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The Joy of Procrastination

Hosted by Dean Jackson & Dan Sullivan

Join Dean Jackson & Dan Sullivan as they talk about the Joy of Procrastination.

98 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2020-10-01 · ~64 min/episode

Rank

#3834

Substance

57.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Leadership rank

#500 of 1041

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Across the index

#3834 of 6183

Substance

Top 62%

outscores 38% of the index

Why it scores where it does

The Joy of Procrastination ranks #3834 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 57.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and specificity & evidence. Speaker A is recognisably Dan Sullivan (Strategic Coach founder) and Speaker B appears to be Dean Jackson, both genuine practitioners with real business track records. However, the format is a loose private chat rather than a structured knowledge-extraction exercise, so their actual expertise is poorly showcased.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

10.0 / 20

The episode occasionally surfaces interesting conceptual reframes - Zoom as transportation vs. communication, humans transforming rather than processing information - but these are buried under extended filler: jokes about Canada's military, CHAZ commentary, sports speculation, logistics about sending PDFs, and long personal anecdotes about Ella Fitzgerald and colorized WWI footage. The signal-to-noise ratio across 67 minutes is very poor.

“humans don't process information. We transform information”

“I mean, uh, uh. Anyway. But, uh, anyway. But it just seems to me that this is holding on to old things”

Originality

12.0 / 20

There are a handful of genuinely interesting framings - Zoom as a transportation system with 'virtual real estate' along the tracks, the inequality/unequality distinction (unfairness vs. uniqueness), and humans as information transformers rather than processors - but none are developed with rigor or taken to a useful conclusion; they surface and disappear.

“inequality means that there's massive amount of unfairness, and unequality means there's massive amount of uniqueness”

“Zoom as a transportation system. But what's really interesting, what's happening in the territory next to the tracks”

Guest Caliber

14.0 / 20

Speaker A is recognisably Dan Sullivan (Strategic Coach founder) and Speaker B appears to be Dean Jackson, both genuine practitioners with real business track records. However, the format is a loose private chat rather than a structured knowledge-extraction exercise, so their actual expertise is poorly showcased.

“I've now done eight six hour workshops, you know. And uh. And I've kind of got it down where I, I'm not worried about the structure or anything else.”

“25 years of thinking will immediately arrive at the scene when you see what I've done with this”

Specificity & Evidence

13.0 / 20

The Lodestone/David Riling case study is the strongest passage - real names, real numbers, a specific use case with PPP loan context - and provides more concrete detail than most conversational B2B podcasts manage. Outside of that segment, evidence is largely anecdotal or hand-waved.

“David had uh, distributed 1500 loans... he put out to 1500, 1200 said they'd like to come. 800 showed up. But it was interesting. 800 showed up in 800 stayed. Not a person left during the hour.”

“So far we've got one free uh, zone client who's used it to great effect. And that was David Riling, if you'll remember, he's got the community banks in Minneapolis.”

Conversational Craft

8.0 / 20

This is two friends rambling with essentially zero host craft - no sharpening questions, no pushback, no follow-through when an idea is raised. Speaker B's responses are almost entirely affirmative ('I love it,' 'yeah,' 'wow') and the conversation lurches between unrelated topics with no editorial control.

“B: Wow, that's an interesting thought. So what is your, what's your observation? A: Well, first of all, to be conscious that there is territory next to the tracks.”

“B: I love that. A: Yeah, it really is.”

Standout episodes

  • Ep098: Procrastination Time Zones

    2020-10-01

    57

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • Ep098: Procrastination Time Zones

    2020-10-01 · 1h 7m

    57 / 100

Frequently asked

What is The Joy of Procrastination's substance score?
The Joy of Procrastination scores 57.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #3834 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 38% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #500 of 1041 in Leadership. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is The Joy of Procrastination worth listening to?
The Joy of Procrastination is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 57.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts The Joy of Procrastination?
The Joy of Procrastination is hosted by Dean Jackson & Dan Sullivan.
How often does The Joy of Procrastination publish?
The Joy of Procrastination publishes fortnightly, has 98 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2020-10-01.
Which The Joy of Procrastination episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Ep098: Procrastination Time Zones" (57/100) - a good place to start.

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