
No BS Sales School · 2026-05-26 · 5 min
Key moments - from our scoring
Substance score
19 / 100
Five dimensions, 20 points each
Walker Moore uses a real incident with his longtime friend and LinkedIn expert Lindsay McMillian-Steeman to demonstrate how to repair trust when you make a mistake. After highlighting another LinkedIn user in a podcast episode without mentioning Lindsay (despite referring people to her regularly), he received a vulnerable message from her expressing hurt. His response - calling immediately, apologizing sincerely without excuses, and taking full responsibility - forms the core lesson. Moore emphasizes that the moment you add 'but' after 'I'm sorry,' you lose credibility and people stop trusting you. He reframes responsibility as something that belongs to you even when the fault technically lies elsewhere: when you're the customer-facing person, you represent the company. The episode teaches sales professionals and leaders that phone calls beat email, ownership beats defensiveness, and silence beats justification. For B2B operators managing client relationships and team dynamics, this covers the behavioral mechanics of trust repair that directly impact customer retention and internal relationships.
Call them immediately by phone and apologize sincerely without making excuses. Never send an email or text, and never follow your apology with 'but' or any justification - that destroys trust instantly.
Yes. When you're in front of the customer, you are the company. Take responsibility and own the problem even if it technically came from your vendor or operations team; the customer doesn't care whose fault it was.
People lose respect very quickly and stop trusting you. As soon as you start justifying or defending yourself with 'but,' you undermine your entire apology and damage the relationship.
After apologizing sincerely without excuses, commit to how you'll make it right and follow through, rather than dwelling on reasons it happened.
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
The episode distills to two pieces of advice - call don't email, and don't say 'but' after apologizing - both of which are common-sense, widely-circulated sales wisdom. A significant portion of the runtime is consumed by a personal anecdote about a LinkedIn connection, leaving very little room for novel, actionable insight.
Nobody gives a shit. Nobody cares. As soon as you start making excuses, people lose respect very quickly.
I want you to never to make excuses after you say I sorry I want you to never justify defend or explain
The core framework (own your mistakes, don't qualify apologies with 'but', phone over email) is standard sales and customer-service advice recycled from countless books and trainings. The opening quote is explicitly borrowed from another author, and no contrarian or first-principles thinking appears.
One of my favorite authors, Steve Sims, says, nobody drowns from falling in the water. You drown from failing to get out.
If somebody leaves a baby on your doorstep, that may not be your fault, But it's your responsibility to take that baby and get it somewhere to safety.
This is a solo host monologue with no guest; the host is a sales trainer sharing a personal anecdote. There is no practitioner, operator, or domain expert to evaluate, and the host's own credentials or scale of experience are not demonstrated in the transcript.
Walker McKay with No BS Sales.
So I posted my first podcast. I did my first podcast in my new series a couple of weeks ago
The only concrete evidence offered is a single personal anecdote about one named contact (Lindsay McMillian-Steeman) and a brief reference to a LinkedIn video editor. There are no metrics, company names, dollar figures, or research cited anywhere in the episode.
I get a note from my friend Lindsay McMillian who has been my friend, my business associate, my healthy business partner, healthy business connection for a long time, 15 years.
I talked about a young lady on LinkedIn who had reached out to me who was a video editor on YouTube.
The episode is a short solo monologue with no interviewing, follow-up questions, or challenge of any claim. The structure is rudimentary (one thing to do, one thing not to do), and the rhetorical device of anticipating objections ('But what if it wasn't me that screwed up?') is executed at a surface level with no real depth.
So I'm going to share with you one thing that you must do when you screw up and one thing that you must never do when you screw up
Now, here's what some of you are thinking. But what if it wasn't me that screwed up? What if it was my vendor?
Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.
Everybody screws up.What matters is how you handle it. In his latest podcast, Walker shares a personal story about making a mistake with his longtime business friend, Lindsey McMillan, and the one thing he did immediately to repair trust. No email. No text. No BS. Just ownership.Everyone knows mistakes happen but excuses make them worse.In this episode, you’ll learn: - Why the mistake usually isn’t what breaks trust - What to do immediately after you realize you screwed up - Why you should pick up the phone instead of hiding behind email - How excuses destroy credibility - Why taking responsibility matters even when it wasn’t fully your fault - How ownership can build trust back stronger
Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.
You're going to screw up. I screw up all the time. One of my favorite authors, Steve Sims, says, nobody drowns from falling in the water. You drown from failing to get out.
It's not the problem that usually gets you. It's what you do to try and fix the problem or not fix the problem that will either make you or break you. So I'm going to share with you one thing that you must do when you screw up and one thing that you must never do when you screw up so that you can build trust, repair trust with your boss, your coworker, your client, your customer, your prospect, whomever that you screwed up with. So I posted my first podcast.
I did my first podcast in my new series a couple of weeks ago, and I talked about a young lady on LinkedIn who had reached out to me who was a video editor on YouTube. And I said what a nice job she had done, that she commented in my posts first, and then she reached out to Link. And then she sent me a message saying how much she appreciated one of the posts that I had written. And then she reached out and said she'd like to talk to me about what we did.
Maybe we could help each other. It was a really great way to use LinkedIn. So I posted about that because so many people do it wrong. And I told people at the end on the podcast I told you hey call her if you need video work with LinkedIn or need some help with LinkedIn She be a great resource for you And I meant that sincerely So a couple weeks later podcast gets posted and I get a note from my friend Lindsay McMillian who has been my friend, my business associate, my healthy business partner, healthy business connection for a long time, 15 years.
We've known each other for a long time, worked with each other, helped each other. And she's my LinkedIn guru. She's the person I go to when I have LinkedIn questions. She's reached out to me and make suggestions.
I refer her all the time. If you're looking for somebody to come speak about LinkedIn or train you or your team about LinkedIn, Lindsay Steeman is the best. Lindsay Million Steeman. But I didn't mention her in that episode of the podcast.
And I got a message from her, a voice message from her. She said, hey, Walker, I'm having a very human moment. She said, I noticed she kind of sang this other person's praises about LinkedIn and suggested people call. And I know that there are other people that do LinkedIn, but I was kind of wishing you'd give me a little bit of a shout out.
Just needed to tell you that. And I got to tell you, I listened to that message and I was like, oh shit, I screwed up. Lindsay's one of my dear friends. She is a good person.
She is excellent at what she does. And she would be the first person I would send somebody to, as I said, to work on the LinkedIn, but I didn mention her in that post So what do you do when something like that happens You pick up the phone You don email you pick up the phone So the first thing you do when you recognize you screwed up is you call the person that impacted and you apologize even if it not your fault, right? Even if it's not your fault. So I called Lindsay immediately and I said, oh my God, I feel terrible.
I am so sorry, right? I apologize with every fiber of my being. I said it sincerely. I called her immediately and let her know that I was very sorry.
Now, here's what some of you are thinking. But what if it wasn't me that screwed up? What if it was my vendor? What if it's our operations people?
Here's what you do instead. I am so sorry. I screwed up. Own it.
Take responsibility. When you're in front of the customer, you are the company. I want you to take responsibility for something that goes wrong. If somebody leaves a baby on your doorstep, that may not be your fault, But it's your responsibility to take that baby and get it somewhere to safety.
Take responsibility for the problem. Own it right there. Your customer, boss, whomever may say, no, no, I know it's not your fault, but I want you to own it. So that's what you must do.
Say you're sorry. Say it sincerely. After you finish, after you say, I'm sorry, pause. Among the worst things you can do after saying I'm sorry is to add the word but.
So here what you never do I want you never to make excuses after you say I sorry I want you to never justify defend or explain You don say I sorry but so back in operations didn get the message and it was da-da-da-da-da-da. Nobody gives a shit. Nobody cares. As soon as you start making excuses, people lose respect very quickly.
That's where you'll lose respect. People won't trust you anymore and you won't deserve it, right? Take ownership. Never make excuses.
Own the problem. Now, I must admit, when Lindsay called me or when I heard her message, I was like, I talk about Lindsay all the time. I write about her on LinkedIn all the time. I do all this other stuff for Lindsay.
What's going on? You know what, though? That wasn't the point. That's not what she called me about.
Did I bring that up? Hell no. You know why? Not important.
Said I was sorry. I didn't make any excuses. And I told her that I would somehow find a way to make up for it. So that's what I'm doing.
Lindsay, you're the best. If any of you listening need help with LinkedIn, reach out to Lindsay McMillian-Steeman. You'll find her on LinkedIn. The other person I talked about on my first podcast, she's very good too with video for LinkedIn.
But call Lindsay if you want help with LinkedIn. Walker McKay with No BS Sales. When you make a mistake, and you will, apologize immediately with the phone, not with email, not with text. Apologize immediately.
Don't make excuses. That's the way to handle it in No BS Way.