How to Build A Business Brand That Feels Like Home with Courtney Villapando
The Mind Your Time Podcast | Business Systems, Boundaries, and Calm · 2026-06-18 · 20 min
Substance score
29 / 100
Five dimensions, 20 points each
What our scoring noted
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
Insight Density
The episode is padded with affirmations, host monologues about her own SOP work, and repeated validations. The few substantive observations (the 3-5 year brand-misalignment window, the client who stopped sharing her website link) are mildly useful but buried under platitudes about authenticity and alignment.
I see it around the three to five year mark where your business is established, it's evolved.
I know I had one client come to me and she said, I've just stopped sending people the link to my website because I know it doesn't match where I am right now.
Originality
The core argument—that brand is deeper than visuals, authenticity beats trend-chasing, and misalignment creates friction—is thoroughly recycled branding orthodoxy. The 'brand as home' metaphor is the only modestly fresh framing, but it generates warmth rather than new insight.
For me, I know when I come home, it's my comfort space. I I put on my comfortable clothes, take off my makeup. I know I don't have to perform for anybody.
your brand is the way that people perceive you, kind of the reputation that you have.
Guest Caliber
Courtney is a genuine practitioner running a real brand and web design studio, not a career thought-leader, which earns baseline credit. However, there is no evidence of notable scale, named clients, industry recognition, or measurable outcomes from her work; she operates at a solopreneur-serving-solopreneurs level.
I am a brand and web designer, and I help high-achieving women who are experiencing that gap that you kind of talked about, where they've outgrown their brand.
I always design with your strategy in mind. So I'm not just gonna pick colors because they're on trend.
Specificity & Evidence
The episode contains almost no concrete data, named companies, pricing, or measurable outcomes. The sole specifics are a rough timing heuristic (3-5 year mark) and a single anonymised client anecdote; everything else is abstract and hand-waving.
I see it around the three to five year mark where your business is established, it's evolved.
I know I had one client come to me and she said, I've just stopped sending people the link to my website because I know it doesn't match where I am right now.
Conversational Craft
The host asks logically sequenced questions that move the conversation forward, but every question is a soft setup and none is followed up with a challenge or probe. The host frequently redirects to her own experiences and story, and there is zero productive disagreement or pressure applied to any claim.
Great. And speaking of visuals, like I know a lot of service providers think they're they're just pressure, like we have to be online
So before we wrap up, I have one question for you.
Conversation analysis
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Episode notes
Have you ever looked at your website, logo, or social media presence and thought, "This doesn't feel like me anymore?" If your business has grown but your brand no longer reflects who you are, this episode is for you. Today Shannon Baker sits down with a brand architect to explore the quiet signs you've outgrown your brand and why brand clarity is about so much more than colors, fonts, and logos. They discuss how to build a business brand that feels authentic, aligned, and sustainable as you evolve as a business owner. They also unpack the connection between personal values, business growth, brand alignment, and attracting the right clients. Whether you're considering a rebrand, questioning your messaging, or simply feeling disconnected from your current brand, this conversation will help you recognize the signs that it's time for a shift and understand why brand clarity is really leadership clarity.
Full transcript
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1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,479 SPEAKER_00: Have you ever looked at your website or your brand 2 00:00:02,479 --> 00:00:06,799 and thought, this doesn't quite feel like me anymore? 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,839 Well, in today's episode, I'm joined by a brand architect, and 4 00:00:11,839 --> 00:00:16,879 we're talking about the quiet signs that you've outgrown your 5 00:00:16,879 --> 00:00:20,000 brand and why building a business that feels like home 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,239 can help you show up with more confidence, clarity, and 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:24,960 alignment. 8 00:00:25,199 --> 00:00:27,120 Welcome to the My Your Time Podcast. 9 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:29,920 I'm Shannon Baker, your coffee loving host, business 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,679 strategist, and systems expert. 11 00:00:31,839 --> 00:00:35,200 And I guide consultants towards systems that protect their time 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,880 and elevate their expertise. 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,439 If you're ready to run a business that supports your life 14 00:00:39,439 --> 00:00:42,079 and not the other way around, you're in the right place. 15 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:45,439 Each episode shares grounded strategies rooted in my power 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,880 and motion framework to help you lead your client experience with 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,240 clarity and confidence. 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,240 So grab a cup of coffee or your favorite beverage and let's dive 19 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:54,560 in. 20 00:00:55,439 --> 00:00:57,119 Well, today I'm excited. 21 00:00:57,359 --> 00:01:00,880 This conversation is one that I've really been looking forward 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,519 to, and it grew from having a genuine conversation with this 23 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:07,040 amazing woman online. 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,280 I'm going to be chatting with Courtney Viapondo. 25 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:13,840 She is the founder of C Villa Design. 26 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:16,879 And Courtney and I actually connected on Instagram a few 27 00:01:16,879 --> 00:01:17,760 months ago. 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,799 We started chatting around something I was talking about at 29 00:01:20,799 --> 00:01:23,599 the time, which was the importance of pausing and 30 00:01:23,599 --> 00:01:26,400 resetting in your business, which means kind of taking a 31 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,560 step back, and that you have to realize that that's what you 32 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,200 need to do and be more intentional about the decisions 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,599 that you make because of what's coming next. 34 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,040 And then the conversation picked up on threads as well. 35 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,439 And we found ourselves talking about branding in a way that 36 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,680 really resonated with me because Courtney shared the idea that 37 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,120 your brand should feel like home, a place where you don't 38 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,120 have to perform to be seen. 39 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:56,719 And that immediately stood out to me because so many women 40 00:01:56,719 --> 00:01:58,319 build successful businesses. 41 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,159 But at some point they realize that their brand looks one way 42 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:05,519 on the outside, but it doesn't really reflect who they've 43 00:02:05,519 --> 00:02:06,000 become. 44 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:10,560 And I personally experienced this, invested money and someone 45 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,560 else created the brand for me, but it didn't fit. 46 00:02:14,719 --> 00:02:17,599 And it was because I didn't really understand what my brand 47 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:19,439 needed to feel and look like. 48 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:24,000 So I ended up having to incur that expense again and do a 49 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,240 total rebrand once I had the clarity that I really needed. 50 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,319 So today that's kind of what some of what we're going to talk 51 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:36,159 about and why so many service providers feel pressured to 52 00:02:36,159 --> 00:02:39,919 perform online, the difference between a brand that attracts 53 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,319 the right clients versus one that is kind of chasing after 54 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:47,039 their attention and how having brand clarity can make your 55 00:02:47,039 --> 00:02:50,960 marketing feel calmer, more natural, and more aligned. 56 00:02:51,199 --> 00:02:54,240 So, Courtney, welcome to the My Your Time podcast. 57 00:02:54,319 --> 00:02:56,560 I'm really glad to have this conversation. 58 00:02:56,719 --> 00:03:00,080 So I'm going to let you tell us a little bit about yourself and 59 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:00,960 what you do. 60 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,120 SPEAKER_01: Yes, thank you so much for having me. 61 00:03:03,199 --> 00:03:04,560 I'm excited as well. 62 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:09,120 So I am a brand and web designer, and I help 63 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,080 high-achieving women who are experiencing that gap that you 64 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,719 kind of talked about, where they've outgrown their brand. 65 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,960 Maybe the way they started out has evolved, and now they're 66 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,919 seeing that their brand no longer matches the level that 67 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:22,879 they're operating at. 68 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:27,280 So I help them walk through a brand transformation where we do 69 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,199 strategy, brand design, uh, web design, and we just make sure 70 00:03:31,199 --> 00:03:34,800 that their brand is cohesive from the foundation throughout 71 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:35,680 the visual. 72 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,000 SPEAKER_00: Great. 73 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,000 Now, one of the biggest reasons I wanted to have Courtney on is 74 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:47,439 because, as I mentioned before, we tend to build our business 75 00:03:47,439 --> 00:03:47,759 first. 76 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,599 And then we realize, oh, whoa, I'm a brand, but what I have 77 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:56,800 doesn't reflect what I've become or who I've become. 78 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:02,240 So what are you seeing right now with the women that either you 79 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,560 connect with or end up working with? 80 00:04:04,639 --> 00:04:05,599 Like where are they at? 81 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,039 What stage are they in? 82 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,719 SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so usually it's I see it around the three 83 00:04:10,719 --> 00:04:14,159 to five year mark where your business is established, it's 84 00:04:14,159 --> 00:04:14,639 evolved. 85 00:04:14,719 --> 00:04:19,199 You may even have um lots of clients coming in, but you have 86 00:04:19,199 --> 00:04:23,600 this gut feeling that the level you're operating at does not 87 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:24,879 match your brand. 88 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,319 And so that disconnect shows up in different ways in how you 89 00:04:28,319 --> 00:04:28,959 operate. 90 00:04:30,079 --> 00:04:33,519 SPEAKER_00: What would you say are some of the quiet signs that 91 00:04:33,519 --> 00:04:37,920 are there and really kind of ping that pain that you've 92 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,160 outgrown your brand, even if you um, as you mentioned, even if 93 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,680 the business is doing well. 94 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,800 SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so that shows up in different ways. 95 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:51,519 Um, a lot of times people are overexplaining themselves or 96 00:04:51,519 --> 00:04:53,839 they're putting out a post and they're second guessing, like, 97 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,079 is this really on brand, or am I just tracing trends? 98 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,279 Um, I know I had one client come to me and she said, I've just 99 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,800 stopped sending people the link to my website because I know it 100 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,360 doesn't match where I am right now. 101 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,040 So a lot of times two women will start tweaking the website, 102 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,879 trying to, you know, change the copy or change some images here 103 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:17,839 and there, but there's still this disconnect because the 104 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,839 foundation is what's lacking. 105 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:20,639 SPEAKER_00: Yep. 106 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:21,839 Been there. 107 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,639 It's like trying to make a two small pair of shoes fit. 108 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:27,839 Exactly. 109 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,120 Yes. 110 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,160 Now, one thing I know I have personally noticed is sometimes 111 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,600 people think that your brand is just your logo or it's your 112 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,480 colors, but I know it's deeper than that. 113 00:05:40,639 --> 00:05:45,040 So, how do you help someone recognize when they really need 114 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,920 to make an identity shift in their branding? 115 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:50,560 SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so a lot of times, like you said, they'll 116 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,399 think, oh, it's just the visuals. 117 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,879 But um when they are doing the tweaking and it's not helping, 118 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,120 they realize, oh, this is a deeper issue. 119 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,120 So I like to help them see that it starts with the foundation. 120 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,480 So a lot of times when they started out, they didn't really 121 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,240 do brand strategy, they just picked colors that they liked or 122 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,279 thought resignated, or they saw everyone else using these colors 123 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,319 and they picked that. 124 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,120 But branding really goes much deeper, like you said. 125 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,279 So um, your brand is the way that people perceive you, kind 126 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,439 of the reputation that you have. 127 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,040 So, in order to really build a brand, you have to start with 128 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,560 your values, your why, your mission, understand your 129 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,240 positioning in the market, and then once that's established, 130 00:06:34,399 --> 00:06:36,399 the visuals will follow that. 131 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,000 SPEAKER_00: Great. 132 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,000 And speaking of visuals, like I know a lot of service providers 133 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,360 think they're they're just pressure, like we have to be 134 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,439 online, we have to be active, and I say that in air quotes on 135 00:06:49,439 --> 00:06:50,399 social media. 136 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,759 What does performing in your brand actually look like? 137 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,560 Like, what does that mean to someone who's not familiar with 138 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:58,879 this? 139 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,079 SPEAKER_01: So it shows up in different ways for different 140 00:07:02,079 --> 00:07:02,319 people. 141 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,639 And I do believe as business owners, to a small degree we 142 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:09,920 perform in a way because you kind of have to put yourself out 143 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,800 of your comfort zone in a lot of ways in business. 144 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,199 But when you have this gut feeling that something is off, 145 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,759 like you're chasing trends on social media, um, you're using 146 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:25,439 audio or reels or doing things that are contrary to who you 147 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:27,519 really are, that's performing. 148 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:30,959 Um, also when you're over-explaining yourself, maybe 149 00:07:30,959 --> 00:07:34,800 you're on a call and you're just constantly trying to explain the 150 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,399 value of what you do. 151 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,680 If your brand is already aligned and the foundation is there, you 152 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,279 shouldn't have to overexplain yourself. 153 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,480 Your brand should do that work for you, and you don't feel like 154 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,480 you're having to constantly perform or this costume that's 155 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:49,920 not really who you are. 156 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:52,800 SPEAKER_00: Yes, and speaking of performing, so I know we 157 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,560 remember when Reels like first started, there was the whole 158 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,560 trend of dancing and entertaining, and unfortunately, 159 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:03,040 some people still do it. 160 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,600 So when someone chases trends like that, what does that do to 161 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,720 their brand, especially when it's already out of alignment? 162 00:08:11,439 --> 00:08:14,720 SPEAKER_01: It really undermines your brand, and then you can 163 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,639 lose trust because people are seeing it. 164 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:17,920 It doesn't feel authentic. 165 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:22,639 Your your audience realizes when something isn't true to you, you 166 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:24,560 can see it, you can feel it. 167 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:30,639 Um, so I think ultimately it becomes um something that takes 168 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:31,920 away that that trust. 169 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,639 When when you're authentic, people resonate. 170 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,600 But when you're forcing something, it can actually push 171 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,320 people away. 172 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,879 SPEAKER_00: And one thing I know we've touched on a little bit is 173 00:08:42,879 --> 00:08:44,720 what true brand clarity is. 174 00:08:44,799 --> 00:08:47,759 And as you mentioned, it's deeper than what it looks like. 175 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:53,039 It's more of does your brand reflect, as you mentioned, your 176 00:08:53,039 --> 00:08:53,919 values? 177 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,360 Is it aligned with how you want your business to operate? 178 00:08:57,519 --> 00:09:04,320 And I know once I achieve that clarity in my business, like it 179 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,399 made such a huge difference in the branding or the visual 180 00:09:08,399 --> 00:09:12,559 aspect of my business and how I show up online. 181 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:17,519 But from your end, how do you see or what transformation do 182 00:09:17,519 --> 00:09:21,039 you see with people as they get that clarity about working with 183 00:09:21,039 --> 00:09:21,360 you? 184 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:22,960 How do they feel? 185 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,799 Like, what do you notice shifts in their thinking and even 186 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,919 their, I guess, their emotions? 187 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,440 SPEAKER_01: One word that I hear all the time is confidence. 188 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,679 Just when they have a brand that's aligned and the visuals 189 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,480 match their values, their culture, all of that. 190 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,000 They feel more confident to be able to put themselves out there 191 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,519 in a way that's authentic. 192 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,440 Um, and it also gives them ease. 193 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,480 They're not constantly stressing out about is this on brand or am 194 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,159 I showing up the way I want to? 195 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,039 Once you have a foundation, you can show up authentically 196 00:09:57,039 --> 00:09:59,039 without having to second guess yourself. 197 00:10:00,399 --> 00:10:03,039 SPEAKER_00: And I always find it's amazing that no matter 198 00:10:03,039 --> 00:10:07,200 what, when you have that clarity, it just transforms in 199 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:11,840 so many layers of what we have to deal with as business owners. 200 00:10:11,919 --> 00:10:13,519 Um, you mentioned confidence. 201 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,879 I noticed the same thing in working with someone to get 202 00:10:16,879 --> 00:10:20,799 their back office organized and getting some basic systems in 203 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:21,120 place. 204 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,120 They just feel more confident in the way that they're operating. 205 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,559 Same as you mentioned when it comes to your messaging and in 206 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,320 your branding, when everything works together, you're able to 207 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,159 speak like so much more fluently and really communicate who you 208 00:10:36,159 --> 00:10:38,960 are, what you do, and what you stand for. 209 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:46,000 So this really helps everyone to see that this is it's not just a 210 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,200 piece of the puzzle, it's a major piece of the puzzle 211 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,039 because being an entrepreneur, it is literally like a 212 00:10:53,039 --> 00:10:54,799 10,000-piece puzzle. 213 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:56,080 It is. 214 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,759 That takes a while for the pieces to start clicking um into 215 00:11:01,759 --> 00:11:02,080 place. 216 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,679 Now, one of the things that I really love that you say is that 217 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,679 your brand should feel like home. 218 00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:10,320 Like I love that language so much. 219 00:11:10,639 --> 00:11:13,039 So, what does that actually mean? 220 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,720 SPEAKER_01: For me, I know when I come home, it's my comfort 221 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:19,039 space. 222 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,039 I I put on my comfortable clothes, take off my makeup. 223 00:11:23,279 --> 00:11:25,360 I know I don't have to perform for anybody. 224 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,639 It's a safe space. 225 00:11:26,879 --> 00:11:29,679 So when I say your brand like home, that's how it should be. 226 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:33,120 It should be a safe space where you don't feel like you have to 227 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,679 put something on that's not real, um, where your everything 228 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:42,879 is so all aligned that you can show up with that confidence. 229 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,360 And people will resonate with that. 230 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,960 They it affects the way you operate your business, um, and 231 00:11:49,039 --> 00:11:54,480 it just becomes a safe space that people feel confident in. 232 00:11:55,919 --> 00:11:58,799 SPEAKER_00: So tell us a little bit about your process. 233 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,240 Like someone comes to you and says, Courtney, okay, I've had 234 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:02,559 enough. 235 00:12:02,639 --> 00:12:05,759 I've been looking at, you know, what you do online, what you say 236 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:06,080 online. 237 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,000 Can you help me? 238 00:12:08,159 --> 00:12:10,159 Where do you start the process? 239 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,320 SPEAKER_01: Well, the first thing I do is really listen and 240 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,360 try to understand. 241 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,360 So I start with your story. 242 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:22,879 Um, we do a deep dive into your background, your culture, the 243 00:12:22,879 --> 00:12:27,200 different things that shape how you make decisions, um, your 244 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,759 patterns, you know, your the way you think and how that's going 245 00:12:31,759 --> 00:12:33,440 to show up in your brand. 246 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,440 So once we understand your story, your values, then we're 247 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,279 able to position you in a way that will help you attract those 248 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:42,480 aligned clients. 249 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:45,840 Um, so that is the foundation, that strategy. 250 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:50,159 And then once we have that in place, we can step into the 251 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:50,799 visuals. 252 00:12:51,039 --> 00:12:54,320 So I always design with your strategy in mind. 253 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,279 So I'm not just gonna pick colors because they're on trend. 254 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,440 No, we we there's the psychology behind the colors we choose, um, 255 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,879 the way we create the logo, the response that we choose. 256 00:13:05,039 --> 00:13:07,279 Um, and I do like to bring culture into it. 257 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,519 So I'll ask some of my clients like, what are the things in 258 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:16,000 your culture or your life that shift the way you think or you 259 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,039 know, inform the way you deal with clients? 260 00:13:19,279 --> 00:13:22,559 And sometimes they're surprised, like, oh, I didn't even think 261 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:23,440 about that. 262 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,440 But ultimately, your culture is your differentiator, so that 263 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:32,399 helps us to really shift your brand in a way that helps you 264 00:13:32,399 --> 00:13:32,720 stand. 265 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,919 Um, and then we're able to even pick out you know, subtle 266 00:13:37,919 --> 00:13:43,039 symbols or typography that reflects your culture as well. 267 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,360 Um, not in a cheesy way, but we do it subtly in a way that will 268 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,120 help you stand out as well. 269 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,440 Um, and then I make sure that my clients can walk away knowing, 270 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,000 okay, I have all my brand assets here. 271 00:13:56,159 --> 00:13:57,679 How do I use them now? 272 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,720 So I give them brand guidelines that explain exactly how they 273 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,720 can use these assets to keep their brand consistent across 274 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,159 all touch points. 275 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:09,039 SPEAKER_00: Great. 276 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,600 One, I love that you have a process. 277 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:16,639 And then two, that part about having the brand guidelines and 278 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:20,240 how to use all the assets is really, really important. 279 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,320 Um, because I've been at this long enough, like asking people 280 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,639 when I start working with them, you know, well, what's your 281 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:27,039 logo? 282 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,399 Because I want to put it on like their SLPs as we create covers 283 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:32,639 and different things for their business. 284 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,320 And they're like, oh, well, I don't know. 285 00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:35,120 Let me look for it. 286 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,000 Well, what font is, you know, the this wording? 287 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,200 I have no idea. 288 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,559 Okay, well, what are the text codes for your brand colors? 289 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:45,679 Oh, I don't know that either. 290 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,000 It's like, you do you not have a brand guide? 291 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:52,000 Nine times out of ten, unfortunately, they say no. 292 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:54,720 But I mean, that is really important. 293 00:14:55,039 --> 00:14:58,320 So for anyone that's listening that is a graphics person or 294 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,879 you're creating logos for people, please tell people how 295 00:15:00,879 --> 00:15:04,080 to use their stuff and give them the tools that they need. 296 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,279 We all have to, as service providers, we have to educate 297 00:15:07,279 --> 00:15:12,960 our clients how to continue to use the services that you know 298 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,799 they that we provide or to use what comes out of them working 299 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:17,200 with us. 300 00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:19,600 And I do the same thing with the SOPs. 301 00:15:19,759 --> 00:15:22,720 When I create them, I give you a video video that shows you in 302 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:23,279 the future. 303 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:25,840 So someone else, you can hand this to them and say, okay, 304 00:15:25,919 --> 00:15:26,639 well, watch this video. 305 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,360 It tells you how to use these different tools or things that 306 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,200 are part of my processes. 307 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:32,879 So I love that. 308 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,399 So before we wrap up, I have one question for you. 309 00:15:36,879 --> 00:15:41,360 For the woman listening who knows that she's evolved, but 310 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,200 she keeps putting her brand on the back burner. 311 00:15:45,519 --> 00:15:49,840 What would you want her to think about today to take action? 312 00:15:50,559 --> 00:15:54,480 SPEAKER_01: So like we talked about, your brand is the way 313 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:55,679 people perceive you. 314 00:15:55,759 --> 00:15:57,039 It's your reputation. 315 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,480 So if you're putting that on the back burner, are you really w 316 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,080 willing to risk your reputation as a business owner? 317 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,039 Um, so it's something that you shouldn't take lightly. 318 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,919 You really want to make sure that the that foundation is 319 00:16:09,919 --> 00:16:15,840 strong so that you're showing up the way that you really you're 320 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,440 showing up authentically in a way that will attract the right 321 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,320 people to you. 322 00:16:20,559 --> 00:16:25,200 Um so once your brand is fully aligned, like we talked about, 323 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,320 um it takes off all that pressure. 324 00:16:28,799 --> 00:16:31,679 Because when you're carrying the weight of a brand that no longer 325 00:16:31,679 --> 00:16:36,159 serves where you're operating at, there's a heaviness in in 326 00:16:36,159 --> 00:16:37,360 how you're operating. 327 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:41,919 Um, so it's so important to fix the foundation, and once that's 328 00:16:41,919 --> 00:16:45,360 in place, you'll feel that ease, you'll feel confident, and 329 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,279 you'll show up in the way that you can show up authentically. 330 00:16:49,519 --> 00:16:52,320 SPEAKER_00: Okay, that is actually great advice, Courtney. 331 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,960 So for someone who listens and they're like, okay, I kind of 332 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,200 think I'm ready to take this step, but I'm really not sure. 333 00:17:01,919 --> 00:17:07,440 Where can they start before they dive into the whole rebrand 334 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:08,079 process? 335 00:17:09,039 --> 00:17:12,880 SPEAKER_01: So a rebrand is a big step to take, of course, and 336 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,640 it's not something you want to take lightly. 337 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,960 So if you're not quite ready for that step, I do have um 338 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,559 something called the brand reflection kit, which is a way 339 00:17:22,559 --> 00:17:24,160 to see your brand more clearly. 340 00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:28,480 You can kind of see those gaps in your brand, and it will walk 341 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,160 you through some of the same strategy that I take my clients 342 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,319 through to start understanding more about their brand, their 343 00:17:36,319 --> 00:17:38,480 values, and the way they show up. 344 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:39,759 SPEAKER_00: Great. 345 00:17:39,839 --> 00:17:42,079 And I'm gonna put a link to that in the show notes. 346 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,759 It's a great way for you to kind of get a taste of what it will 347 00:17:45,759 --> 00:17:50,240 be like to work one-on-one with Courtney to redo your brand so 348 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,559 that it aligns with you 100%, so you can have that confidence 349 00:17:54,559 --> 00:17:59,359 when you are online and anywhere else that you're operating as a 350 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,559 business owner. 351 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:04,240 And where else can people connect with you online, 352 00:18:04,559 --> 00:18:09,039 especially if they know it's time for that shift, but they 353 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:12,319 want to gather a little bit more knowledge and get a better feel 354 00:18:12,319 --> 00:18:15,119 for who you are and what it's like to work with you? 355 00:18:15,759 --> 00:18:17,839 SPEAKER_01: So you can check out my website, um, 356 00:18:18,079 --> 00:18:20,160 cvilladesign.com. 357 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,839 I'm also on Instagram and threads. 358 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,359 Um, same name, C Villa Design. 359 00:18:27,599 --> 00:18:29,440 And I would love to connect. 360 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:30,799 SPEAKER_00: Great. 361 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:34,319 Well, thank you again, Courtney, for joining us today. 362 00:18:34,559 --> 00:18:38,640 I hope this has prompted everyone to take a look at your 363 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,200 existing brand and make sure it aligns. 364 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,799 When this episode goes live, it's actually a great time to 365 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:47,279 start taking a look at it because we're going to be really 366 00:18:47,279 --> 00:18:50,240 close to the slowing down season and of the summer. 367 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,920 That's a great time to look at not just your systems, but also 368 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,519 your brand and make sure they're aligned and functioning to 369 00:18:57,519 --> 00:18:59,680 support you in the way that you want. 370 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,480 So thank you again, Courtney. 371 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,359 And please make sure you all follow her online on Instagram 372 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:11,920 and Threads and grab that kit from her if you want to kind of 373 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,160 look at your brand on your own. 374 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,000 SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much. 375 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,160 SPEAKER_00: Thank you for tuning in today. 376 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:21,440 If this episode feels like a breath of fresh air, it's 377 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,759 because you're already craving a business that supports your 378 00:19:23,759 --> 00:19:25,759 life, not one that steals your time. 379 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,759 If you want help spotting what's quietly draining your time and 380 00:19:29,759 --> 00:19:33,279 energy, you can download the Backoffice Power Checklist at 381 00:19:33,279 --> 00:19:37,519 thshannonbaker.com forward slash checklist. 382 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,960 And if this conversation resonated with you, make sure 383 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,400 you're following the podcast on your favorite platform so you 384 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,759 don't miss what's next. 385 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,440 We'll keep breaking this down together one intentional step at 386 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,000 a time. 387 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,880 So until next time, keep calm and streamlined.