79. Martina Fuchs - Anchor of CNN Money in Switzerland & Co-Founder of The Frequency School

Speaker A: Foreign.

Speaker B: Welcome to the Curiosity with Kristen podcast. Here you'll hear real conversations with everyday people making a difference, living their purpose, being parents, trying their best, and sharing their knowledge of life experiences, both professionally and personally. You'll also hear from executives about their companies and what cool things they're doing, plus how they're navigating their companies and their people. Forward. Each episode is unique and covers wide ranging topics that give my guests an opportunity to share what they've learned, are learning, and continue to learn. Of course, along with wisdom, hope, and some great stories too. I hope it gives you encouragement and strength to learn, grow and and be curious.

Speaker C: Today's guest is someone whose journey spans

Speaker D: continents, cultures and careers. Martina Fuchs is an international journalist, global business leader, and a humanitarian who has reported for Reuters, CNN and Chinese television while living and working across Europe, the Middle East, Asia and beyond. But this conversation goes far beyond journalism. Martina shares how a chance meeting led to the creation of the Frequency School, a nonprofit bringing music, sound frequencies and wellness education to underserved youth around the world. You'll hear about the groundbreaking work in India, where I met her, and we went and delivered this beautiful music program to a Tibetan, uh, boarding school. Their mission is to improve mental health through the healing power of music. The incredible Guinness World Record they set by uniting women from all 195 countries to say the word equality in their native languages. If you've ever wondered how one person can combine purpose, clarity, global impact and curiosity into a life of service, this episode will leave you inspired and perhaps thinking differently about the power of music connection and what it truly means to change the world. Enjoy.

Speaker C: Welcome to Curiosity with Kristen. I have Martina Fuchs. Wait. Okay. Oh, my gosh. Fuchs.

Speaker A: It's good. Whatever you say.

Speaker C: I want to say it again.

Speaker A: Folus.

Speaker C: Okay, I'm trying.

Speaker A: In your throat.

Speaker C: AKA Tina Fox, AKA Foxy. We'll go with that. Lots of wonderful names. Um, and I'm so excited you are calling from our future. Uh, 11 hours ahead in Dubai. And uh, we had an absolute pleasure. I had the pleasure to meet her in, uh, our trip to India recently. So we're newly back. Um, I am now, now better from the India I brought back home, um, unfortunately. But that was good. And um, I got a chance to meet you. Uh, right. Initially you were just this amazing pow like wow at the, uh, wonderful school, um, for the boarding school for the music program with kids. And I just was so excited to meet you and to talk with you. Um, so welcome Martina, AKA Tina, AKA

Speaker A: thank you so Much, Kristen. And I'm very excited to join you from Dubai. It's getting hot here. It's like 40 degrees, ah, Celsius already and we haven't even reached July yet. But um, we are cool indoors and I'm very uh, uh, blessed to join you on your podcast, Kristen and talk about everything, frequency, cultures and travels.

Speaker C: Wonderful. Well, I like to always start at the beginning. So, uh, Martina, as a little girl, uh, and you grew up in Switzerland.

Speaker A: Yes, that's correct.

Speaker C: Uh, and uh, your English, uh,

Speaker B: your

Speaker C: language is beautiful and I will definitely be talking about that because you have one heck of a story regarding languages, uh, and all of that. But as a little girl growing up, what was life like in Switzerland?

Speaker A: Uh, it was boring because as you may know, Switzerland is a landlocked country. We have one of the most stunning landscapes, four national languages, incredible snow mountains, lakes, forests. But I always felt very limited and to be honest it's quite narrow minded culture as well because we're in the heart of Europe, it's a population of 8 million. And even though we grow up in this uh, multicultural environment, I think the valley geography is quite a symbol of people still having this very organized, structured life. You get up at 6 or 7, um, you go to work. Then at 12, um, you go for lunch at 5 or 6, you go home. Shops close at 7pm um, nothing is open on Sundays. And when I was growing up I was like, wow, this is not me. I don't like routine. I want to be crazy. I want to be special. I just want to go out in the wide big world and discover every culture, every, you know, um, different, uh, country in the world. And um, I was really lucky because my parents, even though they are quite conservative, my dad was an architect and urban planner and my mom was a teacher for disabled children. They let me do everything I wanted. And my grandfather was a big role model for me. He was a businessman and was learning a lot of languages. He worked uh, in the uh, fashion industry. I was always inspired to learn languages. So, um, at school in Switzerland we have to learn one national language before studying English. So because I was born in Zurich, um, and spoke uh, German, Swiss, German already as a native tongue. I then learned uh, French and then English, um, at high uh, school. Right. And I went to a modern language college, um, where I studied Italian and Spanish and um, my best friend and first boyfriend were Portuguese. And then When I was 15, 16, I started learning Swahili because I fell in love with Africa. One summer I escaped the holiday, uh, summer House of my friend in Portugal and took the ferry to um, Morocco and called my parents, mom, dad, I'm in Africa. So I was always this rebel and ah, adventure seeker. And so at university I studied uh, international relations, um, Arabic and Portuguese at University of Geneva, like on the French side of the country. And then, um, did two internships, one the United nations and one at the Swiss embassy in Damascus in Syria. And both were very government oriented, very political, um, very slow. Also this you know, huge uh, administrative, uh, machine. And so I first um, interviewed as a spy. I saw this job advertisement in a Swiss newspaper and was like, wow, this sounds.07 very, you know, different and very exciting. Pass the test. They were looking for an Arabic speaker because it was the time of Osama bin Laden. And uh, so I passed the language test, um, you know, written in oral Arabic. But I failed the psychology test because the uh, army generals, they figured out, oh, she's too extrovert, she can't keep information. So I figured that, well, communication, um, is probably the way I should go. And so I continued my studies at the uh, American University in Cairo in Egypt, um, with uh, television journalism. And then Reuters, uh, the news agency hired me in London during the financial crisis. Um, I worked and lived there for a year and then they sent me to Dubai for the first time. So I worked and lived here in uh, the Gulf Arab region as a journalist for Reuters. And uh, then uh, I moved on to China because the Chinese uh, television, cctv, the state broadcaster, they offered me a job in Beij. And so I lived and worked in China for five years, which was really interesting. I learned so much about the culture and the language and the people. And then um, I worked for a few years at CNN in uh, Switzerland as a TV anchor. And recently I moved back to um, Dubai part time and still in London and Zurich. I just travel a lot as a global citizen and work at the intersection of music, media, journalism, consulting and just want to make a big impact around the world. But we'll get to that in a bit.

Speaker C: Unbelievable. It's like a wow story to be. What made you get. So you were a news anchor, you were on TV in China and in Switzerland. How long did you do that for?

Speaker A: I'm still doing it just a little bit less, um, because I work on so many different projects. But my career basically started in 2008. But it was always mix between TV in front of the camera, behind the camera, shooting, filming, editing. I worked as a business correspondent always. So I never touched any political issues because I want to stay away from politics and government. Really finding topics and stories that bring people together.

Speaker D: Right.

Speaker A: Rather than separate them. Right. I think the longest time I was in the TV studio was probably with uh, CNN in Switzerland. And now I just do maybe one or two interviews a month. Um, the Chinese, uh, television still, um, but I can pick and choose my own interviews and guests, um, and then film and edit them myself and send back to Beijing. But it's just part of what I'm doing right now.

Speaker C: And what got you interested or into uh, and I'll even. I can't wait to share this with my daughter who's just graduating UC Santa Cruz this weekend. But her um, major. Sorry, a little bug. Um, her, her major is literature and she's going into her master's in communications. And so I think, oh my gosh, I can't wait to share, um, this and, and there's a person that's in the communications department for the USC teleprompter on their, their news or something. And also it's sports related too, um, that she's getting connected with. And so, yeah, I would love to

Speaker A: talk to your daughter and maybe we can, you know, mentor each other because I really believe in reverse mentorship. Like we always think, think like oh yeah, the old people, they, you know, teach the younger ones. But eye and technology and everything, um, we always learn so much from the next generation. So I would love to uh, meet her maybe in Dubai one day soon.

Speaker C: Oh, that's good. Yes, that will happen for sure. Um, but so I, uh, mean, just amazing. How did you get into Journal or you know, in the news? Um, how cool is that?

Speaker A: Yes. So after graduation, uh, from the AUC in Cairo, I did apply for the Reuters trainee program. These were those one year programs offered by media companies, but also banks and other international corporations where you actually could spend, it's like an apprenticeship one year and then they at Reuters basically, uh, made you tour the newsroom. So, um, I could spend six weeks, uh, on the stock market desk, um, six weeks on tv, six weeks uh, on commodity. So, um, it was really interesting. Think it was like the best, um, school. Right. While learning the drill. And so after that they sent me to Dubai and start real work life. So this is basically how it all unfolded. But I always trusted the uh, inner instinct and voice and intuition, um, and always had this incredible drive to go out and do something. Like, I get very frustrated when people tell me they don't have a purpose in life or don't have a meaning. But I Believe, like, the meaning of life is to find your meaning and your purpose. Right.

Speaker D: Right.

Speaker A: If you just wait there, um, for things to happen, nothing ever will. And I really believe in the Nike slogan, Just do it.

Speaker C: Yes.

Speaker A: You can't fail if you don't try.

Speaker D: Right.

Speaker A: And life is just too short.

Speaker B: Right.

Speaker C: And it's interesting. Even, um, failure. I have this show. I'll take a picture and send it to you, but it's a, uh, big post it with all these things about failing each day and how important it is. And it's not looked at as failure. It's looked at as learning and growing. And what did you learn? And how does it pivot into the next thing that actually will lead you to where maybe you should be going? And.

Speaker A: And there is something, an opportunity in every challenge. Right. And I just see life as a glass full, not even half full. You know, we could always complain the whole day and just spread negative vibes and energy, but if you count all your blessings and wake up in the morning with gratitude, then everything is so different. And never compare yourself to, you know, the upper, um, part of the population, like how amazing these, uh, social media beauties and influencers and celebrities are. And I don't have it that well, but it can always be worse. I always compare myself to someone, um, struggling mentally or living in a war zone. And we have enough water, we have enough food. And also the simple fact of having a passport, you know, and being Swiss, having a Swiss passport, which allows me to travel to all. Every country, all the 195, including Syria and North Korea and Sudan and all over the world. It's just such an incredible privilege. And, uh, it goes also with a feeling of guilt almost. Why us? Uh, like, why are we so lucky? And this is also a driving force, like you. You. You must do something for the society, for humanity, for the next generation, because we are so, Just so lucky.

Speaker D: Right?

Speaker C: Agree. Agree. And it was when we were in. In India, in Dharamshala together, and I was, uh, talking with, uh, Tim. Well, to everyone's. Timson. Timson. Timson. Uh, and, uh, Palki the gal. Sweet, wonderful person. Oh, my gosh, she was so cute and adorable. And she. We were in, um, one of the little taxis together, her and I just talking. And it was so cute, you know, just some of the questions she was asking, like, tell me about Costco. It's all the kids, like, the stores and things that we have here.

Speaker B: But.

Speaker C: But she was taught, we were talking about, that she can't get a passport because she's not a citizen, um, because of, you know, just being born in Dharamshala, but a Tibetan as well. And so she's trying to get a passport, and India is making it tough. And you think, yeah.

Speaker A: And imagine this frustration because on social media you see everything. Nowadays, you can't hide it. I mean, uh, before Internet, you didn't really care, probably because you didn't know what, you know, the world looks like outside. But now that you could imagine what life could be like, it's just unbelievable. So we definitely have to help other people, um, to be able to live a better life.

Speaker C: Right, Exactly. And I'm gonna. Now that I'm gonna. I need to, uh, Tenzin, give her a text to touch base because I think that also she, uh, she was, you know, it hurt her a little bit because she pass the test. Although she was smart, you know, got a little scared. But, uh, but also there's the other side of that. It's like, well, now she has all of our support, and we're like, yes, get that passport and you come over and we're going to take you around, you know?

Speaker A: Yes.

Speaker C: You know, so we're encouraging her. So I'm like, oh, I'm going to text her to say, where are you at? What's going on? You know, she's got cheerleaders.

Speaker A: Yes, absolutely. And the network is so important and just showing people that they're not alone. And I always believe you are who, you know. Um, your contacts are more important than any money on your bank account. And also giving, yeah. People hope. Right. So the trip to Adharamshala and the launch of the, uh, Frequency School Impact Initiative and our music studio and wellness lab, thanks to you and, um, Dr. Nat compassion movie was just so heartwarming. And, um, we planted a beautiful seed. So now we just need to water it and make sure it can blossom. But also letting the children know that they're not alone and that their voice matters, and we will help them carry it out into the world.

Speaker C: Exactly. And so let's talk about that. So I know you, Bre. We've talked a little bit about it, but step us back a little bit on how did this Frequency School start? I know you were at an event, I believe, and, uh, got connected, but share with, uh, the audience.

Speaker A: So we founded the Frequency School two years ago because our team met at the Web Summit in Lisbon in, uh, November, uh, 2023. And then it was like love at first sight, um, on a different level because we all shared the same vision. Of bringing music and wellness mental health education around the world to help especially underserved young people and youth. So um, the founder and visionary is major. He is a uh US Grammy nominated, uh music producer, singer, songwriter, um multi platinum, has produced for Justin Bieber and Drake and Nicki Minaj and all the celebrities. But um, during his ah um journey with cancer he found out about the healing modalities of sound and different frequencies. So he started producing music um albums, um worked with National Geographic and Disney and Earth percent and United nations to carry those frequencies out into the world. And it is a known scientific fact now that these um healing frequencies like we work with uh 432Hz or 444, 528, they have a very positive um mental and physical health impact uh on our mind, body and spirit. You feel um, like there is a lot of universities and uh academia and clinics now um doing those scientific um experiments and research. Um they can now also treat um Alzheimer and dementia. There's a lot of uh work being done now um to research how they could even um modify cancer cells. So there's a lot of hope. Albert Einstein, um who actually comes from the same town as myself. Oh wow. Yeah, he went to school in a, where I grew up. He used to say the future of medicine is frequencies. So we really believe that we can achieve a lot um with them. And then we focused the first two years mostly on experiences that we offered to business, um, um um leaders, um to schools. Um we've uh done a lot of work with charities. We did events and workshops and clubs, classes offering sound experiences. We traveled to some 15 countries from China to Brazil, Morocco to the UK and Switzerland, um and uh then figured out wow, we need to do something that is really sustainable. Like not just from a charity, um point of view, but also from a business point of view to really scale this much bigger. So we're now working on a curriculum that will be in digital form that schools around the world, um first in English. English but then hopefully we can translate it into other languages can use mostly um, again like underprivileged schools, poor children, where we have 10 modules to teach them about sound and frequencies but also meditation and well being and mental health. And uh, we are also um designing different structures and sculptures that are like immersive art installations like bubbles or, or tunnels where people can in have like instead of a sauna, a sound path and light path. So these are kinetic uh structures. But most importantly um our impact initiative. This is what brought us together, uh Kristen and We aim to build music studios and wellness labs in poor areas. So we launched our first one in New Delhi, uh, in India and Dharmashala the second one where we find sponsors and donors for music equipment like uh, laptops also and software, instruments, monitors, keyboards. And then um, try to hire a music teacher uh, to yes, um, get them, you know, involved in daily music classes and that also serves as a wellness lab. And then we will bring the curriculum uh, online to them as well. So we have big plans uh, to um, raise money. We are in a big fundraising campaign right now to look for sponsors and donors because a music studio is not so expensive. It's like a few thousand dollars and it changes as you know, the life of children so much. Um, last year also we had a big news year um, in terms of raising awareness about the work that we do. We set a new Guinness World record, um, with the one nine five. So there are um, as we mentioned, 195 official UN uh countries in the world. And um, it was always my dream to produce the first song in the world is a real we are the World like bringing every country in the world together. So I was looking for one woman from every country to say the word equality in her native language. And then major used the 528Hz um frequency which is called the love frequency because it's very um, soothing and relaxing and beautiful and we use the sound of birds and the heartbeat of women. And so we set a Guinness World record. And then on 11 11, November 11 last year we launched uh, the World Frequency Day as a new international day with flagship um event uh in Dubai. And then our community and friends and just like minded people around the world started producing their own um, satellite activation. So we had like 30 events around the world and it went really viral. So from like 11:11am A global moment or 11:11pm it just went all around the world, all 24 time zones. Um, we produced a so 11 unity, um in 11:11 Hertz and it lasted 11, 11 minutes. And then this year um, we are going to have the flagship event in um, London. And uh, we are planning 100 satellite activations around the world. So these could be meditation sessions, sound bath, um, a concert workshop, um, anything anyone can contribute. We want to continue this global movement. And then for the first time we are going to launch the World Frequency Awards with a six categories. One category is going to be Youth Impact. One is going to be Scientific Breakthrough, another one Conscious Technology, Art for Humanity, City of Resonance and Wellness Initiative.

Speaker B: Oh my goodness.

Speaker A: We're now looking for sponsors who wanna um, like you know, sponsor a specific award or the whole day. So it's very important.

Speaker C: Unbelievable. It's so amazing. Uh, blows my mind. I, I, I didn't know until now all of this and I just was um, just you know, coming along with uh, Dr. Natalie on her uh, empathy, uh, you know, documentary, um, with the Dalai Lama. And um, you know, just it was compassion meeting you and then sort of after the fact I've learned all this and it's just what, what strikes me you, I mean from the get go I was like, who is this? I want to know her. And then I got to learn your 007 so different first. And I thought, oh, such a neat thing. I can't wait to get to know you more. But likewise, this is a beautiful, amazing thing. And it's, it's just um, it's amazing when it's um, uh, built in, in love, like how much comes from it and.

Speaker A: Exactly. And this is what we always said, like the intention needs to be very pure and money always comes, comes afterwards. The most important impact that we want to make is social. We want to bring people together, unite them, uplift humanity, make this big social impact around the world. And then of course we need money to um, sustain our business model as well. And we are um, now fundraising as I mentioned, but we believe that if you lead with a pure heart, everything will fall into place afterwards.

Speaker C: Absolutely. Don't know if you know, I'll throw this out just because of course being business and how much do you need to sustain. What type of sponsors are you looking for? Um, because I definitely know folks too and maybe I could make some connections.

Speaker A: That'll be wonderful. Kristen.

Speaker C: I have some ideas too that uh, you know, could be potential.

Speaker A: Anything is important. Um, so, so for example, for the World Frequency Award, like City of Resonance, it is maybe just US$5,000, um, but even small donations. We are now fundraising for the uh, November 11th World Frequency Day. And it can be very symbolic. It can be just $11.11.

Speaker C: How cute.

Speaker A: Or 111 or 1111. You know, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. Whatever you want to give, whatever you can give, it will be very much appreciated.

Speaker C: Okay. And I was even thinking like, you know, I, um, you know, know some people at large healthcare, um, organizations and I wonder about health and especially with people, you said with cancer and that um, are going through and, and having it at hospitals or um, you know, and having large, I mean it would be really great for our Big insurance companies in the US which are killing folks sometimes to, you know, give back maybe and. And do something. Because I could see that that could be such a wonderful thing. And. And it's so interesting. I. I just. I. I met Shay, uh, in. In, you know, Dharamshala, and. And we sort of toured together. And then I got to know him because I didn't know him. I sat next to him, we started talking, loved him, and getting to know, like, the whole sound thing and how, uh, Dr. Natalie, when she was with the monks and they were chanting, and all of a sudden just that it just released and she just bawled and she couldn't figure out why was she crying so much. And she's never, uh, had something like that. Emotional release and experience, like, so surreal. And then she researched when she got back, got connected with Shay, who's in San Diego. And then sort of, you know, then he ended up on this trip. Then he had us sit, um, us lad. He stood in a circle. He had us hooked up. And then, um, I think we were listening to a sound, but we didn't have to say anything. And then all of a sudden, I guess it was. He was waiting for some frequency tag like that we resonate our hearts and our bodies resonated with. And then it would cross over and at that cross was the point or the frequency. And then it created a music. Music, uh, reel for us that he actually. I think he just sent yesterday or today or something like that. Yeah. So. So I've learned from him and being around him for the 10 days, um, more about him, uh, and. And about what he said. And I haven't even. I thought, okay, when we were so busy in Dharamshala and I got sick. But so now I'm like, oh, I'm so interested because I. I didn't know about this. And. And he said it's proven where he's, uh, worked with large organizations and his dad's very, well, well, uh, renowned.

Speaker A: He is an authority. Absolutely. Yes.

Speaker B: Yes.

Speaker C: Yeah. And I didn't know that. And I still can't remember his name, but just. He's. He's actually, I think, looking to get his dad back to maybe Dharamshala in October for some launch or something like that. But. But just, uh, you know that he was saying that these companies were. If you got this frequency, and it was almost like a meditation kind of thing, but if you listened to it for X amount of minutes per day, that there was a drastic difference cognitive ability and stress level and health and um, so I. Yes, I remember just talking with him about that and what you're saying as well.

Speaker A: Yes, music definitely heals. And we believe that music is the universal language. As you found out. I speak a lot of languages, nine in total. But music is definitely, you know, the most important one. And, uh, it's just showing also that life is a lesson. Right. Like, we should always keep learning every day something new. Um, there is such a wealth of, yeah. Knowledge and wisdom out there. Even, you know, speaking of sound healing and frequencies, I mean, there is nothing new under the sun in ancient cultures in India and China and Egypt. Like the sound chambers they have at the pyramids in Cairo. All our ancestors, they already knew about this and we're just kind of recycling and doing second. Vintage shopping, you know, Vintage shopping.

Speaker C: I love it. Oh, that's. I have my first sound bath. I didn't even know what a sound bath was. And, uh, one of. I think it was our first full day after we had done quite a bit that day. And, um, so they said, okay, we're gonna hike up this hill and go up to this building. And, um, we're all laying down. It was perfect. I needed to rest. And, um, it was beautiful. Um, and, and you sort of. Honestly, I was, I was really exhausted and with the time change and things, I. I remembered it starting and it sounded so beautiful. And then I was out and I woke up again and listened to the end part and I thought, oh, shoot, I don't know if I missed things, but it was perfect.

Speaker A: Very individual. So some people just have a complete knockout. Some people are quite rational and calm, old. So there are different, um, you know, reactions that you have to that for sure. And then the different frequencies also have a different impact. But I believe that we are only starting to scratch the surface now. There's so much research and development that needs to be done. So it's exciting, right? Something is moving. It's like technology and AI. Um, if you can be involved in such new sciences and technologies and, and, and yeah, uh, learn something new every day. But at the same time, I, I Of course use ChatGPT and Claude and, And Google Translate and everything. But the human connection is something that no technology or app could ever replace. So I'm not like, regretting that I spent so many years studying languages because, uh, you only have this cognitive empathy and cultural understanding when you actually travel and, and speak to the people in their native tongue.

Speaker C: Oh, absolutely. And, and it's so. It's, uh, funny because. And even my daughter, who masters for the next two years when the AI thing is so hot right now in communications management, I feel like it's perfect. I keep telling her this is such a great thing because I think communicating and relating um, will never go away. And it's even more amplified because you want that connection. And um, you know AI AI is a great tool. It's just like when we went from uh, DOS to Windows back in the day. Except for there's a lot more that's going to, to be. It's going to amplify so much and it's just how we use that. Um, it can be used for good, bad, whatever. But you know, if it's used for good, it will amplify the good.

Speaker A: Exactly. We should just never rely on it. But use it as a support.

Speaker C: Exactly, exactly. Oh, that's wonderful. So what does success look like um, for you and also for the frequency school?

Speaker A: M. That's a great question, Kristen. It means to have a big global impact for under served children and youth so that we can help them in the best way possible with music, wellness, um, education and mental health and work with as many people as possible. So really building up this global movement, um, not for our ego or something but just to really unite um, people. And this is our vision and our big mission. Um, so that we can hopefully make the world a little better place.

Speaker C: Absolutely. It's interesting after Covid, right with mental health and stress and you know, so I find people jobs and I'm talking to all levels and um, um the last couple days I've had lots of big conversations with people who are just really stressed and there's a lot also with our after mostly the college age youth, um, I think my kids for the most part have been not, not affected um, as very much at all. But I do hear lots of my clients, kids in their 20s and you know, just that the mental health and stress um, has been so amplified. I don't know if you're seeing that around the world. And also so with um, sound and just um, not only the underserved because I think that that's really, really important. But just in general like um, high schools. High schools specifically. Right. I wonder.

Speaker A: Um, absolutely. We believe that mental health is the next biggest pandemic and people now start talking about it in the west and even sometimes a bit too much like sometimes we use it as an excuse.

Speaker C: Right. Yeah.

Speaker A: Y. Health issues. I need to take medical leave or something or they have. Yeah, yes, exactly. So uh, there are two sides of the coin but in other cultures like here in the Middle east or in China, it's still quite taboo. And also, um, taking therapy or, or medicine or anything like that is not really spoken about yet. It's also why in certain countries the suicide rate is still so high. Um, but we believe it's going to grow even more because, because people are lost with all these technologies. And um, also societies are falling apart, right? Like um, traditional family systems and marriages and, and, and relationships. They're so transactional now. You don't have loyalty anymore. You know, you meet someone, the next day you meet someone else. And um, I think there is such an identity crisis that people are facing around the world that is triggered by some of these, Some AI tools and, and, and, and you know, government decisions and geopolitical situations of course, as well, um, that we definitely have a big work to do here on this planet Earth. Right.

Speaker C: Well, and I know like social media has made a big impact unfortunately, and good and bad, you know, depending on if you're using it and then it can be very viral. And then of course the algorithms get to know you and, and so it's really science viral. Um, and if you don't, it's like

Speaker A: yin and yang, right? There's a bright side and dark side.

Speaker C: Right?

Speaker D: Right.

Speaker C: Yeah. And having that balance. And I think just having something like this go viral would be fantastic in the sense of, um. And it's funny, someone was also, uh. It wasn't related to this, but I think it's just someone said like, uh, first world problems or something like that. And I think, you know, um, because we, we are so, so fortunate for the life we get to live. I was reading this book called, uh, Open to Work. Uh, and uh, I actually read this, but I mostly keep listening to the audiobook, um, from LinkedIn and Microsoft. And it talks about the history of work and about how our cultures, um, before the Industrial Revolution, how. Um. You know, I think definitely we were um, very, uh. You know, there was. What was it? Um, but there was a lot of poverty and health issues and uh, there was a lot of struggle, of course. I mean, you know, um, back in the Gold rush days, I mean that, you know, there's. There was a lot of different things happening, especially even here in the US but um. But now, you know, after that, um, with having, uh, the ability to go to a place of work, have a routine, be able to, you know, have a home and food on the table and being able to, you know, um, support your family and have healthcare, like there's a lot of Positives too. And then it's just reflecting and not getting too carried away with all the other things that uh, you know, life can bring.

Speaker B: Yes.

Speaker C: But it was really interesting and it also really went into AI too, which was fascinating, um, in a good way of how we could really, really use our tools and help ourselves and um, you know, just being in job search and job placement.

Speaker A: Yes. Many of these problems are really first world problems because we are bored. We are seeking uh, a sense of purpose and meaning in life. Whereas when you're just trying to survive and fight for survival in war zones and um, you know, have famine and not enough water and food, you. You don't have time for a mental, uh, health meltdown and breakdown. Right. And there's no therapies as well. So, um, I really think that, yes, it's quite a vicious cycle that we have in, uh, Europe and US and other, you know, wealthy nations.

Speaker C: Yeah. What I did notice and bringing it back to Dharamshala is, um, you know, there, there we saw extreme poverty. Right. And uh, just different folk, uh, you know, all different things. Um, there, um. And you know those tiny. I still can't believe the tiny one way street with two cars going down, tons of mopeds and people all, ah, going. And it all worked, you know, but I was like, wow. And then the dogs and the monkeys and like, wow. But what I noticed and uh, the whole time I was there and also I can. Granted, I'm a guest and you know, it's new, so you're. Oh, what's this new thing? You know, so there's that too, but the sense of community and, and um, you just felt so included. Um, and uh, you know, love and just um, acceptance and it was. And of course, you know, compassion and we were with the Dalai Lama, the blessing and you know, just all the people, Carol Ann, just so many amazing, wonderful people. So it was just. I know it was a different experience, but I know on that Wednesday they all get together and dance in circle and uh, you know, just a peaceful protest kind of uh, celebration. And I just was like, everyone was so happy and you know, they're granted, you know, we only see one thing. And. And of course every, you know, everyone has their struggles, whatever it is. Um, but just to come together in a community and support each other and everyone had each other's back. It was just. It was really beautiful and it made me think a lot. Like when I came back here, um, and our, our streets here in suburbia where I live, I so am grateful and so appreciate. And, you know, you have to kind of. I. But. But it was very different. Like, you just walked out the door and you had a community, whereas here you kind of have to search it out a little bit more.

Speaker A: And people don't say good morning or good evening. We live in very egocentric societies. Right. And there is not a similar social structure or society. Families are also kind of breaking apart. And so it's very interest that in 2026, we still have so many beautiful cultural differences, and we have to respect that. And also the fact that we still have so many different languages, not just everybody speaking one. Right. Um, so we just need to appreciate this wealth of different cultures and try to meet as many people and travel to as many countries as possible and show respect and tolerance. And. And yeah, this is what life is about, after all.

Speaker C: Well, and you are an unbelievable inspiration. And I can't wait to share this with my daughter and my friends. And just how fun. Also just talking about we're on two opposite sides of the world.

Speaker A: Yes.

Speaker C: And it's as if we're just having coffee, hanging out, like, as if we're here in India.

Speaker A: Absolutely. Yes.

Speaker B: At the airport.

Speaker A: Beautiful thing. I know that next time, or very soon, I will be able to welcome you here in Dubai or I'll see you in the US So we can, you know, so we're lucky to be able to travel and see each other.

Speaker C: Absolutely. I can't wait. I definitely want to keep in touch. I can't wait to see you again in a couple weeks. And I would love to also share. How can people, if they want to learn more about the frequency school. I'm definitely going to ping companies. I'll definitely text you. Uh, I would love to help out with this because I really feel like music. You know, when we were sitting, um. Oh, gosh, this is so touching, but very big. It was such a big trip. I think it's kind of unreal, you know, catching up with me. But when I got the honor to be with you guys at that boarding school, unveiling this beautiful music program, that was amazing. Listening to the music that came up with is amazing. But then also going back down and being serenaded and served this beautiful tea and looking at all these adorable high schoolers sitting down in lines with their uniforms to listen to music, music that was universal. You didn't need to know their language. They didn't even know English. I mean, you know, they knew some English, but to listen to that, it was just beautiful to. And. And then the. The music Program teacher started singing all the US Songs. I started balling. My tears were just streaming down my face. It was just so. It was so beautiful.

Speaker A: But this is the meaning of life, right? Really coming together as one. Yes. And this is, uh, what we're all about. But to reach out, uh, they can follow the Frequency School on, um, Instagram, LinkedIn, YouTube. We also have a website. The email is learnrequency.school. and I'm managing all the social media accounts so people can just reach out dm, um, um, send messages and I'll get back, uh, to them as soon as possible.

Speaker B: Okay.

Speaker C: I'm going to post all of that. Thank you so much. I know it's getting late for you.

Speaker A: I have time anytime. Time. I'm not so Swiss, you know. So it was a huge pleasure and honor, Kristen, and I can't wait to build with you. Thank, uh, you for everything you do.

Speaker C: Me too. And thank you so much for all of what you've done and just your beautiful mind of what you've created with, with, uh, Major and the, the, uh, Guinness World record and the frequency 1111 and just all of the categories. I can't wait to learn more. I'm gonna have to. Is that all on your website, too?

Speaker A: That's all available. Um, and of course, I will share everything with you after our call as well.

Speaker C: Okay.

Speaker A: As I said, like, it doesn't matter if it's just $1 or $1,000. Any amount is welcome. And then I'll share the deck for the World Frequency Awards with you as well, where we look for sponsors for individual awards. So for example, um, if you have a friend who is very much into, um, use, then we have, uh, the Youth Impact Award where we hope to get $1,000. So it's, it's. And it's the first, you know, award, uh, that we launched. So it's quite important and for many people it's not a lot of money. Right. So, uh, I'll share this information with you right now and feel free to send it to, you know, other people in your network and friends.

Speaker C: Absolutely. I want to send it and I'll, uh, include it in the show notes so that people can link to and, and find out as much as they can.

Speaker A: If, um, you need any more info, just let me know. Anytime. Christmas. We're on WhatsApp, so. Perfect.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: At some point I would love to meet your daughter as well.

Speaker C: Um, she's moving back this week and Sunday. Uh, but next week. Yes, we'll, um, have. Let's have a let's have a coffee

Speaker A: anytime coffee, zoom meeting, whatever. And I'll speak to you in like, uh, two weeks. Yes.

Speaker C: Yay. I can't wait. Wonderful.

Speaker A: Thank you so much. Love, Kristen. Thank you for everything.

Speaker C: Yeah, thank you so, so much. Can't wait to see in a couple weeks. Okay, bye.

Speaker A: Happy Friday. Bye Bye. Bye bye bye.

Speaker B: Thank you for listening to Curiosity with Kristen. If you enjoyed today's episode, please subscribe and leave us a review. Review. You can find me on LinkedIn @Kristenravel. That's K R I s T e n r e v e l l m if you'd like to be a guest or have any questions for me, your feedback is essential and helps to improve the show. If you have any suggestions, comments or questions, feel free to email at. Ah, Kristen the Revelle group.com that's K R I S T E N at T-H-E R E V E-L-L G-R-O-U-P.com little long but it works.

Speaker C: Thank you so much.

Speaker B: Have a great day and stay curious.

Speaker A: Mhm.