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Breaking HR

Hosted by Nathan Toornstra and Jesse Cheetham

Join your hosts, Jesse Cheetham and Nathan Toornstra as they discuss (with guests) the unique challenges that organizations today face. They will dive deep into People, Culture and the issues that come with running a business.

19 episodes · publishes monthly · latest 2025-04-10 · ~31 min/episode

Rank

#5744

Substance

38.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

HR rank

#354 of 381

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Across the index

#5744 of 6182

Substance

Top 93%

outscores 7% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Breaking HR ranks #5744 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 38.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and conversational craft. Bonnie Thompson appears to be a working HR practitioner who has published a memoir, but her professional credentials, scale of work, and domain expertise are never established in the episode. She functions here primarily as a lifestyle anecdote-sharer rather than a senior HR or business operator with hard-won institutional knowledge.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

7.0 / 20

The episode is packed almost entirely with generic self-help platitudes (small habits daily, micro-learning, tracking with stickers, calendar blocking, turn off notifications) that any B2B operator would have encountered countless times. There are essentially zero novel, non-obvious professional insights across 35 minutes.

“what you do every day matters more than what you do once in a while. So it's small things daily”

“you have all these opportunities in your week to do micro learning. So that's something small daily to upscale versus a whole scale change where you take three days and devote yourself to example Excel training”

Originality

7.0 / 20

Every idea in the episode is recycled from mainstream self-help - Atomic Habits-style habit stacking, reward loops, micro-learning, compound interest as life metaphor. Nothing contrarian, first-principles, or even mildly counterintuitive is offered anywhere in the transcript.

“They say often it's like 21 days to build a habit. But the other part that they, they say a lot is, okay, you've got to put the habit in place of what it is, and then you've got to create the reward after”

“the way out is action, not thinking”

Guest Caliber

9.0 / 20

Bonnie Thompson appears to be a working HR practitioner who has published a memoir, but her professional credentials, scale of work, and domain expertise are never established in the episode. She functions here primarily as a lifestyle anecdote-sharer rather than a senior HR or business operator with hard-won institutional knowledge.

“I am HR I don't really talk about myself at work”

“I actually came from a really erratic childhood. Um, very erratic. Um, my father went through sexual reassignment”

Specificity & Evidence

7.0 / 20

The episode contains almost no business data, named case studies, metrics, or dollar figures relevant to a B2B operator. The only concrete numbers are trivial personal arithmetic (one page a day equals 365 pages) and an anecdotal product price ($200 standing desk).

“if I write one page a day and uh, in 365 days one year you could have that outline Draft of, um, a book”

“the hardest part was probably the first six to eight weeks, and then after that it was pretty autonomic”

Conversational Craft

8.0 / 20

The hosts are friendly and occasionally ask mild follow-ups, but questions are almost uniformly soft and affirmative. There is zero pushback on any claim, the conversation is frequently derailed by personal banter (toques, licorice, dad bods), and the hosts spend significant airtime talking about their own habits rather than drawing out the guest.

“Did you ever miss a day or did you ever write two pages in a day just because you, you felt good?”

“I feel mean now. I. You answered that way too well for how rude my comment was”

Standout episodes

  • Bonnie Thompson

    2025-04-10

    38

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 19 tracked in total.

  • Bonnie Thompson

    2025-04-10 · 35 min

    38 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Breaking HR's substance score?
Breaking HR scores 38.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #5744 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 7% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #354 of 381 in HR. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Breaking HR worth listening to?
Breaking HR is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 38.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts Breaking HR?
Breaking HR is hosted by Nathan Toornstra and Jesse Cheetham.
How often does Breaking HR publish?
Breaking HR publishes monthly, has 19 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2025-04-10.
Which Breaking HR episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Bonnie Thompson" (38/100) - a good place to start.

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AmazonYouTubeExcelBest BuyMotion GraySlackNespressoKeurig

Guests who've appeared

Bonnie Thompson

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Calendar blockingNotification managementMicro-learningGretchen Rubin habit philosophyHabit tracking with stickersStanding desksUnder-desk treadmillsMemoir writing ("Left")Compound interest applied to habitsReward systems for behavior change

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