The Intersection of Science, Miracles, and Energy Healing - Jeffrey Allen & Dr. Larry Farwell are RightOffTrack

Speaker A: So the good news is that, huh, unified field, that vibrates into the quantum phenomena that make up the universe. Einstein trying to turn unified field, by the way, as what's vibrating. That is our essential nature, the essential nature of who we are, the essence of who we are, the essential constituent of you and me is the same as the central constituent of the universe. So we can tune into that, allow our awareness to go within, settle down to a state of quietness, experience who we are within ourselves, and then create that resonance. And that shows up in our life. That's from the quantum physics area level.

Speaker B: Yeah. Uh, it's really fascinating. What it made me think of is that when I look at how people are creating their reality, people probably underestimate how much, uh, what's happening up here, their beliefs about what they can create, what's possible, how much that's, uh, shaping what's manifesting for them, or even shaping what they notice what's manifesting for them. Because, uh, like you mentioned, everybody, we're just, um, uh, energy moving. And what I've found is that, uh, if we can bring ourselves more into coherence, meaning that we don't have lots of different energies going many directions, rather start kind of feeling like, oh, we have more things kind of lining up with the universe or kind of maybe what's true rather than what we think is true is here, and what's actually possible is here. When we're able to come into resonance there and just sort of listen, all of a sudden there's opportunities that are better than we can imagine happening all the time around us, and, um, we don't have to try to create them.

Speaker A: Yes, it was. It's exactly spot on, Jeffrey. It is coming into coherence. And in fact, in terms of brainwaves, we actually have mathematically defined coherence, and it has to do with. It applies fundamental principles of neuroscience, of how your brain learns and evolves in and develop for it.

Speaker C: Well, welcome back to another exciting episode of Right Off Track, the podcast where we dive into the deep mindset of purposeful entrepreneurs who are creating their own unique path to success. Today we have a very special episode lined up for you. Not only do we have two incredible guests, but I also have the pleasure of co hosting the Amazing Amy Lau. Amy is the founder of the wow Factor, an expert in sales strategy and an Author and a TEDx speaker. Welcome, Amy.

Speaker D: Thank you, Anya. I'm thrilled to be here co hosting this episode with you. Let's dive right in and introduce our incredible guest today, Anya Would you like to start?

Speaker C: Absolutely. Our first guest is Jeffrey Allen. Jeffrey is a popular mindvalley author and speaker, a powerful energy healer, and a pioneer in online energy training. Through his online program with Mindvalley, he has introduced more than 1 million people worldwide the exciting world of personal energy healing to improve their relationships, deepen their spiritual connection and increase their personal presence, happiness and the impact in the world. Jeffrey's mission is to make energy, work and higher awareness available to everyone, helping us to unburden ourselves from needless conflict and pain and embrace happy, fulfilled lives of true passion, purpose and meaning. Welcome, Jeffrey.

Speaker B: Thanks, Anya. That's great. It's so fun to listen to that bio. I'm like, oh, is, is that me? Yeah, I guess so. You know, to me I'm just a person living my life and trying to, you know, know, share and help people. But it's kind of fun to see that context too. Yeah. Thank you. Great to be here.

Speaker C: Grateful to have you here.

Speaker D: And our second guest is Dr. Larry Farwell. Dr. Larry is a Harvard trained neuroscientist and the author of the number one best selling book, the science of creating miracles, neuroscience, quantum physics, and living the life of your dreams. Now, Time magazine selected him as one of the time of 100 Top Innovators of the century, likening him to the Picassos and art of the 21st century. He's consulted for world leaders including the FBI, the CIA, the US Navy, and the President of the United States. He's been featured on CNN, ABC News, CBS News, BBC, Good Morning America, 60 Minutes, Time magazine, the New York Times, the Washington Post, and major news media worldwide. Welcome, Dr. Larry.

Speaker A: Uh, well, thank you. Here with you, Anya. I'm with Jeffrey on this. If all of that stuff, all of that, uh, stuff is not really. If you recognize all that stuff is not really what our life is about and we're human beings here to connect with each other and to connect with whoever's listening, then we're in the right group here.

Speaker C: I love it. We're making a little miracle happen here. So thank you both, I'm, well, all of you actually, for being here on this very special episode. And I'm really excited how we take this broad range of experience and passion and purpose and we'll find like some overlap and some shared, uh, learning. So let's dive in. I have a warm up question for Dr. Larry first. Can you share with us a defining moment in your career that shaped your journey into neuroscience and, and quantum physics?

Speaker A: Well, yes, and it depends on what aspect of My, my journey, if we're talking about the, the scientific research, the scientific publications and presentations and scientific meetings, it would be getting my, uh, Ph.D. graduating from Harvard, the academic thing, talking about the, the political aspects of it. It'd be probably meeting with the President of the United States and Director of the CIA and working out programs to use my technology overseas, counterterrorism and other things. However, for me personally as a human being, where this all started was I was 13 years old and I had a near death experience. I was drowning and I got down. Uh, by drowning, I don't mean I was wondering about my life with a fountain.

Speaker B: I got underwater and I couldn't breathe

Speaker A: that I was out of air, I was out of time. And I realized I had only a few seconds to live. So realizing it was over at age 13, I consciously, I let go of everything. All my desires, all my attachments, all my intentions, all my plans, everything. And at that moment, uh, several things happened at once that really transformed my life forever. One was my whole life flashed before my eyes. And I'd read about, oh, you're drowning your life flashing before your eyes. But it was, it was more than that. It was just as clear as this, just as detailed as this, but everything all at once. And at the same time, I experienced myself as this unbounded, infinite being beyond time and space. And I felt as though I saw my life for the first time the way it really was. It was what it was. There's nothing thin not going to change it was. It simply, it was what it was. And I realized if I could live my life this way, if I can have this level of consciousness ongoingly, my life would just flow exhibitly. Uh, and then I realized, well, wait a minute. Having seen myself experience who I really am, um, having seen my life for what it really is, I'm not ready to leave. I'm not leaving. I need miracles. And in here we go really, really quickly here because I've only got seconds left. So I got that miracle from that level of consciousness, from that level of abounded awareness, I was able to have an attention, a desire, an impulse. And that created that result. So, uh, then I got, so I got the surface. I did not drown. Spoiler alert. And I, uh, thank God. Uh, then that was when I became a seeker, really. I realized that enlightenment is what we're here for. What I'm about is, is to discover miracles, discover enlightenment and help other people to attain that. And then I grew up in a scientific household. My dad was a physicist. I'd always been interested in science. I wanted to connect that with science, the ancient wisdom, the eternal wisdom of consciousness with science. And to do that you really need to study the brain. So I got my degree in neuroscience. It's also very valuable to study quantum physics. That's the fundamental of creation. And my dad is a world renowned quantum physicist, George Barwell. So we worked together on that.

Speaker D: On that.

Speaker A: So that was really the beginning of my, my life in this realm.

Speaker C: Oh, amazing. Thank you so much, Claire.

Speaker D: Yeah. Well, Jeffrey, you also being a scientist as well, um, which, you know, I had. You and Dr. Larry have something really in common. What was the pivotal experience that led you to dedicate your life to energy healing and higher awareness?

Speaker B: Sure. Yeah. I'd say, um, maybe I'm more of a scientist at heart than professionally. I don't think I can compare straight up with you, Larry. But I can relate because when I was in college, I was studying computer science and uh, mathematics. That's the, that's the three degrees I was going for.

Speaker A: And.

Speaker B: But I started having these unusual experiences that I couldn't explain. Things that didn't really fit inside my belief system. And so for an example, I had an experience with my, my girlfriend at the time where I was, I was sleeping, I was just having this dream. And, um, my body kind of jerked a little bit like it does sometimes. And then the, uh, it's kind of like my dream. The curtains just sort of parted. And she was there and she said, are you okay? I was like, oh, yeah, I'm just sleeping. She said, okay. And then the curtains sort of closed again. And my dream resumed. And then I opened my eyes and I looked over at her and she was looking at me. And I said, why didn't you just talk to me? And she said, well, I just thought it'd be easier to go where you were. And I'm like, okay. I don't really understand what happened. Like, I don't even know that that's possible. And so, you know, early on, you know, just in college, I got this. Started having these experiences that didn't fit inside my beliefs. But that scientific part of me wanted to know more. I couldn't just discount my experiences because they didn't fit in my preconceived beliefs. So I kind of, you know, at that point I figured I've got sort of two paths to follow. I mean, in retrospect, I think it's at the time it just all happened, right? But in retrospect, I kind of had two paths. I could either double down on my beliefs and just discount my experiences and say, ah, that didn't happen. That was crazy. Uh, I'm just gonna keep going this way, or I can say, uh, what I did, which was where did these beliefs come from anyway? Uh, the way that I understand the world. And so I started kind of asking that question about all my beliefs. And I realized they didn't really come from anywhere that I could verify. They came from what, uh, my parents told me, what I learned in school and church and from my friends. And it was like, okay, I can't really claim that these are all credible. So I'm just going to sort of let go of this idea that I know how the world works and I'm going to dive in and just seek out anything, no matter how kind of strange it seems at the time and just start having experiences. Because those are things that especially repeatable experiences with me and other people that uh, uh, that's data, that's information. That's like the scientific part of me liked that. Like ah, uh, that's stuff I can deal with whether I understand it or not. Uh, I can trust that. And so that kind of took me down this dual road of like continuing to study all these interesting things about energy, healing and intuition and, and even I got into channeling for a while and kind of all these uh, these uh, sort of new age things at the time. Um, but I also had my career path. You know, 15 years as a software engineer and working for the Department of Energy, which is, you know, a different kind of energy and working, you know, working for Carpenter and um, sort of kind of living these two lives. I was a little bit afraid to tell people about the spiritual part because I thought I'd lose credibility, you know. And maybe at the time it was just probably true. Now, not so much now. I think people can get away with having both aspects themselves and it's kind of, um, People embrace that and enjoy that rather than feeling like they should hide one part. Yeah, so that was kind of the, kind of the start. And then, um, I'd say that the moment when I decided to go full time into energy healing was years later, in a really simple moment. Um, I was meditating and tuning in. I've been practicing kind of talking to my guidance. And I asked a simple question of why, uh, am I here? And the answer I heard really shocked me. What I heard was, you're here to be of service. And at the time it was like kind of all at once I felt this feeling of excitement and Also a little bit of embarrassment because to me, service was something that I received. It's like I go to the restaurant and I get service. I go to the gas station, I get service. And I was kind of embarrassed. I'm like, I can't believe I'm just, I'm so self centered. I didn't even know, you know, I just had no idea. And so it kind of really just blew my mind open. Like, I'm here to be of service.

Speaker A: Wow.

Speaker B: And then is that happening in my current job? Not really. I'm writing software, I'm making money, I can pay the house bills, everything looks good. But I don't think I'm serving anybody. I don't even think I'm serving the company. I'm probably just mostly warming up the chair, sitting in meetings, deleting emails. This probably isn't why I'm here. Right. And so that's, that kind of was the, the moment where it's like, uh, something else is coming. I don't know how it's going to transition, but I'm, I'm ready. And for me it was a little easier because I had, at that time, I had many years of experience in training and energy, healing and intuition and so on. It just was this weird hobby, you know. But that's the moment where I decided, hey, this weird hobby might be my thing.

Speaker D: Actually, you know, as you found your, your way, your center is actually by being of service to others. And you didn't even realize that. And, and then now you're just affecting so many people because of some things that you discovered. And this is really, you know, contributing to the life path and then what you're here to do. And I hear a lot of speakers, you know, talk about, um, their experiences of being like, you know, having stage fright when they get onto stage and so forth, until they realize that it's not about them, but it's more about somebody needs to listen to and hear that message. And that's what you're doing. And so, uh, thank you for doing that in the world.

Speaker B: You're totally right, Amy. When you're on, when you're on stage, if you're, if you're feeling nervous, then you're thinking about what other people are, how they're perceiving you. But if you're really just tuned into your audience and like, how can I help them? There's no nervousness happening there. There's just excitement, enthusiasm and connection.

Speaker D: Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker C: You know what? This also made me think about, I think about this dynamic where we're, you know, looking at AI, uh, we're looking at innovation and technology and a society. There's this kind of pull to think about. It's natural to innovate and look for the next app, next tool, next technological innovation. But I'm always thinking, what if we go back to seeing ourselves and our brains as being the super consciousness and tool, like, you know, like the, the higher capacity, and then, uh, what would be the potential if a society, society, we actually prioritize our inner potential versus just the technological aspects? I feel like this is a really cool place where actually it seems like more and more people, successful people working at Google, you know, Harvard graduates are talking about these things that would like people like, oh, that's a little out there. But now it's becoming very mainstream. And I love what it feels like. There's this intersection of consciousness just as a society that's rising around this. And with that in mind, like, Larry, Dr. Larry, you wrote a book about miracles. And here you are, quantum physics, you know, neuroscience. Can you talk about, like, what did you find that where the, where the science meets miracles. And how can we bring more of those miracles into our life? And anybody chime in on this?

Speaker A: All right, well, first of all, science and miracles, science of creating miracles. You have to come up with a scientific definition of, of a miracle. And it used to be thought a miracle was something impossible according to the laws of science. And somehow it happened. Well, I was sitting with my dad, quantum physicist, at lunch. We were in a restaurant and I said, hey, dad, anything is possible. He said, yes, son, any imaginable configuration of quantum particle wave phenomena is possible. Some are probable, some are highly improbable. Anything is possible. And that's the case in quantum mechanics. Anything is possible. And some things are just probable or improbable, and it functions according to the mathematical laws of probability. And being a fellow of the math guy, I'm sure, Jack, we will appreciate that now. I said, okay, so it's possible that the elementary particle that make up my body and yours, plus enough air to breathe, will tunnel from here to the other side of the moon, and we'll carry on this conversation there. And tunneling is a known phenomenon in quantum mechanics that can be demonstrated. He said, yeah, you're right. And in fact, he got out a paper napkin in a restaurant and he, he wrote a quick formula and he calculated the approximate probability that was going to happen. And it actually, it was low probability. It actually didn't happen. We stayed in the restaurant, but the Point is, and actually that's the first point to take home. Message I'd have is that those impossible dreams that you have that some people, uh, say are just not possible. Well, they are indeed possible. And then the question comes, can we create not impossible events because anything's possible, but can we create highly improbable events? And we showed in the scientific laboratory that we could create highly improbable quantum mechanical event. We've all had an experience like, gee, I'd literally like to hear from Amy and just then clone ranks and Sami, maybe we brought that about. But you can't say it's an experiment because a scientific experiment, because we don't know the probability. But we do know the probability of alpha particle emission by plutonium, which is one of the major ingredients of the atomic bomb. My dad was one of the guys who developed the atomic bomb in the Manhattan Project. So we took plutonium and we tested in the laboratory using standard quantum physics apparatus to see if we could shift the probability of distribution to an extremely improbable, to a miraculous level, off the charts in the statistics book. And we found that we could. So that. That's actually the second thing I'd say is that all of the wise people throughout the ages, including Jeffrey, and including many people in the last 10,000 years or more, who said, we create an impulse on the level of our consciousness that moves nature in that impulse. It's like you pluck a guitar string and resonates at a resonant frequency. Other instruments in the environment pick that up. We create an impulse and level of our consciousness that moves nature, or what we would call today the conscious unified field. And then that shows up in our life. All the wise people who said that's how we create our lives, they were in fact. Right. And we showed that in the scientific lab.

Speaker B: Wow. That's fantastic. Yeah, it's amazing. I, uh, really appreciate the work that you're doing of, uh, bringing it into, uh, tangible science, because I think that's probably one of the things that's going to help, uh, move more people, you know, invite more people into that reality. Um, like, some people are like me, where it's. I can just, um. You know, I'm okay if my reality doesn't jive with most people. Like, I'm happy with it. I'm, you know, I have that kind of a, uh, mindset. But most people feel a little more comfortable if there's some kind of a, um, you know, they can point to something and say, okay, there's. There's some backing here. And uh, so that's great. I think what you're doing is really, uh, going to help kind of shift this little movement into like. Or it is helping shift this little movement into a very big movement. Exciting.

Speaker C: I'm curious, obviously, we have your book and like, you people can maybe have to point to that for insight. How do you increase the likelihood of miraculous outcome? Like, is there something beside, outside the lab that common humans can just start doing as they're listening to this? Let's get miracles happening.

Speaker A: Yes, yes. Well, all right. In order to answer that, I have to peek out for. I'll make this brief about the quantum physics involved and about the neuroscience involved. With respect to the physics in front of me is this table. You can hear me knocking on it. Perhaps it looked brown and very solid. But if you look at it more scientifically, not more woo woo, but more scientifically, you see, it's not solid at all. Mostly empty space. Molecules moving around very quickly. You look within those, you see atoms. You look within those, you see elementary particles, protons, neutrons, electrons. Look within those, you see quarks. You go down to the string theory level. It's vibrating string. So the whole universe is just vibrating string. This, this table is not some solid object different from anything around it, different from the air around it or from my body. It's simply a pattern of vibration. So the good news is that

Speaker B: unified

Speaker A: field that vibrates into the quantum phenomena that make up the universe. Einstein trying the term unified field, by the way, as what's vibrating. That is our essential nature, the essential nature of who we are, the essence of who we are. The essential constituent of you and me is the same as the central constituent of the universe. So we can tune into that, allow our awareness to go within, settle down to a state of quietness, experience who we are within ourselves, and then create that resonance and that shows up in our life. That's from the quantum physics area level. And I'll, uh, talk about it in a minute from the level of neuroscience and how we apply the neuroscience. But I'd like to hear what, uh, others of you have to say what Jeffrey has to say in Troop Europe.

Speaker D: Yeah.

Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Uh, it's really fascinating. I'm listening to you talk and then I'm kind of receiving all this kind of, um, information, probably the same information that's coming into you. I'm just sort of seeing it and feeling it. And, um, yeah, it's great. What it made me think of is that when I look at how People are creating their reality. People, uh, probably underestimate how much, uh, what's happening up here, their beliefs about what they can create and what's possible, how much that's, uh, shaping what's manifesting for them. Or even shaping what they notice what's manifesting for them. Uh, because, uh, like you mentioned, everybody, we're just, um, uh, energy moving. And what I've found is that, uh, if we can bring ourselves more into coherence, meaning that we don't have lots of different energies going many directions, rather start kind of feeling like, oh, we have more things kind of lining up with the universe. Or kind of maybe what's true rather than what we think is true is here. And what's actually possible is here. When we're able to come into resonance there and just sort of listen. All of a sudden there's opportunities that are better than we can imagine happening all the time around us. And, um, we don't have to try to create them. It's like just. It's a way of sort of, uh, noticing, oh, there's a river flowing, and I've got a boat, and, like, it's actually flowing somewhere that's even better than I'm imagining. Like, I don't have to paddle like a maniac. Sometimes I can just sit back and enjoy the ride. And I'll get to somewhere even better than I imagined. But, uh, I'm curious. In your experiments, when you're talking about, um, shifting things into seemingly low probability things, suddenly making those happen, uh, sounds like that to me. It sounds like, uh, coming into coherence in some way.

Speaker A: Yes, it's exactly spot on, Jeffrey. It is coming into coherence. And in fact, in terms of the brainwaves, we actually have mathematically defined coherence. And it has to do with. It applies fundamental principles of neuroscience, of how your brain learns and evolves and develops. You're crawling around on the floor. You're two years old. You touch the floor, you touch the wall, you touch the table leg. Not much happens. There's not much to notice there. You touch the hot stove. Uh, well, now you have an aha experience. This aha experience brings your awareness into the present. I mean, I certainly had that when I was traveling. And it opens your brain up for reprogramming. So now. Oh, you touched on aha.

Speaker B: Huh?

Speaker A: There's something. There's something here that's worth learning. There's something here that's valuable. Something here that I need to create a shift in my internal state. And I Have to create a shift. There's something that I take advantage of here. So these aha, uh, experiences are how the brain learns and develops. And one of the major things I've worked on in the neuroscience realm is a, uh, brain, uh, response that I've discovered called a M. You will not be tested on this later. Memory and encoding related multifaceted electron cell phonographic response.

Speaker B: Oh, my gosh.

Speaker A: And these. These murmur moments are how the brain learns. They open the brain up for reprogramming. Now, if we have a situation where something happens, somebody does or says something that really gets to you, that's triggering. Well, uh, one way that we can do that is to react. Shoot the messenger, punish the messenger. Make sure they never do that again. Or tickle internally. Oh, maybe I really am horrible. However, a more productive way. In this murmur moment, this aha moment, your brain's open up for reprogramming. So why not take advantage of that and tune in as Jeffrey was talking about? Tune into that quiet level within ourselves where we're in tune with our true nature. Where we sense, where we know, where we experience that as we have some impulse there, it very powerfully radiates out into the environment. So use that, what might be a negative experience to create, uh, a transformation or a transmutation within ourselves and in the way the brain is functioning. And then the brain becomes more attuned to that more powerful, more harmonious state of function. That's how we take advantage of neurosense.

Speaker B: Uh, that's beautiful. Um, it's really powerful. Just that simple thing of saying, uh, this is an opportunity. If my brain's gonna remap itself, should I reinforce all the things that I'm not enjoying right now? Should I reinforce the beliefs that, uh, something's wrong with me or that other person? Or should I tune in and start building a foundation inside. Like an actual foundation in my brain for new experiences? That's fantastic.

Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And we carry around within ourselves an inner. An inner blueprint of who we are, what our life is. And usually when something seems to be an attack on us, it's either on our value, power or safety. Now, in reality, we're 100% safe, 100% powerful, 100% valuable. You are that conscious, unified field that creates the whole universe. But we carry around a blueprint that says, well, we're only 78% safe and 40, 42% powerful and 65% valuable. And then we resonate with that. And then we create in our environment all these events that Prove that we're right. And now we have objective evidence we can point to that. Oh, I'm not really 100% valuable. When we take advantage of these murmur moments to tune into a level in which we're 100% safe, valuable, powerful, the level of our true being, then that moment the brain has been open for reprogramming. We reprogram ourselves so we more and more attune into our true blueprint, which is 100% safe, 100% valuable, 100% powerful where we can create anything and where miracles, I like what Jeffrey said earlier, miracles come about spontaneously. You don't have to try. You simply be who you are and resonate to the level of who you truly are and your life will.

Speaker D: Yeah.

Speaker C: You know what's funny? Tomorrow everyone is the anniversary that I got laid off from Meta. I was there for seven years and then I got laid off. And it's awesome because to your point, there's a murmur moment where what is happening with my life, right? And then before that I had a little bit quiet, but it focused me on like how am I thinking, what am I creating in my life? And more recently I've been realizing I've been. I have a little tattoo got for surrendering and I just like I've accepted that I have this distrust in life, right? And this distrust in life makes us worry, makes us want to be in the future, makes us want to control what happens if we dare to say I actually don't need to control my life, I don't need to control everything external that I can't control what happens if I actually say like I trust the world, like I trust that I'm a consciousness, that the world is consciousness, that there's good things happening. Like yes, it's easy. You know, things in the world are sometimes are scary. There's but there's like there is still a level of trust I can have in the world that things are going to work out in the best way. Even if in the moment they seem like ah, they're still in the best way. So um, and even as parenting, just like a case point as a parent, I have that 2 year old that's crawling around and I have an almost 5 year old and 11 year old. But I realized when I start surrendering, I just day to day practical, I'm not reacting to everything all the time. Instead of feeling the agitation and like, like ah, if I just like accept things like not to say I like them or that I'm just gonna not parent but if I don't react to everything. I give pause and I more calmly respond. I just notice how much energy I'm saving. So even from a practical. Like, if you're like, oh, this might be a little bit out there for me, I'm not following the neuroscience. Like, but if you just practically think about how much time of your day you spend not liking something, reacting to something, stressing about something, what if you did it? What do you imagine? Just one of those elements left your life. How much more energized would you feel? Just imagine that.

Speaker B: Yeah, totally. That's funny, Anya, you remind me of a story. Um, uh, that sense when you said kind of reacting to things to me. If you learn to kind of be present and tune in and kind of slow down the part of your mind that's just trying to reinforce your beliefs, telling you, like, you're right, you're right, you're right. Don't change, don't change, don't change. If you can quiet that down and get tuned in with that party that's lined up with everything, uh, your perception actually expands my experience of it. Is that the present moment, uh, you can change the width of that, if you will. So my present moment can extend further and further into the future and past, but I'm experiencing. I'm understanding all that information, uh, in this moment. I think, um, this idea of linear time is mostly a side effect, being in a physical body. It doesn't mean it's the only reality, it's just the only one that's obvious to us. Right. Um, but when you said getting laid off, it reminded me of that. So I. I also got laid off from a Sun Microsystems, you know, layout club. Yeah. And. But because I was tuning in every morning, um, I. I was in the field before it happened. So a couple weeks before that happened, I was tuning in. I was, um, asking. I wanted to get a new cart. So I was driving a lot out to California. I wanted something with good gas mileage. And I was tuning in, asking my guides about it, my guidance, you know, and they were saying, oh, uh, today you can drive over. Even though there's no Prius available anywhere. They're all sold out. Um, if you go over to this place today, you can get one. And I was like, that's kind of weird. So, sure enough, I called the dealer. It's like an hour away. Oh, yeah, we've got two on the lot. Oh, cool. So I drove over. I got there. They're like, we just got a third one on. On the Lot. I'm like, okay. And the whole time I'm there, my guidance is like, buy the car. Buy the car. Buy the car. And I'm like, okay, this is a little bit, much too strong. But I was in this phase of life where I was saying, okay, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to experiment with my life. I'm just going to say yes and just try all the things that seem m. Um, impossible. I'm just going to just say yes to everything that's coming from within, not yes to everything that's coming from outside. That's kind of a note, right? No. Or wait. Um. And so I said, okay, great. I'm going to play this game. Uh, which car do I buy? They've got the top of the line. They've got the basic model. And my guidance is really clear, just said, well, which one do you want? And I said, okay, okay. We're playing this game. I want the top of the line model. And my guides are like, don't worry about the money. Don't worry about the money at all. So I'm like, okay. So I finance the whole thing. I drive home. Um, I'm feeling great. The next morning I wake up, and it occurs to me that now I've got a car payment that I didn't want to have, right? And I was like, I tuned in to my guidance, was kind of calm. I said, I need a little more information about don't worry about the money. Because now I'm kind of worried about the money. Um, and this really fascinating Clarity came in, said, um, okay, we need you to talk, uh, to your boss. You're working half time right now. Now he cut back to halftime because I wanted to move to Sedona. And they said, you're getting laid off in two weeks, so you're going to get a halftime severance package because you're working half time, but you worked full time for 10 years. So we want you to call up, ask your boss to go back to full time. You have a reason. You bought a car. You need to make the car payments. Uh, and they'll say yes. I was like, what? Okay. So I called my boss or I emailed her, said, I'm thinking about this, but I didn't really want to. I didn't want to work full time. So I'm like, I'm just thinking about it. And she emailed back right away, okay, I'm making the change. Uh, then I called her. I'm like, whoa, whoa, wait. I didn't Mean to do it. I'm just thinking about it. Is it okay if I go back to halftime afterwards? She said, jeff, let me make this change. Let me make this change. And I was like, okay. And so at that point, I went out. I took all my vacation time. We went on vacation. Um, at the end of that vacation, two, uh, weeks later, I just called my boss. I said, hey, I'm out in Mount Shasta relaxing at this retreat, and I don't have any vacation time yet. But it kind of feels like maybe, uh, I'd like to stay in there a day or so. Would that be okay? Can I make it up later? And she said, uh, no problem. No problem. Just take the time. Two days later, I get home, she calls. I'm really sorry to tell you, but you're getting laid off. And I just started laughing. I was like, oh, thank you so much. Oh, it's beautiful. I can't believe it. She said, you're the only person that said that to me today. But the reason was, um, I'm listening to the wider moment, and everybody can do this. Like, you start to notice, oh, there's information coming to you from all these future possibilities, uh, from the past. And it's very different from what you're used to tuning into. It's different from your. You're not like. I didn't think about any of that. I couldn't have made any of that happen through planning or process or meditation or anything. I just. I was receiving information because I let my mind calm down. And, uh. And then I was brave enough to take action, even though I had no idea why. Why it was right. I could feel it was good, but it didn't make any sense to me at the time. It only made sense, and it made a good story later. Yeah.

Speaker D: Yeah. Well, one of the things.

Speaker B: Uh, one more quick thing. I should mention the extra severance package. Like, I got a double severance. That was exactly the price of the new car, of course.

Speaker C: Of course. You lucky dog.

Speaker B: That car was three. Because I listened to my guns.

Speaker C: I love it.

Speaker A: Something I often say is, the intellect shouts, emotions scream, and the intuition whispers. And as you allow your mind, as Jeffrey was saying, quiet down. You can hear that subtle whisper, and you pick up on information that's much closer to reality. It's much closer to the conscious unified field. And so, uh, you're actually picking up information. It may seem strange for a scientist to be saying, but you're picking up information that's more profound than what you get on the level of the intellectual, and even Einstein talked about that, said he believed in intuition and inspiration because that's how you actually discover how nature works, is on the intuitive level. And then you use the intellect as a secondary tool to systematize that and experiment and mathematics and language and all that stuff. But the intuition is really the most profound way of knowing. And when, as Jeffrey was saying, when you allow your awareness to tune into that quiet whisper of the intuition, you get great guidance. It goes beyond the present moment, takes into account past, present, future, all time and space.

Speaker D: Yeah. And I love that because I feel like time is just something that we have a concept of in this world, but really the universe does not have the same concept of time. And all things can happen simultaneously. And in terms of what Dr. Larry is saying in regards to. To intuition whispers, um, it has been a real lesson to me to, like, learn to turn down my analyzer, as Jeffrey teaches. And it's really, um, attuned to what my intuition, intuition is actually whispering. And in my TED Talk, I actually, you know, discover that. And I say that every single time that I ignored my intuition, then my whole life kind of turned sideways. And, you know, there's all these twists and turns really leading me back to the original intuition that I already had that I did not follow. So that is really interesting. Well, one of the things that, um, you know, tying in both, uh, Dr. Larry and Jeffrey. Jeffrey, your mission is to make this energy work, and both of you are to make this energy work and higher awareness accessible to everyone. So I would love to see, how do you see this evolution of science aligning with the growth of human consciousness? And that's a question to both of you.

Speaker B: So.

Speaker D: Sure.

Speaker B: Um, well, I think in the long arc. Not that my life's that long, I'm in my mid-50s. But the arc of time that I've seen, things are already shifting globally in a really powerful way. So, um, when I was young, you didn't see, you know, you didn't see people exercising outside. If somebody was running, you thought, is there a fire? Did they steal something? Like, you know, it was just kind of a strange thing now. Totally normal. Right. So we went through that kind of phase that physical fitness became like an expected thing rather than a weird thing. Same thing's happening with what was called, like, kind of spirituality, or at some time, it was kind of called New Age. It was sort of like out here, like, we're, uh, shifting to where that's becoming kind of our normal consciousness. Um, but I think we're just at the beginning of that. Um, but it's nice to see that it's happening. And I think, you know, pulling from my wife, you saw me a little bit, she talks a lot about this. And, um, I think that this shift is really the only way that we're going to get out of all the big challenges that we have on the planet right now. So, um, the challenges with separation, um, and war and, um, fighting for seemingly scarce resources and power and, um, all these things really come from a misunderstanding or an outdated understanding of what's really happening in the world. And so, uh, right now we're all being pulled in the direction away from that sort of, uh, separation and sense of lack, all being pulled into this sense of fullness and connection. Uh, whether we like it or not. Everybody's making that transition right now. Um, but we're not all making it in a way that's graceful or beautiful. You know, like, the more we resist that, the more we cling to, like, what used to work in the past. Like, but I was. I was so good at this thing when I controlled the world. It doesn't really matter because we're not in that world anymore. Now we're in a different world. It's shifting, um, and it's a world that requires us to go a little bit, uh, and flow more than drive. Or maybe a nice way to think about it is if you love to drive the car, at some point, there's a transition in your life where suddenly you realize, okay, a, uh, GPS actually helps me. That's helping me a little bit. I can still enjoy driving, but I don't have to pretend I know everything about the road. But then there's also another shift that can come where you're like, uh, this came for me in, uh, Tokyo when I started riding in taxis. I didn't have a car for almost 10 years. And, um, it's like, there's something really nice about being driven, about being in the backseat, trusting that this person knows what they're doing and they're taking me somewhere and I don't even have to. I don't have to drive. And I'm like. I started realizing maybe I didn't love it as much as I thought because this is actually this. This sense of being on. On the journey, but not controlling every step of the journey really felt more comfortable to me. So. But it takes a little bit of letting go of, you know, this. This old world as we move, kind of move into here. But I, I think it's, um. Yeah, that's kind of my abstract, uh, perspective. But I'm interested in hearing Larry's perspective from a, ah, you know, more, more science perspective.

Speaker D: Yeah, it just seems to me like as what you said and then we'll, I'll let Larry also speak to this. Is that consciousness to me and the, you know, our awakening, um, into a more collective consciousness, um, and into a world of collaboration. It really starts with the connection that we have with ourselves and then that we are part of this universe where we're connected with others. And so when we connect to ourselves, we're actually connecting with others. And then that brings more collaboration and more into the consciousness. And so Larry, I'd love to hear what your take is on this.

Speaker A: I agree with both of you and you both put it very eloquently, Jeffrey and Amy, that well, the conscious unified field, which we now can describe mathematically in terms of quantum mechanics, it's a field of infinite harmony. And that's the nature of ourselves. So as we tune into ourselves, we're tuning into that level of light where we're one, where we're attuned with the universe and where we're attuned with each other. And I think in my observation, similar to what Jeffrey said years ago, very few people were involved in um, enlightenment, spirituality, development of higher states of consciousness. Now it's become much more mainstream and I think there's a major awakening taking place in the world. I was driving down the highway the other day and I saw a billboard. This was a billboard advertising United States Marines. And it was a recruitment billboard for the United States Marine. And it said battles are won within. Now, uh, if even the Marines are getting there. The inner is the cause of the outer. We've made some progress and I think that the role science can play in that is that people, some people uh, go with their experience and they don't necessarily need to have scientific explanation for it. And I honor and respect that view. Because if you're having experience that's self validating. Some people want more m of the intellect involved. They want more scientific proof. And then there are people who don't think that there really is a such a, uh, such thing as higher consciousness or enlightenment or intuition. And science can help to bring people to give more confidence to the people in their experiences who are already having those experiences and enjoying them and know that they're real. And it can also bring people along in this awakening who otherwise might not. Take a look at the cellar realms of life. Another thing that's useful for is talking to friends and relatives who haven't quite tuned into where we are yet. Those of us who are on a path of development, of enlightenment. Sometimes people that are close to us or relatives or friends or whatever, business associates, uh, aren't quite there yet. It's useful to be able to say, well, there's a scientific proof that this stuff will be. So in all of those ways, it can help. I think science can play a major role and bringing together. I mean, truth is true. And fortunately, science is getting down in neuroscience and in quantum mechanics to the level where we're coming up against the same truth that the ancient wisdom has always said. The inner field of pure consciousness is the same as the field expressed in different times and places and different metaphors and language. That field that creates the whole universe. And that's the truth that we're approaching both from science and from the field of art. Spirit.

Speaker B: That's a great way to say it. Yeah. It's like, um, I think you're right that science kind of, in a sense, um, maybe it's a little bit, uh, it's both ahead and behind the group consciousness, depending on where you are in that group consciousness. Right. So there's people that are out on the edge leading consciousness work where the science hasn't been able to catch up yet, but. But most people aren't there. Uh, and then there's science just kind of filling in this part. But it's also quite a bit ahead of most people, where most people are. So it's a great way to sort of stabilize that, make a safe, comfortable, uh, and even repeatable and validatable experience for people. Because not everybody's excited about innovating, especially in their personal consciousness space. A lot of people are more focused on, um, things that are closer to home for them. I'm taking care of my kids. I'm going to work. I got to pay the bills. Uh, so it can feel really safe when now there's, um, uh, a scientific body that's saying, okay, there's something real here and we could explain it to you. Even though most people won't dive deep enough to want that explanation. They just want to know that there is one.

Speaker C: Yes.

Speaker B: They want to know there's. There's people smarter than me that have figured this out and said it was okay.

Speaker C: Yes. And I love that we're going with that. Can I. I know I want to look at the time, guys. Let me know if you have anything to run to. Like, I want to be mindful of that, but I want to spend the last part of this, talking about this topic of closer to home. All of us are innovating. All of us are creating our own businesses. I want to talk about how can we approach this topic of mindfulness and consciousness and business together? Like, how can we think about holistic, conscious business and where's the value add? And what are your thoughts about how you're approaching your business perspective from that mindful, conscious standpoint?

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: Um, so something came to mind. I'll jump in. So, for me, um, a lot of people, when they talk about business, they talk about making money. And so, um, but I got to go back to my answer earlier. What am I here for? Why am I here? To be of service. So if I center myself and my business around being of service, money is something that just comes naturally m. Uh, it's a circulation of energy. So if I'm helping and providing value to people, more and more people, then naturally, uh, that energy is going to come back to me. And if I structure things, well, it can come back to me financially.

Speaker A: Right.

Speaker B: Uh, but if I focus on how do I make more money with what I'm doing, uh, it's pretty easy to lose track of that, that inner guidance and just listen to, like, oh, the expert said, post these five things on Facebook, do these things on social media, you know, structure. You know, you need these price levels. Like, those are. There's nothing wrong with all those systems, but they're not necessarily for every person. So the main thing is in business is being able to tune in and say, is that advice I'm hearing, Does it feel good to me because I'm insecure and I need somebody else to tell me what to do? Nothing wrong with that. We all have that. Or does it feel good to me because it resonates with what's already inside me? And somebody articulated it in a way that I wasn't able to. Somebody made a plan out of it in a way that I wasn't able to. Okay, now that's feeling really good. Right. So that's a person that I feel like, in resonance with, in harmony with. And, uh, they're a couple steps ahead of me in sort of materializing it in the material world. Um, but if it's. So, that's how I'd say in business is follow. Mostly you're trying to follow within, but also including the other people that are on the same vibration, uh, as you, and the same kind of frequency as you, uh, for that input and for all the people that you just think know better than you. Or maybe they think they know better than you might be just, you know, kind of like, um, don't listen so much.

Speaker A: Right.

Speaker B: Because there's so many ways to be successful in business. And you're going to feel better if you're successful in a way that aligns with, you know, your true drive within. Uh, you can make lots of money in many ways, but if you get there in a way that doesn't feel like you, you kind of, um, you know, it's kind of like, what's the point?

Speaker D: Right? I still agree with that. And also, since you're in Japan, I'm going to mention Ken Honda and happy money. Um, and I, I really believe in that. There's the money, there's energy in money. Money is energy. But when you're looking in your wallet and you're spending money, is the money well spent in terms of, like, is it giving you happiness and is it giving others happiness in terms of serving others? Um, so is there resonance? And Dr. Larry and I talk about resonance quite a bit in terms of the people that we come across, the people that we're collaborating with, are they in resonance with who we are and so that we can, you know, maximize and serve more together, um, and make more impact, a positive impact in the world. And that's, you know, you can make a lot of money, but, like, how much impact and positive impact are you going to make? Are you going to leave this place, you know, better than what you know when you were there? So, Dr. Larry, do you have anything to add to resonance in terms of physics?

Speaker A: Sure. Well, yes, very, very much with respect to resonance. We have our own, like a guitar, it's pluck and cartridge, it vibrates a particular resonant frequency. We have our own resonant frequency. And there are people, there are paths of, of action, there are environments, there are all kinds of experiences that truly resonate with us, and then there are some that don't so much it doesn't mean one's right and one's wrong, but go. I agree with what both of you have said, Jeffrey and Amy. When you're tuned into what truly resonates with you, you're going to be resonating with nature and you're going to be resonating with where you're putting your awareness, and that's going to result in that you're supporting what you're doing. There are several factors with respect to business and personal life as well, that there are several factors that really make a difference in terms of manifesting the life you like to create. One of them is clarity of vision. And clarity of vision is not the same as specificity of result. Life is a series of experiences. It's not a series of events, it's not a series of objects, it's not a series of things. The universe is an experience. Life is a series of experiences. We might think, okay, I really want a million dollars. Well, uh, do we want a million dollars so that we can have freedom and uh, give money to support the things we uh, love and help the people that we love and have more self expression to make a big difference in the world? Do we want money so we can press people with how important we are? Do, do we want what's, what do we think that million, what experience is that million dollars going to bring? Let's say we get the million dollars, but you get it by robbing a bank. Then you got your million dollars in the bank, you spend the rest of life in jail. It's not the million dollars, it's the experience. So clarity of vision means what experience of life would I like to create? And you resonate with that experience on the level of your consciousness, then you create that also with respect to resonance, it's important to have your intellect, your emotions and your intuition pulling in the same direction. Often when we don't get what we want, we may think, okay, I ought to do this, do this, I ought to have this water. This water. And on the intellect level. And the heart's pulling in another way. And it's subtle intuition may be calling in another way. So when we become, when we open to our awareness. Yeah, okay, clear. The intellect says this, the emotion is saying it. And allow the mind to quiet down to that subtle intuitive, oh, this is the deeper guidance is going in this way that allows us to focus in business and in personal life on what is really resonant. All the parts of ourselves are resonant within ourself. And what it resonates with our true nature. And then we have a very powerful impact. A very powerful impact is. It sounds too concrete a word. We have very powerful resonance with nature, which brings us about. So it's in business, uh, it's as in personal life, it's critical to have inner resonance. It's critical to have depth of experience. It's critical to have clarity of vision, depth of experience. If we're experiencing something on a, on a superficial level, we're trying hard, uh, then actually it's not moving nature very well very effectively. When we experience a resonance on a very, very deep level, it's moved nature on a deep level. It moves people on deeply. When people see deeply within you, that's what this person's really about. And they're more inspired by that. So all of those are factors.

Speaker B: That's great. Yeah. I'd add one word to that list. For business people, I would say, um, patience is really important, too. So especially when you start tuning into this inner guidance, you're going to get inspiration and visions and stuff. You're like, wow, this is great. I can feel that I'm going to be able to touch a million lives and do this. And it's not that those visions aren't true. Those are all great possibilities, but they're not necessarily true for tomorrow and next week. Right. So when you start tuning in, you have to have a little patience with, uh, that sometimes you're seeing something that's a little out in the future and moving toward it. And you're moving toward it, um, whether you're actively moving toward it or not. So you don't have to jump in. Try to make that happen next week. Reform your whole business, and then be disappointed because it didn't happen. Kind of also tune into natural timing. Like, not just what's the possibility, but what are your likely timeframes for this to come about in, um. And when you have that second element of a little bit of patience, suddenly you're like, oh, it's okay that my dreams aren't manifesting today. We want it all today. But that's not, um. That's improbable. I guess the way to say it

Speaker D: that actually, um, uh, I wanted, like, highlight a little bit of Anya's um, mission right now is that she has this big vision and a dream, and, um, and she's bringing that about with her cell phone app. You want to talk a little bit about that and how, like, you're bringing m consciousness into your business. And also, she's a super, super mom and superstar. Uh, when I talk to her a lot, her kid is, like, sitting there and he wants to play and he do all kinds of things. She takes it all in stride. And it's as if, um, she's handling multiple things at the same time, and I'm not sure how.

Speaker C: So thank you, my dear friend. And you know what I found? I'm. Gonna. After this, I'm gonna do something simple, random. I'm gonna have Dr. Larry and Jeffrey ask each other one last question. Okay? Is that okay? And then we'll do a lightning round for, uh, both of you now. I want to respectful your time. So I just want to add what I found is like when I surrender, when I decided I am just going to stop trying to control the universe, that more serendipity is happening to the journey. Right? Like more cool things are happening, more people are supporting my startup. Um, I'm finding something to your point that's not about like I want to make money. It's really like I want to get to what motivates me get in the day and night is like I want to live from a place where I have so much love in my heart that I'm giving from a place of not needing. That's what's in my heart. Like I want to get to a place where I'm cleaning up all the junk inside me that's like, oh, uh, you're scared. And I don't like this and I like that. And I have a very narrow like acceptable range of like if I get away from being narrowly focused on what's acceptable, what I like and don't like, and expand my energy and clear up all my junk, then what inspires me is to live a place where I'm so overwhelmed with love that I'm serving from that place. Not because I need something externally. So I'm really driven to think about what is happening externally if I'm, I can't fix my internal state by external things. And that's what's on my mind right now a lot. So this is what's funny, that this inspiration is happening exactly as I'm building a startup and I'm, I'm like creating this second surrender experiment. I'm m like what will happen if you just surrender and see what the things. And so, so far it's just been incredible. Uh, I'll keep you all posted on the podcast, so follow it. But thank you, thank you for being a friend. Also a serendipitous guest on the podcast the in this journey. And just maybe like one last question from each each one of you maybe to each other and then we'll wrap up. Does that sound good? Instead of a rapid fire question, let's actually for respectability time, just do one last question and we'll wrap up.

Speaker D: All right, cool.

Speaker B: Sure. Larry, you want to start? Um, I'm better at answering questions than asking them.

Speaker C: See, that's why I gave you time. That's why I gave you a moment.

Speaker A: If you had, if you had one, one kernel of wisdom, one take home message that you could say to people who are listening here briefly, what would that be.

Speaker B: Yeah, that's a good one. Um, one take home message. Yeah. That things are not as you believe they are. And that's a good thing. So take like, if you're listening to this, like, take any inspiration that we shared with you that resonates with you. And then anything that didn't, feel free to just leave that on the side. And uh, but please open your mind to that, that understanding that there's so much more that you don't understand, that I don't understand, that none of us understand, um, than there is that you do understand. And let that be okay. Like your ego, I should say, like my ego doesn't necessarily like that. It wants to believe that I'm smart and know everything and, and in some sense can control things. But, uh, that's a very, uh, stressful way to live. So, you know, I'd encourage you to say it's okay that I don't know everything. It's okay that I, um, feel like I'm making it up sometimes. And enjoy that part, enjoy that aspect of you. And just like for me, I have a love of being here in this life in this form where it's just not really possible to understand, uh, the speed at which things are really happening. I'm in this kind of like tiny, kind of slow moving concrete body, like pretending I'm m moving linearly through time and pretending I'm separate from everything. This is like a really fascinating experience. Uh, but that's all it is. It's just an experience. So just, uh, don't try to understand and know everything. It's okay that you don't. And um, I think having that, um, openness will suddenly allow so much more to come in. So let's see. Yeah, that's a good question. Maybe I'll. Maybe I'll put the same one back to you because I was just curious. I was going to ask Larry, like, um, what else is there? What's probably the same question actually. What's the one little nugget or the one little thing that's on your mind right now? It's probably already there that, um, you would share.

Speaker A: As a summary. I would say, know yourself, be yourself and love yourself. And in doing that, allow nature to take its course. Be aware that the intellect shouts, the motions scream and the intuition whispers and tune into rap. Subtle whispers.

Speaker C: Thank you so much. I love, I love this episode. This was so much fun.

Speaker D: I for one, would love to hear from both of you, um, Clary and Jeffrey, on what you're working on now. Um, in business, that is connecting all of the knowledge and all of the things that you want. You both have service, um, in mind. And, um, so I'd love to hear what you were currently working on and what your vision is for them.

Speaker B: Sure. Yeah. I can dive in. Yeah. It's easy for me to talk. Yeah. What I'm working on right now is kind of fascinating. So, um, most people know me for teaching intuition and energy work, and I work through mindvalley because, um, they're so fantastic at reaching many people. And, um. But right now I'm actually working with my wife, Isami, on a project called Spirit Mind. And it's. It's really her teaching that she's been sharing in Japan for many years. And, um, it's blowing me away. So it's, um. You know, I knew when I married her that she had something really special, like she was tuned in in a way that I never even dreamed I could be. But she didn't do any of the things that I thought were necessary to be tuned in. She didn't, uh, meditate or, uh, read books from spiritual teachers or. She didn't do any of those things. She didn't use any energy tools. I was like, okay, here's a person that's already to the place I'm thinking I can get to if I diligently apply my tools. But she isn't diligently applying any of those tools. So, yeah, it doesn't mean mine m won't work. It just means they're not required. Right. And, uh, so I've been diving deep into what is her world, her vision of how things work. And, um, it's fascinating because it's taking me on a new journey. And it's a journey that really is in parallel with some of the, uh, science that I have looked into. Like the diagram she draws. Everything just comes to her from oneness, is completely lined up. Uh, she's really a genius in a way that, um, amazes me. So that's what I'm doing right now. It's like, okay, I'm getting new information from somebody that steps ahead of me. I'm just lucky that it's my wife.

Speaker C: Was that the girlfriend? Was that the girlfriend that tapped into your dreams? Was that the.

Speaker B: No, no. Actually, no. The girlfriend. I did marry that girlfriend, but it didn't last.

Speaker C: Gotcha. Gotcha. Just to clear up, okay, what about you?

Speaker D: Yeah, I loved your love story. So I know that you didn't tell it today, but, uh, I love the love story because it was the form of communication in different languages, but without actually like it was a non verbal communication in energy that was, that you had.

Speaker B: That's true, yeah. Um, we still don't, neither of us is fluent in the other's language still. We've been married 14 years. But I guess the, even though that has a lot of day to day challenges, the good part is I never pretend that I understand what my wife's saying. I'm not under the illusion that I'm always getting it. That makes me slow down a little bit, listen a little harder.

Speaker D: I love it.

Speaker C: And Dr. Larry, what about you? I'd love to hear your take.

Speaker A: All right, well, I talked a bit about the scientific research and very little bit about my own explorations of enlightenment and higher states of consciousness. It was actually 20 years ago that we did that research and uh, by that time I had actually I learned transcendental meditation from Maharishi Maharaj Yoga. Being at Harvard when I was still here. The lecturer, I learned from him, I spent years with him. And as I started to connect this with the science, it was 20 years ago that I did that research and I spent the last 20 years developing techniques to apply the science of creating miracles in people's lives. To create miracles. My book, the science of creating miracles, neuroscience, quantum physics and living the life of your dreams is actually about what its title says. It's about I, I do individual consulting, I do retreats where people come and the main focus of it. And I love what Jeffrey said in the very beginning, uh, of this whole podcast. He was talking about experience, experience, experience, experience. The whole focus, although I'm assigned it the whole focus of what I do in my work with people. And individual consulting and retreats that I have is focused on the experience techniques to open the awareness to these subtler levels of creation within that we've been talking about and then bring that out in your life. I'm also involved in some specific projects. One is using brainwaves to evaluate peak performance in athletes and uh, also in high uh, pressure business situation and working with some people who are experts in those fields. Because your brain really, how well your brain is functioning really has a tremendous impact on everything else. And all these techniques that involve the training or subtler levels of thinking, incorporating these murmur moment experiences and turning your brain to a more effective style of functioning, they have very practical outcomes in terms of hitting home runs or hitting home runs in the business. So I'm involved in working on that in those particular arenas. And I'm also just beginning a Project using brainwaves to evaluate and communicate with children who are on the autism spectrum. Because a lot of them. I developed the first brain computer interface to communicate directly from a brain to a computer using electrical brain activity. Now there are thousands of labs around the world that did, but at that time there was only one. And a lot of these autistic kids are non verbal or non vocal and yet some of them are brilliant. And so, uh, I'm involved with some people in autism world in developing programs to allow autistic kids to be viewing their brains when they can't do so well, their. With their mouth. Of course, what I'm also very much always involved in is my own, my own inner development. I think that's the key to everything. That's the focus. I'd like to think I have something to offer to other people. And yet the foundational, I think all of you will agree, from what you said, is really our own inner development, our own inner attunement with ourself, with our own unbounded consciousness. But that's, that's really what my life and. Oh, and having fun. Yes, yes. You know, there's a big world out there. There's a lot that we can do to help people. And yet, uh, I mean the purpose of life is expansion of happiness. It's, it's got to be fun, it's got to be thrilling. It's got to be enjoyable if we're going to make a real success of what we're. The. What we're all out there to do.

Speaker C: And this was awesome.

Speaker D: And Dr. Larry did not mention that he's a black belt in kung fu, so.

Speaker C: Of course he is. Of course he is. Because why not, right? Well, friends, this was delightful. I'm giving all of you high fives, like, thank you so much for making this possible. I just want everybody listening to feel just like the realm of possibility. Right? You think about if everybody here decided to honor their intuition to get curious about like what, what is the inner game happening? How does that affect their life? And incredible things happen for everybody here. So if you're just wanting that little kind of push, the little motivation, just like no matter if I'm in business, no matter if I'm in like my own spiritual findings, no matter if I'm an athlete, there's something to gain, to get curious, to get quiet, to follow that inner voice and to make your own miracle happen. So thank you so much for joining us. Right off track, let's take over the world together with love and Amy thank you so much for hosting. Dr. Larry. Jeffrey, it was a pleasure.

Speaker D: Thank you so much for having us.

Speaker C: My pleasure.