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Trending In Ed with Mike Palmer

Hosted by Palmer Media

At the intersection of learning, media, and the future of work, join us each week as we sense and discover where the future of education is heading.

746 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-06-23 · ~36 min/episode

Rank

#902

Substance

73.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

AI & Data rank

#95 of 495

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Across the index

#902 of 6183

Substance

Top 15%

outscores 85% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Trending In Ed with Mike Palmer ranks #902 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 73.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and originality. Beth Rudden has genuine senior practitioner credentials - IBM Chief Data Officer of a $34B division and a real product company with named enterprise clients - but the conversation gravitates toward storytelling and conceptual riffing rather than drawing out hard-won operational lessons at that scale.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

15.0 / 20

There are several genuinely non-obvious ideas - 'liability laundering' for human-in-the-loop, the two-paradoxes cognitive limit, teleological suspension of ethics, and the inversion of guardrails - but they're buried under long analogies, personal anecdotes, and conversational meandering that significantly dilutes the idea-per-minute rate.

“putting a human in the loop is liability laundering”

“human beings, we only have the capability of holding two paradoxes in our head at any given time”

Originality

16.0 / 20

A few framings are genuinely fresh - 'liability laundering,' 'teleological suspension of ethics,' the argument that AI fails at choosing rather than detecting, and the guardrail inversion (defining what the model CAN discuss rather than what it can't) - but these sit alongside recycled AI-discourse staples like RAG, hallucination, and agentic hype critique.

“instead of saying here's what you can't say, here's your guardrails, we say here's what you can talk about your knowledge base”

“AI is super good at pattern recognition... The Patterns that it chooses. It's the choosing that is intelligence”

Guest Caliber

17.0 / 20

Beth Rudden has genuine senior practitioner credentials - IBM Chief Data Officer of a $34B division and a real product company with named enterprise clients - but the conversation gravitates toward storytelling and conceptual riffing rather than drawing out hard-won operational lessons at that scale.

“I got to become the chief data officer of the managed services division. 34 billion dollar division ran around the world”

“we've gone in and done, um, some work with Craig Hospital, and they're a premier neurospine rehabilitation center”

Specificity & Evidence

13.0 / 20

A handful of concrete anchors exist - Craig Hospital named, 70% outpatient comprehension stat, 63,000 article views, Andrew Ng's five-or-six narratives claim - but business outcomes from Bast AI's deployments are never quantified, and most claims float at a conceptual level without supporting data or timelines.

“70% of people do not understand outpatient procedures”

“63,000 views, man. Like, it's a, it's a, it's a pretty good one”

Conversational Craft

12.0 / 20

The host frequently affirms rather than probes, shares his own anecdotes at length, and rarely challenges vague or sweeping claims; occasional 'if I'm hearing you right' synthesis attempts show engagement but there is no productive disagreement or sharp follow-up across the episode.

“Yeah, it's funny you mentioned linear algebra because I've had a few folks raise that to me”

“I certainly have. And the thing that's interesting to me is it has changed even the big models”

Standout episodes

  • Building Explainable AI with Beth Rudden - CEO at Bast AI

    2026-06-23

    73

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • Building Explainable AI with Beth Rudden - CEO at Bast AI

    2026-06-23 · 50 min

    73 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Trending In Ed with Mike Palmer's substance score?
Trending In Ed with Mike Palmer scores 73.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #902 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 85% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #95 of 495 in AI & Data. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Trending In Ed with Mike Palmer worth listening to?
Yes - Trending In Ed with Mike Palmer outscores 85% of the B2B ai & data podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a ai & data operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts Trending In Ed with Mike Palmer?
Trending In Ed with Mike Palmer is hosted by Palmer Media.
How often does Trending In Ed with Mike Palmer publish?
Trending In Ed with Mike Palmer publishes weekly, has 746 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-06-23.
Which Trending In Ed with Mike Palmer episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Building Explainable AI with Beth Rudden - CEO at Bast AI" (73/100) - a good place to start.

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Claude CodeMicroservices architectureRetrieval Augmented Generation (RAG)explainable AIBast AIKnowledge base designAgentic orchestrationHallucination preventionConversational assistive technology (CAT)Craig Hospital neurospine rehabilitation

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