From Verbal Turbulence to Leadership Mastery: Wendy Watson’s Guide to Personal Growth

Speaker A: Hey there, leaders. Feeling overwhelmed managing your team of four to 10 people in a small to mid sized company? We get it. Join Denise Cooper on remarkable leadership lessons. She's here to help you navigate the challenges of leading change, building a thriving culture, and empowering your team to work smarter, not harder. Each episode, we'll unpack actionable strategies and inspiring stories from real leaders just like you. We'll tackle the issues you face every day, from fostering collaboration to driving growth. Join Denise as we unlock the secrets to building a high performing team that delivers remarkable results. Buckle up, um, and get ready to take your leadership journey to the next level with remarkable leadership lessons.

Speaker B: Today we're going to meet Wendy, uh, Watson, who has become mine. I'm one of my favorite, favorite people. I know I say that each time, but she is so unique, so effervescent. So, like, this is the woman to know. And she is a spiritual therapist. And I didn't know about this, so this was a new education. You know how I love to learn. And CEO of, uh, TBR Spiritual Health. Wendy's dedicated, um, to guiding individuals through healing and personal growth, specializing in helping people overcome trauma, cultivating healthy relationships, and address mental and emotional challenges. She was a BBV Torch award finalist and is the author of a book called verbal turbulence the 702010 rule. We're going to talk about all of these wonderful things here. And so she offers practical tools, you know, I love that. And compassionate support to empower you to reclaim your inner peace and fulfillment. And in this world where change is everywhere, I think everybody listening could use a little inner peace and fulfillment. You know what with that. How you doing, Wendy?

Speaker C: Hi, Denise. Thank you for having me on. Hello, audience. Thank you for listening today.

Speaker B: So, um, the fun story is, is that Wendy and I met because she's part of Lead Hership Global and she was in the boot camp, and I did a, uh, uh, class for the boot camp and she reached out to talk to me. Well, in our discussion of just getting to know each other and sharing and helping each other kind of grow and do things for our business and whatnot, she started telling me about what a spiritual therapist was and her story and journey for that. And I thought, you know what? I know there's somebody out there who needs to hear this today. So I invited her on. She said yes. And within two days, here she is. See, this is a woman of action. Okay?

Speaker C: Yeah, I don't twiddle around.

Speaker B: When she sees what she wants, bang, she goes for it. And I think we all want to Feel that goodness of, um, knowing that we're in the right direction. When the lead shows up, we just follow it because in our heart, we know it's the right thing. So, Wendy, tell us about you and a little bit of your story that describes your journey to where you are now and what is a spiritual therapist.

Speaker C: So being a child of divorce at 8 left me very angry. And then my mom, out of guilt, then decided to spoil us. So you can imagine, eight years old, extremely angry, also very spoiled. Like, if she told me no, I would literally throw a temp temper tantrum. And then let's add in some very toxic step families where the grandkids stole from the parents, stole from the grandparents, all the things lied to each other. Tried to separate my dad from his kids. You know, the whole kitten caboodle. Which led to my two divorces from narcissistic, verbally abusive, psychologically abusive, emotionally abusive men. Also growing up on a construction site with my dad, which led me to be very assertive, which did not bode well for working in corporate America.

Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. You forgot your place, didn't you?

Speaker C: I. I knew my place. We just didn't agree on where my place was.

Speaker B: I love it. I love it.

Speaker C: So after my second divorce and loss of a child, I decided to go on my spiritual journey and figure out what am I doing? Why am I picking these people? Why does. Why does my community look like a bunch of drunk, emotionally immature, toxic people? And so the more I went through that journey and being in, you know, going from corporate America to massage, the more I incorporated my journey into my massage business. It's more than just massage. It was energy healing, it was life coaching, it was massage work. And I noticed just how big of an impact it was having. I helped a woman go from suicidal tendencies and telling me I was her last option. In just five sessions, she had a whole new outlook on life.

Speaker B: Oh, my goodness.

Speaker C: And had all these grand Juliss plans and, um, finding her space in the garden and all of these things. And so I was called to do more, be more, and stop doing the one on ones and do the one on manys. And then Phoenix wasn't the right spot for that, so I needed to move up to Denver. So I closed my massage business. I've moved my rental property up to the Springs. I sold my house, I put my dog down and moved up to Denver, where I didn't know anybody had never been to, and started all over again.

Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Talk about change. And. And is this, like, been the Last two years.

Speaker C: That was two years ago. Okay, two years and three months.

Speaker B: Are you back on your feet?

Speaker C: Oh, I'm, you know, there's a lot of things where I'm back on my feet and a lot of things that still need progress.

Speaker B: Okay, okay.

Speaker C: But yes.

Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker C: So a spirit, how I see a spiritual mentor from my perspective is that I just want to help you to be your most authentic self, to develop and really take ownership of whatever your beliefs are. I've worked with Jews, Christians, super spiritist, woo woo people all across the board. I've worked with couples, men, women, kids, and it's all about you. What is your journey, what is your beliefs, what you know, what do you want to work on, what do you want to develop? It's not about me and what I believe in. So you know. Yeah, like what are your beliefs? Who are you? Let's get that developed so that you can create the life that you want to create, create the business or the work environment that you want to create and be the, the type of leader, whether it's personally or professionally, that you want to be.

Speaker B: Okay, so let's slow down a little bit here because you use the words what are your beliefs? And I think most people talk about values, they talk about their passion, they talk about, you know, uh, those kinds of things. But beliefs is very different, um, when you say that. So can you distinguish between values, beliefs, traditions? Maybe. I'm not sure.

Speaker C: Yeah, so I think values are more, um, like how do you value money? Mhm. Do you value money in a sense of, uh, finances determine success for you. Right. Do you value money as in it's a tool, but beliefs is whether or not you deserve that money.

Speaker B: Mhm.

Speaker C: Okay, Right. Beliefs is whether or not you feel like you've earned it or you know, what are your beliefs around money? Do you believe that because you've earned X amount of money you need to give a tithing or a donation? Do you believe that you shouldn't make more than $200,000 a year because then you're getting into gluttony? Right. So what is it that you believe that is around money versus how do you value money? Mhm. Versus the principles around money are different. Right. So are you using your beliefs to determine your principles, meaning you don't take drug money, meaning. Right. It's got to come from an ethical source with your beliefs?

Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Ah, yeah. I had a, um, in fact, I think it was last Saturday I was talking with another friend and um, she, all through her life she grew up middle class, but then because she had a severely disabled child, she had to quit work to take care of her child because she wasn't going to let the state take care of her child. And she wound up being in, um, not having a lot of money. And now she's in corporate America. She lives in a nice, um, condo. This overlooks the downtown area of the city that she's in. And they were complaining because they couldn't get to their parking lot. Now they only had to park a block, not even a block, half a block away from it, but the entire building was, you know, in uproar. Wrote a letter to the city complaining about that. And she felt really uncomfortable. And we had this conversation around. Are you uncomfortable because she was a person of color? It's white privilege. Are you uncomfortable because it's economic privilege? Because this is a building that has money and they have the attention of city hall and when they write a letter, city hall pays attention. And she struggled with, I don't know, it seems that it's just a mindset of they can get whatever they want. And I said, when you have money, the rules don't always apply. And she had to sit with that.

Speaker C: Yeah, she really, I bet she did. She had to sit with that emotionally, spiritually.

Speaker B: Mhm.

Speaker C: Right. And figure out what exactly her emotion, mindset, beliefs and everything are around that.

Speaker B: So that, and I would imagine at some point she's adjusting. What does economic privilege look like and do I embrace it? And what does that mean from an actions point of view? Am I, you know, and that's one of the problems with people in general is change is hard and change is scary.

Speaker C: Change is hard. Um, but without change, there's no personal growth, there's no development. In fact, I just had this conversation the other day with somebody that told me that they were really, that they were afraid at the future. And so I, I'm like, okay, so what are you afraid of? Well, I'm afraid of change. Okay, so what is the worst case scenario? So he told me that he was afraid his life would implode. And I said, okay, worst case scenario, what does that look like? And he thought about it and he was like, well, this, this and this. Which to me seemed very basic.

Speaker B: Mhm.

Speaker C: I said, okay, so if that's the worst case scenario, what is there to be afraid of? And he's like, oh, I don't know. Okay, well do you still want to be the same person next year that you are today? And he's like, oh, absolutely. Not I want to be a better person than I am now. I said, okay, then change has to happen. It's all about how we use our experiences in order to help us change. And taking that daily choice of, um, okay, this is the vision for my life. Right, right. First of all, creating that vision.

Speaker B: Right.

Speaker C: At least some part of it. And then taking a little step, uh, every day towards reaching that vision. You know, a lot of people get so afraid of it because they see this mountainous task in front of them. Or it feels mountainous.

Speaker B: Yes.

Speaker C: It feels gigantic.

Speaker B: Yes.

Speaker C: It's the same feel. When I looked at my first business plan, I was like, like, I don't get intimidated by a lot, but I saw that I was like the clothes.

Speaker B: Right.

Speaker C: I felt, uh, completely intimidated.

Speaker B: Right.

Speaker C: And the best advice that I got was change one word at a time. First, change the sample business name to your business name.

Speaker B: Right.

Speaker C: Then change the sample address to the business, uh, to your potential business address. And then just work on each, Work on one paragraph at a time.

Speaker B: Right, right, right, right.

Speaker C: It's the same thing with change in life. We see this big task, but let's just focus on one thing that we can do every day that works us towards the vision and the mission that we're setting for ourselves.

Speaker B: You know, I think that, um, first of all, thank you. Um, because it make, it brings home all those kinds of colloquialisms like bite, you know, one bite of an elephant, you know, you don't eat the whole elephant kind of thing. I'm always saying, small steps creates amazing change, amazing, amazing results and things like that. And they're probably, you know, centuries of comments and quotes and whatnot that are all about the same of just taking those small steps. And once you get that momentum of the small steps, then suddenly things build upon themselves.

Speaker C: Well, even just taking one thing every day, like if there was one thing that I could take today to lead me to my next goal, and it would, it automatically makes me feel better that I got one thing accomplished and that I could check it off the list.

Speaker B: Mhm.

Speaker C: And that helps me to move forward, to do the one thing tomorrow.

Speaker B: Get that one. That, um, endorphin rush for the day. Instead of getting it on social media, why not get it on clicking off your tasks that lead to your goals?

Speaker C: Yes.

Speaker B: I love it. I uh, love that. That is so. That's, that's, it's easy and it feels easier than, you know, sitting down and building out something so big. And, and I know you take your clients through it. I take Mine through it. And it's always amazing, you know, six months later when we go back over as coaches and say, look where you came from, that they go, oh my God, I can't believe we've gone this far. We've done this much.

Speaker C: Yes. And I usually do that at the halfway point too, so that it will help them keep going the rest of the program.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker C: And you know, when you're making those smaller adjustment, those smaller tasks every day, you don't see the huge improvement that you've made.

Speaker B: Right.

Speaker C: Two, three weeks, two, three months down the road. Mhm. Because they're so small. And so you really need to have somebody in your community to be like, wow, you've done all of these little things and look at how much you've accomplished.

Speaker B: Yes, yes. And that, that reminding even in organizations, one of the exercises I do is, um, a look back. So at some point it's just, you know, we, we're so busy with our head down, headed towards something, we forget to look back. And looking back helps to make sure that you're on the right path. Has anything changed? Do I need to change? You may not change the destination, but you may decide not to crawl over those mountains or swim through that swamp, right?

Speaker C: Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. You know, you have to know where you've been in order to figure out where you are now.

Speaker B: Mhm.

Speaker C: And where you want to go. It's like setting a new bar. Because where you were then you set a bar, you've made some changes, you've made some progress. So now it's like time to, you know, check in and create that new bar so that you know where you

Speaker B: want to go forward. And you know, and I think the hardest thing for most people and why they don't stick with it is, is has to do with motivation. I did a, uh, I talk about motivation all the time because in the beginning you're not consistent. And sometimes what happens is as you look back and I was supposed to, I'll take something easy, exercise four days a week for 15 minutes. I didn't do it. Drink water, 8 ounces of water, at least once a day, kind of. I didn't do it. I was going to empty my email box. I didn't do it. And as I think about your five pillars of change, they are self leadership, self ownership, self awareness, effective communication, and tria blazing skills. It seems like you've wrapped that idea that change isn't linear, that it encompasses a lot of stuff and that you know, it, you, you can't always Judge how far you've come by the actions you've changed. Is that true or am I just making that up because it fits?

Speaker C: I mean, I don't feel like we should judge anyways. Like it's not our job and it's not linear. This life is 3D, which means change is 3D.

Speaker B: Mhm.

Speaker C: And the ripple effect that you create based off of how you change within your family, your community, your circle is what makes it 3D. You know, those five pillars for me are really crucial. Let's take trailblazing skills, for example. When we hear the word trailblazer, we're generally think of, you know, Amelia Earhart, the Wright brothers, um, Elon Musk. Right. Oprah. Right. But we, that's great on the big picture, but on the smaller scale, in the microcosm of it, we are our own individual trailblazers. We are each blazing our own particular trail, our own particular path, our own mission that we are on. And I don't think most people see themselves that way. But you truly interesting. You truly are a trailblazer. You're a trailblazer for your family based off what it is, whatever love, legacy, business, legacy, family legacy that you're leaving m. You're still a trailblazer for your individual life. And so recognizing that, taking ownership of it will help you to feel empowered and to feel confident and to take ownership of, uh, whatever your life path looks like.

Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. Of, of the five, which, which are your favorites.

Speaker C: So obviously, because I've already mentioned it, trailblazing is my. Is the one that brings me joy when I talk about it.

Speaker B: Okay.

Speaker C: Just because it, it is so unique to that person.

Speaker B: Right.

Speaker C: And when they start feeling like they're a trailblazer, it just lights them up from the inside.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker C: Right. And so that in itself is beautiful. Um, so my other two are self leadership and self ownership. Because there's not. And I'm going to say self ownership second, because there's not enough people that take self ownership. Right. We're always worried about what the neighbors think or what the family is going to think or, you know, how they're going to perceive our opinions or our thoughts or whatever. So we hold back. I don't believe anybody should ever hold back. Be you. Be our authentic self and take ownership of. This is who I am. I also respect you for being who you are.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker C: We can agree to agree, we can agree to disagree, or anywhere in between, but this is who I am.

Speaker B: Mhm.

Speaker C: And being able to take ownership of That I think is one of the most empowering things a person can do, whether even if it's trauma, just taking ownership of your trauma and being like, yes, I'm traumatized because this dog bit me, or, yes, I am. This is how I feel because of this event. Take ownership of those things so that you can figure out what you want to do with it. But also owning who you are and just presenting it that way, like. And a loving part of you. Right.

Speaker B: I mean, so every incident, everything that happens to you becomes a piece of you. Uh, and so taking that ownership really sounds like it's good, bad, no judgment intended at all on any of it.

Speaker C: You're not judging yourself. You're just accepting who you are for who you are.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: And then.

Speaker C: Right. So there's the acceptance of it. But then, you know, just like, ownership, like, this is. This is who I am, and there's

Speaker B: a level of agency of, yeah, who I am today doesn't have to be the same person I was tomorrow. Right.

Speaker C: You're not going to be the same person from moment to moment, let alone day by day, year by year. Right. So being aware of how you're changing, especially us women, we know that we're not the same person every day. Thank you. Hormones.

Speaker A: Right? Yeah.

Speaker C: Yes. I'm. I'm just going to take on it. I feel bloated today. Right. So I'm nowhere. I'm not going to wear jeans. I'm going to wear something a little bit more comfortable and fitting. Right, Right. And just not finding that judgment in it and just be like, this is what it is today.

Speaker B: And that in. And I don't know, I. I know that much of our critique comes from the outside. Right. But that doesn't mean that we have to accept that critique.

Speaker C: That's right. So there's a. There's a book out there that calls them contracts. So what a lot of people will do, and it's a proven science, if you get told over and over again that you're ugly, you eventually take on.

Speaker B: See yourself that way. Right, Right.

Speaker C: And you eventually believe that. But it's your choice whether or not you want. If somebody projects something at you, which is something that I talk about in my book, it's up to you whether or not you accept that projection or reject it. But you have. I believe you have to think it through. Right. Figure it out for yourself. How does that make you feel? Do you agree with it? Do you not agree with it? And if you don't throw it back at them, um, just Throw it away. And if you do figure out what you want to do about it.

Speaker B: Yeah. Either change it, accept it, or reject it.

Speaker C: Right. And that's the self leadership.

Speaker B: Okay.

Speaker C: Taking lead of how you operate. Right. Taking lead of how you accept what other people are projecting at you.

Speaker B: Right.

Speaker C: Or, you know, throwing at you when

Speaker B: you, when you encounter somebody who tells you, you know what? I'm, I, I don't have any power. I'm, um, I'm just somebody who goes to work every day and, you know, they. I'm not a leader. I don't have a title. I'm not empowered to lead. What do you say to them?

Speaker C: You lead yourself every day. Just because you don't lead a team doesn't mean you don't lead. You lead yourself by getting up in the morning and getting dressed and going to that job and making the money to put the food on the table and to pay the electric bill and all of those things. That in itself is leadership. The power that you have within your family is where your power is. The power in, uh, leading yourself and how you lead yourself and the choices that you make. That is what your power is. Because you can't control external elements. You can't control other people. You can't control whether or not you get the promotion or the raise or whatever. Your power is in you. How you operate, what you believe in, how you feel, your ethics, your values, how you treat people, how you love people, how you love yourself. That is where the power and the leadership is. And you have those choices every day.

Speaker B: You know, it's the choice of how do you step up, show up, and then speak up.

Speaker A: Right.

Speaker C: Uh, yeah, it's really, you know, people, humans in general tend to put these famous people up on these stages and idolize them and glorify them. And so that's what we think leaders are. But to me, the real leaders are the everyday people that get up every day and they're intentional about what they do, and they focus on their family and they love people and they work on their personal development and, you know, all the goals and the things that they want to do in their life, whether that's traveling or having kids or not having kids or whatever that mission is. Those, to me, are the real leaders.

Speaker B: So is your work mostly with, uh, individuals or are you incorporated?

Speaker C: Most of my clients have always been individuals. Um, I have worked on a couple which I think, you know, was just amazingly beautiful that this couple decided to go through spiritual mentorship, spiritual therapy together. And the vulnerability and the openness that they shared with each other on that level was just beautiful. I don't have any other word for it.

Speaker B: So what does a session look like?

Speaker C: So as I work intuitively. So a session could include some verbal mentorship, it could include some energy work. Um, I've also partnered with a trained monk in Sri Lanka because he's way better at meditating, doing meditation than I am. So why not and help a third world country at the same time? Right? So there's that. So my first session is all about what, uh, are your goals, what do you believe? You know, finding out all the things about you and then letting my intuition guide that conversation and guide that session. Um, the most recent session that I had was, you know, I have this 56 year old client who's, um, been an entrepreneur and in corporate America for decades and she's really been masculine energy forward and really kind of built up those walls, working in a mass, in a male dominated industry.

Speaker B: Okay.

Speaker C: And now she's feeling called to be more in her feminine energy and to kind of soften up and, um, look at life more through beauty and nature and these amazing things. So we talked about what that would look like for her, what kind of tools would be best for her to do that. Um, a lot of it. You know, she wears a lot of black clothes, which is a very masculine color. So I told her, when you get up and you go to get dressed in the morning, I want you to put on some color. She's. Then she text me the next morning. She's like, all I have in my closet is black. I'm gonna have to go shopping this weekend.

Speaker B: And you know, a lot and we get messages of, you know, having a monotone or at least a, um, there's a term for the clothing, dresses that you have that are all interchangeable and stuff. It helps in terms of decision fatigue. And so we can get into this rut of, no, I need all black or I need all white, or I need, you know, just a certain set of colors because I don't want to have that as part of the decision. Because I make a lot of decisions, particularly executives that I talk to. I'm making decisions all day long and it's exhausting.

Speaker C: It is exhausting. So why are, why are we, why are we forcing our human brain to make those decisions for us instead of just allowing our spirit and our intuition to guide us on what we need to wear, on how we need to act on the tasks that we need to do? I don't decide what I wear every Day I let my intuition and my guide tell me what I need to wear, right? And they will always just give me a vision of the outfit. And I just go with that. It's one less decision for me to make and it's far less exhausting. When I go to eat a meal, I let my spirit, I let my intuition tell me what I need to eat.

Speaker B: Is the spirit more of a. Like a knowing? For most people, it's almost like you're saying that you just kind of know when you have to accept, you know, right.

Speaker C: It's stepping away from the taste buds and what your mouth wants to eat. What your human brain has created habits right around eating, right? Because there's. Humans are habitual creatures, so we kind of get in this habit of, oh yeah, I eat hamburgers on Monday and I eat spaghetti on Wednesdays. And you know, whatever it is, and it's stepping outside of the taste buds, stepping outside of the brain and letting spirit energy, whatever you want to call it, intuition, wisdom, tell you what you should eat, what your body needs versus what you're craving.

Speaker B: In your book 70002010 rule, uh, verbal turbulence. First of all, why the name?

Speaker C: Because who doesn't have verbal turbulence going on in our heads? You mean like digital thoughts that doesn't have verbal turbulence going on in their minds?

Speaker B: So then what's the 70002010 rule?

Speaker C: Okay, so I was given this. This by my audit manager because if you can imagine, I was a perfectionist, right? And uh, to the point where it was, I was not building relationships at work. This is back when I worked for corporate America.

Speaker B: Mhm.

Speaker C: And so he comes to me one day and he says, look, as long as 70% of the invoices go through, fine, 20% get escalated, and 10% we write off. That's our goal.

Speaker B: Okay.

Speaker C: And so first it was like, you're willing to write stuff off. Like, this is a new concept to me. Why are you willing to write stuff up? And he's like, it gives us a little bit of grace. And I was like, yes, yes, it does. And so I kind of had to sit with that for a little bit. And then I started looking at it in the terms of communication, in the lens of communication. And I realized that most people, 70% of their communication is their own stuff M. Their own beliefs, their own emotions, their own experiences, their own whatever. 10% might be a combination of their stuff and it being personal to me, but only 10% of their communication was directly personal to me. So my first thought was, well, if only 10 to 30% is actually personal to me. Why am I taking anything personal?

Speaker B: Okay. It's just who they are.

Speaker C: It's just who they are. It's a projection of what's going on in their verbal turbulence.

Speaker B: Right, Right.

Speaker C: So if that's them and that's their stuff and what's going on in their brains, why am I taking it personally?

Speaker B: Right, right.

Speaker C: Then choosing. Right. This is where the self leadership comes in is choosing of that static that we're getting in all day every day. Well, if it's not personal to me, and I'm not going to take it personally, of that 100 of conversation that they're throwing at me, how much of it is valuable to me? Right. So now you're using discernment to keep all a lot of this traffic out.

Speaker B: Mhm.

Speaker C: And you're taking less stuff in. When you're taking less stuff in, you're spending less energy processing other people's stuff, which means you have more energy for yourself.

Speaker B: Okay. Okay. How do you start that though? I mean it seems, that seems, it sounds very simple, but it is very difficult.

Speaker C: It is.

Speaker A: Ah.

Speaker C: So I started it with people that were the furthest away from me in my circle.

Speaker B: Okay.

Speaker C: Uh, so basically with people at work, people at the grocery store, you know, that kind of stuff. It's intentionally listening. You have to intentionally listen to what they are saying in order for you to find out what of what they are saying is valuable to you. And so it does. Just like learning how to ride a bike or anything else. It takes effort at first.

Speaker B: Yes.

Speaker C: But once you get the hang of it, once it becomes more second nature, it just becomes so much easier.

Speaker B: Absolutely.

Speaker C: Spend that energy on it.

Speaker B: Yeah, right.

Speaker C: So as I improved that. Because here's, here's how I look at. If you're taking, just like I said, if you're taking less stuff in, then you have more energy for you. Just like with the air filters or whatever, the less stuff in, the longer the air filter will.

Speaker B: Less. Yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker C: Um, and then flipping it around on me, what is the 70% that I'm projecting on people?

Speaker B: And that goes under the second one. Right. So it's more that self, uh, awareness. What am I doing that's causing people to have a conversation that is not aligned with what I mean?

Speaker C: Or am I even giving them valuable content?

Speaker B: Oh, even that.

Speaker C: Am I projecting my own trauma? Am I projecting my own experiences? Or am I giving them valuable information?

Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker C: And then the third step was what am I saying to myself?

Speaker B: Okay.

Speaker C: And I realized that 80, 90% of my internal communication was negative. So if I'm speaking to myself negatively, what do you think's going out?

Speaker B: That's a less powerful person. A less confident person.

Speaker C: A less confident person. A less powerful person. It means I'm projecting negativity. Right. All of these things. Because that's what's brewing on the inside.

Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ah. So I probably don't want any help because I don't want to show up. I feel like I'm not enough. Therefore I don't volunteer.

Speaker C: Self conscious.

Speaker B: Yep.

Speaker C: Uh, um, lack of confidence.

Speaker B: Motivation. Because I don't want to. I don't want to be seen. I don't want to be seen. Right.

Speaker C: Which means you can't be your authentic self.

Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. Interesting. So, um, do people get a hold of you?

Speaker C: They can go to my website. T as in two B. As in B are revealed Spiritual health dot com. So that's tbr, Spiritual health dot com. Uh, you can book a free session there. We can have a private one on one. You can check out what I do, see some of my reels and my, um, presentations and stuff.

Speaker B: Okay with that, Ms. Wendy.

Speaker C: Thank you so much. I really appreciate everybody listening today. This has just been amazing show. I love everything that you do for people, Denise. It's just, it's beautiful. And let me just say this. Be your own leader, be your own advocate and, um, lead the life that you want to lead. No matter what that looks like for you, no matter what other people say

Speaker B: and believe that you can have it. There's this whole thing that you can believe that you will figure out what it is you want if you really, really want it. And with that, see ya.

Speaker A: Uh, thanks for joining us on another episode of Remarkable Leadership Lessons. Remember, true leadership isn't about having all the answers. It's about inspiring your team to find them together. If you enjoyed the episode, don't forget to subscribe for more actionable leadership insights. And if you're facing a specific challenge, leave a comment or a review. We might feature your question in a future episode. Let's keep the conversation about remarkable leadership going.