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Willpower · 2019-02-10 · 56 min

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Key moments - from our scoring

Substance score

20 / 100

Five dimensions, 20 points each

Insight Density4 / 20
Originality5 / 20
Guest Caliber3 / 20
Specificity & Evidence3 / 20
Conversational Craft5 / 20

This episode centers on two key themes: personal growth philosophy and systemic critique. Speaker B argues that sustained curiosity acts as a snowball effect - momentum builds naturally when you enjoy what you're doing, and financial success follows. He challenges the cliché of "being better than yesterday" by reframing it as genuinely achievable through small daily improvements: earning a dollar more, being kinder, strengthening relationships. He positions himself differently from mainstream motivational figures by offering perspective from the ground up - learned through lived experience rather than formal education - and criticizes the motivational industry for gatekeeping knowledge to drive product sales. Speaker B contends that most institutional systems (legal, medical, educational) are deliberately designed to keep people uninformed so they remain controllable. He defends authenticity and ego-driven ambition as necessary fuel for breakthrough, referencing figures like 6ix9ine who weaponized attention. On capitalism, he's ambivalent - rejecting cutthroat exploitation but endorsing "good good" business that builds legacy. His ultimate fear isn't failure but being forgotten, aiming to be remembered thousands of years hence. This episode appeals to ambitious entrepreneurs and creators skeptical of institutional gatekeeping.

Key takeaways

  • →Curiosity acts as a self-perpetuating snowball - once sparked, it builds momentum and eventually attracts money and opportunity without forcing it.
  • →Daily incremental improvement - being slightly kinder, stronger, or wealthier - compounds over years in ways you can't perceive until you look back.
  • →Mainstream motivational speakers and systems deliberately withhold knowledge and promote dependency to protect market share and maintain power structures.
  • →Authenticity and unapologetic self-expression resonate more than false humility; vulnerability about ego and ambition attracts the right audience.
  • →True fulfillment comes from building something that outlasts you and being remembered for impact, not accumulating money.

Guests

Speaker B

Topics in this episode

Legacy BuildingDaily incremental improvementCuriosity-driven growthFree thought and independent thinkingMotivational industry critiqueSystemic gatekeeping (legal, medical, education)Authenticity versus manufactured personaEthical capitalism versus cutthroat businessTesla and electric vehiclesHuman worth and hourly wage

Questions this episode answers

How do you maintain momentum and motivation over long periods?

Momentum builds naturally through curiosity - once sparked, it becomes like a snowball rolling downhill. You stay hungry for knowledge, enjoy what you're doing, and money eventually follows without forcing it. The key is staying on a forward path daily without destructive habits.

Why do mainstream motivational speakers not help others in their field?

Speaker B observes that most established motivational figures protect their market share and don't lift up competitors, unlike how they may help people outside their industry. He attributes this to the motivational industry being fundamentally a business designed to keep followers dependent on their specific programs.

What systems are designed to keep people uninformed?

Speaker B argues that legal, medical, and educational systems - protected by codes of ethics like the bar association - deliberately restrict information access to maintain control. Lawyers, doctors, and educators operate under codes average citizens don't understand, which keeps people dependent on their services.

How does being authentic help you build a following?

Sharing your unique perspective from your lived experience - especially struggles you've overcome - resonates more than polished advice. People connect with genuine struggle-to-success stories more than manufactured motivation, and this authenticity naturally attracts an audience over time.

Is capitalism the problem or is it how it's practiced?

Speaker B isn't anti-capitalist but advocates for ethical capitalism - making money without ripping people off or exploiting labor. He calls this "good good" business and emphasizes building legacy and leaving an imprint rather than chasing profit alone.

What our scoring noted

Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.

Insight Density

4 / 20

The episode is dominated by motivational platitudes, repetitive affirmations, and meandering philosophical musings with almost no density of actionable or non-obvious ideas per minute. The rare functional insight - piggyback Amazon/eBay to fund passion projects - is stated briefly and never developed.

curiosity, once it's sparked, there's, it's unstoppable. M. It's like a, it's a, like a snowball
If you're one bit better, you're better as long as you look at it that way

Originality

5 / 20

Most content recycles standard self-help tropes (abundance mindset, follow your passion, aim for the stars). A handful of framings - the battery metaphor for attention-energy exchange, the Caduceus snake as a model for navigating polarity - are mildly novel but underdeveloped and not grounded in evidence.

I think each and every one of us are a battery. And the more attention we give each other, we charge each other more or less
you have to be a snake. Like, I'm not saying snake isn't a bad term, but if you look at the, the, the, the Caduceus

Guest Caliber

3 / 20

Speaker B is a small Instagram motivational creator who supplements income with Amazon/eBay reselling and rental property; he explicitly states he has no formal education or credentials in his domain. There is no evidence of operating a meaningful business at scale or any B2B-relevant expertise.

I don't know anything about motivational stuff. Um, I don't know anything about. I just knew that I sucked before
I didn't get any schooling, I didn't get any, you know, I learned from my own kind of way

Specificity & Evidence

3 / 20

The entire conversation is abstract and anecdotal, with almost no named metrics, company results, dollar figures, or timelines beyond vague self-references. The most specific claims are imprecise personal assertions rather than verifiable data.

I do have money where it's just like, I can do anything I want for now. You know, it'll sustain for the next five, six years
three hours every early morning, right? Like three, four hours every early morning

Conversational Craft

5 / 20

The 18-year-old host occasionally raises genuinely interesting philosophical topics (free will vs. determinism, anti-capitalism, systemic power) but executes poorly - rarely following up, frequently agreeing rather than probing, and allowing the guest to drift into long platitudinous monologues unchallenged.

Is there free will or, or uh, determinism? Right? Is that what you're asking?
So are you anti capitalist?

Conversation analysis

Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.

Share of words spoken

  • Speaker B87%
  • Speaker A13%

Most-used words

money59better29love28help24life24understand24feel23free22sometimes21didn19keep19world18saying16become15whole15inside15

Full transcript

56 min

Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.

Speaker A: Yeah. I've been following you, um, on Instagram for a while and you're one of the reasons why I started my website for real. So first of all, thank you for that.

Speaker B: No, thank you. You know, you telling me that gives me a good feeling, you know, and um, I'm, I'm proud of that, that you did that. I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything. You did that on your own. You know what I mean?

Speaker A: Yeah. But yeah, still, thank you so much because I do credit a lot to you.

Speaker B: Oh yeah. I'm doing my best I can and I'm glad that helped you. I'm glad I was able to help.

Speaker A: Mhm. But I really, I really started this website because I really do believe that. I mean, once you begin to start, um, I guess like opening uh, your eyes a little bit to um, kind of the deeper things.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: Um, I think that right there it just starts spiraling. Spiraling. But like, you need that beginning kind of. Curiosity.

Speaker B: You need that curiosity.

Speaker A: Exactly.

Speaker B: Yeah. The curiosity, once it's sparked, there's, it's unstoppable. M. It's like a, it's a, like a snowball. I made a video on this before. When a snowball rolls down, it just gets bigger and bigger and bigger and you're, you're so, so hungry for this like, knowledge that, that the curiosity leads it and then the momentum keeps it going and then money comes along with it because you enjoy it. Once you enjoy it, you just do it for fun and money comes in and, and I see that, um, what you're talking about right now is like you started and you kind of want more. You more and more. You want to reach out, reach out, out, reach out, you know, I mean.

Speaker A: Mhm.

Speaker B: And it's, it's only going to get bigger and sooner or later you can't say that within five years you won't be somewhere. You know, I mean, like, there's a lot of time between now and five years. I started this thing like three years ago and I, I cannot believe where I am at this moment. You know what I mean? And that's only three years ago. But imagine like in five years if you. It's just a speed run where when you look back it's like, oh, it's already been five years, but you don't know how far you got because every day is actually a lot of times.

Speaker A: Mhm. Yeah. Do you ever feel like you could actually, like in the moment, every single day, feel yourself growing?

Speaker B: Definitely. Well, the thing is this this is how I think of things, right? People say that's cliche to want to be better than yesterday. You know, they say, oh, it's cliche. Oh, that's, that's done. Goal. No, it's not. Because you really have to look at yourself as a person, right? If you're one bit better, you're better as long as you look at it that way and don't, don't, don't do things that are, um, detrimental to your life, then you're actually getting better. If you're a dollar more or a little bit kinder today, or you said I love you, mom a couple more times today, or you said I love you, Dad a couple more times today, or you were just a better friend, or you were just. You worked out a little bit longer couple, you know, I mean, any little improvement is an improvement. As long as you're not like, going out and destroying yourself and being like, oh, it's just another day. And then you're tired and you wake up late and, you know, those are all detrimental things. As long as you're on that forward path, you're doing good. That's not clich. Cliche. It's people that, that don't understand that any improvement is better than Michigan. But, but if you, if you keep on doing the same bad mistakes and things like that over and over and over, that's, that's what I'm talking about with it. Those people say it's appreciate, but.

Speaker A: Yeah, I think, I think, uh, important like, thing that we talk about on our website a lot is that like, I mean, if, if you're not growing, then, I mean, I, I think that, I mean, you gotta have some sort of idea of why you're here, uh, in this life.

Speaker B: Correct.

Speaker A: And so, I mean, if you're not being fulfilled in some way, and I don't mean in like an egotistical way, but if you're not being fulfilled by like, truly expressing, I mean, every single day and get engaging and getting better every single day, then it just kind of confuses me on why people continue.

Speaker B: Yes, I agree with that. Because, well, there's many views of life. I understand what you're trying to say here. Um, there's a lot of people that just live to live. You know what I mean? They live to exist and eat and, and kind of enjoy the little things. And, And I understand that, you know, I understand that.

Speaker A: But.

Speaker B: But I understand where you're coming from too, because that's where I'm at me. And you are kind of on the same boat here. Like, we want to grow, we want to get better. We want to be somebody. We want to at the end of our lives, to look back and be like, damn, I'm glad I'm me. You know? Know what I mean? I understand where that comes from, but I understand where people also want to, um, you know, just take it easy. And, and, and, and, and they let the life. They let, let like, the problems of life, this and that kind of just bring them down sometimes, and then they just don't want to rise out of it. You know what I mean? And that's fine. I understand that. Because they, they don't want a lot of pressure. But yeah, for people like, like, like. Well, like, I'm not to say people like. I'm just say for you and me, we kind of want these, like, big tasks. We've like, give me it. You know, I mean, like, I want to show everyone I can, I can destroy it. You know? I mean, like, there's, there's, there's certain different people in this world. And I came to understand that because I used to, I used to look at it that way also. And then I kind of said, you know what? Well, you have to focus on yourself because, because you're getting too, um, angry about things that don't even matter to you. People enjoy their lives that way. Let them enjoy their lives that way. Because if you don't, it's. If you're not fulfilled, will you have to fulfill yourself? You can't fulfill yourself by fulfilling them.

Speaker A: Yeah, I think, I think it's like, it's easy to become like, when you're constantly trying your hardest to improve it, it comes easier to judge people on how they live.

Speaker B: Yeah. And, you know, it's my fault too, because. Yeah, you talk about egotistical and all that stuff. Um. Yeah, I know that sometimes I'm a douche rag. I know. I understand that. But sometimes I cannot be myself. You know what I mean? I'd rather just be myself because in the end of the day, I know who I am. I know I have a good heart. And I don't mean it in that anyone needs help. I'm willing, more than willing to reach out help, you know? I mean, so it's not like I think I'm better. It's just like sometimes you feel good about yourself and why not share? You know, it doesn't. I mean, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, I feel it's fine. I feel like you should do whatever you want. To do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone and keep on improving. Because it's really important to keep your mind powerful. And sometimes when I hear people say, be humble, be humble, I understand that too. But humble doesn't get you somewhere sometimes. You know what I mean? Humble doesn't help you get, attract haters or attract like, people that say you suck or anything like that, you know, Because I want that, I want that kind of like, hey, you suck. Um, you this and that, you know, I mean, so it's like, hey, I'll show you. You know, don't ever.

Speaker A: Yeah. Because you feel like you can turn anything.

Speaker B: Definitely, Definitely. I'm not afraid of any, I am not afraid of anything. And when I say that, I fully, I fully mean it. Like I'm not afraid of the government. I'm not afraid of it. I'm not afraid of anything. Literally. I'm afraid of myself not achieving it, you know, I mean. Yeah, yeah. So then that's, that's where I come from. That area where egotistical. I, I understand it and I, if I see other people doing it, I like it. I like it. Because you know what? If they, if I want to call them, I can. And I know that I'll get some publicity or something out of that, you know, I mean, like six, nine. How he got so hot was because he wanted, he wanted drama, you know, I mean, and he keeps on bouncing drama. He kept on using that energy. Like when people talk about energy, play. This is what I'm talking about. He knows how to use his energy to just throw it on people and let them bounce back on, you know, I mean, and the media and, and that's, that's where he, he, he, he was really good at staying in the headlines, which helped him with sales and everything. And he just always did that. And once that's where, that's where I

Speaker A: think I, I, I, I get a little bit lost because I, I, I've been trying to for a while now, um, get, get a voice and kind of the areas that like, me and you talk about. Yeah, yeah, it's been kind of tough,

Speaker B: but yeah, this is a real, What I've learned about this whole thing was when I started, I don't know anything about motivational stuff. Um, I don't know anything about. I just knew that I sucked before. And I'm okay, I'm pretty good now. And I want to share what I know because my knowledge might be a little bit different from anything else out there, you know, because from my Perspective is really different. It's from like the. I didn't get any schooling, I didn't get any, you know, I learned from my own kind of way. So when I explained it in my way, it's kind of like you guys kind of get what I'm trying to say, right?

Speaker A: Yeah, 100%.

Speaker B: Yeah. So then, so I guess, like, that helps people a lot more because it's showing it from like the basics, like the bottom basics and what I feel, what I think and what I, what I, I, what, what I noticed helped me. So then when I shared it from that perspective, I felt, I saw that a lot of people like that. And right now, as of right now, you see, like, I'm trying to take my time to really re. Re. Transform myself into something where you'll see a lot more of me calling out the big guys, calling out. Because I came to the decision that this game, the motivation game, even though they talk about like, oh, hard work, this and that, and people will help us up with that, it's still a business, you know, this motivational is a business. And they do not want to pull you up and help you for free, you know, I mean, oh, yeah, you're going to take a part of their, their share and if you're also really good at what you do or you're really good at connecting with people or you do have a niche where, where you relate with more people or something like that, you know, or you're, you're, you're practicing, you're teaching, like, free thought and things like that. People generally don't like that, you know, People generally don't like you telling people they can think for free because you can't, they can't really take other people into their wing and make them buy stuff from them, you know, I mean, yeah, I'm a very, like, dangerous person into this whole thing, but I'm still gonna try to do. Because that's me, that's who I am, you know, And I really want people to have free thought. And if they like me, they like me. If they don't, they don't. If they want to buy my stuff, they buy my stuff. But I'm not gonna try to not tell people to have free thought so they buy my stuff, you know, like, buy my stuff. I'm good. Listen to me. I'm not gonna do that. I'm just saying you like me. You like me, don't you don't.

Speaker A: You know, I mean, yeah, that's what I see. Just so you just focus on your message and who you are.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: Everything else you feel will just fall into place.

Speaker B: Exactly. Yeah. Ah, 100.

Speaker A: You just being yourself.

Speaker B: Yeah. And then, and then I'm calling the big guys because really I, I see that, that what's. So what, what like if they're not practicing what they preach. But they do, they do do, they do do a lot. I learned a lot from them. But they, they're not open to really bring other people in the motivational game up. You know what I mean? Anyone out of their field. If you watch CL closely, all these other people, I'm not going to name names, but if you watch closely, they'll help other people that are not in the field, but they won't help the people in their field.

Speaker A: Mhm.

Speaker B: Yeah. So that's, that's where it comes, that's where I see. And then what you, what you said was like, it's kind of hard getting a voice. I guess it's more about just really look at who I think life is really about. Looking about looking at yourself and seeing what are my special skills? You know, what, what do I, what are the things I kind of like converted from, from bad to good, you know, and then shared from that perspective, from that point of view. Because you're super unique in that point of view. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm unique in my point of view. From that point when I, when I understood that all my pain was supposed to be shared, that's when I realized, hey, that's probably true because that I'm the only person that knew how to get out of it in my situation. You know, no one else is in your situation, but they might have similar situations where it's like, oh, that relates, that relates, that relates. You know, I mean.

Speaker A: Yeah, if you're just being real, then yeah.

Speaker B: Mhm. Yeah. So then yeah, I think that once you do that and just uh, um, do it in your way because I know that everyone's super unique, everyone's super interesting and I, I know, I noticed that it's only the people that are willing to share like go hardcore at it. That, that, that get a big, big like voice. I'm not, I'm not anywhere yet, but I'm sure within the next six months I have a plan to do something big. Yeah. I'm gonna call out every, every person and then it's just, why not? You know, m. I have nothing to lose. I'm not afraid of anything. And, and, and I, I actually defeated, you know, my court case. You know, I mean by myself as my own attorney.

Speaker A: Yeah. I've been watching all your stories.

Speaker B: That's just fascinating, weird like that. But I've been, I had to really, really think about this whole thing. You know, what do they want from me and what, they, what do they, um. Why, why? And then when I figured it all out and I discussed it with um, a few attorneys and then I didn't hire any new ones, I discussed it with the judge and everything. They're like, okay, that, you know, I understand the whole game now. It's, it's way different than what you think it is, but I can't really speak about it. So.

Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, well, I, I would like to actually go into a second, uh, for a second into uh, how you feel about uh, just the different systems like around us that are built around us.

Speaker B: Oh man, I think everything is caged around us for fear. Like, like I, I, I'm guaranteed, I'm telling you right now, it's so we don't get thinking free thought. Like every single system, if you look at even some motivational speakers and stuff like that, they, they don't want you to have free thought. You know, I mean, even though, even though, like they'll teach you some good things, they still want you to stick to one program. Buy my M class, buy my this, buy my that. You know, like, even with the, the law, anything out there, I understood everything out there. It traps you into a certain field where you can't, where they, they keep other information away from you. Kind of like um, a lawyer is protected by the bar, right? And the bar is a different code of ethics, right? Where we all, as US Citizens, we don't know what their ethics are in the bar, you know, it's protected by the bar. And if you want to have the bar license, you have to pass that exam and live by the bar. But that's their ethics. That's not normal ethics. You know what I mean? And let's say like doctors, they have their own ethics. Where, where, where, let's say if you're on the, the heart transplant surgery list or something like that, they, they, they can do it whichever they way they want. You know, if they don't want to take insurance or they don't want to take, they want cash payment or something. You know what I mean? Like there's all these little things that we don't know and it's like knowledge that we should know so we can get ourselves in better. Like when emergencies happen, stuff like that. We can get the help we need, you know what I mean? It's all these things we really need to know and the system keeps us dumb from it, so they can do whatever they want. Every. Yeah, every system has their own. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's what I realized about systems. They want to keep us not knowing.

Speaker A: Mhm.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: I mean if, I mean I, I talked about it before in a, ah, couple other podcasts, but I, I left. I left high school.

Speaker B: Oh, okay. Um, and I see nothing wrong with that. I mean if you know, if you know what you really want and you keep on going at it, there's sooner or later like it. High school and stuff doesn't really mean anything, you know, I mean, m. I

Speaker A: just felt like I, I wasn't learning any. I felt like if I actually went out and experienced real life, I would be getting a way better class inside four walls.

Speaker B: I don't want to say what's right, wrong, but I say that in my aspect, in my perspective life, I think you made the right choice because you're speaking about the right things. You're having podcasts you're actually doing. You're not out drinking and driving and hurting people and stuff like that, you know, I mean, you know, yeah, it's

Speaker A: one thing just leave high school and then do nothing.

Speaker B: Yeah. Your thought process right now is like new generational stuff. Like you guys are actually like thinking about things that can actually expand our consciousness and make humanity better. And I, I see that fully where it's just like more power to you, man. I like that.

Speaker A: Thank you. Um, do you think that eventually then my generation or the generations come after that are gonna. Because I see, see if I see an idea that people have where I mean, we're generation. Future generations are essentially going to build a utopia. Or do you think that there's always going to be systems that.

Speaker B: Personally, right now, as of what I know, as of what I know, like I can't speak about a lot of things that I know, but what I know is this. We, we as a civilization should be like traveling outer space and everything already. You know what I mean? Like we're pretty advanced to the point where everything's held back, you know, I mean like, like the electric car was the first car invented actually before the gas vehicle. Like.

Speaker A: Mhm.

Speaker B: And Tesla is just coming out like recently. It's just like why, you know, I mean.

Speaker A: Yeah, but I mean they hate him.

Speaker B: Yeah, he's held back and held back so they can make, they can milk as much money, the number one commodity in this world is human beings. It's not, it's not anything else. Human beings are worth more than anything in this world. But we, we go out and we work ourselves for like $10 an hour. Like our whole body, like the hydrogen and stuff in it, we like it's worth more than $10 an hour, you know what I mean?

Speaker A: Oh yeah.

Speaker B: Like the, just the body structure, the material, it's like we are worth more than that. But we don't understand that part. But other than that, what I'm saying is we should be traveling outer space. We should be doing a lot bigger, better things. But from what I know at this moment, um, there's a lot of people that are in the know on the other side that don't want it to happen. And it's going to be very difficult to get them to want to give that up. The power over the other half, you know? I mean, like, that's what I'm telling you. Like there's a lot more people that are in the know than you think.

Speaker A: Well, do you think that we. I mean, they only have power because of, uh, ignorance?

Speaker B: I think they only have power because. I wouldn't say ignorance, but it's just like there's a lot. The majority of people would rather, I would say laziness. There you go, laziness. Uh, because, because, because um, the, the lazy people, they don't really want to do anything, you know what I mean? Like, they don't want to, they don't want great to be great or have more than other things. Uh, this is mean way of saying it, but there's a lot more people that don't want to do, do things than people that do want to do things. And the people that are just like semi want to do things. That's good enough to enslave the other half, you know? I mean, because there's actually a lot of people that just want free things and, and want the government to take care of. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying that it's all well deserved and everything. But I'm just saying like, it's only because of that that we can't ever get ourselves to a higher sigil of like humanity because there has to be some sort of like, like um, divide. Because these people don't have to do anything, but they control these other half because these other half don't want to do anything at all. You know what I mean? And that's the reason why, that's the hardest part.

Speaker A: So are you anti capitalist? No, I'm not.

Speaker B: I, I actually like, see, I'm on the fence on this because I, I like capitalism in the right way. You know what I mean?

Speaker A: Like, if you like.

Speaker B: I, I like capitalism in the right way way though. I don't like, like cutthroat, like business. I don't like that. I know that we can make money without being like that, you know, I mean, there's always ways to make money without having to rip someone off or cheat them this way or, or sell bad things or enslave another country's people to make them work for you to do it. Yeah, I mean, there's always a better way. There's, there's the bad bad, the good bad, the bad good, and then the good good. I like to do good good. I want to do the good good and I want to, I'll leave. I want to do it my way and then the good good so other people do the good good, so it's better for our humanity because in the end, you want to leave an imprint. You want to leave a mark. You don't want the money alone. It's not good enough for me. It doesn't make me happy, you know, Like, I have money, but I noticed that the money doesn't truly make you happy. It's about what you do, how do you do it, and, and how you make more of it and how you expand that so you can just all leave it behind. Because it really, that's all that matters. What you can leave behind and what you build for yourself and what kind of person you are. Because you want to be, your name wants to be ringing through the, uh, eons of time, you know, you don't want your name to be forgotten. That's, that's one thing that. If I said I had fears, I lied. I have one fear. I'm afraid of just living my life to not be remembered at all. You know what I mean? I want to be where people know and Talk about me 3000 years down the line. That's what I'm assigned to. You know, it's a big goal, but

Speaker A: hey, I mean, people have shown it's 100% possible.

Speaker B: Yeah. And living, living with that kind of goal, you know, it actually keeps you always wanting something, you know, and it might not be attainable. It might be attainable, but aiming, they say aim, aim for the stars. Because if you miss, you still hit like something. I forgot how it goes, but that, yeah.

Speaker A: Yeah. I think it's like you'll still land on the moon?

Speaker B: Yeah, something like that.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: So. So my dream is like, yeah, like that. But I just don't want to be forgotten, you know?

Speaker A: M. Yeah, it's crazy sometimes to think about like how many millions of people in the past.

Speaker B: Yeah, like billions.

Speaker A: We don't even know their story or their names.

Speaker B: And that, that's one thing I thought about when I, when I lost my father a few. A few years ago. And it was like, I don't. I. Because I don't want him to be forgotten also. You know, I mean like it really, it really hurt me inside where it's like, well, you didn't get to show him what kind of man you were, you know, I mean, before he left. And the thing is, he might just be forgotten, you know, swept under the. A drug and it's just like, you must make yourself somebody. So people ask who was his father, who was his mother? You know, I mean.

Speaker A: Yeah, it's.

Speaker B: So you internalize them also. Like it's showing respect to your ancestors and everything. It's just like, like living for the biggest purpose of just giving yourself to do whatever you can do to help others. Because in the end of the day it's just feeling good about yourself and trying to give respect to your ancestors kind of. That's what I think. Yeah, that's what I personally think. M. Because if we look down below our feet, we have roots like, like a tree, right. We're like walking trees. Like if you think about it like under your foot there's like a root that comes down, that's your mother, father, and down more is their father's mother's. Like how deep rooted are we, you

Speaker A: know, I mean, spreading out, I mean from. To the beginning.

Speaker B: Yeah, there you go. So how deep are our roots and how. What do we represent up here? We're representing what we walk around as, as like representative of all those roots. That's mhm. How I see it.

Speaker A: Yeah. And. And then that's, I mean all leading up to, I mean, where we are at right now and what we can do with where we're at right now. And so Yeah, I completely 100 agree.

Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So when, when you ask that question or say that, that if um. Are we gonna ever move somewhere out of this kind of um, situation. I honestly, I hope so. So I have faith and I have faith that we do. Elon Musk has talked about this on multiple occasions about AI and things like that where he. It's just, it's harder to kind of say yes fully and be Confident about it because knowing of what else is out there, that's kind of, you know, the evil side. And there's always the evil side. There's always going to be people like that. And we have to understand that duality is, is real in this world and that there has to be the good with, ah, the bad. And maybe this is it, you know, I mean, I don't, I don't know. I hope it's not. I hope we do more. But as of right now on, um, from what I know, I feel like we're moving in a better direction because you guys. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: Okay.

Speaker A: Can I ask you a question that may be, um, a little bit deeper, but, um. Okay, so do you think that you, um, that basically, though, what you're going to do for this world and what the world is doing just in general, is already predetermined, determined, or is up to.

Speaker B: I love this question. Okay, so is there free will or, or uh, determinism? Right? Is that what you're asking?

Speaker A: Okay, yes.

Speaker B: Okay. Determinism. I believe in both. I believe it's fully about always both. Like these are the two polar opposites of each other, if you look at it. And if you think about, if you understand polarity, like good, bad, evil, um, uh, what you call it, Evil, good, hard, easy, eas. There's always going to be a polar opposite to one side, right? And I think free will and determinism are both, um, polar opposites. But what we need to understand is where do we stand on the middle line? You know, like, where do we stand on the middle line right between the two, like the borderline. We live m on the borderline. And what are you, what are we going to choose? Either people can choose determinism and let just whatever happened happen to them. And hey, that's just rolling with the punches. That's called just letting things happen, you know, I mean, and then free will is, is actually choosing and making these things. So, you know, kind of you become you, you harden yourself, you, you kind of crystallize yourself because that's the choice you'll make always. No matter what. You live by principle, you live by rules, you live by a. A set way where free will, you choose. And whatever happens to you, you know, I mean, if they're bad, if it's harder, good you choose. If it's this or that, you choose. And living that way, I've seen, gives rise to you as living that way will give rise to you in every way because you Always choose a hard path means you always rise. When you live in determinism, um, anything that happens to you, you don't learn from your lessons, you just let it happen, happen, happen, happen. And it's just like, that doesn't improve you folks. So what do I think there is. I think there's a balance of two, and you get to pick which one you want to do because everything's kind of already set out for you out there because you have a path, right? And the path you have is multiple. It's just like roots, like I spoke about earlier. There's any possibility, for every possibility that could happen in your life, it's already, it's already happened. It's already happened. But you get to pick and choose which way you want to go on those routes, you know?

Speaker A: Yeah, that's. That's exactly how I've always seen it.

Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I believe about reality and life itself. It's kind of like everything's already preset, but everything has to, to be your choice. Where you go do this, and then something, a new door opens in that area for you, you know, I mean, because every, every route has its own way of going. Now that I've given up this thing, this door over here onto the right won't open for me anymore because I didn't choose that path, you know, I mean, and, and it's already been open. It's already been preset, as in determined, but not determined, because you still have free choice.

Speaker A: I guess my question from there would be, do you think there's ever a time when you think about, should like, mimic nature, I guess, and go with the flow of what is happening?

Speaker B: Sometimes you do. I agree with that. Also, sometimes when you take it on, um, like some. You know what the weirdest thing is? Letting go sometimes because you do have to let go for things to come to you. Um, sometimes when you push with so much free will, you push with so much free will that at a certain point you do not have an option anymore.

Speaker A: Because, yeah, you get obsessed with control. When you push so hard with free will.

Speaker B: Yeah, you, you. You push yourself to a. I, I call it human and God side. Like polar opposites. Again, human and God said, like, when you push too, too much onto that, you're not letting God do his thing. You know what I mean? And you kind of push yourself into an area where, where nothing can be open for you because you keep on pushing. You keep on pushing. You need to let, let it flow into you sometimes. So letting go sometimes Just releasing it does help with more information, more anything. It. I think that we are a battery. We're literally a battery, right? Like um, I think each and every one of us are a battery. And the more attention we give each other, we charge each other more or less or whatever. People that don't do much, their batteries would drain and that's where it sits. But whatever they waste their energy on, those people get energy. That's how I see it. You know, I mean and, and what I'm saying is because we, we, we use our free will and push so much. We're like 100, 100, 100. We're not letting anything new come into us. You see what I'm talking about?

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: So that's what I see where letting go sometimes to just like release and then new stuff will come to us. Yeah, I believe in that also.

Speaker A: Mhm. Yeah. That's why um, the, the whole like uh, be water thing resonates with me so much.

Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Be like what, like Bruce Lee? Like just flow. Sometimes you do have to flow with whatever's going on. But, but it's not. You can't. Life is really weird. You have to be a snake. Like, I'm not saying snake isn't a bad term, but if you look at the, the, the, the Caduceus, the Hermes like Caduceus and the staff and like the snake that swivels in and out of like uh, s shape. Right. Um, you have to go from one side to the other over and over. Like free will, determinism, this and this. You have to be able to play both and sit like swivel up the balance of nature.

Speaker A: So then do you think that good. Well here's, that's always been the problem in my mind. Do you feel that um, good and evil will take the balance of polarity throughout eternal eternity?

Speaker B: I'll tell you this. Okay. I'll tell you this. Ultimately we, we cannot have one without the other. No matter what. Because the thing is this. Once everyone becomes good and we see the one guy that's bad, we're all going to be the bad guy to the good. We're all going to be the good guy to the bad guy. But the way of doing it, are we going to force them to doing what we want them to do or it can be an and kill them. You know what I mean? Like, what I'm trying to say is like when does, when does one become the other? When it hits the polar opposite. You know what I mean? Because now let's Say a small majority is evil. All of us are going to pressurize him into being good. Now we're evil. You know what I mean? So the thing is that we have to understand that polar opposites do have to exist and there's no way out of it. So learning to live with it and being the snake, just swiveling in and out and doing things so you can rise and do it and use your money. Because money people don't. A lot of people don't like money, but I truthfully feel like money is used in any way you want to use it. And you can be used in a good way or bad way. So money is important. Um, finding a way to rise without hurting anyone and doing the right thing and using that money to actually help, uh, make this place better. That there's nothing better than that. And it's learning how to be the snake, you know, swivel in and out and, and sometimes you do have to play with the bad guys, because the bad guys are. They're going to be there. They're going to be there. As long as you're doing business with them, doesn't have anything to do bad. Where you're giving them an opportunity to do some good. Why not? You know what I mean? Yeah. That's how I see it.

Speaker A: That, that's where, that's where I, I go back to school because. And one of the, also one of the reasons why I left because, um, if you, if you look at money, you can. I think the people who ultimately end up hating money are the people instead of, like, using it.

Speaker B: You are so correct. You're really smart for your age. Uh, like, like I was talking about, you're very, very intelligent. The people that say they don't care about money usually are the people that care the most about money.

Speaker A: The most controlled about with it.

Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, most controlled. Or think about. If you look, any person that says they don't like money, watch their daily, like, watch their daily actions. They always say, like, how much is that? Oh, how much is this? Oh, that's expensive. I could have got it there for cheaper. You know, they're always being thrifty and thinking that way. They're always being, saving, saving, saving savings in that way. They're not thinking of, um, more ways to expand their income or expand their mind or expand their, the abundance mindset, you know, I mean, yes, this, this, like the way I talk sometimes makes people kind of like, feel. Not like. I'm very blunt. You can see that, right? I'm very Blunt? Yeah, I don't. I don't like to waste time. I just want to be quick and easy to say it. Um. I don't to want. Mean to hurt anyone. I love everyone. And if people think that I'm a jerk. Whatever. Whatever. I really love you guys, and that's all I have to say. But people that don't care about money, they always are the ones that care so much about money, everything rules them. It controls their life. It's just like, how much. How much did you go here? Uh, no, that's. That's wasting money. You know, they're always thinking that scarcity mindset, like savings, savings, money, and it's kind of like that's all they think about. And that's how I used to be. That's how I used to be. Like, I. I totally was, like, that guy. I was that guy. But then when I changed, it was just like. It totally changed. When I changed, it totally changed.

Speaker A: Yeah. And so when did that. When did that start for you?

Speaker B: Like, three. Three. Three years and a couple months ago.

Speaker A: Was it gradual or pretty.

Speaker B: No, it was instant. It was like. I'll tell you the whole story of that day. It was actually like, one of the hardest moments of my life. It was actually kind of like the hardest. I don't know, it was kind of like I broke down at that moment, you know what I mean? And it was like me looking at myself in the mirror, and I was kind of like, dude, I'm ashamed of who I am. You know? I mean, I was like, I can't believe you've let yourself become this person that. That has done nothing. You know what I mean? And you can't. You didn't finish anything, and you didn't even go. And it's kind of like, why don't you just give up who you are? You know? Just give up and create a new person. Stand up inside yourself and show this world exactly who you actually truly are. Because you know what? Yeah, you suck right now, but doesn't mean you have to stop forever. Yeah, you suck right now, but doesn't mean you have to give up, you know? I mean, like, uh. That's the moment where all just like, I would say like, 80, 90% of my intelligence came from. It just all came to me.

Speaker A: And then that's where it starts, like, snowballing.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: Immediately.

Speaker B: Yeah. Like. Yeah, Everything clicked that day. This happened because of this. This happened. And it just flowed into my head where it's like, it's all your fault, Will. You gotta Step up and do. Do. Only do things that actually help you. Ignore everything else that doesn't help you.

Speaker A: One of the biggest things I realized is, I mean, the kind of people I kept around me, uh, when that

Speaker B: happened for me, well, I just ignored everyone. I just was on my own path, you know, I mean, like that I. You're right about your environment. That's 100%. I would say people around you do do a lot to inspire, Inspire you or bring you down. And. And the thing is, if you don't have an option, kind of you just have to really become your own option and create your options. I listen to motivational things every single morning, every single, uh, morning routine and everything. Those became my new friends. Those became who I talked to. I would hear them say, like, oh, you got a big. I'd be like, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, E.T. you know, stuff like that. I would talk to them into the speakers. But it was the only way I could lift myself to actually become better than who I was. Because at that moment, no one, no one really wanted to help me or they all looked at me as like, you know, the guy that couldn't do anything, you know, I mean, 0.25 could do, like. And it was like, you have to improve from somewhere. And it grew from there. And now I feel like I lifted myself out of that area where I feel way better than ever before in my whole life. And it's just like sometimes you have to do it by yourself and you can't wait on other people because if you wait on other people, sometimes they'll never do it also, you know, I mean, yeah, they'll never be able. But you found people to do it with you. More power to you. I, uh, like that you're 18. You're gonna. You're the change of, like, I feel. I feel truly like that our world is changing because of our younger people, not because of older people. Our older people are all stuck in their own kind of ways. And I think that's the younger crowd that really does help. And I see in your video games, see the games you guys play and stuff, it's more more generally, like more, you know, fun and like, just happy stuff. Just like mine, Minecraft and all that stuff. I see where it's like, it's just friendly building stuff where it's just kind of cool. I like that. Yeah, I see that.

Speaker A: Speaking of Minecraft, honestly, Minecraft, I feel like, is, uh, one of the greatest things that, like, kids have the ability to do. Because, I mean, your mind is just so open. Yeah.

Speaker B: You have again, you're somewhat creative again. You get free will to actually build or do whatever you want. Means you're not stuck in kind of like a. This is how you do this kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, but go ahead.

Speaker A: Oh, sorry. But, uh, when, like, you, when you kind of take a moment to take your, uh, like eyes away from the screen, I guess you can kind of realize that, I mean, this world kind of is like your sandbox, just like in Minecraft. I mean, you can kind of build anything you want just like that.

Speaker B: Literally. Like, like, what can't you do with all the money in the world? What can't you do? Tell me, what can't you do? Like, when people say that there's limitations. There is if you think that way. But if you had all the money in the world and you really wanted to build a ladder to the moon, who, who could stop you? Who can really stop you? Yeah, you know, I mean, like some, some weird things we think about. Like, who can really stop you from, from really implanting wings onto, um, your back and trying to fly? You know, who, who can stop you? You can, you can literally try it. Ruth said. I don't know if it's, it'll be successful, but you can try as many times as you want, you know, or you can even. What I'm saying is there's so many things that are possible, but you got to work hard to get the money to actually do it. So nothing's impossible until you say it's impossible.

Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, if you look at how many issue. I mean, once you. Money is kind of like the key to unlock pretty much any infinite, um, possibilities.

Speaker B: It's in this world a way of freedom. Yeah. And money is freedom. If you think about it, like, money allows you to do whatever you want. It gets you out of trouble. It literally does a lot for you. Like, if you see like certain people that are super billionaires, a lot of things don't happen to them because they have a way to get out of it. They can buy whole cities, they can buy whole situations that happen, you know, I mean, like, they can really stage whole situations happen to a single one person person out to make them, you know, not even know, not even know that something's happening to them. And the thing is being able to get there, money is, um, it's freedom. That's what, that's what how I see it. Yeah.

Speaker A: And I, I, I don't really despise money because I kind of look at it like it's, it's mental. Like if you're, if you're constantly leveling up mentally, then it will come to you.

Speaker B: You're right, because it comes to you. Literally it comes to you. It doesn't. You don't have to go out and make. It comes to you as a person. You are, you kind of attract it, you know, I mean.

Speaker A: Mhm.

Speaker B: When you become good at what you do, there's just opportunities that come towards you and it's just like, I see that you create money with your mind. It's all mental. You're right. Do you, do you study any like, principles or anything like that?

Speaker A: Um, you mean like, uh, Hermeticism?

Speaker B: Yeah, things.

Speaker A: Yes. Yeah, I'm really into Hermes messages.

Speaker B: Very important, I'll tell you that. That's the one most important things I've learned.

Speaker A: Yeah. Have you read the Cabal?

Speaker B: I, I, I've listened to that book maybe 300, 400 times.

Speaker A: Geez, I've read it maybe like two or three.

Speaker B: But yeah, the audiobook I've listened to at least 300, 400, 300, 400 times. Like, getting down to understanding that stuff is probably the most important things to learning how to control energy, controlling polar opposites and things like that. Becoming like more stoic. Everything ties in with that. I mean, it, it's, it's hard to understand it, but that's why I've listened to it 400 times and I'm still gonna keep on listening to it. Like sometimes I turn on one before I go to bed, you know, I mean, like, it's, it's important because every time you hear something, it's different the next time around. Because everything in this kind of life is kind of like the same and not the same.

Speaker A: It is.

Speaker B: And it's saying like, trying to get it all together to have that key that, that, that answer is, will help you throughout everything. And I realized that that kind of helped me with my core and all that stuff. Everything that's been flowing together now, now I'm ready to transform. How does a caterpillar turn into a butterfly? You know, like, how does that happen? And it's just like we can, we have to transform ourselves inside out and, and I feel like me defeating these things built more confidence and all stuff where I'm able to feel like, hey, I'm ready to take on the world bigger now. You know, I mean, like this whole social media thing at first was a thing for me to learn, but I didn't know it would Take like, I didn't know that a lot of people would like it. I didn't know that it would get, you know, some sort of traction. And I just did it because I liked it and I wanted to learn more. But now I'm ready to, like, actually, let's slow down on the other things and try to take this kind of character, person who I am, bigger than before.

Speaker A: And are you trying to turn this into a business or. I understand that it's about helping people and expressing, but I mean, are you looking at this being a profitable thing or.

Speaker B: Definitely. Well, the first. When I started out doing it, um, I wanted to do it because I want. I had so many. I want to help people. I wanted to actually get better because I. I came to a point where I couldn't learn anymore. There was nothing I could learn unless I stepped out and took a bigger leap out into the world and try to show myself so people can actually criticize me so I can get better. You know what I mean? And some of the criticize. Some of the things that people give back on feedback was like, I'm kind of a douchebag. But it's kind of like, okay, I don't care. I don't care about that, you know, I mean, like, I want to learn about something else. I want to know if my knowledge is wrong, you know, like, that's what I want to know. I don't care if you think I'm a douchebag, but I want to know if, like, I'm saying something that's like, like, oh, that's the wrong way of looking at it, or this. That. So then.

Speaker A: So, so you said that, like, eventually you. You'll get to a stage where the next step is to test everything.

Speaker B: As of right now, I've tested a lot, as in social media, as in knowing what people like or don't like, or what I have to do or what I don't do or how to get attention or not. So what I'm saying is, at first I started this not to make money, but I did have a general sense of wanting to make money out of it. Later on, I. I just knew that I had to have a transition trial stage to know that I have the, the will and the. The courage and the determination to actually do it. You know what I mean? Like, I needed to build that first step because you can't just be a superstar overnight. You have to know something about yourself where it leads you to become something else. So having this, like, under my belt, it's Kind of like, okay, well, you know, you did that. You know, you're not afraid of that. Like, what. What makes you stop, um, from doing this? What makes you stop and actually to try, trying to start doing a rap career? What stops you from trying to do this or that? Whatever it takes to actually make more, to actually be able to leave it all behind, you know what I mean? That's. So that's where. That's where I'm at right now, where it's kind of like, okay, I built this thing where it's kind of like if your voice or, um, word or mouth can make money, that's better than anything, right? Why sit there and actually have to do more hard work every day? If you can just talk and make money, if you can just sing and make money and you know what I mean? So then I was like, build that on the side while you're working on your things. Build the capital. Because one has to survive for the others to survive. You have to be able to fund this dream over here and actually make money over here. So do that. You've been doing that. You've been doing good on that. Just keep up with that every morning. And right now it's just like, I do have money where it's just like, I can do anything I want for now. You know, it'll sustain for the next five, six years, no problem. You know what I mean?

Speaker A: And all the things that you build,

Speaker B: start, yes, they start coming in. It's just adding up and adding up and adding. And it, it's just a few hours a day of keeping up with it. And it's, it's, it's feeding, it's not feeding me. It's helping me be able to do so much more with my life where I can actually take these big risks over here and not. Not care if they fail. You know, I mean, they're, they're literally free rolls because you already have something over here. It's about getting your time back. Because a lot of people waste eight hours a day working, and then they go home, they drive home, and then they have to make dinner, and then they sleep for the next day of work, right? Their whole day is gone. They have no time for working on their dreams. But the way I structured my life was like, I kind of built this thing up where it's like a few hours a day, three hours every early morning, right? Like three, four hours every early morning. And then the rest of the day I can work on my dreams, making social media, going on business meetings, creating More getting more like nail polish deals and things, I guess, things like that. You know, just having time to actually expand your palette. Because once you expand your palette, nothing. There's no, there's no room but growth. There's no room but growth as long as you're keeping up the anchor back here at home, you know what I mean? And yeah, It's a new 2019. You do not have to have so many employees and all this stuff. Amazon does everything for you, you know, I mean, Amazon ships and packs and does all this. They build, they buy, they advertise for you too. It's like kind of like if there's that option out there and Amazon's now a, uh, trillion dollar business, where's all the money going? Amazon. So why not piggyback off of them and do as well as you can and then while working on your dreams, because that's how I saw it. And it did work out to my favor and it's been working out to my favor. And I'm gonna keep at it because I'm gonna still keep on working on my dreams over here and try to make big money over this thing. On this thing. You know, I mean, this just, just

Speaker A: the Internet in general has opened up

Speaker B: so much you to understand also. The young crowd understands that the Internet is fortunate. You're more intelligent than a lot of people I know. Because a lot of people see it as. Oh, just. It's just the Internet. No, you can do a lot. Yeah.

Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I mean, it's, it's just like, it's just like money. You can use it as a tool

Speaker B: or you can either be a consumer or a producer. You can, you can consume and be that, the person that looks at ads and buy things, or you can be the person that puts out the ads. You can be the person that puts out the content. You can be the attention getter. You know what I mean? That's where the money. But you have to.

Speaker A: And I, I mean, just talking to kids at my age, it seems like, I mean there's, and there is people who understand it, but there's so many kids who also don't even know that side, um, or that it exists at all.

Speaker B: I was like that for a while. Because I was like that. It hasn't come to you. I guess it's only when you, you, you, you desire, you desire more for yourself. Like I see that in you.

Speaker A: Yeah. When you start designing it just over you, everything opens up.

Speaker B: So I see that from you. I see a deep desire of wanting to Know more wanting this morning, wanting knowledge, wanting Your, your hunger is truly there. And your hunger is gonna, your hunger is what makes you rise. And I see that, I see that in you. Where a lot of people might not have that. You know, some people are too dead and they're just. That's, that's, that's the maximum happiness that I would achieve because it's already there. But for our hunger, we're always looking for that little bit more, that little bit we can push ourselves more. And it's, that's, that's the rise that, you know, with that comes a lot of pain because, because we have to have some sort of suffering or pain or hard work for there to be more rise. And as long as you're ready for it and you have that deep desire, that's the thing that'll keep you pushing forever. Yeah.

Speaker A: Uh, um. And I'll tell you honestly, one of the, the biggest, um, uh, things that's being tested on me, I mean, daily, is patience. Because, I mean, this is, I've been trying to get this going for like a year and a half, trying out different things. And so, I mean, I, I, I'm able to. Kept the faith.

Speaker B: What is it?

Speaker A: Well, the business I'm working on right now, which is where this podcast is going on too. And then before that, I started a business, which I ended up quitting to work on this one because I, I just couldn't figure it out. I, I tried it for like a year and I couldn't figure it out.

Speaker B: The one thing, like, I, I don't, I do, like when I started my podcast and all this stuff, like my Instagram and stuff like that, I didn't want to sell anything on it yet, you know, I mean, and that's what I think. That's what actually kind of helped me also, because people m. Didn't see that I was hungry for the money, you know, I mean, because if I was advertising, oh, buy this, buy that for, for my page, I, I feel like I would lose a lot of, like, my credibility and all that stuff. It was kind of like me just doing it because I want to do it, and I'm sharing my knowledge, and this is what I am, who I am, what I am, you know, And I don't really care what you think, you know, that's what kind of came off as. And, and it was kind of like, you're kind of a douchebag, Will. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but you're still doing it. You're still doing it, you know? What I mean, and it was kind of like.

Speaker A: But there's so many people who appreciate the rawness.

Speaker B: And I'm. I'm blunt, but I don't. I don't mean it in a mean way. It's just. I don't like wasting time. But I have about 14 minutes left. So. Um.

Speaker A: Um.

Speaker B: Uh, what was that with your business and all stuff like that? Which one do you want more? Do you want more of the attention or more of the money? Because you can. You could focus on one and just. And do good on that one. If you want to make more sales and stuff like that, just focus on that part and getting kind of that mark. Getting. Getting your money right first before stepping out is better off because you need some structural foundation to feed you and get you on your feet before you can work on your dreams. For me, it took me a while. It took me maybe the first year and a half of these three years. First year and a half, just get everything up and running. You know what I mean? Like, and one thing, once things are up and running, things are getting better, getting better, getting better. And it was just kind of like stepping out from that. That's when I started sharing.

Speaker A: Yeah, I think. Well, the reason why I left my other business and came to this one is because this is actually something that I. I became super passionate about. And the other business, I was just doing it purely for money. And so I feel like this one is. No, it wasn't at all either. That's the. That's the other thing. But I. I felt like that one didn't have the capabilities of being profitable. Um, um. Like. Like this one can. Because this one. I think that I'm truly expressing myself and everything that I believe in. So I think that I've just always hold on to the idea that that right there will bring the prosperity.

Speaker B: And it's good enough to keep you hungry and believing on it, to keep on going at it. But there, there's something. There's like another. There's a third thing that needs to be. Be done. Like, there's all. Everything works in threes. And everything, everything, everything works in threes. That's the story of Adam, Eve and the snake and all that stuff, you know, like, everything has to be three because the triangle, all this stuff. Okay. Anyways, everything has to work in threes. I don't want to get too deep into that, but everything has to work in threes. If there's that part of you, uh, uh, the hunger and passion, desire and all this stuff, you're good. And then the, the business part where it's just. You believe in this business, there has to be a third thing that has to be done for. For that to become a complete, um, prosperous kind of thing, you know, I mean, and I guess it's more, um. More. Maybe it's more. More something. I. I can't really put my finger on it as of right now, but maybe, um, more episodes. Maybe get more. Maybe get more. Um. So right now, maybe content, looking for more money than. Than kind of. I. I don't think, um. I don't. I know that this is your passion. I know that you like this stuff. And I, I hear it in the way you ask and your questions. I love the questions you have. Um, determinism, free will and all that stuff. Thinking about the stuff that's such a young age, you know, you, you're way intelligent, you. When I was 18, man, you can't. I'm, uh, so embarrassed, like, when I talk back about it, you know what I was thinking about? Nothing. I was literally thinking about nothing. I, I had nothing on my mind. Every day I was living for no reason. So. So I really understand how it is like that. But you, for being 18 at this age, the questions you ask, things, you know, things you talk about. Genius, man, I, I see you somewhere in, you know, a few years, 21, 25, you'd be somewhere. But it's just keeping on that one thing. Get your money up. Uh, first get. Don't focus on your path. Like, get your money into a secure little ball first and then move on to the passions with it, you know? I mean, kind of build that foundation. Build that foundation of just making money any way possible. Because Oprah Winfrey said this, okay? You must do what you don't want to do until you have. Until you can do what you want to do, you know? I mean, like, you, you gotta just sometimes. And, And I know that Gary Vee and a lot of us, uh, a lot of us always say, follow your dreams, stuff like that, but it is follow your dreams once you have your money, Right?

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: And if you're doing it for the money, as right now in the passion, it's going to be tougher because. Because, because, uh, if you don't see a return yet, you might give up on it, and you might be giving up on your passion, which you won't return to later. But who says that's true? Right? You might return to it later, but. But really get to the money first. As of right now, to get your comfortable thing. Because if I didn't have that comfortable comfortability or the money coming in flowing from Amazon and ebay and, and my property, like all that stuff, right, If I didn't have my money right right there first, I would have never had the confidence to step out, do any of this stuff.

Speaker A: M. I mean, because at this point, if there's any in your life, like if there's any businesses that you started that you don't enjoy anymore, would you just leave them or would you continue to do them for the money?

Speaker B: That's tough right there. Because then I, I have this rule up on my life now. I have this like principle of my life. I probably won't even get into it if I don't plan on doing it forever. You know what I mean? What I'm saying is I'm not going to jump into something I don't know just because someone says I can make money off of it. I'm kind of be like, no, I'm gonna stick to things. I know it's not being unopened minded, it's kind of being like if you know you're not going to stay with it forever or at least have a plan to sell it off later on, then don't get into it at all. Because that's kind of setting yourself up for quitting. And once you quit one thing, you made your mind easier to quit another thing. It's like once it spirals downwards, it spirals downwards. Once it starts spiraling upwards, keep it spiraling upwards. Because if, if you're, if you're gonna have a beer today, you're gonna have probably a beer in a week and then you keep on drinking beers and then you have so many beers and then, you know, I mean like once you give up on yourself, it's kind of like, oh, it's just one. Oh, it's just one. Oh, it's just one. It spirals down to become more and more and more. Oh, just quitting one time it comes more, I can quit this, quit this. I'm gonna quit being vegan. I'm gonna quit know, I mean, I'll just stumble out of this kind of like state of mind and kind of not be who I am anymore. So I'm saying like, I will not give up on something I start, but I'm really, really kind of firm on when I start something. Like I look at it like that nowadays it's not about me quitting, but it's about me. Will I get into it if I know I'll Quit. You know what I mean?

Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker B: I'm picky on what I'll do, you know, mean. Yeah, so that makes sense to you on that part. You just kind of choose your path and be determined on it. Because if you're not determined on it, you know, you'll give up somewhere. You know what I mean?

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: So that's. That's how I answer that one.

Speaker A: Okay, that's great. Thank you so much. This has been really good.

Speaker B: All right, well, I have another eight minutes if you have more questions. If not, I gotta run out and get some surprise.

Speaker A: Yeah, okay. Um, well, I'll. I'll end with actually one more question for you. Um, and that is if you had three things for somebody to. Well, I'll put it like this.

Speaker B: Um.

Speaker A: Do you believe that it's important that everybody opens their mind? And if so, what's the beginning steps to opening your mind? Like, free thought.

Speaker B: Why love? I'll say love. Uh, like love more like. What I'm saying is the only reason why I'm the way I am, the only reason why I'm the way I am, the only reason why I. I wanted more, the only reason why I want to become better, the only reason for anything I do is because of love. I, like, a lot of people won't understand this or believe me when I say this, but it's fully love that. That pulls. It's not like love everybody. It's just love for everyone. It's just love for your mom and dad. It's love for your friends. It's love for yourself. It's love, love. It's literally you loving yourself to want more for yourself. You love your parents to want to internalize them. You loving your relationship, you want to do better so they can live a good life. You. You love. You love people so much that you want people to, you know, you want to do your best and sacrifice your life to become so something so you can help other people back. Because there's so much suffering in the world. You want to love so much from your heart that you want to just expand from the inside out, you know, I mean, like, you want your heart to explode this energy and give everyone so much love, because that's all you have. Ah. So when I say that, what will help us? Uh, I personally think it's love. I personally think loving from the deep core of your heart and letting it radiate from the inside out. Because once you start loving everything and appreciating everything about life, you start seeing how Everything ties together, you know, Everything ties together through love. And it's. That's what kind of made me change because I. When I was growing up, I didn't love nothing. I was kind of like this rebellious kind of, you know, F everything, F this, F that. This. This system's all. This thing's holding me down. This holds me until I said, you know what? I am not going to give that system any more power, you know, it's weaker than I step. It's under my foot. Everything's under me, you know, I mean, I must step out in front of this world and become someone that is not afraid of that anymore and become someone so I can make money to help the people I love and help the people around me and help. If I can help you more or. You know, there's a lot of people that aren't living as good as me. As much as I want to think it's terrible for me, there's people out there that are living in such horrible conditions. There's people that have gone to war and died. Their children have died, their sons have died, their brothers have died. Like, there's people that have lost their lives, you know, And I'm sitting here complaining about things. I cannot do that anymore. I must be a man and love from my heart, you know, and that's what really helped me.

Speaker A: And we, um. And I. I'd say that this has been. My main philosophy is that pretty much everything comes from the inside.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: First out, and then it's expressed outward, the inside.

Speaker B: Because when. Look, when people insult you, right. When people insult you, you feel bad on the inside, right? And it ruins your day, it ruins your whole week, so. Because they haven't strengthened and cord their inside yet, you know what I mean? But once you look inside, longer.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: Once you look on the inside, you fix that and you control and you know who you are and you become this kind of. No one can lie to you, no one can tell you.

Speaker A: So.

Speaker B: Yeah, no one can tell you anything. And it means anything because your insides are so, you know, crystallized. You're so strong on the inside where you control your outside nowadays. You know what I mean? So it is all but inside, outside world that controls the outside world. It truly is. Because it's one person that can actually make a whole stadium roar or boo. You know what I mean?

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: So the energy comes from the inside, not from outside. M. Yeah.

Speaker A: Okay. That. I think that's, uh, a perfect, like, ending state.

Speaker B: Yeah. So your. Your mind is so on the right path I have no doubt about it. It's just.

Speaker A: Thank you.

Speaker B: If there's something you knew where, if you had any words about, like, Norse, anything like that, and your business thing, I think people keep with it and keep on doing podcasts and stuff because you have good questions, you have very interesting conversation topics, and, um, good. You know, I like it. I enjoy it.

Speaker A: Thank you. Yeah. Thank you so much. And thank you for your time, because this has been great. Yeah, you're helping me.

Speaker B: I hope you like this, uh, podcast. I, I hope I didn't, um, overpower or be too, you know, I, I know that I am a little bit blunt, and I'm a little bit, you know, like that, but it's okay. I, I, you know, I hope. I hope you enjoyed it, and I hope I did, uh, well in your questions.

Speaker A: No, it's great. And yes, you did amazing.

Speaker B: Thank you. Thank you. Jackson. I record this also. See if I put it on mine.

Speaker A: Okay.

Speaker B: Okay.

Speaker A: All right. Yep. Thank you.

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