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MSP Success Podcast

Hosted by MSP Success

The MSP Success Podcast is the PREMIER podcast dedicated to helping the CEOs and owners of managed IT services businesses build strong, profitable, growth-oriented businesses. Visit for more!

108 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-03-11 · ~28 min/episode

Rank

#1727

Substance

68.5

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Startups & Founders rank

#265 of 922

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Across the index

#1727 of 6182

Substance

Top 28%

outscores 72% of the index

Why it scores where it does

MSP Success Podcast ranks #1727 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 68.5 out of 100, scored across 2 recent episodes. It scores highest on guest caliber and specificity & evidence. Doug is a legitimate MSP operator with 16 years in business, $4M+ revenue, and real scale (two locations, seven technicians, low client churn). He's a practicing founder/CEO, not a consultant or speaker-for-hire. However, he's not extraordinarily prominent within the broader B2B or technology ecosystem - he's a solid regional MSP owner, not a standout entrepreneur with cross-industry significance or exceptional outcomes that would warrant the highest tier.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 2 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

13.5 / 20

The episode contains several useful operational insights (30-day contracts instead of automatic escalators, hiring customer service reps without tech backgrounds for front-desk roles, focusing on profitability per technician as capacity units) but heavily padded with personal anecdotes about family sacrifice, Lego collections, and relationship philosophy that don't advance MSP business understanding. Many observations are familiar (hire slow/fire fast, work on the business not in it, focus on client relationships) without novel depth.

“I don't have automatic escalators built into my contracts”

“we have agreements, we don't have contracts. We have three-year agreement that has an evergreen. But after you're in it, depending on the level you're on, but most of them, for most of my clients now, they're on a 30-day out”

Originality

12.0 / 20

Doug's contrarian stance on 30-day contracts and refusing automatic escalators is somewhat fresh for the MSP space, but most other advice (focus on top-line and bottom-line, networking over digital marketing, personal touch over automation) recycles well-worn MSP wisdom. His emphasis on responsibility and 'extreme ownership' is directly borrowed from Jocko Willink with no novel application. The core business insights lack counterintuitive depth.

“I don't have automatic escalators built into my contracts. Some people say that's crazy”

“we will fail doing this business right before I succeed doing it wrong”

Guest Caliber

15.5 / 20

Doug is a legitimate MSP operator with 16 years in business, $4M+ revenue, and real scale (two locations, seven technicians, low client churn). He's a practicing founder/CEO, not a consultant or speaker-for-hire. However, he's not extraordinarily prominent within the broader B2B or technology ecosystem - he's a solid regional MSP owner, not a standout entrepreneur with cross-industry significance or exceptional outcomes that would warrant the highest tier.

“I'm the president of CMI, uh CMIT Solutions, the Atlanta Southern Crescent area”

“we opened a second location three years ago”

Specificity & Evidence

15.0 / 20

Doug provides some concrete figures (started at $70K year-one, $300K year-two, $600K year-three, $1M at year five; two locations; seven technicians; nine client losses in 16 years; one account grown from 15 to 250 seats) but much of the episode relies on generalized philosophy and anecdotes. Hard numbers on metrics like profitability, utilization rates, CAC, or churn percentage are absent. Tech stack mentions (Caseya, Paul Dippell frameworks) are vague. Most operational advice lacks supporting data.

“70 grand in our first year, we did 300 in our second year, we did 600 in our third year, 700 in our fourth, and a million in our about halfway through our fifth year”

“I've lost nine clients in 16 years”

Conversational Craft

12.5 / 20

The host (Allison Felber) asks open-ended questions and allows Doug to speak at length, but rarely challenges, probes, or disagrees. She accepts claims like '30-day contracts improve customer service' and 'low employee turnover proves good culture' without asking for evidence or exploring trade-offs. Follow-ups are surface-level (e.g., 'what were other franchises?') and soft. The conversation reads more as a friendly interview than a rigorous inquiry into business mechanics or assumptions.

“Um, curious, what were some of the other franchises you were looking at?”

“Well, we talked, you know, a couple different times about, you know, you entering in, you know, to the IT space differently”

Standout episodes

  • My First Million Podcast Ep. 19 - Building A Profitable IT Business & Extreme Ownership With Doug Bates

    2025-11-11

    75
  • My First Million Podcast Ep 21 | Navigating the Hard Lessons While Building a Thriving MSP

    2026-03-11

    62

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

2 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • My First Million Podcast Ep 21 | Navigating the Hard Lessons While Building a Thriving MSP

    2026-03-11 · 42 min

    62 / 100
  • My First Million Podcast Ep. 19 - Building A Profitable IT Business & Extreme Ownership With Doug Bates

    2025-11-11 · 48 min

    75 / 100

Frequently asked

What is MSP Success Podcast's substance score?
MSP Success Podcast scores 68.5 out of 100 for substance and ranks #1727 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 72% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #265 of 922 in Startups & Founders. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is MSP Success Podcast worth listening to?
Yes - MSP Success Podcast outscores 72% of the B2B startups & founders podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a startups & founders operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts MSP Success Podcast?
MSP Success Podcast is hosted by MSP Success.
How often does MSP Success Podcast publish?
MSP Success Podcast publishes weekly, has 108 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-03-11.
Which MSP Success Podcast episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "My First Million Podcast Ep. 19 - Building A Profitable IT Business & Extreme Ownership With Doug Bates" (75/100) - a good place to start.

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Guests who've appeared

Oscar DiazDoug Bates

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SEOAI implementationGoogle ReviewsNiche specializationTechbound TechnologiesLaw enforcement verticalFirst nationsLegal software optimizationEvent marketing and industry speakingVendor relationshipsLegoCMIT SolutionsPaul DippelRobin RobbinsGE LightingTycoB2B managed servicesrecurring revenue model

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