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On October 12, 1990, Oaktree Co-Chairman Howard Marks published his first memo to clients. In the decades since, he has periodically released memos reflecting his viewpoint on the investment landscape, as well as more general business insights.
77 episodes · publishes monthly · latest 2026-04-09 · ~37 min/episode
Rank
#252
Substance
71.6
/ 100
Breakdown
Scored 2026-08
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#252 of 1102
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Top 23%
outscores 77% of the index
The Memo by Howard Marks ranks #252 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 71.6 out of 100, scored across 5 recent episodes. It scores highest on specificity & evidence and insight density. The memo delivers strong specificity: named bankruptcies (First Brands, Tricolor), quantified software exposure by instrument tier, Oaktree's own AUM composition, historical interest rate data, and MSCI PE return figures - though some key data is attributed to 'Claude' (an AI query) rather than a primary source, and several market sizes are given as approximations.
Averaged across 5 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.
The memo packs genuine analytical density into its coverage of private credit mechanics, the structural concentration of software debt across instrument types, the risk/volatility distinction in private markets, and Oaktree's specific portfolio positioning - but loses points to lengthy historical recounting of well-known events (Milken, LBO origins, GFC) and repeated invocations of standard bubble-pattern frameworks.
“I insist strenuously that risk and volatility aren't the same thing. Direct loans embody no less credit risk than liquid credit instruments such as high yield bonds and broadly syndicated longs. It just isn't reflected as readily in prices.”
“the representation of software debt in the US Sub investment grade credit markets to roughly the following high yield bonds 4 to 5% broadly syndicated loans 10 to 15% direct lending 20 to 30%”
The risk-versus-volatility critique of private credit Sharpe ratios and the framing of AI disruption as a credit event (not just an equity one) are genuinely sharp and under-discussed; however, large portions recycle Marks' own prior memos (Sea Change, Race to the Bottom) and lean on canonical bubble texts (Kindleberger, Galbraith, Buffett aphorisms) rather than producing new first-principles analysis.
“They could reasonably have been expected to deliver high volatility adjusted returns. That's what shock ratios are. But I insist strenuously that risk and volatility aren't the same thing.”
“The disruptions in headlines are largely flow and sentiment driven rather than the result of credit deterioration.”
Howard Marks co-founded Oaktree Capital, began investing in credit in 1968, and was a direct participant in the development of the high yield bond market - he is among the most credentialed practitioners alive to narrate and analyze private credit's evolution, and the memo draws explicitly on 48 years of first-hand experience managing credit portfolios.
“we've been investors in high yield bonds and broadly syndicated loans since their inception decades ago”
“we've had defaults in our high yield bond portfolios nearly every year since I started the effort 48 years ago, just far fewer than most and far fewer than we're allowed for by the yield spread we were paid for bearing default risk.”
The memo delivers strong specificity: named bankruptcies (First Brands, Tricolor), quantified software exposure by instrument tier, Oaktree's own AUM composition, historical interest rate data, and MSCI PE return figures - though some key data is attributed to 'Claude' (an AI query) rather than a primary source, and several market sizes are given as approximations.
“According to Claude, MSCI estimates that between 2022 and Q3 2025, an index of US private equity funds saw annualized returns of 5.8% compared to 11.6% s and P500”
“two prominent bankruptcies, first Brands and Tricolor, caught credit investors by surprise in mid-2025. Both raised concerns about possible fraud”
This is a written memo read aloud by an AI voice with no host, no interviewee, no questions, and no dialogue - the format structurally eliminates all conversational craft; the only second voice in the entire episode delivers a thank-you and a legal disclaimer.
“Speaker B: Thank you for listening to the memo by Howard Marks.”
2026-04-09
2025-12-09
3 periods tracked.
5 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.
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