Kwentuhan #5: Happy Hive - Co-working Space, DOLE Compliance, Safer Workplaces

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Speaker C: I would like to address the people. Um.

Speaker B: Anyway, um um. Happy Hive and by the way but actually Happy Hive it's a co working space. My compliance services Chaka Mehrung vision for a uh, women led people centered safer workplaces.

Speaker C: So um. Hi, I'm Rina. I'm the CEO of Happy Hive. And Happy Hive is almost there. Uh, women led people centered compliance for safer and um, uh, safer or more inclusive workplaces. And I pass on to you.

Speaker D: Hi, I'm Jessica Roque. So I'm the coo. So uh, planner other than the child of owner. So execute ideas. Nirina Control CEO always. That's, that's the role of the CEO. And then here this is Iris, one of our co owners.

Speaker E: Hello, I'm Iris. So I mainly do operations, also assisting Cheska and also one of the departments um focused on consulting. So.

Speaker C: Um.

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Speaker B: Anyway, actually um, working space now Bahai Sha. Bahai to that three floors. So m working space. M informal. I mean the formal setting. Corporate setting here very homey. For example, Registration, Uh registered Dito under virtual office. Similar idea. Uh, Nagawin business, NATO business.

Speaker D: Involved.

Speaker B: Uh.

Speaker E: Um.

Speaker C: But basically he started the safer,

Speaker B: safer workplace.

Speaker C: Safer inclusive workplace. So we started Happy Hive with the goal of um, making ourselves. Because when we started Happy Hive we were mothers first and we felt that going into traditional uh, uh, traditional employment will not work for us. Because for me I'm. I was clear on what I wanted. I wanted to be a full time mother. But I also didn't want to let go of being an entrepreneur or being a worker. Um, traditionally I'm um. Usually in offering environment. An adding working environment. It's either to be A, uh, full time mother or to be a full time worker. So one or the other. And I refused to do that. You refused to do that. So when we started Happy Hive, my son was around one year old and Cheska was pregnant. She was pregnant. She was pregnant and was about to conceive. Deliver. Not conceive.

Speaker D: Deliver.

Speaker B: If I may ask. In a year.

Speaker C: 2017. Hi, Ocean. So two months before chess.

Speaker E: So

Speaker C: like we wanted, uh, like Chess. Um, I wanted to have this, uh, company, uh, that will include me, that will not make me feel obsolete or will not set aside what I have to offer only because I am a mother. So apparently Cheska felt the same thing. Uh, actually I wanted to do the things that you've been doing. I wanted to be a full on handsome mother and then a uh, full time worker as well. And she knew doing both is impossible. Almost impossible. Um, um, corporate or like an employee because you don't have a handle. Uh, um. Siguro non time. It appealed to her. But I would like to hear that part of the story, I guess as a podcast. Um, Gusto. Um, Mangaling.

Speaker D: Yeah. Okay. So in approaching our. And you're like, um, mentioned before that we were in a construction. No, we had our own. We had our own construction company.

Speaker F: Yeah.

Speaker D: So I was an owner there. Architect. Architect. Architect, by the way. So that was our, um, company before we were, uh, design and build.

Speaker E: Right.

Speaker D: And then stressful as in, ah, government projects. So feeling. And then exit. Um, I cannot anymore Architecto. Stress dealing with construction and all these people. And then we'll see. And then m. Let's do something. At that time, this was already my second child. So Serena, she already has a first. And then this is my second. And since mother Naho. I did. I already knew how difficult it is. So I ran that previous company with a son and um, a partner. Uh, 2017, 2016. And 2017. Uh, I didn't know what to do. And then I didn't know what I really wanted to do. But I knew that I wanted an environment that's um, flexible for mothers. For women with kids, Graduation or.

Speaker C: Office

Speaker D: co working space is kid and pet friendly. So you can bring your kids and pets here and it's fine. Um, we're unapologetic. So we made it that way because of our experience as mothers. So number one criteria. And then how we set up our previous company. No, and then they were like permits requirements and they were like. And then they're like willing to pay, Um, m. My viability and whatever.

Speaker B: So.

Speaker D: So we started from There Architectural uh actual business one stop shopkeeping business registration virtual office. So we wanted to have a WhatsApp shop. So we drew from our trauma uh we drew from our trauma and experience of having. Having difficulty setting up our own previous company. And as you say you know people would. Would want to know from people who experienced it.

Speaker C: They just have to get it done.

Speaker D: Yeah yeah. No from the point of view of a business owner. Not point of view of uh accountant or lawyer who who hasn't you know experience me having his own company. So initially uh I listen.

Speaker E: No I know for many reasons then. Well I think when I joined um the team I know I was in my late twenties so Ah yeah late. So I don't know the idea of creating something from scratch was very um appealing to me and then vision then I believe the vision of work life balance. So live work play together. That's our tagline then so yes. And then also the idea of helping out um fellow creatives. So pain point um is some company for example or in a practice whereas create my design for example but you can't focus that like 100 because yeah because you have to do other things also like compliance as your taxes. So yeah I yeah. Uh uh m. Uh you introduced the idea. Randomly I think.

Speaker B: Um. About uh safer workplaces business model what you want to do as an impact. I mean somehow uh not safer workplace but your inclusive workplace.

Speaker C: It's very near and new.

Speaker B: So. First consultancy or helping other uh companies comply. Uh safe and inclusive workplace. But I think in your largest basic is co working space and I realize co working space or uh uh possible and workplace uh inclusive or parang Hindi very strict Ganyan. So it's actually and then practically your business compliance. You have expertise or experience register start up and actually working space and then um business registration uh business compliance, tax compliance payroll etc and then as you said business consultancy. Uh so I think. Uh nah major quote unquote revolutionary or parang. I mean imagine clients for your co working space with virtual office three floors.

Speaker C: Can you share pepper face um later on. Uh. No but we um. We were intentional about what we wanted to choose.

Speaker B: Yeah yeah

Speaker C: space Um I remember Cheska had very uh specific requirement um for what our office should look like.

Speaker E: So

Speaker C: later on I was uh pass on to Cheska new requirement was to um just bring my kid along a place where my kid will be able to move around and not feel unsafe in the sense uh m. Flywood um M. It's a really kid and um pet friendly. Pet friendly Casse um Earlier on I had a pet and then um. Like she died. Ah Pero I still have um other like um dog families families nephews, nephews and niece. Nephew and niece Hi Ayn and Chowder Nadina de la Horenza Working space so um pet and kid friendly space. So out of the question Corporate spaces where pets and kids are not loud building. So union requirement but aside from that M. Um space requirements uh architects so uh. Licensed architects.

Speaker D: Sorry I'm a family architect now only for my family see I reciennibenta

Speaker B: uh

Speaker D: Pero actually M. This is actually our third location. So first location is Saviorville and then your second Samayaman um street M M.

Speaker F: But.

Speaker D: So we wanted that um we from a uh small space to a bigger space because we saw the potential in having uh space.

Speaker B: By the way meeting rooms office rooms

Speaker D: three for rent and then private meeting rooms.

Speaker B: Pantry um tables three or four three meetings three rooms uh M M they can rent for a certain per hour per hour uh admin office.

Speaker D: So that's usually our own meeting room if. Biggest meeting um for uh we have a contract with is recently his good golf ph shout out yeah maybe my invite me Johnny next time see good gov Ph but yeah they're they're very new. We're very excited to have them here as um uh to share the office with us um but the other two are open so that's per hour or third floor. Um so your criteria is really to have a bigger space um for that. Exactly. To have more meeting rooms. To have a bigger um common area. No for hot seat because it's very limited. At least parks the street and then you can come in and then um so we wanted a bigger space because bigger opportunities people can rent the place.

Speaker B: Uh I mean actually first of all that's a big win somehow. Um usually what interview startups they get corporate style. Ah um they get this office. Not to say I know weird yeah but the fact that they actually um sign a contract for one year that's very good too. Do you see that as a challenge or a limitation somehow or Hindi it's really your identity for us it's.

Speaker D: It's um. That's our target market. The weird ones. We're the crazy ones. We don't want to be corporate. We're at anti corporate action corporate that's

Speaker C: like I don't want to be anti corporate. No. I want to be at least.

Speaker D: Inclusive safe space

Speaker B: if I may I think uncommon very hierarchical.

Speaker D: Yeah and the uh very stringent strict processes. No so. I mean you know, we're very um. Description.

Speaker C: I don't know. Crazy is the only thing quirky.

Speaker D: Um, I guess we're not corporate people.

Speaker C: Progressive

Speaker B: inclusive and I think it belongs to the progressive.

Speaker D: Yeah. So we attract the same kind of clients and people. No, not people who want change. People who want uh. Who don't want to stay. Um just following the same rules and the same you know, um, um. Like good golf. They want change. They want to change the government, they want to change the policies.

Speaker E: So

Speaker D: you're interested in that other than uh. Number one they were like oh, interested. Most of them are from there and then. Um, number one location. Number two is the uh, linking of minds.

Speaker B: Uh, to be fair, would you say I quote encode crazy or at least alliance. Uh,

Speaker D: You could say you have to be a little bit crazy to start a company. I mean if you're starting something. No, you're not part of the. You're not part of um. The people who just follow you want to do something different. So we have to be a little bit crazy to start something new or to start nothing new for you to be fair.

Speaker B: Even if uh, clients. Um. M Office on my bobo. But anyway, I mean. I mean for sure the man has a website. So for sure branding.

Speaker E: For sure.

Speaker F: Posts.

Speaker B: About the small working space or anything to add. Uh, Working space. Uh, design and maybe as a business anything

Speaker E: uh, developer like and a co Working space is that it's essential to. We think it's essential to build a community venue where people will get together, share ideas, you know and. Yeah,

Speaker B: I think I get the point. Strict and stringent and corporate. Uh, so Happy Hive can be the hive for them all in Colony.

Speaker E: Uh.

Speaker B: Um, tax compliance, payroll, um business registration, even virtual office. So uh, um.

Speaker D: M

Speaker C: businesses. But to do that.

Speaker B: Yeah uh, that's number one compliance and some government.

Speaker C: Yeah. Otherwise

Speaker B: I mean, I mean, I mean I know um, they can cowork here pero Compliance. Compliance services. Why do they choose? Why do they also avail that Actually if I may add lang they can do it themselves. Actually they can do it themselves.

Speaker D: We actually encourage them to do it themselves.

Speaker C: So compliance um. Actually right now is a bread and butter of helping. It's the most um union department that's earning. Earning a lot for Happy Hive. Um Union bread and butter and a more non co working space. So even if the co workers are not um, um into getting us as their compliance um provider, we have our advocacies as well. Do it yourselves. We do seminars so that people will be able to do it themselves. My extra penalty. So kumbaga. Ah. Um, that's more than what you owe the government. So now um, we're empowering Filipino entrepreneurs to do it themselves or to find the credible. Not even as you have your freedom. Um, to find credible um compliance providers to do it for you. It's much. Comply sometimes, Um, For the clients. And we have to repeatedly tell them is a client's responsibility and they're actually willing to pay for that. But they know it goes to like uh, uh, bottomless copper Government just sorry Government shout out.

Speaker E: Uh to government shout out.

Speaker C: Bir just waits for you to make an. To make a mistake. Kaidi shout out Kosher just wait for you to make a mistake and then for you to pay the fees or fine for that mistake. Um, which is very sad because it's not as if entrepreneurs have um, like aluminum endless money when you start a business. Penalty. So that's why your tax compliance, permits and payroll, even virtual office that kind of like wants to solve that um, kind of problem. Uh, we'll do it for you. Um, we'll do it for you right. Um. If we're not not able to do it right your course correct, we'll make amends. But I said that's the essence of how we work. And it's um, embedded in our contracts as well. Um, but basically we want for business owners to do it right the first time. Cassette the next time My penalty. To do it right the next time means you didn't do it right the first time. My penalty.

Speaker B: Um, actually to be fair, Uh, um, I also lecture parents. Uh, maybe the holding. Anyway, Uh, uh, business somehow and um, Madame Dominica companies. Anything to add?

Speaker E: Uh,

Speaker D: yeah, it's our biggest department. Um, and it's important to note that half of it, the finances work from home. Uh, so we allow them to know uh, flexible schedule. Uh, uh, m. And then the other half is to fix our file.

Speaker C: So

Speaker D: very um, uh, um, Requirement. Government uh, office. Right. Um, I would like to say some of our biggest um contracts is fixing um, businesses. What do you mean? Uh, because they have open cases. Because they are businesses for years and they don't know how to fix it. And then oh, uh, For how many months? How do we fix that? So majority of uh. Well, M is really just can you help us fix

Speaker B: m

Speaker D: Their mistakes, not ours. And they're like okay. Because business is not doing well. And I can tell you right now it is 10 times harder to close a business than to open.

Speaker C: Um, Yeah.

Speaker D: Zero filing. Because if you let it go without and Then business uh uh my penalty

Speaker C: for not doing anything uh right.

Speaker D: So if you want to not do anything you have to still file 0 right.

Speaker E: So

Speaker B: uh. Connected uh next. Workplace or something is also compliance. I'll be straightforward. I'll be very straightforward here Dahil ang Filipinas especially in Gobera Filipinas and daming compliance requirements ah business case for many startups and many businesses um accounting. Downside. Compliance.

Speaker D: I would be very happy like that is our goal.

Speaker B: I mean ideally ideally I mean on the business sense.

Speaker C: So actually we're just commodifying on m. Our governments.

Speaker B: I've been thinking about

Speaker E: government

Speaker C: contributions.

Speaker D: Um in other countries

Speaker B: um. Of doing business.

Speaker C: Ideally. But right now we uh. We make do we just solve whatever we have what's in our problem and unfortunately closest to us it's also personal for us what's personal is also political. I.

Speaker D: Um.

Speaker C: When we started happy I We didn't come here thinking um career opportunities for us no we didn't think about that like this is what we wanted. We wanted to be for my mothers we wanted an environment to be women. So um. When we did this it was in the hope always always it's always in the hope of a better governance and compliance um uh requirements unfortunately Malayo Pattayodon so we're part of um for that if uh okay so brang um ideal so Brang goat where we go Philippines in terms of compliance in governance um then that would be ideal for us even if it means we lose business we gain more as women

Speaker B: um and I might say this is a very uh as a company uh inclusive workplace. Let me say then this straightforward. Some startup founders, some business owners they just find a business opportunity um tax compliance whatever Compliance let's go there. But I mean yes inclusive workplace and then. And then is um okay apparently along the way you need to sort this is in case you need to solve Yoong um compliance ah workplace and also it's a business registration tax compliance business owners of the business compliance. So union first step of the larger problem of doing business problem is solved.

Speaker C: That's where our company um that's where consultancy comes.

Speaker D: Sorry. Uh it's what we wanted really. It doesn't matter what business we apply our values to or our culture that we want to we can shift as long as our culture and values are there. So if we need to like

Speaker E: huh

Speaker D: business ah and we run out of business in the

Speaker C: area.

Speaker D: So um. As long as um we will find business anyway.

Speaker B: Yeah true.

Speaker D: But as long as we want an inclusive workspace it's fine. It's fine with us. We will be happy. We will be so happy. We will be happier. Happier Hive.

Speaker C: Don't get me wrong, Johnny. When we started Happy Hive, we wanted to earn money. Money is always on the table. We started Happy Hive not as a non profit.

Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. To be fair, I mean um, business is business.

Speaker C: Business is business.

Speaker E: Yeah.

Speaker C: So business is business, but it doesn't take away feeling. M bring in Yung Mang advocacies.

Speaker B: Personal beings maximizing profit.

Speaker C: Yes, yeah, yeah. And we can also turn away profit in the name of our advocacy.

Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker C: So there have been several times when we have had to say no to money.

Speaker E: Yes.

Speaker C: But sadly, yes. That's so sad. But not so sad because it meant that we have had to hold on. Which are ah, parama principles in life or advocacies? Um. M. So yeah, um, basically,

Speaker E: um,

Speaker C: fortunately or unfortunately, I guess I'm not sure if you see it as a good thing or a bad thing. It paved the way for our consultancy because when we started apihe. When we started Happy Hive, um, we just drew upon our experiences from our building construction company from before. Almost three years. Three years around three years. Uh,

Speaker B: so.

Speaker C: Wait, wait, wait, wait. I want to facilitate this. So my building construction company, M before original, later on in, invite at the start assistant invite Nilanga later on as a partner. And then I restarted as an intern, um, architect, um, designer. And then um,

Speaker E: I've been with them for a very long time student. So yeah, um,

Speaker B: Uh,

Speaker E: College. So that's how we were acquainted. Since we're in the same college, same org, uh,

Speaker B: Shout out.

Speaker E: Later on some project together.

Speaker B: So.

Speaker E: Yeah, Uh,

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Speaker B: Uh, empowering business safer workplaces and then. Having a co working space compliance but your next level, uh, compliance. So business consultancy and Safer workplace embodied that through co working space. Pero next phase ah, record is uh, you also help um companies have policies or help them have safer and more inclusive workplaces. Ah, business consultancy. Um, to grow.

Speaker C: Yes. Actually um, before you grow, you need to sustain me. Uh, uh you start um Kaya. We started with registration and then with compliance. You start may study as we always study. I promise. Ah there. There has been a study uh for the first three years of a uh business. Um one of the factors is because of compliance compliance needs or Hindi nila napa plan Kumo Yung requirements for compliance therefore by the time sustainability. So um, we're trying to help businesses out in terms of compliance from the start to sustaining it. Um and for the past eight almost nine years we have been doing that and um. How happy are you buying 20172017

Speaker E: basta

Speaker C: alam ko almost nine years. Almost nine years. August, august 1st, 2020 so almost 9 years um young start compliance. Starting last year uh we realized we can help businesses from sustainable um from sustaining to thriving or growing. So sustain Momuna so Ibi Sabin Yumanga bare minimum.

Speaker E: Uh

Speaker C: M M Otherwise the next level hierarchy of needs.

Speaker B: Uh hierarchy of business needs.

Speaker C: Anyway Paramaso's hierarchy of needs. Business life cycle cash flow revenue and part of that compliance second level, first and second level. The third level. Uh, you major self actualization part. Uh don't quote me it's not.

Speaker D: Uh

Speaker C: but somewhere there the higher goes a pyramid um needs. So um sauna uh is to sustain Mosha so are building safer workplaces. Um tries to um. Promote that kind of workplace environment. What does that mean? It means that enjoy here in happy hive and um actually. Align soul for the people who want to be aligned for the way how we want to go about things in the more inclusive and safer workplaces. Then we advocate for that um right now maraming business owners um ah require compliance for all businesses. Yeah, we chat.

Speaker E: Even if.

Speaker B: Even if sold probe column.

Speaker C: Yes even if. We checked. We checked.

Speaker E: Um.

Speaker C: Inspector. Inspector. Uh yes, yes, yes yes yes yes. So my bir. Uh, well sss.

Speaker B: Um.

Speaker C: No. Letter uh said you answer by moab. Uh yeah,

Speaker B: Even if.

Speaker C: Um.

Speaker F: Well

Speaker D: inspection stores.

Speaker B: Uh

Speaker D: so a very interesting origin story.

Speaker B: Uh yes.

Speaker D: Random inspection. What and then.

Speaker B: Ah.

Speaker D: Um. I see iris. I will let iris. Yeah. And then we realized uh.

Speaker E: Proper documentation. So you have to prepare the printouts. Everything on record should be properly um arranged because they have to check especially very specific um. Payroll. Yes. Required especially for. Especially for a corporation. For us it depends. I know enterprise so I know happy Hype is under small enterprise. So yeah. Um so you have to be very specific and organized because they really check on those program. So that's uh. Um. Safety and health um practices office. So yeah. And even in sanitation.

Speaker B: Fire extinguisher.

Speaker E: So yeah Fire safety compliance. Um even for this kind of setup hazards and like manufacturing or let's say construction sites. Um even in the offices. Uh, for example I know program policies and then for example health protocols in the workplace.

Speaker C: Anyway m.

Speaker E: Uh. Um. Prepared see for um. Example. Measures. Yes yes. Or

Speaker B: that's important.

Speaker E: For example Young Sing playing I know Medicine box or medicine kit. Um

Speaker B: huh. Factory.

Speaker G: Uh.

Speaker B: I believe pero um.

Speaker C: Uh. Uh. I like specifically asked like did we violate anything? Um they said they are randomly and actively inspecting.

Speaker B: To be fair. That's good for me to be fair. That's good. Uh

Speaker C: yes. And actually negative connotation apparently inspectors because it seems like as if they're the

Speaker E: bad guys

Speaker C: seemingly businesses. Inspectors jros J Rose okay so um. I remember when he went to us he was very passionate about how pais lips was presented and was computed and deep inside. Deep inside um. We knew now we were treating our people right. Pero he was. They wanted to. They wanted that kind of um explanation or conversation. Now initially they did. They did. They weren't getting Pero Uh.

Speaker D: He wanted to check if we comply.

Speaker B: Uh.

Speaker C: And then we were trying to explain explained to him he was very passionate about it. And then at the end after explain.

Speaker G: M.

Speaker C: I just really wanted to. To make sure that you are treating your people right.

Speaker B: Oh yes.

Speaker C: Which is. I actually like agreed with actually okay. Gustudiname like fighting for our people then as well.

Speaker E: Uh. Um.

Speaker C: So basically the dollar just wants for our people the people who work with us to be treated right. To be treated with dignity and with um the young just compensation so non approved uh with all the documentations according to the law.

Speaker D: And then.

Speaker E: Um.

Speaker C: I think it doesn't work that way. They have like a list of QC establishments. Um in the end actually I think that was two years ago pivotal moment for us uh like for us compliance company um. Inspector. Um I want to also give that for other companies uh compliant if you're not treating your people right.

Speaker B: Um.

Speaker C: Wake up. So you building safer workplaces program um provides for that even before audit or inspection.

Speaker D: No. Um so one of our lacking part of our documents is yumbawal bastos whatever your poster policy, whatever. No so owners so for him um which is interesting.

Speaker F: So

Speaker D: how is this safe spaces union time now what we have this is required. Huh. Whether you're sole prop or employee. So you don't come in a deep

Speaker C: dive Yung Deep dive. Actually nothing we're living in this. We're living in this kind of um environment. Actually this law was made for us. Yumbawal bastos is basically a uh, requirement for a dolly compliance. NASA um Listahansha dolly compliance. Aside from our pay sleep 13 month pay ah overtime sleep. Um what does it mean? It means you need to have a policy in place for when or if sexual harassment um happens in your work place. And sexual harassment doesn't only happen to women or minorities. It also happens to men as well. So uh,

Speaker A: it's not.

Speaker C: Yeah. Union stigma society which we're trying to. Which we're trying to overturn. Yeah. Um, right now is for compliance Dolly compliance to be a culture of um. Compliance to be a culture of safe space and inclusivity

Speaker B: as a business then startups I have to say. Startup. Um um. So market wise also uh, virtual wise. Uh I'm sure.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker D: Actually

Speaker C: consultancy building safer workplace as part of that is a consultancy program. Um consultancy is how you can maximize your process so that yung compliance more works for you. Instead if you work for your compliance um for example payroll uh m. Maybe compute before was maximized. It's still right. It's just that not maximized uh um. Tax incentives allowable deductions Consider so parts payroll computation Consider non tax preparer or payroll um non payroll team payroll officer. Um it doesn't make them necessary. It doesn't necessarily make them wrong. It's just that it's not maximized or optimized. Like usap we are not out to do tax avoidance or tax evasion. We're out here to do tax optimization. It's just that we'll do everything um along the lines of the law to make sure that your business will be compliant and um. Um optimized taxes. So in terms of payroll which is a very good example Yung payroll uh asides allowances tax um deducted my tax shelter ah taxable income more pero um Kong straightforward taxable at the end which doesn't make it wrong but it's not optimized at the same time. So Kunganon um, that's what we're trying to offer business owners. Ah uh means and you have to look around um for the business owners and for the government as well as if we're not out here to make you not pay taxes. Compliance. We're in the business of compliance. We know that compliance protects the people. Actually compliance protects not only the people who are working with you but also you as a. As an employer in taxes and also in like sadole as an employer for the employees. But um. Some business owners um fail to recognize employers actually if you um. If you Comply. It will work for you.

Speaker B: Um, possibilities. Well, I think not many first Kayo Ata or I know and I don't know actually Filipinas to really headline this as part of your services. Tax compliance. Peace of mind. Peace of mind Business owners same Dito. You must start the founders payroll Young labor um. They will avail of your service. They get peace of mind as they grow as well because as they grow more employees. Uh uh. So part then Sha business consultancy.

Speaker E: Um.

Speaker B: You are helping thrive. You're helping this business drive. Yes.

Speaker F: Yes.

Speaker D: I never asked. No, because even it's all about the people right? Young especially service oriented coming. So we have to think of the people that uh. Who help service our clients. So if you're a service oriented company, you have to take care of the people who's you know uh, you're commodifying. Who are you helping you run the business.

Speaker B: Who are you working with?

Speaker D: Yeah, who are you working with? M.

Speaker E: Uh,

Speaker D: they're working for you or lurking with you to run your business. So they have these rights. Um uh. M workers. So that's the minimum deba.

Speaker C: Um

Speaker D: mine M honestly is not to have minimum wage but livable wage.

Speaker E: Right,

Speaker D: Your minimum wage.

Speaker E: Uh.

Speaker D: That's our dream for hopefully we can start with our own but standard. Dreams for that. But in the meantime business owners uh expenses.

Speaker C: Uh.

Speaker B: We just choose to not look

Speaker D: about it.

Speaker B: Every month. Every month.

Speaker D: Uh, or every quarter. So.

Speaker C: Stairwell Stairwell.

Speaker F: Ah.

Speaker D: Explain more.

Speaker E: I know it plays an important role especially if we wanted to break the cycle in the end what you give out. So if we're taking care of the people um we're working with champra. They would also be doing something good. Better output

Speaker B: generational verbal abuse.

Speaker E: We have the policies in place so I think they're made uh um. Management or young uh I mean processes. So I think young implementation start if we understand how it works then.

Speaker C: I'll make a seminar out

Speaker B: actually I'll be honest startups very flowery, very visionary implementation. Flowery version is safer workplace. Another vague. Another

Speaker E: startup. Uh. Uh.

Speaker B: Um. Making sure uh compliance on that side Peace of mind side business owner. Try your workers, your employees. They will feel safe. If a company. If a startup is let's say for example startup podcast. I am Happy Hive certified.

Speaker C: That's in the pipeline. New certification safe workplace certificate like uh. Generate.

Speaker B: Sustainable my environment. So so Somehow indeed or LinkedIn or Job street wherever. Oh Happy High certified.

Speaker C: That's a goal. Uh, that's the goal aside from being dolly compliant. Actually if you look around the Internet or look around service provider facilitate compliance.

Speaker B: Out of the 400 starters I interviewed

Speaker E: first,

Speaker C: uh, uh, compliance M as an individual. Compliant. Inspector.

Speaker B: Huh.

Speaker C: Which is the worst kind. Goodbye, soul. So, um, the time inspector or natul. That's already too late, actually.

Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Prevention is better than cure.

Speaker E: Wow.

Speaker B: Pension is better than penalty. No, penalty is better than penalty.

Speaker C: All the hassle, uh, in dealing with that penalty. For example, uh, business owner. Uh, do you know what to do when. I'm not sure how many people you have Peru. You said you have an intern. But let's say for example in the future when you have like at least two employees and then one person said, uh, do you know what to do? No, that is the point of our existence. To make you comply. The reason for being to make you dole compliant. Ah. And to make sure that when that happens, you already have a policy for it. Uh, when that happens and when someone complains to you, that's already too late. When you don't. When you don't know what to do at all, That's the first such a GPT. How confident are you? Um, so, um, that's what we're trying to solve. Compliance paperwork. It's how you perceive your own company and how you perceive your relationships more with people, with your colleagues, with your um, personnel and how you want to protect them and those things. Unfortunately, right now I don't think it's a.

Speaker D: It can be solved by just chatgpt or Claude. No, it's a, ah, human, very human thing that. How to deal with harassment, how to deal with catcalling. How to deal with. I know the looks or lewd remarks

Speaker B: or physical even if remote palano. I mean remote work.

Speaker F: Yeah.

Speaker C: So some spaces, uh, um, um, which is RA 11313. Um, so union bawalb which is a uh, uh, requirement. So usually uh, requirement compliance. Union magundadon. What that means is that even in offices and yumbawal bastos law, um, in street, uh, public spaces, in digital and offline spaces. So. And apparently, Apparently kelang and then um, poster officer.

Speaker D: Yes.

Speaker E: So

Speaker C: uh, Kelangan, uh, RA 11313 which is. So same space as at educational institutions offices, public space. So and like unlike before uh, authority, sexual harassment subordinate. Ah, right now lahat parang. Um, even if subordinate or just a colleague, it will hold in court. Then, um. 11313. Aside from our law, um, committee in places M. So it's called Cody or committee on decorum and investigation. That's the committee that should handle uh, sexual harassment cases or safe Spaces cases. Ah, hr. Will a uh, woman who has been sexually assaulted be uncomfortable? Um, Going to you knowing. So, um, parameters in place for Safe Spaces act uh, on how to go about things. And then as an employer it is our responsibility to make sure these um, these parameters are set so that our employees are. Are so that our employees are made to feel safe and unsecure. Dunsa workplace natan. So honestly, Safe Spaces is ah, a very ah, young after pandemic M to 2020 plus.

Speaker B: Um,

Speaker C: like I made a presentation about it. I think it was past 2019. I know 2020 implementation

Speaker B: compliance.

Speaker D: So Rina is super, super active in doing all of these um, seminars. Online seminars.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker D: She recently parted with Zalamea.

Speaker E: Yeah.

Speaker D: Hi RB So um, and then. Facebook Live then, so. And then now we're we're getting uh, inquiries about getting her to, to educate their company about the safe space because it's,

Speaker B: I mean opportunities. Seminars, training.

Speaker D: Yes, that's what we're starting now. So we're doing seminars and trainings get us

Speaker E: um.

Speaker C: It seems like new. It's not as if harassment is new. It's just that our government fortunately is more active in supporting Yumanga, um, minorities and Yumanga women workers. Fortunately then for the Philippines we have a considerably higher um, gender uh, equality ratio.

Speaker B: Um,

Speaker C: uh, relatively. Relatively. But. But we still have a lot to go.

Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, of course.

Speaker C: Um, Malayo parinyung pedinatin maratheng. It's just that um, for the privileged which are honestly kame. We consider ourselves. I won't say no, I can speak for them. We consider ourselves. When you walk into up, you have to consider yourself as privileged educationally. Privileged educationally. And that means um, socially as well. Um, that means we know better. That means we have more voice. That means that voice we have to use for something better.

Speaker B: And Spider man. With great power or with great learning or with great knowledge comes great responsibility or actually voice.

Speaker C: Um. Serve the people. Serve the people.

Speaker B: Honor excellence. Service. Honor excellence.

Speaker D: Service alumni.

Speaker C: Service to the people. We were brought up thinking that we have to serve the people and what, whatever privileges that we enjoyed, we have to pay it forward. And that's what we're trying to do now in our own little ways. Um, it might not seem a lot right now. Pero Yung sad. It's very personal for us. Us. We are mothers first. We are women first before we are business owners. So um, Kahit Indi Namin going happy high. These are the things we try to fight for. You will see us out there doing these Things or fighting for these things.

Speaker D: In fact we have partnerships. Um, so very active. See arena, she's a founder of Bailaya as well. So that's a uh, women, um, feminist organization. No, um, active. Don Pero.

Speaker F: Hello.

Speaker C: Hi.

Speaker D: Twice shout out. Yeah, so it really like, you know, Salahatnang. We really try to embody um, our rights as women. And also a lot of people's like oh, feminist. But just treat us the same. Just treat us the same. Uh, as equals. As men. You know, we can do whatever you guys can do. We can work.

Speaker E: No.

Speaker D: So yeah, what we're fighting for

Speaker B: actually, um, business. Of course, uh, this is business. But at the same time, um, My meaning and my change. Why not? M.

Speaker E: I know, I know. Uh, of course as women, uh, we wanted the same or same opportunities as I know what is available for um. For everyone.

Speaker F: Ah.

Speaker E: Um. And Kong may disparity in terms of um. In terms of economic. Let's say um. So how do we do that? I know in theory how do we do it? Practically measures uh. So yeah. And that's what we wanted to explore.

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Speaker B: Actually I know M. Um.

Speaker C: Um.

Speaker B: I think 1.5 restaurant shout out um Noel Marshall I think good eve Kakaki Singh Alan Antang hello Francis Funa let's go boss. Iris Selena Cruz Lopez Love you Titarina uh Ayn and Chowder.

Speaker C: Kevin Rosnera Idol our facilitator from positive Workplace Uh um.

Speaker B: Um. Final thoughts you want to impart before we end this inuman. Um.

Speaker C: M.

Speaker E: Um um. Big ideas but we should also focus M. So um. Similar with work life balance so for women for um mothers like Jessica uh Rina and one of and our other partners. So yeah um um. And it's a big concept so and know let's make sure.

Speaker D: So for me it's to build on what she said um it's to make it normal. So we don't want it to be special, we want it to be regular.

Speaker F: Regular.

Speaker B: Amazing.

Speaker D: Um, we don't want it to be amazing. We want it to be as normal as possible.

Speaker C: That's the goal. So.

Speaker D: And at the same time you um, bridge between what the government is doing and what we're doing in our own companies. And that matters. That matters to the owners, that matters to the employees, that matters to our impact. So other champra priority income. What's the income for if you're destroying your employees, if you're not taking care of them, if you're destroying your values?

Speaker E: Right.

Speaker D: That's for me. Let's make it normal.

Speaker B: Let's make it normal. Uh,

Speaker E: uh,

Speaker C: I'll just borrow from the last webinar I said the parking work pero this one it hits near and dear uh, Office that really made us um, um, embody this kind of um, principle is that culture is what happens when no one is watching. So in our building safer workplaces, what we uh, advocate for is from the compliance to culture. And that culture is whatever you do when you have that conversation inside the room, when your personnel, when your staff are not looking in a boardroom, when you have. Have to disagree or agree with a certain policy, that's for them. And that's very close to me because. We are business owners.

Speaker E: Yes.

Speaker C: Um, and sometimes it's very tempting m to look at the numbers and say profitable. And when someone tells you

Speaker B: m,

Speaker C: um. And then you have to step back and realize. So when I say that culture is what happens when no one is watching, it's not just like what. It's not just a theory or not just a quotable quote. It's what you have to contend with every day. Even if it seems very hard, even if it's like supposedly money in your pocket already and then you kelangan

Speaker E: because

Speaker C: um, that's for your people and that's what you intended to do at first or along the way. So um, when you do business, I hope business owners out there Hindi lang for profit when you do that, it takes the soul out of it. Don't you think around that you can make money out of a lot of things, but um, I buy adrenaline rush when you um, when you affect a lot of people,

Speaker E: uh,

Speaker C: ah, when you make people's lives better. So Yun um sana makita Namanga startup ah there is roi in investing in their people, in making compliance work for them instead of working for your compliance.

Speaker B: And if the people feel safe and then protected.

Speaker C: Actually my study.

Speaker E: Um,

Speaker C: I have links for that.

Speaker B: Uh um um.

Speaker F: Yeah.

Speaker C: Uh.

Speaker B: Um thank you very much. Iris Chess Karina um uh interested in Happy hype.

Speaker C: Um so if you want to drop by our co working space it's um located at 105AMatimtiman Street, Sekatuna Village, Quezon City. Um we're near Bayantel along um Bayantel is along Malingap. But if you want to reach us um, in the Internet you can visit our website happyhive inc.com or you can email me Reena R E E N a@happyhive.com.

Speaker B: Thank you.

Speaker E: Uh.

Speaker B: Thank you, thank you, thank you and thank you. Thank you.

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