
Hosted by The brand-building podcast by Stef Hamerlinck
★5.0on Apple Podcasts · 9 recent reviews
Discover the secrets of brand-building from world-renowned experts, and academics in marketing, branding & design together with your host Stef Hamerlinck. Let's talk branding is a no bs exploration of all things brand, known to cut through to the clutter and share unique perspectives. labmarcel.substack.com
172 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2025-11-05 · ~46 min/episode
Rank
#4355
Substance
55.0
/ 100
Breakdown
Scored 2026-07
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#4355 of 6203
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Top 70%
outscores 30% of the index
Let's talk branding ranks #4355 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 55.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on specificity & evidence and insight density. There are genuine data points - Ipsos 15% brand distinctiveness, System One score of 5.9 for Coca-Cola, 27,000 user-generated postcards, and an on-the-ground account of three humans over a few days for an AI ad - but several claims (40% video AI-generated, 220% cost increase) are presented without sourcing or attribution, weakening the evidentiary case.
Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.
The episode contains a handful of genuinely useful observations - characters/jingles outperforming logos as brand assets, the model-collapse risk for AI-trained-on-AI content, and the 'playable brand' framing - but is padded with obvious takes, mascot interruptions, and YouTube-comment anecdotes that dilute the signal-to-noise ratio considerably.
“the most recognizable assets is not your logo. I'm very sorry. It's actually characters, it's jingles and it's sonic devices”
“The same slice of reach you bought 20 years ago now holds less attention in someone's head and it costs you 220% more than a decade”
The 'sloppening' coinage and the 'playable brands / brand sandbox' framing are moderately fresh angles, but the backbone is recycled industry thinking - Binet & Field's long and short, uncanny valley, sea of sameness - assembled rather than synthesised into anything genuinely new.
“All these toxic ingredients lead to a cocktail and a sort of tipping point called the sloppening”
“my coach Alan, ah, Anna calls this the distributed brand era, where basically, um, you have less control over your brand and you let fans play around with it”
The speaker is a real practitioner - in-house brand lead at a funded healthtech, hands-on with AI production pipelines, and a working consultant on mascots - which gives credibility, but he is not a senior marketing executive at scale and the talk leans on personal brand positioning rather than hard-won strategic depth.
“during the daytime, I help build the brand at Allen globally. Um, Alan is a healthtech, uh, player”
“I've helped, uh, quite a few, uh, brands with either building or scaling their mascots, um, such as Dreamland, of course, Alan”
There are genuine data points - Ipsos 15% brand distinctiveness, System One score of 5.9 for Coca-Cola, 27,000 user-generated postcards, and an on-the-ground account of three humans over a few days for an AI ad - but several claims (40% video AI-generated, 220% cost increase) are presented without sourcing or attribution, weakening the evidentiary case.
“according to a study by Ipsos, only 15% of brands are truly distinctive”
“in system one testing that it's an exceptional, uh, score. So 5.9”
This is a solo keynote with no host, no interviewer, and no mechanism for pushback or follow-up questions; the only 'dialogue' is the speaker talking to a mascot prop. The rhetorical framing ('are we cooked or are we cooking?') is thin scaffolding, not genuine conversational craft.
“Sorry, sorry. Marcel. Marcel, stop. It's okay, it's okay. Sorry, sorry. I'm trying to. Oh, my God. Okay.”
“So my final question to you. Are we cooked or are we cooking?”
First period on the Index - history builds from here.
1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.
Regardless of your experience level around brand building - this is a must listen! Stef and his guests do an incredible job mapping out the critical capacities you need to build if you want to grow a brand successfully over the long haul in today’s quickly shifting marketing landscape. Highly recommend listening and subscribing!
- obacker19
Really love the format and flow, Stef seems so relaxed with the high quality guests, and asks really good follow ups. A fan!!
- SkinnyTallz
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