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Office Hours | Made From Mistakes

Office Hours with David Meltzer · 2026-06-25 · 16 min

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Key moments - from our scoring

Substance score

19 / 100

Five dimensions, 20 points each

Insight Density3 / 20
Originality3 / 20
Guest Caliber7 / 20
Specificity & Evidence2 / 20
Conversational Craft4 / 20

David Meltzer and Nick Glazer host Sanjeev Lao, CEO and founder of Regen Therapy, on Father's Day to discuss how mistakes fuel learning and growth. The episode challenges the misconception that wellness and longevity are expensive luxuries. Meltzer and Lao emphasize that foundational health practices - breathing, movement, sleep, nutrition, hydration, meditation, prayer, and community - are free or low-cost, making longevity accessible to everyone regardless of income. Lao explains the shift from traditional wellness toward personalized longevity through measurement and standardization of health protocols, while Meltzer draws on blue zones research showing community - not climate or resources - drives longevity. The hosts promote their traveling mastermind series (Vegas, Chicago, Newport Beach, Philadelphia, New York, Miami, London) and emphasize that self-education and intention matter more than expensive interventions. This episode benefits entrepreneurs, health-conscious professionals, and anyone struggling with affordability concerns around wellness.

Key takeaways

  • →Failure and mistakes are essential to the learning process, and people quit prematurely because they're too hard on themselves instead of understanding what went wrong and how to improve.
  • →Education and proper information can prevent mistakes and save significant time, energy, and emotion by helping you move faster from point A to B.
  • →Longevity is a standardized measurement-based evolution beyond wellness that personalizes health protocols through physician oversight and measurable markers rather than following generic social media trends.
  • →The foundational elements of wellness and longevity - breathing, movement, sleep, nutrition, water, meditation, prayer, and community - are either free or inexpensive, making health achievable regardless of financial resources.
  • →Community is the primary factor determining longevity and health outcomes, as demonstrated by Blue Zones research which found life expectancy correlated with social connection rather than nutrition or environmental factors.

In this episode

  1. 1Father's Day Greetings and Tour Schedule Announcements
  2. 2Introduction to Longevity and Regen Therapy
  3. 3Making Mistakes as Part of Learning and Growth
  4. 4Longevity vs Wellness: Defining the Difference
  5. 5Affordable Wellness: Free Foundations and Community
  6. 6The Importance of Community and Purpose in Longevity
  7. 7Daily Takeaways: Education and Intentional Health

Mentioned

David MeltzerNick GlazerSanjeev LaoRegen TherapyJay AbrahamTim StoryChris VossMessiInter Miami CFSoFi StadiumFanatics Fest

Guests

Sanjeev LaoNick Glazer

Topics in this episode

Blue ZonesRegen TherapyLongevity versus wellness distinctionHyperbaric oxygen therapyBlood pressure and cardiovascular measurementsCommunity-based healthMeditation and prayer for healthOffice Hours TV Show Season 11Car wash tour (community meetups)

Questions this episode answers

What's the difference between wellness and longevity according to Sanjeev Lao?

Wellness is feeling good in the moment (aided by modalities like hyperbaric oxygen therapy), while longevity is about standardizing measurements and protocols for sustainability, personalizing interventions based on individual data, and having them overseen by physicians - making it data-driven and tailored rather than one-size-fits-all.

What are the free foundational practices for wellness and longevity that David Meltzer recommends?

Breathing, movement, sleep, nutrition (which doesn't have to be expensive), and hydration - plus meditation, prayer, and community. Meltzer argues these five essentials keep your heart beating and are free or low-cost.

Why does the blue zones research show that community matters more than other factors for longevity?

Research on blue zones revealed that people live longest, healthiest, and happiest in strong communities, not in places with the best water, food, sleep conditions, or exercise environments. Community and purpose are the primary drivers of longevity.

How can people avoid mistakes related to health and longevity?

Nick Glazer's takeaway emphasizes self-education: properly educating yourself saves time, energy, and emotion while limiting the mistakes you have to make, helping you accelerate from point A to B more efficiently.

What is Sanjeev Lao's biggest advice for people afraid of making mistakes?

He stresses that trying and effort are most important, mistakes are part of the learning curve, and failure is a necessary part of the process. The key is to learn from mistakes rather than quit when they happen.

What our scoring noted

Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.

Insight Density

3 / 20

Almost entirely platitudes about mistakes and free wellness habits, plus long promotional logistics; no non-obvious B2B-relevant claims an operator would learn from.

failure, uh, is a part of the process
God tells you you just got to keep your heart beating to be alive

Originality

3 / 20

Recycled self-help and wellness tropes (blue zones, failure is learning, be interested not interesting) with no fresh or contrarian thinking.

be more interested than interesting
we found out the blue zones weren't about those other five. They were about community

Guest Caliber

7 / 20

Guest is a CEO/founder of a longevity/regen therapy company and a relevant practitioner, but the transcript reveals little about scale or operational accomplishment, and the topic is unrelated to B2B operations.

the CEO and founder of
As a longevity expert

Specificity & Evidence

2 / 20

Vague throughout with no metrics, dollar figures, or concrete data; the only specifics are city names on a tour itinerary, not substantive evidence.

not everything and every modality is meant for one individual specifically
good nutrition is not expensive

Conversational Craft

4 / 20

Hosts ask soft, leading questions and pile on agreement and praise; no follow-ups or challenges, and much airtime is consumed by self-promotion.

That's so good.
I love that. And there is a transition and expansion from wellness into longevity

Conversation analysis

Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.

Share of words spoken

  • Speaker A47%
  • Speaker C27%
  • Speaker B26%

Most-used words

longevity19father16mistakes15sanjeev14wellness13community12back10nick9wash9happy8thank8vegas8plus8love7free7show6

Full transcript

16 min

Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.

Speaker A: Happy Father's Day, everyone. We have a, uh, rough start here, too. Made from mistakes. So it's apropos, I guess the universe is utilizing us as an example, as all we're doing beginning of the show, is making mistakes. We got all types of different shows going on and different introductions for different shows, but something is steady, and that's my friend Eddie, the Nick of Wom. He is steady Eddie. Nick Glazer on Father's Day, giving his time to Sanjeev and I thank you so much, my brother, for co hosting the show.

Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. No, the thank you goes to you. And a happy Father's Day to you and Sanjeev. I know, uh, obviously we have, uh, quite a close relationship, and I can tell you that, uh, your, uh, your beautiful family is so blessed to have you as a father. Just as blessed as you are to have them. So I want to wish you very, uh, very special. Happy Father's Day. And thank you, uh, for taking the time to celebrate everything celebratable with our community.

Speaker A: That is awesome. I think we've lost Sanjeev now.

Speaker B: That's all good. We can, we can remind everybody of, uh, where we're going to be while we get Sanjeev back on. Um, as I know, we got a jam packed schedule on our way to over 200 cities every single year, adding on what we call a car wash in every one of our cities, which is the addition of a community meetup, whole holding court, or even one of our VIP dinners for charity. And I know Sanjeev is excited because he's going to be traveling with us to Viva Las Vegas this week, as we are going to be there for office hours TV show season number 11. Adding on a car wash in Vegas, of course. And then we'll be off to Chicago, Illinois for another stop on the car wash tour, before then coming back to California and having our Newport beach mastermind with Tim Story and Austin Keane and Sanjeev, of course. And we got

Speaker A: Marie, Diamond James, uh, Marie, uh, diamond, uh, Jay Abraham. Sanjeev, I think is gonna, uh, also, right. Or is it Stefan?

Speaker B: Yep. Sanjeev. Yep. We got too many.

Speaker A: That one's Lotus. Then we go back to Vegas. Go ahead.

Speaker B: Yep. Then we go back to Vegas for NBA Summer League. And then we'll be in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania for MLB M All Star Game, plus Home Run Derby, plus car wash. And then we'll be back in New York City. Finally, the wait is over for all of our, uh, New York City family. We will be back for Fanatics Fest 2026. Then we'll be back at the greatest stadium in the world after the World Cup. That's SOFI Stadium in Los Angeles. For our SOFI Stadium Mastermind, we'll be in Miami, Miami, Florida with Messi for our game day Inter Miami CF football experience. And then, of course, we're going to be jumping across the pond with Sanjeev once again for our London, UK Mastermind. Plus car wash there as well. If you guys did not get it. At the beginning of today's show, we created a text community to keep you informed and reminded on where we're going to be. So if you would like the invitations but not obligations, just text us at, uh, area code 949. Next three digits are 2, 9 8. Last four digits are 2, 9, 005.

Speaker A: You got it, my friend. So Sanjeev is back. We are ready to rock. We are ready to roll. Welcome to episode 901 or so or more of Office Hours Made From Mistakes. The amazing Sanji Lao is here to join us as, uh, the CEO and founder of. And help me out because my eyes are bad. What, uh, is it Regen therapy? Yes, thank you. There we go. Uh, but thank you so much for joining us. Well, you know, the show's called Made From Mistakes because a lot of people are too hard on themselves and they end up quitting when they don't understand what mistakes are. Uh, you are extremely successful in so many different realms. Um, for you, how do you help younger people get over the fact that they've made a mistake or even more importantly, encourage them to make mistakes?

Speaker C: Yeah, I think the biggest thing, David and Nick is like, people are afraid to make mistakes, you know, And I think that's a part of. That's a part of the learning curve is understanding, you know, trying is the most important and putting out the effort there. And then if you do make a mistake on that part, uh, getting the opportunity to learn from it and understanding what went wrong and where you went wrong and being okay with it. Um, I think, uh, most people are afraid to make those mistakes. And then they also, after they make the mistakes, like you said, they want to quit. Uh, they feel like they're failure. And failure, uh, is a part of the process. Uh, and it's a part of the learning curve. So I love the, I love it when, uh, you know, uh, you get the mistake that you can learn from. Uh, that's all of them. Um, but the big thing is doing it, uh, so that you can, you can learn from it.

Speaker A: That's so good.

Speaker B: And Sanjeev, you know, one of the things that I've learned that uh, in alignment with being made from mistakes is a lot of people will make mistakes simply because they're not properly informed or they don't have the right information and being uh, and sitting in the situation that you are. As a longevity expert, I, I would love to learn from you in terms of understanding what longevity really is and how it differentiates from all these common terms such as wellness or, you know, various different method medical models for health. So can you give us some clarity on that to make sure that our community is of course properly informed?

Speaker C: Yeah, and I think it's uh, longevity is a transition from wellness into the longevity space. So wellness was really, hey, I feel good. I'm feeling all right. And there's these cool modalities like hyperbaric oxygen therapy, tpe, um, and what I think longevity is doing and what we're trying to build is standardizing that uh, measurements. So looking at tools to measure, uh, so that you can have sustainability on the protocols that you're, that you're going to. And you nailed it, Nick. You know, education is the biggest thing. So the secondary piece to longevity is understanding the space, uh, and what's out there and, and how it fits into your life. Because not everything and every modality is meant for one individual specifically. There's uh, so many things that are, that uh, are being thrown in our way, uh, via social media, via uh, uh, you know, commercials, uh, advertisements, Tik Tok, all these social media platforms that tell us all the time what they think that longevity should be. Um, and the real cool thing about what we're doing is saying, hey, that might be great for someone, but let's personalize it for you. Let's find out what's going on and let's find out how we can uh, ah, keep that in your. Keep put that into your life in a, in a way that's kind of overseen by uh, you know, physicians. And um, you know, we can measure it just like we measure things like our heart rate, our blood pressure, our cardiovascular uh, profiles that we do when we get our blood tests, uh, and understanding it and then building around it because that's so, it's so important to have it. So I would say that the transition from uh, wellness, uh, to longevity is really the definition of the movement.

Speaker A: I love that. And there is a transition and expansion from wellness into longevity. And you know, I always tell people I don't care because I'm going to live to over 111. But I want to live happily, healthily, wealthily, and worthily, uh, in those 111 years or more, kind of like 900, uh, one episodes or more. But a lot of people feel, Sanjeev, they can't afford wellness, let alone longevity. And they constantly. And I will tell you, both of my parents growing up in Akron, Ohio, uh, they jeopardize and sacrifice their wellness and longevity, um, because they just felt as if they couldn't afford it. And it really frustrated me because I had the same, if not less amount of money than them, and I was able to live a very well and contribute to my longevity. Uh, and it came to me that I just had to look at what God told me was wellness. Right? God tells you you just got to keep your heart beating to be alive. So what keeps us, our heart beating is breathing. That's free. Movement. That's free. Uh, sleep. That's free. Uh, and then nutrition is not free, but good nutrition is not expensive. And then water or hydration. Right? Because those are the five things. If you don't do, your heart will stop. If you don't breathe, you don't move, you don't, uh, eat, you don't drink, and you don't sleep, you're gonna die. So I call on all those people, what are some of the other things as we talk about wellness and longevity that everybody can afford to do and stop the misconception that I can't afford longevity?

Speaker C: Yeah, no, you nailed the foundations, David. And, uh, me and you are both from Ohio, and so that, uh, I get it. And I want to democratize the space. I want to make it affordable for the people of my hometown and where I live. And I think the only thing that I would add to what you said, obviously, you nailed it with foundations of, like, exercise, nutrition, um, you know, what you eat, what you drink, how that works into your flow of life. Uh, I would add meditation, prayer to the. To those things. And then the other big thing is community. You know, we don't have a purpose if we don't have

Speaker A: scared. Yeah. We found out the blue zones weren't about those other five. They were about community. Uh, people live the longest and healthiest and happiest, the best communities. It wasn't the best water, food, sleep, or movement places in the earth. It was these communities. And, uh, uh, hopefully we'll be able to pop back in to finish that question. Um, but in the meantime. In the meantime.

Speaker B: Oh, that's perfect takeaway. Oh, hold on. Here he comes. He's coming in hot.

Speaker A: Yeah, man. He still has the Akron, Ohio, Internet. Ironically, San Diego and akron were the two of the first five cities to get high speed Cat 5 Internet. So it changed their entire.

Speaker C: Yeah, no, I have great Internet, you know, Problem. My problem is that someone keeps call. Like, I'm getting phone calls while I'm on the phone.

Speaker A: Happy Father's Day. Happy.

Speaker C: So, I apologize. I just. I get a lot of Father's Day wishes. I know. Uh, I need two phones. I need two phones. But, yeah, I was. I was sorry about that. I was saying, like, purpose is, uh, a big thing. Community is the other one. And then, you know, like, prayer, meditation, and learning to do those things are the other foundations that are always going to be free. But community is the big one. You have to have a reason to live a healthy, long life. Um, and that those are all free, uh, that requires no money, um, and being around people that support, uh, your longevity. Purpose.

Speaker A: Right?

Speaker C: And that's why I love you guys so much. Um, uh, because we're in the same thinking cycle or.

Speaker A: That's awesome. Well, Sanji, we're going to let you go because it's Father's Day and too many people want to talk to you. This is a shorter show anyway, for Father's Day.

Speaker C: No, no, it's okay. I apologize so much. Yeah, no, no, we love.

Speaker A: We're part of our community. And those blue zones are also based off a community as well, where people have wellness and longevity both. Uh, they found out it wasn't necessarily the nutrition or the water or the air quality. It was actually, believe it or not, the communities that they belong to. We are blessed to have Sanjeev in our community. Happy Father's Day, my brother. We'll see you tomorrow in Vegas. Thank you.

Speaker C: Thank you, David. Thanks, Nick. I, uh, appreciate you guys so much.

Speaker A: See you tomorrow. Happy Father's Day. Go, man. My phone's blowing up as well. So we're doing the abridged edition. Let's get to the takeaways of the day. Uh, I can't tell you, though, as a father, to have a couple surrogate sons, uh, like Nick Glazer.

Speaker B: What?

Speaker A: Uh, a big compliment. When I'm on the road and people ask me, oh, so this is your son? Because everybody knows I have one son. I'm like, no, he's my surrogate son. Uh, but what a compliment it is to me for anyone to even consider, uh, that relationship. So thank you, Nick, for everything you do for your wonderful, happy Father's Day wishes for doing this on Father's Day, uh, and being so damn consistent and such a great student. But what's your takeaway of the day?

Speaker B: Uh, all goes to you. I got chills. And we don't need to go down a love fest here, but you know how much I appreciate you. My takeaway of the day, when we talk about made from mistakes is something I think we pass over, um, a little bit too much or don't take into consideration because we look at, uh, the mistakes that we can make in learning them through experience. But I think there's also a self accountability that can come into play, which Sanjeev touched on with education and how educating yourself properly can save not only so much time, energy and emotion, but ultimately help accelerate the process getting from A to B and limit the amount of mistakes that you'll have to make.

Speaker A: So good. Mine is it's not expensive to have wellness in your life or longevity. And the majority of the things that will move the needle for you are free or don't have to be expensive. Does it help to have concierge doctors and blood tests and. Absolutely, man. But it's just like college, you know, if you desire to be the best that you can be, go buy a library card, get on the Internet, go to YouTube. Uh, you there. There's so many different ways today, uh, to do what we want to get done in a divine direction. And so, uh, you. It's not expensive. It's more intention. Do say, think, feel and believe your divine direction to wellness and longevity. Stop making those critical mistakes for the biggest mistake you're going to make, your health. Uh, and I promise you, if you're healthy, you get as many wishes a day as you want. If you're unhealthy, you only have one wish. Uh, let me briefly. Nick, I'm going to go over the review and then you close us out real quick. Just to remind you, we'll be in Las Vegas season 11 with all the big names. You can't even believe them all. Chicago, Illinois with VIP dinners, meetups, holding courts and interviews. Newport beats with Tim Story, Jay Abraham. Uh, oh, boss. Chris Voss is going to be in Vegas with us. Uh, that's huge. Just one of the many. Newport Beach, Tim Story, Jay Abraham, Marie diamond, uh, San Jeeves, Stefano Senecropi back to Vegas, uh, as well for summer league Philly for the all Star game. These are all plus car washes. New York is fanatics. Uh, Fest plus car wash. SoFi Stadium plus car wash. Miami FC with Messi plus car wash and private members group, private investors, big investor mastermind in the uk. Plus car wash. All you got to do is join our community. It's our blue zone. It gives you wellness and longevity. 949, 298, 2905 is the way that you get invited and stay informed. Or email the beloved servant. David means beloved. D is my first initial. Meltzer means servant. Email the beloved servant to tell me how it can be of service or value. Nick, let's rock and roll this thing right into Father's Day. What do you got to say?

Speaker B: Yes, sir. I want to take the wise words of Mr. Meltzer. Mr. Meltzer, the beloved servant. By reminding everybody to be more interested

Speaker A: than interesting and be kind to your future self. Especially on Father's Day, be kind to your future self and do good deeds. Hit it. Hit it.

Speaker B: Gigi.

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