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this is work

Hosted by Shelley Johnson

Join leadership coach Shelley Johnson as she talks with you about all things work! Formerly my millennial career.

282 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-06-28 · ~43 min/episode

Rank

#4989

Substance

48.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Leadership rank

#745 of 1041

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Across the index

#4989 of 6183

Substance

Top 81%

outscores 19% of the index

Why it scores where it does

this is work ranks #4989 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 48.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on insight density and originality. The episode surfaces a couple of genuinely useful framings - 'repair' as a neglected leadership skill and the entropy metaphor for team health - but the bulk of the runtime is coaching-question scaffolding, self-deprecating asides, and generic growth-mindset repackaging. For a B2B operator, the actionable insight per minute is low.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

11.0 / 20

The episode surfaces a couple of genuinely useful framings - 'repair' as a neglected leadership skill and the entropy metaphor for team health - but the bulk of the runtime is coaching-question scaffolding, self-deprecating asides, and generic growth-mindset repackaging. For a B2B operator, the actionable insight per minute is low.

“repair is the most underrated leadership skill”

“teams don't drift towards health, they drift towards toxicity”

Originality

10.0 / 20

The second-law-of-thermodynamics application to team dynamics is the freshest idea in the episode, but it's explicitly borrowed from an unnamed engineer and treated very shallowly; everything else - reinvent every three years, hyper-focus on one skill, pick up the phone - is standard HR and leadership fare with no contrarian edge.

“in a closed system, entropy or disorder increases over time”

“What got you to this level is not the same you that gets you to the next level”

Guest Caliber

8.0 / 20

This is a solo episode; the host is an HR consultant running a small advisory practice, which is a practitioner credential but not a scaled operator. The only referenced authorities are an unnamed CEO ('Tim') and an unnamed mechanical engineer, neither of whom appears or is identified.

“I run a HR consulting business called Boldside where I help leaders build epic team cultures”

“A CEO that I had the privilege of working for was the first person I'd ever heard talk about this”

Specificity & Evidence

9.0 / 20

Evidence is thin throughout: the CEO is unnamed, the engineer is unnamed, and the sole named company example (Optus) is used only to illustrate apology wording rather than to ground any claim with data. No metrics, revenue figures, team sizes, or outcomes are cited.

“I remember when Optus had that big, uh, ah, privacy breach and they sent out an email saying, Our sincere apologies”

“he would stay as a CEO for 10 years”

Conversational Craft

10.0 / 20

The solo format eliminates any possibility of follow-up or pushback, and the coaching questions posed to listeners are generic rather than sharp; the host frequently loses her thread mid-example and recovers with self-aware humor, which is endearing but signals insufficient preparation for a tight, high-density episode.

“Classic, classic. Uh, was working on your memory. That was the third skill.”

“I'm like, I'm so sorry, I'm just going to write notes as you speak”

Standout episodes

  • 825 reinventing yourself, avoiding career entropy & the conflict skill you need

    2026-06-28

    48

Rank over time

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Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • 825 reinventing yourself, avoiding career entropy & the conflict skill you need

    2026-06-28 · 31 min

    48 / 100

Frequently asked

What is this is work's substance score?
this is work scores 48.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #4989 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 19% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #745 of 1041 in Leadership. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is this is work worth listening to?
this is work is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 48.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts this is work?
this is work is hosted by Shelley Johnson.
How often does this is work publish?
this is work publishes weekly, has 282 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-06-28.
Which this is work episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "825 reinventing yourself, avoiding career entropy & the conflict skill you need" (48/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

BoldsideHeyGenBoost MobileSort your Career out and Make More Money

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Second law of thermodynamicsEntropy and disorderThree-year reinvention cycleLeading leadersSkill prioritization and developmentCareer momentumCoaching questions for self-reflectionTeam culture driftBoldside (HR consulting business)Public speaking skill development

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