You Have to Learn to Follow First: How Humility, Mentorship, and Proximity Changed Everything (Part 3 of 7)

Episode notes

Before you can lead anyone - you have to learn to follow first. In Part 3 of 7 of the Leadership Sovereignty Podcast's Speaking Truth to Power series, Phillip McKibbins opens with one of the most powerful mentorship stories in the series. He shares how his mentor Wendy Ong - a force of nature in the entertainment industry - called him out in a meeting, challenged him to fix his organization in 30 days, and then spent the next several years teaching him how to show up in rooms most technologists never enter. Including her hair salon. Phillip also reveals that he is an introvert - and how Wendy taught him to hold a cranberry juice, make small talk, and build the proximity that eventually changed his entire career trajectory. He closes with the story of how Erin St. Marshall - the first Black woman CEO of a major sports franchise - interviewed him for the Dallas Mavericks role, and why who you are as a person matters more than what you know. In Part 4 the conversation takes an unexpected and deeply personal turn - a brain tumor, a divine encounter on the operating table, and a faith that carried him through it all.

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