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169 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-07-02 · ~34 min/episode
Rank
#5556
Substance
41.0
/ 100
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Scored 2026-07
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All Things MSP ranks #5556 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 41.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Libby McElhaney holds a genuine C-suite title (CPO) and Cynthia Schreiner is a senior community manager, so the titles are legitimate. However, neither guest delivers depth or practitioner-level detail commensurate with their seniority; both stay firmly in marketing-speak throughout.
Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.
The bulk of the runtime is consumed by personal chit-chat (steakhouse anecdote, complaining about the day), two sponsor reads, and generic AI/community platitudes in the interviews. The only substantive segment is the cold-open discussion on building an inventory reconciliation tool across multiple APIs, but it is brief and conversational rather than instructional.
“We pull in from Adigy Intune threat down, DNS, filter, entre and Watchmen as sources for devices, for computers. And then it tells you which ones they're in.”
“The reason I say persistent agent is that the tax based agents, you have to understand what task you're solving. A persistent agent, especially one like a chief of staff, it can just come in and add value almost immediately”
Every AI take in the interviews is a recycled industry talking point - AI as the new automation, persistent agents as an easy entry point, security guardrails matter. There is no contrarian or first-principles argument offered anywhere in the episode.
“it's a little bit like automation was five years ago, where we see a problem, a frustration or something we have to repeat. And now we're going to AI.”
“you've got to show up with the same kind of excitement that you would show up for with something big like this”
Libby McElhaney holds a genuine C-suite title (CPO) and Cynthia Schreiner is a senior community manager, so the titles are legitimate. However, neither guest delivers depth or practitioner-level detail commensurate with their seniority; both stay firmly in marketing-speak throughout.
“I'm Libby McElhaney. I'm PAX8's chief product officer.”
“my team is responsible for strategy and execution as well as design, making it look beautiful and work well”
The cold-open has useful specificity (named tools: Adigy, Intune, Halo, Meraki, Unifi; specific API gaps in Unifi Protect). The actual interviews with PAX8 guests contain almost no concrete numbers, named customer examples, revenue figures, or measurable outcomes - only one attendance figure surfaces.
“Unifi's new API only gives you site manager and network. It doesn't give you anything about protect.”
“we're talking, what, there's about 3,000 people here at PAX8 beyond”
Questions are almost entirely softball openers ('What does a product officer do?', 'How's your first year been?', 'Are there any other announcements you're excited about?') with zero follow-up or pushback. The host literally admits on camera mid-interview that he has forgotten the next question, signalling a complete lack of preparation.
“I'm going to cut it there because I forget what the next part we were going to talk about was.”
“What's the big thing for AI, for MSPs, how are we making money with it?”
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