coming November. So Yoon. And if they want a company like Tech Startups Tools, the IT Philippines is the perfect, I don't know, M M

Speaker B: business model for IT Philippines. Since you have the Bulk or volume of people into techne

Speaker C: ads.

Speaker B: I mean they will you allow them to post sponsor hiring or they have a tech product.

Speaker C: Posting. So uh union sponsor for posting and the other one is comments sponsor.

Speaker A: Um.

Speaker C: Um millions of millions of uh views. So that's viral. So m. One hour.

Speaker B: So startup my revenue, my business model than something.

Speaker C: So yeah we have sponsorship partnership yes partners.

Speaker B: So and I believe these are IT companies. So Bakamaranjamang, Ibang IT or tech companies that interested group uh IT Philippines.

Speaker C: So yeah it has. It has 15 million views a month and uh it grows 2000 to 6000 10,000 a week. Ah now around 2000 members. Members.

Speaker B: I uh, m even students among holders.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker B: Um sir, if our listeners want to know more about you or IT Philippines sponsor or partner or IT person who want to community to learn, to share, to engage. So how can they know more? How can they join the Facebook group event?

Speaker C: Yeah. Uh, thank you. Thank you sir. Ah, invite.

Speaker B: Yes sir. It's an honor.

Speaker C: Thank you. D. Uh, I know partners White Spaces. White Spaces. So uh, invite to London Kayo. If you have a uh knowledge and you wanted to share join IT Philippines Share. Uh, share first before you get uh sponsors or whatever. So share your knowledge and then uh, if you wanted to sponsors IT Philippines get knowledge get uh our members then just contact Roel Dopal or one of our IT admin. So you just look at the admin space.

Speaker B: Thank you very much. Your career shifting to. To it about uh, how you learn about DevOps, how you apply DevOps and Rocket Host and of course how you built it Philippines Facebook.

Speaker C: Actually right now since uh I'm still in consulting so I do build another product.

Speaker B: It's called vts, the one you shared to me then.

Speaker C: So it's a transcription. So it actually end M 3.0 and then they build. I build product. But uh, right now the one thing that I build is vts, uh video and audio transcription, uh using uh AI and it's also live now in uh live already and it has MCP. MCP is. You can use it inside ChatGPT or Cloud already.

Speaker B: We can talk more. I mean we can talk. We can feature that as a startup. I mean and from IT Philippines, from IT Philippines Group. If you have a startup or a tech product, an app, a project now uh commercially possible. So reach out to start a podcast Ph and we might interview you Office spaces.

Speaker C: Keep posting lang if you have. If you're in the IT Philippines, um, keep posting lang and manga projects. I don't mind. Okay. Bias mindset.

Speaker B: Uh

Speaker C: especially project from our fellow Filipinos, uh, indie hackers, indie developers.

Speaker B: So to be fair, 4,000, ah, 2,000 posts a day. 4,000 posts a day. Uh, type one or type two errors. Um, so. Thank you very much. Very nice.

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