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The Persistent Entrepreneur

Hosted by David I Hill

Welcome to The Persistent Entrepreneur Podcast, where grit meets inspiration. Join David Hill, two-time author, business coach, world-class sales trainer, top real estate broker, Ironman athlete, and 23 years sober, as he interviews relentless entrepreneurs, visionary business owners, and trailblazing leaders who've…

463 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-06-30 · ~41 min/episode

Rank

#5177

Substance

46.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Sales rank

#227 of 279

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Across the index

#5177 of 6183

Substance

Top 84%

outscores 16% of the index

Why it scores where it does

The Persistent Entrepreneur ranks #5177 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 46.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on insight density and guest caliber. The episode delivers a coherent but extremely introductory overview of DISC applied to real estate role assignment (D=listing agent, I=buyer's agent, S=admin), with a few marginally useful tactics like pre-sending spreadsheets to C-types and using open-house follow-up as a forced-awareness hook. The density is killed by sponsor reads, self-promotion breaks, rambling anecdotes, and a role-play that never gets deep enough to surface non-obvious technique.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

11.0 / 20

The episode delivers a coherent but extremely introductory overview of DISC applied to real estate role assignment (D=listing agent, I=buyer's agent, S=admin), with a few marginally useful tactics like pre-sending spreadsheets to C-types and using open-house follow-up as a forced-awareness hook. The density is killed by sponsor reads, self-promotion breaks, rambling anecdotes, and a role-play that never gets deep enough to surface non-obvious technique.

“if somebody's more on the D side, they would probably be more on, uh, the listing side of the business. They, they would be somebody that would be willing to make phone calls and, and handle rejection and keep moving.”

“the disc is it measures three. There's. There's three measurements. Number one is the. The how you show up... The second one is the real core person... And then here's how I see myself.”

Originality

8.0 / 20

There is zero contrarian or first-principles thinking here. DISC is a decades-old framework explained at surface level, the role assignments are textbook, and the episode closes with recycled John Maxwell platitudes. Nothing challenges the listener's existing model of the world.

“John just says, fail, fail fast and, and fell forward. Don't waste time.”

“success is uphill. The whole way uphill.”

Guest Caliber

9.0 / 20

Norman Hardman is a local real estate agent who functions as a student/interviewer rather than a practitioner sharing hard-won insight at scale; David Hill is a podcast host and coach who repeatedly plugs a $297 DISC assessment and a GoHighLevel affiliate deal mid-episode. Neither brings credentials or track record that would credibly validate the advice given.

“he's a top real estate agent in this area, absolutely crushing it.”

“I recently did an episode with Norman Hardman on disc and the disc is an absolute game changer. It's something I've been personally teaching over 20 years”

Specificity & Evidence

9.0 / 20

The episode is almost entirely anecdote and generality - no deal volumes, no team size data, no conversion rates, no named research behind DISC claims. The closest thing to a concrete example is a vague story about a ghosted listing appointment and a mock cold-call role-play that never names real numbers or outcomes.

“I sold the house next to you. I sold the house on the other side of you. I sold out down the street. This is how much I sold them for. What else do you need?”

“statistics show that there's a lot of proof behind this working and you can see it in statistics, you see it in people.”

Conversational Craft

9.0 / 20

Norman's questions are almost entirely setup softballs that exist to let David explain DISC basics, and the episode closes with two nakedly promotional questions ('how can people learn from you?' and 'favorite John Maxwell quote?'). There are no follow-ups that push back, no productive disagreement, and no attempt to stress-test any claim David makes.

“So within the realm of real estate, how can this be used as a tool?”

“David, all of these are things that you teach. How can, how can people that are watching learn from you and connect with you?”

Standout episodes

  • Using DISC to Grow Your Real Estate Business Norman Hardman #464

    2026-06-30

    46

Rank over time

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Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • Using DISC to Grow Your Real Estate Business Norman Hardman #464

    2026-06-30 · 39 min

    46 / 100

Frequently asked

What is The Persistent Entrepreneur's substance score?
The Persistent Entrepreneur scores 46.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #5177 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 16% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #227 of 279 in Sales. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is The Persistent Entrepreneur worth listening to?
The Persistent Entrepreneur is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 46.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts The Persistent Entrepreneur?
The Persistent Entrepreneur is hosted by David I Hill.
How often does The Persistent Entrepreneur publish?
The Persistent Entrepreneur publishes weekly, has 463 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-06-30.
Which The Persistent Entrepreneur episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Using DISC to Grow Your Real Estate Business Norman Hardman #464" (46/100) - a good place to start.

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